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Galax Steeler
10-13-2009, 04:01 AM
Tuesday, October 13, 2009
By Ron Cook, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is the John Elway of this generation.

There are a number of ways to support that supposition, starting with Roethlisberger's two Super Bowls in his first five NFL seasons. All quarterbacks are judged by their won-loss record. Roethlisberger's is a staggering 54-22 in the regular season, including 22-5 against AFC North Division opponents. He has 30 career 100-plus passer rating games, including a 123.9 in the 28-20 victory Sunday in Detroit when he threw for 277 yards and three touchdowns.

Those are hard, fast numbers. Indisputable numbers. But just as clear is Roethlisberger's winning mindset. He is aware of everything on the field at all times. Nothing frightens him, not even 285-pound defensive ends with evil intentions. Nothing throws him off his game, not even the occasional interception that is returned for a touchdown.

"Ben doesn't blink," Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said.

Roethlisberger's reaction after throwing the second-quarter interception that Detroit cornerback William James returned 38 yards for a touchdown to cut the Steelers' lead to 14-13 was the most fascinating part of the game. He walked slowly to the sideline, a wry smile on his face all the way, seemingly in disbelief that James -- or anyone, for that matter -- could make a play to get the better of him. Then, he immediately went to offensive coordinator Bruce Arians and asked if he could run the no-huddle offense on the next possession.

"It was like, 'This next series is on me. I want it,' " said backup quarterback Charlie Batch, who was privy to the Roethlisberger-Arians conversation. "Usually, B.A. or coach Tomlin suggests we go no-huddle. Not this time. Ben said, 'I want it right now.' "

Roethlisberger loves the no-huddle offense because he's more in charge of the game, calling the plays himself based on what he sees from the defense. Here's the sequence he came up with on that next possession: a 4-yard run by back Rashard Mendenhall, a 10-yard pass to tight end Heath Miller, a 1-yard run by Mendenhall, an 11-yard pass to Miller, a 9-yard pass to Miller, a 17-yard touchdown pass to wide receiver Hines Ward.

Four passes.

Four completions for 47 yards and a touchdown.

A 21-13 lead for the Steelers.

"You can't answer the call better than that," Batch said.

No one can appreciate what Roethlisberger did on that series quite like another quarterback.

"You know he felt bad about the interception," Batch said. "You throw one like that and you're thinking, 'I owe the team. I just gave up seven points.' Well, he did something about it, didn't he?"

Roethlisberger admitted he was "a little ticked off at myself" after James stepped in front of rookie wide receiver Mike Wallace, who was running a sideline pattern, to make the interception. "I read the coverage right. I threw a ball that was a pretty good ball. Mike ran a good route ??? I put it in the right spot, I just didn't put enough on it."

And Roethlisberger's take on his conversation with Arians?

" 'Give me the ball. Let me go with it.' "

That's Elway-like.

Roethlisberger threw a 47-yard touchdown pass to Wallace in the third quarter, not just bumping the Steelers' lead to 28-13 but making Wallace's day. Only two plays before the James' interception, Wallace dropped what should have been a 71-yard touchdown pass.

"I've told any receiver that's come through here after a drop: 'I'm not going to get mad at you. I'm coming right back to you so be ready,' " Roethlisberger said.

Do you think maybe that comes from knowing what it feels like to make a big mistake and wanting to atone for it?

Wallace felt like garbage after the drop but went home happy after his touchdown turned out to be the decisive points in the win.

It was just a part of another good day's work for Roethlisberger.

Not that No. 7 was satisfied.

"I don't feel like I'm playing well," he said. "I'm disappointed in my performance today. Even offensively, I'm disappointed in the way we played."

The Steelers went three-and-out on their final two possessions, giving the Lions a chance to come back.

"The standard is higher for us on offense," Roethlisberger said. "We need to really put the nail in the coffin at the end."

The Steelers will try to do better Sunday when they play the Cleveland Browns at Heinz Field. The Browns have scored an offensive touchdown in just two of their past 11 games, going back to last season. Somehow, they beat the Buffalo Bills, 6-3, Sunday despite quarterback Derek Anderson completing 2 of 17 passes for 23 yards.

Do you think the Browns would love to have the Steelers' offensive troubles?

A better question:

Do you think the Browns would love to have Roethlisberger?

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09286/1005118-87.stm

Vis
10-13-2009, 05:26 AM
I think he shows flashes of Roethlisberger.

WH
10-13-2009, 06:47 AM
What is this ''shows signs of Elway'' crap. Ben is the Ben of this generation.

SteelMember
10-13-2009, 07:09 AM
Come on guys. It's not a bad thing to be compared to a HOF'r. I'm also pretty sure that when Ben was drafted that he, himself chose Elway when questioned about who he thought he most resembled and modeled his game after.

Why do you think he is #7? :doh:

WH
10-13-2009, 07:41 AM
Come on guys. It's not a bad thing to be compared to a HOF'r. I'm also pretty sure that when Ben was drafted that he, himself chose Elway when questioned about who he thought he most resembled and modeled his game after.

Why do you think he is #7? :doh:

No doubt because he's loved Elway. Why, however, not let Ben be Ben? You already have members of the national media referring to many comeback drives by younger QB's as ''Brady-esque''? Why can't someone in the local Pittsburgh media just praise Ben for being amazing and not compare him to someone else.

BTW, Brady's two most famout last second drives weren't even for touchdowns, they were for Fieldgoals. At least Ben has a last second TD drive in the superbowl.

solardave
10-13-2009, 07:59 AM
No doubt because he's loved Elway. Why, however, not let Ben be Ben? You already have members of the national media referring to many comeback drives by younger QB's as ''Brady-esque''? Why can't someone in the local Pittsburgh media just praise Ben for being amazing and not compare him to someone else.

BTW, Brady's two most famout last second drives weren't even for touchdowns, they were for Fieldgoals. At least Ben has a last second TD drive in the superbowl.

I wish someone could answer that question. Why do they not say Brady looked just like Big Ben when he refused to take the ruffing penalty? OH YEAH. Never mind. The fact is Ben does things Elway (comebacks,etc) did but the resemblance stops there. H'es bigger and stronger (and he holds the ball longer than Elway did.)LOL He said he was a huge Elway fan in college, but BEN is BEN.

stlrtruck
10-13-2009, 08:03 AM
While Elway was the man of QBs back in the day, and he had a lot of memorable moments on the field, there are some very OUTSTANDING DIFFERENCES between the two:

1) Ben never stated he wasn't going to play for a certain team - i.e. Elway not willing to play for the colts in baltimore.

2) Ben hasn't lost a SB as of yet.

SteelMember
10-13-2009, 08:11 AM
No doubt because he's loved Elway. Why, however, not let Ben be Ben? You already have members of the national media referring to many comeback drives by younger QB's as ''Brady-esque''? Why can't someone in the local Pittsburgh media just praise Ben for being amazing and not compare him to someone else.

BTW, Brady's two most famout last second drives weren't even for touchdowns, they were for Fieldgoals. At least Ben has a last second TD drive in the superbowl.

Well, there is a big difference between national media and local media for one thing, and I think Ben gets his fair share of accolades from them...as his own man.

We have a great QB. It took awhile, so let's enjoy it and let the "national media" talk about what color Brady's sh!t is. Most of them are a bunch of jock sniffers anyway.

So don't let it bother you. Apparently, it doesn't bother him.

The_WARDen
10-13-2009, 08:41 AM
While Elway was the man of QBs back in the day, and he had a lot of memorable moments on the field, there are some very OUTSTANDING DIFFERENCES between the two:

1) Ben never stated he wasn't going to play for a certain team - i.e. Elway not willing to play for the colts in baltimore.

2) Ben hasn't lost a SB as of yet.

True, but Elway did WAY more with less. Ben has more of a team around him than Elway did prior to the mid-90s. Elway still went to 3 SBs prior to that and 5 total.

I'm a huge Ben fan but come on...Ben's not in Elway's league yet.

Indo
10-13-2009, 09:23 AM
True, but Elway did WAY more with less. Ben has more of a team around him than Elway did prior to the mid-90s. Elway still went to 3 SBs prior to that and 5 total.

I'm a huge Ben fan but come on...Ben's not in Elway's league yet.

Emphasize the "yet"

I think Elway was phenomenal-----that look in his eyes when he was running for the goal line ----classic. You'll NEVER see that look in Marsha Brady's eyes...

But, with all due respect to Elway, I think Ben's achievements will surpass Elways'
Just not "yet"

Steelboy84
10-13-2009, 10:30 AM
Future Hall of Famer, no matter who he's compared to.

:tt03: :tt03: :tt03: :drink: :thumbsup: :applaudit: :hatsoff: :flap:

sharkweek
10-13-2009, 08:21 PM
Why do you think he is #7? :doh:

he wanted to be #7 like Boomer and Vick!

I actually wouldn't be surprised if many up and coming QBs choosing #7 do so because of Ben now as much as they might be for Elway or anyone else.


I'm a huge Ben fan but come on...Ben's not in Elway's league yet.

You're right, he's not in Elway's league, he's better.

iloveben7
10-13-2009, 08:29 PM
I actually wouldn't be surprised if many up and coming QBs choosing #7 do so because of Ben now as much as they might be for Elway or anyone else.

You're right, he's not in Elway's league, he's better.

I'm sure we'll see in the new future or even now, that a lot of high school/college QB's look up to Ben as their QB idol instead of Elway, Marino, Brady, and Manning.

And i completely agree with you that Ben is better than Elway and he'll just continue getting better.

MillerMania83
10-13-2009, 08:39 PM
Plain and simple, I've said it a million times, Ben IS A WINNER, bottom line....Every year he just gets better and better, and he is certainly on the path to a HoF career....I wake up every day and THANK 'The Big Guy' above that Big Ben is the QB of my beloved Pittsburgh Steelers.

stairway27
10-13-2009, 10:51 PM
I'd certainly take him over Elway in his prime. Hell, Ben is just now starting to reach his prime, and he already has 2 rings.

WH
10-14-2009, 02:01 AM
Plain and simple, I've said it a million times, Ben IS A WINNER, bottom line....Every year he just gets better and better, and he is certainly on the path to a HoF career....I wake up every day and THANK 'The Big Guy' above that Big Ben is the QB of my beloved Pittsburgh Steelers.
To this day I still chuckle when I remember that all the Pittsburgh-media assclowns were 100% convinced the Steelers would take a Cornerback in the '04 draft

Galax Steeler
10-14-2009, 03:43 AM
To this day I still chuckle when I remember that all the Pittsburgh-media assclowns were 100% convinced the Steelers would take a Cornerback in the '04 draft

I am sure glad we didn't. I don't think he has dissapointed anyone.

WH
10-14-2009, 05:19 AM
I am sure glad we didn't. I don't think he has dissapointed anyone.

Mike Prisuta, but he's unsatisfiable.

Tankus_Maximus
10-14-2009, 09:02 AM
Screw Ron Cook! I've been saying Ben is the 2nd coming of Elway for years now!!!