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SteelerEmpire
10-17-2009, 07:32 PM
Good article dealing with a prominent Steeler Vet: LINK: http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=8850748

Scary....

BlastFurnace
10-17-2009, 07:44 PM
What scares me for Troy is that he has had 7 concussions at a relatively young age. It probably will cause him to retire at a younger age as well.

devilsdancefloor
10-17-2009, 08:05 PM
Id like to see the effects from other sports as well. RIP Iron Mike:tt04:

steelreserve
10-17-2009, 08:23 PM
ESPN Magazine did an in-depth story about Mike Webster a few years ago. It was almost upsetting to read.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972285

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972286

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972287

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972288

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972289


edit: no, after starting to read it again, I have to correct myself. It wasn't almost upsetting -- it WAS upsetting.

slippy
10-17-2009, 09:11 PM
last month's GQ also had an excellent article about mike webster/concussions/etc.

http://www.gq.com/sports/profiles/200909/nfl-players-brain-dementia-study-memory-concussions

devilsdancefloor
10-17-2009, 09:51 PM
ESPN Magazine did an in-depth story about Mike Webster a few years ago. It was almost upsetting to read.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972285

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972286

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972287

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972288

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972289


edit: no, after starting to read it again, I have to correct myself. It wasn't almost upsetting -- it WAS upsetting.


well i made it thru the first one and about 2 paragraphs into the 2nd one before i got to upset and stopped. EXTREMELY sad

onefortheotherhand
10-17-2009, 10:20 PM
damn, i remember reading a story about mike and it made my eyes water it was so sad.

Psyychoward86
10-17-2009, 10:54 PM
thanks for that. It's a scary thing for football players. It's terrible how Iron Mike's life ended

steelreserve
10-18-2009, 04:33 AM
well i made it thru the first one and about 2 paragraphs into the 2nd one before i got to upset and stopped. EXTREMELY sad

The fourth one is probably the most upsetting, but also the one most worth reading. I'd definitely recommend it if you get the chance. My hat goes off to the guy who wrote all this for actually taking the time to understand it and do it right.

steelreserve
10-18-2009, 04:52 AM
What scares me for Troy is that he has had 7 concussions at a relatively young age. It probably will cause him to retire at a younger age as well.

I think that really depends. Some guys are affected differently than others. Eric Lindros seemed to get several concussions a year for the first half of his career, but seemed to make it through OK. Steve Young quit a little early because of concussions and is doing just fine.

Honestly, I think the real problem is that Webster probably endured something like 50 or 100 concussions in the NFL -- most of which would have gone unnoticed -- and kept playing the next week regardless, probably even kept playing in the same game. It wasn't a big deal back then and it wasn't completely understood; you just got your ass kicked and got back up and kept playing unless you couldn't stand up. Medically, the worst thing that can possibly happen is if you have a concussion and aren't recovered, then you get hit in the head again -- that's how the really devastating damage is done.

These days the teams DO manage it a lot better -- getting knocked out is a big deal and they are a lot more careful (at least in theory) about making sure you're recovered before you come back. When a guy gets a concussion, you hear about it and everyone is aware and warned about it. The media is aware and raises questions and doesn't let it slide. Players are also multimillion-dollar investments that management wants to protect, so that aspect balances the temptation to work them to death. Now don't get me wrong, there's still probably a LOT of the yeah-yeah-macho-macho-macho sports culture working in the opposite direction, but at least people's eyes are on the problem now and they're moving in the right direction. Even though Goodell is making a mangled mess of it by trying to legislate injury out of the game, not limit the consequences down the road.

solardave
10-18-2009, 08:03 AM
ESPN Magazine did an in-depth story about Mike Webster a few years ago. It was almost upsetting to read.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972285

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972286

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972287

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972288

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1972289


edit: no, after starting to read it again, I have to correct myself. It wasn't almost upsetting -- it WAS upsetting.

I remember that story. I also remembering crying when I heard he died. He was such a part of the Steeler legacy. When we talk about the 70's you hear Mean Joe, Lambert,Bradshaw, Swann...... but not nearly enough about Mike Webster who in my mind was the absolute toughest center to ever play the game.If I remember his playing weight was only around 250-260. And I think he'd be a beast today with all the 300-350 Nose Tackles, Defensive Tackles out there.