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mesaSteeler
10-09-2009, 12:17 AM
Ben sidesteps QB-protection question
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_647165.html#
By Scott Brown
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Friday, October 9, 2009

The question of whether the NFL has blurred the line between protecting quarterbacks and coddling them has become pertinent once again.

Ben Roethlisberger weighed in on the hot-button issue Thursday, although he treaded lightly when asked if the NFL has stripped the game of some of its essence by restricting where defensive players are allowed to hit quarterbacks.

"I am going to have to be real careful on how I answer that," the Steelers quarterback said before practice yesterday. "You know you have to protect Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and those guys, because they are kind of the face of the NFL."

The Ravens drew a pair of questionable roughing-the-passer penalties in a 27-21 loss to the Patriots last Sunday, and to some it seemed more than a coincidence that Brady is New England's quarterback.

Brady, along with Manning, is one of the most marketable players in the NFL.

Brady suffered a season-ending knee injury in the first game of 2008. During the offseason, NFL owners passed a rule that makes it illegal for defensive players to dive at a quarterback's legs.

It is commonly referred to as the Brady Rule -- and it has reinforced notions that marquee quarterbacks get special treatment because of their value to the NFL.

"I have seen particular quarterbacks just kind of look at an official and get a flag," Roethlisberger said. "I guess if that is the way it is, that is how it is. I feel being a mobile quarterback who doesn't give up on plays, I try to fight through a lot of things. Maybe that hurts me a little bit when it comes to that."

Like Roethlisberger, Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians said style of play, as well as stature, determines which quarterbacks are more likely to draw roughing-the-passer penalties.

Referees, Arians added, have become so used to seeing Roethlisberger absorb hits because of his scrambling that he may not get some of the calls given to traditional pocket passers such as Brady and Manning.

Arians said Roethlisberger has taken shots to the head three different times this season without drawing a penalty.

The Steelers sent all three plays to the NFL so they could get a clarification on why no penalties were assessed for the hits.

"You'd like to see more of those called against," Arians said, "but I think with (Roethlisberger's) style of play, you probably won't see as many."

Defensive players would like to see fewer of those calls, period, and if they are a little frustrated when it comes to rules regarding quarterbacks, is it understandable.

Steelers outside linebacker James Harrison got penalized for roughing the passer in a Sept. 20 game in Chicago when an official ruled he had dived at the legs of Bears quarterback Jay Cutler.

The Steelers contend that Harrison got blocked into Cutler and fell after losing his balance.

When asked if the NFL has gone too far in trying to protect quartebracks, Harrison held his tongue.

"I'm going to have to say no comment to that," the reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year said, "because I don't want to get fined."

What is clear is that the zone for defensive players has shrunk as far as hitting quarterbacks.

Anything above the head or below the knees is almost certain to draw a 15-yard penalty.

"Any more in this league, you can't even really come close to the quarterback, so it's hard," Steelers defensive end Brett Keisel said. "But it's something that's in the rules and something that we can't dwell on and something that we really can't think on. We just have to go out and play and try to get them on the ground as legally as possible."

Scott Brown can be reached at sbrown@tribweb.com or 412-481-5432.

Steel_Bus_24
10-09-2009, 12:36 AM
Im still waiting for Fat-Boy Rodgers to be fined for his late hit to Bens Face in week 2 of last year

Its obvious this rule and ward's rule were made to help soft teams like Brady's Pats:coffee:

Goodell and Kraft are probably looking at pictures of one another as I type this:shake01:

fansince'76
10-09-2009, 12:43 AM
"I have seen particular quarterbacks just kind of look at an official and get a flag," Roethlisberger said. "I guess if that is the way it is, that is how it is. I feel being a mobile quarterback who doesn't give up on plays, I try to fight through a lot of things. Maybe that hurts me a little bit when it comes to that."

Understatement of the year.

billybob
10-09-2009, 01:09 AM
if quarterbacks could call fouls .......damn .

fansince'76
10-09-2009, 01:12 AM
if quarterbacks could call fouls .......damn .

Some pretty much already can by whining to the refs. One in particular.

SteelC7
10-09-2009, 01:19 AM
wow...ben is hit at least 3 times a game that should be called, and hes becoming a bigger face to the public like manning and brady, so hopefully, later this year or next year ben will get the calls he should get, im kinda sick of the way they only penalize the steelers and not the teams were playing

solardave
10-09-2009, 04:44 AM
Some pretty much already can by whining to the refs. One in particular.

HE'S TOUCHING ME!!! REF, didn't you just hear what he said to me? And you're not going to throw the flag. No really, he hurt my feelings!!!:noidea:

Steelers & I
10-09-2009, 05:08 AM
With Halloween fast approaching, this is the only way that Ben Roethlisberger will get some of those cheesy calls:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l13/bkakers/bigbenbrady.jpg

Preacher
10-09-2009, 05:50 AM
With Halloween fast approaching, this is the only way that Ben Roethlisberger will get some of those cheesy calls:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l13/bkakers/bigbenbrady.jpg

That is just a disturbing picture.

stillers4me
10-09-2009, 06:14 AM
What does a quarterbacks's style of play have anything to do with whether a penalty gets called or not? A rule is a rule. Just because Ben absorbs hits better than pusses like Brady does, doesn't mean that he should.

X-Terminator
10-09-2009, 06:47 AM
Of course, to Pats* fans in general and 2 in particular, we're just making it all up, and Princess Brady really doesn't get treated any differently than any other QB. Therefore, this story is bogus and we're all really just jealous because she's so good.

:coffee:

:jerkit:

Steelers & I
10-09-2009, 07:03 AM
Of course, to Pats* fans in general and 2 in particular, we're just making it all up, and Princess Brady really doesn't get treated any differently than any other QB. Therefore, this story is bogus and we're all really just jealous because she's so good.

:coffee:

:jerkit:


I had those exact thoughts in the back of mind but I figured that they were just figments.

fansince'76
10-09-2009, 08:07 AM
What does a quarterbacks's style of play have anything to do with whether a penalty gets called or not? A rule is a rule. Just because Ben absorbs hits better than pusses like Brady does, doesn't mean that he should.

The NFL doesn't NEED Ben Roethlisberger. :jerkit:

The_WARDen
10-09-2009, 10:36 AM
What does a quarterbacks's style of play have anything to do with whether a penalty gets called or not? A rule is a rule. Just because Ben absorbs hits better than pusses like Brady does, doesn't mean that he should.

One's a man and the other is Marsha. Marsha wouldn't last in the AFC North. Methinks his time is limited in the AFC East now that Ryan is coaching the Jets.

TackleMeBen
10-09-2009, 11:02 AM
One's a man and the other is Marsha. Marsha wouldn't last in the AFC North. Methinks his time is limited in the AFC East now that Ryan is coaching the Jets.

i think you might be right there. the jets defense looks mean this season.


"I'm going to have to say no comment to that," the reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year said, "because I don't want to get fined."


you have to love harrison.. that sounds like something he would say...:tt02:

AllD
10-09-2009, 01:52 PM
If they got rid of the grounding penalty, then you could lift the soft RTP penalties because the QB has the option of throwing the ball away.

steel striker
10-09-2009, 08:41 PM
The NFL protects every QB not named Ben Roethlisberger.

stairway27
10-09-2009, 08:56 PM
From what I've seen, this has made Brady look like a major Puss. I say, let Ben continue to build his rep as being a tough QB that takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'. Let him be "The Man of Steel" City.

Steelerfreak58
10-09-2009, 09:17 PM
The rules that are coming out now are complete and total crap. I would use more colorful language but people get offended by adult language these days.

stb_steeler
10-09-2009, 09:21 PM
Just put a skirt on the QB = Jack Lambert
Well maybe just on Brady anyway!

scsteeler
10-10-2009, 12:01 AM
What does a quarterbacks's style of play have anything to do with whether a penalty gets called or not? A rule is a rule. Just because Ben absorbs hits better than pusses like Brady does, doesn't mean that he should.

So True So True!!!!

Hell Ben could get driven to the ground by 2 guys and their wold be a discussion on whether it is a penalty or not.