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Merchant
11-04-2009, 10:59 PM
I know he has been a major letdown this season and pretty much cost us the game at Cincinnati, but I still think he can be a major weapon for us. I just re-watched his highlight tape at Texas U and this guy still looks like something special. Although my two most vivid memories of him are the drops in last season's AFC championship game and this years bengals game, I also remember just how open he was. He absolutely smoked the defender. And his frame reminds me of Plaxico Burress.

I personally don't think that we should give up on this guy just yet. He's just having some confidence issues right now.

What are your thoughts?

stb_steeler
11-04-2009, 11:15 PM
Hard to say what they might do with him. Isnt he knocked back to practice squad?

devilsdancefloor
11-04-2009, 11:17 PM
i do not htink we should give up on him just yet. But you are gonna get a lot of folks who are gonna lay a lot of hate in this thread.I think all the recievers have had a few drops this year. that is mind boggling in itself. Tone & hines both have dropped passes they should have had. At some point i think we need to get him in the game and just try to get his confidence up. Instead of throwing it deep or on a 3rd down go to him early. His dropped passes and magnified cause they where gonna be TD's or possibley 1st downs. But i dont see him getting int he game unless we are behind the chains. I think he has been in sweats the passed few games.

Nadroj 20
11-04-2009, 11:19 PM
He has potential i think we all know that, and i agree he needs to be put in there to try and build his confidence.

With Wallace stepping up though its not like we really need him to turn it around in a week, he will gradually work his way in and hopefully be the WR we all think he can be.

tony hipchest
11-04-2009, 11:54 PM
maybe he should just go to a team like the dolphins who makes a cb and return specialist the #1 wr, and gives them 2 and a half years in the spotlight before they realize theyre a bust. :hunch:

until then, we dont know what santonio's contract demands will be, but we do know he thinks he is one of the best wr's in this league. we keep sweed as insurance and leverage.

holmes simply isnt to his peers what ben, polamalu, heath, harrison, are to theirs.

the cap is only so big.

cubanstogie
11-05-2009, 12:02 AM
maybe he should just go to a team like the dolphins who makes a cb and return specialist the #1 wr, and gives them 2 and a half years in the spotlight before they realize theyre a bust. :hunch:

until then, we dont know what santonio's contract demands will be, but we do know he thinks he is one of the best wr's in this league. we keep sweed as insurance and leverage.

holmes simply isnt to his peers what ben, polamalu, heath, harrison, are to theirs.

the cap is only so big.

Ginn has more 100 yd td's than Sweed has catches for crying out loud. Comparing them is like comparing Brady to Jamarcus. If Sweed is ever our 2 or 3 receiver we are in trouble. I think we find another hidden gem in 4, 5 , or 6th round next year and we will have some depth, then its sweed dreams, lights out on Limas.

Merchant
11-05-2009, 12:04 AM
See that's another thing. Santonio has had a lot of dropped passes too this season. And granted, he's a veteran and came up HUGE for us in the superbowl, but the point is EVERYONE drops passes. Anyone else watch that Arizona/Giants game when Fitzgerald dropped that flea flicker when he was wideee open. And on NFL Network's "Top 10 Greatest Hands" Fitzgerald was ranked #4 or something like that. So drops happen even to the best of the best. Sweed's still very young. I think at the very least we need to start dressing him for games again and give him a couple reps a game. Maybe a hitch or some high percentage catch just to get his confidence back up.

cubanstogie
11-05-2009, 12:05 AM
Sweed caught 6 balls last year and fumbled twice. Not very good odds. Talk about bust. Anyone who says Ginn a bust and Sweed a work in progress needs a dictionary.

cubanstogie
11-05-2009, 12:08 AM
See that's another thing. Santonio has had a lot of dropped passes too this season. And granted, he's a veteran and came up HUGE for us in the superbowl, but the point is EVERYONE drops passes. Anyone else watch that Arizona/Giants game when Fitzgerald dropped that flea flicker when he was wideee open. And on NFL Network's "Top 10 Greatest Hands" Fitzgerald was ranked #4 or something like that. So drops happen even to the best of the best. Sweed's still very young. I think at the very least we need to start dressing him for games again and give him a couple reps a game. Maybe a hitch or some high percentage catch just to get his confidence back up.

why dress him when Wallace is better. Oh I know because we spent a second on him. Past history, if he earns it then fine if not it doesn't matter when you were drafted after a couple of years. The best players play. We are not the Detroit Lions.

Merchant
11-05-2009, 12:09 AM
Sweed caught 6 balls last year and fumbled twice. Not very good odds. Talk about bust. Anyone who says Ginn a bust and Sweed a work in progress needs a dictionary.

You probably thought Polamalu was a bust too after his rookie season.

It's way too early to declare Sweed a bust in my opinion.

I'm not saying START him. I know Wallace is our best option at the 3rd wideout. But give Sweed a couple reps a game.

tony hipchest
11-05-2009, 12:13 AM
Ginn has more 100 yd td's than Sweed has catches for crying out loud. Comparing them is like comparing Brady to Jamarcus. If Sweed is ever our 2 or 3 receiver we are in trouble. I think we find another hidden gem in 4, 5 , or 6th round next year and we will have some depth, then its sweed dreams, lights out on Limas.

huh?

get a room.

cubanstogie
11-05-2009, 12:16 AM
You probably thought Polamalu was a bust too after his rookie season.

It's way too early to declare Sweed a bust in my opinion.

I'm not saying START him. I know Wallace is our best option at the 3rd wideout. But give Sweed a couple reps a game.

I am not saying cut him, I think he needs to earn some reps. I don't normally declare any player bust, I have faith in the FO and coaching and rarely if ever criticize anything they do considering they know much more than I do. What I don't like is hypocrisy. Saying Ginn is a bust and Sweed is not is just that. I truly hope Sweed someday matures into a solid receiver. I am not holding my breath though.

tony hipchest
11-05-2009, 12:16 AM
why dress him when Wallace is better. Oh I know because we spent a second on him. Past history, if he earns it then fine if not it doesn't matter when you were drafted after a couple of years. The best players play. We are not the Detroit Lions.we only pick up their players and not dress them on sundays (s. mcdonald anyone?)

I am not saying cut him, I think he needs to earn some reps. I don't normally declare any player bust, I have faith in the FO and coaching and rarely if ever criticize anything they do considering they know much more than I do. What I don't like is hypocrisy.

finally... we agree. :thumbsup:

steelwalls
11-05-2009, 01:09 AM
maybe he should just go to a team like the dolphins who makes a cb and return specialist the #1 wr, and gives them 2 and a half years in the spotlight before they realize theyre a bust. :hunch:

until then, we dont know what santonio's contract demands will be, but we do know he thinks he is one of the best wr's in this league. we keep sweed as insurance and leverage.

holmes simply isnt to his peers what ben, polamalu, heath, harrison, are to theirs.

the cap is only so big.


Actually Toney, for what it's worth. I think you are right here.

Galax Steeler
11-05-2009, 04:36 AM
I think we don't need to give up on Sweed but on the other hand we can't afford for him to keep dropping those critical passes. He could have costed us the game against Baltimore. You should go ahead and say he costed us the game against the Bengals. So how many more chances do you give this guy.:doh:

solardave
11-05-2009, 04:49 AM
I'm not ready to call Sweed a bust. Here's the thing. He got himself where he is right now with the drops. He had to know from training camp that Wallace would push him and he obviously didn't see it coming. Now he can't get back on the field.Welcome to the NFL.

Preacher
11-05-2009, 04:50 AM
Ginn has more 100 yd td's than Sweed has catches for crying out loud. Comparing them is like comparing Brady to Jamarcus. If Sweed is ever our 2 or 3 receiver we are in trouble. I think we find another hidden gem in 4, 5 , or 6th round next year and we will have some depth, then its sweed dreams, lights out on Limas.

And you know that from Sweed being targeted only 13 times. He dropped 6 of them. good stats? Absolutely not.

If someone went into your job, pulled out the first 13 things you did.... could he tell how good of an employ you would be over the next 15 years?

pancake
11-05-2009, 06:09 AM
He has too much potential to give up on. We should give him more playing time against teams like Cleveland, and KC. Not start him but get him in some reps. This kid gets his confidence up, we won't have to pay Holmes big money. It would be nice to sign Holmes long term though.

Kaeg
11-05-2009, 07:46 AM
Give him time. Not everyone emerges at the same rate. I'm not guaranteeing he'll be great, but I still think there's a chance.

HometownGal
11-05-2009, 07:55 AM
YAY. Another Limas Sweed thread. :shake02: I'm sure this is probably the 50th thread we've had on this topic.

With an all important game coming up Monday night in Denver, don't we have better things to talk about? :banging:

memphissteelergirl
11-05-2009, 09:08 AM
Give him time. Not everyone emerges at the same rate. I'm not guaranteeing he'll be great, but I still think there's a chance.


:iagree:

stlrtruck
11-05-2009, 09:31 AM
He still has the potential and the athleticism to be a huge factor in the Steelers offense.

The problem with Sweed is in his head. Some where along the line he got it stuck in his head that he was "the best" his final year at Texas. Maybe dropping to the second round messed him up. Maybe he's got too many people telling him too many of the wrong things. What he needs is to get away from all the "idiots", spend some time with a few HOF WRs (Swann, Stallworth, Rice, etc) and get his head back in the right perspective.

revefsreleets
11-05-2009, 11:13 AM
maybe he should just go to a team like the dolphins who makes a cb and return specialist the #1 wr, and gives them 2 and a half years in the spotlight before they realize theyre a bust. :hunch:

until then, we dont know what santonio's contract demands will be, but we do know he thinks he is one of the best wr's in this league. we keep sweed as insurance and leverage.

holmes simply isnt to his peers what ben, polamalu, heath, harrison, are to theirs.

the cap is only so big.

You sad little pathetic man-boy...just can't go a post without taking a swipe, and facts be damned, too, I guess.

Your boy is riding pine for a reason...what exactly is THAT leverage against, the guy on the other end of the bench flying off in a teeter-totter accident?

steelreserve
11-05-2009, 11:43 AM
I don't dare say the B-word because mentioning it in regards to anyone who's less than a 10-year veteran will inevitably draw a cavalcade of reactions about how "Steelers fans are all so impatient and I know better then you," or "Steelers fans were labeling so-and-so a bust after his first year and look how that turned out, so I know better than you," or "They're professional coaches and they haven't cut him, and fans are all idiots who aren't even qualified to watch the games, so I know better than you," and about half a dozen other canned responses like that.

It's this year's version of the reverse trolls in the Parker Sucks/Arians Sucks debate ... now that it's been pretty well established that Parker does suck and Arians is doing OK with the offense, those arguments have died down, but they still have to call SOMEONE stupid and not knowledgeable about football. So this year, it's the people who are too quick to label Sweed or Hood a bust, with a side helping of the people who don't want to re-sign Reed.

Anyway ... fine, I won't officially call Sweed a bust yet, for whatever reason. But 7 career catches for 69 career yards does not look like a guy waiting to break out -- more like a guy soon to be looking for another team. I don't care how slowly someone is being brought along; he needs to be contributing more than that along the way. Especially at $1 million-plus per season. If he doesn't fight his way back onto the roster somehow, face it, man -- he's gone.

SteelMember
11-05-2009, 12:07 PM
not a bust yet, i don't think he's been given enough chances to redeem himself, mostly because of Wallace emerging and in the few chances he has had, he didn't step up and make the play. it's too early to call him a bust, he deserves a some more chances to showcase his abilities and if he fails when he does get his next opportunies then call him a bust and get rid of him.

he was never put on the field consistently enough imo, and coming off the sidelines every once in a while is probably a lot harder than being out there play after play. if someone does get injuried (please no) in our wr corps he will probably get another shot and he better focus and catch the damn ball because all the pressure is on him now

I agree with this post, but would add he needs to PLAY his way onto the roster. If that means practicing harder and longer than the other guys, than that's what he needs to do. If he's just going to go through the motions, and sulk...he's NOT gonna get any chances. Tomlin won't put him out there just because he was a 2nd round pick.

fansince'76
11-05-2009, 12:11 PM
I don't dare say the B-word because mentioning it in regards to anyone who's less than a 10-year veteran will inevitably draw a cavalcade of reactions about how "Steelers fans are all so impatient and I know better then you," or "Steelers fans were labeling so-and-so a bust after his first year and look how that turned out, so I know better than you," or "They're professional coaches and they haven't cut him, and fans are all idiots who aren't even qualified to watch the games, so I know better than you," and about half a dozen other canned responses like that.

As opposed to those who proclaim "so-and-so isn't starting and playing like a future HoFer so he's a bust - CUT HIS ASS! I said over and over during the draft that the idiots in the FO should have drafted so-and-so instead, after all, he's starting for Detroit!" in regards to pretty much every 1st and 2nd round pick that comes down the pike all of 3 or 4 games into his rookie campaign. :coffee:

revefsreleets
11-05-2009, 12:14 PM
I agree with this post, but would add he needs to PLAY his way onto the roster. If that means practicing harder and longer than the other guys, than that's what he needs to do. If he's just going to go through the motions, and sulk...he's NOT gonna get any chances. Tomlin won't put him out there just because he was a 2nd round pick.

This is very logical and I agree with it completely.

I have a real problem here being killed for carrying the message, but I really have nothing to do with that. People act like there's no reason Sweed is benched, like he deserves to be playing, and that if he was just given another chance, THIS time it would all be different. but I'm reasonably sure that it's not JUST his flubs and mental mistakes in games that are causing him grief. He probably sucks in practice, too...

It's time to stop worrying about Limas Sweed now. It's almost the mid-point of the season, and he's on the bench...it's unlikely, barring injury, that's going to change. If it DOES change, then it makes sense to bring this issue back up, but incessantly hanging onto hope for a player who is doing nothing now but absorbing salary has run it's course...time to move on.

BradfordTheGreat
11-05-2009, 12:26 PM
IMO we need to warm him up as a possession guy... get him into the groove a little bit. Did you see him in the preseason? He made some miraculous catches over the middle. Clearly it's just a confidence issue for him, and we need to work him into games late if (when) we're up big, to get him some reps in a real game. If he keeps failing, then we'll know hes a bust, but until then, we should give him a chance

Angus Burgher
11-05-2009, 12:34 PM
Yeah, all I can think is that he must be having issues in practice, as well. He had a drop that likely cost us the Cincy game, that's true. But that was a while ago. I can't believe that one bad moment would get him yanked for the rest of the season. He did have one more drop a couple weeks later... I think it was against Detroit? But that was an awkward pass that anyone would have had trouble catching... I don't think that one hurt his stock much.

My guess is, he's underperforming in practice as well, and with a WR corps that includes talents like Ward, Holmes and Wallace, along with Miller, Moore and Mendenhall in the short-pass game... Tomlin just doesn't see the need to take a risk on a wild card.

steelballs
11-05-2009, 12:42 PM
I don't think anyone will debate Sweeds ability to get open...the kid gets open. The debate is whether he has the focus to make that next step and the jury's still out.

I would like nothing better than to see Limas finally step up and be a Steeler for the next several years, but he's used up most of his chances and Tomlin is losing patience...as are the Steeler faithful.

revefsreleets
11-05-2009, 12:45 PM
The guy smashes the Hindenburg into the ground. Then he crashes the Titanic into the iceberg. Then he wrecks the Exxon Valdez.

So we let him mess around on the simulator, and he......smashes the virtual Hindenburg into the ground again, and crashes the virtual Titanic in to the iceberg again, and rams wrecks the virtual Valdez again, so the answer, according to some, is to let him try again with the real thing again?

Oooooohhhhhhkaaaaaaayyyyyyy....

steelreserve
11-05-2009, 01:18 PM
As opposed to those who proclaim "so-and-so isn't starting and playing like a future HoFer so he's a bust - CUT HIS ASS! I said over and over during the draft that the idiots in the FO should have drafted so-and-so instead, after all, he's starting for Detroit!" in regards to pretty much every 1st and 2nd round pick that comes down the pike all of 3 or 4 games into his rookie campaign. :coffee:

Yeah, except just like with Parker/Arians sucks, the "anti-complaining" movement gets so aggressive that they take it to the level where it's verboten to even raise questions about a rookie, whether you're a meathead or not. You say so-and-so looks bad, it'll just get dismissed out of hand and you'll be called an impatient whiner.

Tell me again why it's so outrageous to think a 1st or 2nd-round pick could be a bust? Have we never had one before?

But no, you're not allowed to try and analyze the situation on your own. How dare you second-guess the front office, you commie scum -- just stand up and salute the flag.

BradfordTheGreat
11-05-2009, 01:35 PM
The guy smashes the Hindenburg into the ground. Then he crashes the Titanic into the iceberg. Then he wrecks the Exxon Valdez.

So we let him mess around on the simulator, and he......smashes the virtual Hindenburg into the ground again, and crashes the virtual Titanic in to the iceberg again, and rams wrecks the virtual Valdez again, so the answer, according to some, is to let him try again with the real thing again?

Oooooohhhhhhkaaaaaaayyyyyyy....

Yes, that is the answer. He has showed some promise as a possession receiver, so we need to give him a shot at that. Only this time, on not such a big stage

fansince'76
11-05-2009, 02:16 PM
You should go ahead and say he costed us the game against the Bengals.

If Farrior makes a tackle he would usually make on 4th and 10 late in the game, we would have won anyway.

fansince'76
11-05-2009, 02:18 PM
Yeah, except just like with Parker/Arians sucks, the "anti-complaining" movement gets so aggressive that they take it to the level where it's verboten to even raise questions about a rookie, whether you're a meathead or not. You say so-and-so looks bad, it'll just get dismissed out of hand and you'll be called an impatient whiner.

Tell me again why it's so outrageous to think a 1st or 2nd-round pick could be a bust? Have we never had one before?

But no, you're not allowed to try and analyze the situation on your own. How dare you second-guess the front office, you commie scum -- just stand up and salute the flag.

Sure, 3 to 4 games into a player's rookie year is more than sufficient time to evaluate whether said player is going to be a bust or not. Especially when the evaluation is made by folks who see said player all of 3 hours a week on Sunday. Sounds reasonable enough.

Angus Burgher
11-05-2009, 02:18 PM
If Farrior makes a tackle he would usually make on 4th and 10 late in the game, we would have won anyway.

Very true. As furious as I was about Sweed's drop in that game... I have to agree that the defense was the one that lost it in the end.

revefsreleets
11-05-2009, 02:19 PM
Yes, that is the answer. He has showed some promise as a possession receiver, so we need to give him a shot at that. Only this time, on not such a big stage

He can't catch in games, and he probably can't catch in practice...what else is there? Find a pick-up game around his neighborhood and let him try that?

This kid is Alonzo Jackson II...

Angus Burgher
11-05-2009, 02:24 PM
Has he ever played on special teams? Sometimes that's a good way to get a guy ready to be a real receiver...

revefsreleets
11-05-2009, 02:25 PM
Has he ever played on special teams? Sometimes that's a good way to get a guy ready to be a real receiver...


Well, he has 1 PR for 0.0 yards...I think he MAY have fumbled that.

Nadroj 20
11-05-2009, 02:27 PM
Well, he has 1 PR for 0.0 yards...I think he MAY have fumbled that.

He doesnt have to be a return guy, just play him on special teams to get him on the field, and then maybe put him in a few plays on offense.

IMO he should be dressing at the very least.

AllD
11-05-2009, 02:40 PM
Sweed is on the bench until an insignificant part of a game unlkess somebody gets hurt. The fastest, tallest guy on the field is no good for offense if he cannot catch the ball. He might actually be better in the secondary on D.

Sweed is a solid #6 receiver on the Steelers after check down Ward, Holmes, Wallace, McDonald, & Miller. Unfortunately for him there is no play for six wide. And Wallace, Ward, or Holmes would be better at an end around or reverse.

He might have one more training camp and if there is no improvement he is off to.....The Raiders!

steelreserve
11-05-2009, 02:53 PM
Sure, 3 to 4 games into a player's rookie year is more than sufficient time to evaluate whether said player is going to be a bust or not. Especially when the evaluation is made by folks who see said player all of 3 hours a week on Sunday. Sounds reasonable enough.

So? Some people are jumping to conclusions; that's nothing new. You of all people should know by now that that's just a natural byproduct of any sports conversation that's open to the public. I don't think it's possible to label someone a bust halfway through their rookie year either -- but it doesn't mean ALL criticism of a first or second-year guy should be slammed for jumping the gun, and sometimes it seems like that's what happens.

Basically, yeah, everyone ought to take rookies' performance with a grain of salt, but talking about it shouldn't be off-limits entirely ... but it seems like that's what some people want, and every time someone gets a little too negative for their liking, they pull out the "you-don't-know-anything-you-amateur" card, which is really just as unproductive as leaping to wild conclusions in the first place.

Rotorhead
11-05-2009, 02:53 PM
I agree with some saying it probably just isnt the drops in the games that have him benched. There is too much potential there for just a few drops. I am guessing he could practice harder, more . . . something. If he really wanted to crack the line-up (if it were me) I would be sleeping at the dam facility making sure there was nothing left and no regrets. Unfortunately for him right now, Wallace stepped in and leaves it all on the field each week. Wallace doesnt have the tools Sweed has, so he is working that much harder to be the guy and it is paying off. I do think we could get him into high percentage possesion passes towards the end of games we are winning by 2+ scores . . . but have we had one yet? We will see what happens, but I hope we have found the Ward of the future in Wallace!

Angus Burgher
11-05-2009, 04:09 PM
Sweed is on the bench until an insignificant part of a game unlkess somebody gets hurt. The fastest, tallest guy on the field is no good for offense if he cannot catch the ball. He might actually be better in the secondary on D.

Sweed is a solid #6 receiver on the Steelers after check down Ward, Holmes, Wallace, McDonald, & Miller. Unfortunately for him there is no play for six wide. And Wallace, Ward, or Holmes would be better at an end around or reverse.

He might have one more training camp and if there is no improvement he is off to.....The Raiders!

Hey, maybe it would somehow work out. Since he can't catch perfectly thrown balls by one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the league, maybe somehow he'll defy reality by being able to catch passes by an inaccurate lazyass like JaMarcus.

Steelboy84
11-05-2009, 06:22 PM
I just hope he gets it together soon before he gets cut. Tomlin has no problem sending you on your merry way.

cubanstogie
11-05-2009, 06:27 PM
And you know that from Sweed being targeted only 13 times. He dropped 6 of them. good stats? Absolutely not.

If someone went into your job, pulled out the first 13 things you did.... could he tell how good of an employ you would be over the next 15 years?

probably not, thats why I stated its too early to give up on him in another thread. The context of my post was in response of someone comparing Ginn to Sweed. Ginn, although a disappointment like Sweed at least has done something positive. Sweed has been a disaster all the way around.

BradfordTheGreat
11-05-2009, 07:35 PM
He can't catch in games, and he probably can't catch in practice...what else is there? Find a pick-up game around his neighborhood and let him try that?

This kid is Alonzo Jackson II...

He CAN catch in games in possession situations, I thought I was clear about what I said. He needs short catches like the ones we saw this preseason to build his in-game confidence, then he might be able to catch a deep ball.

He doesnt have to be a return guy, just play him on special teams to get him on the field, and then maybe put him in a few plays on offense.

IMO he should be dressing at the very least.

that would work too

Aussie_steeler
11-06-2009, 01:26 AM
My thoughts on Sweed - I believe that if a flock of seagulls flew over they would all shit on Limas too.

1 huge drop, he gets benched and unfortunately he is sitting behind some quality WR's on the depth chart. The fact that he is a 2nd round pick is why his butt is being ridden so hard on this board.

Until the next loss and the next screw up by someone in black and gold Limas is the official target. I am resigned to that fact. Regardless of popular opinion I just wont write him off until he is officially gone.

MasterOfPuppets
11-06-2009, 01:35 AM
He can't catch in games, and he probably can't catch in practice...what else is there? Find a pick-up game around his neighborhood and let him try that?

This kid is Alonzo Jackson II... then how'd he win the number 3 job ? :noidea:

Steelers & I
11-06-2009, 02:38 AM
A month ago I said trade him but in reality, who in the hell am I? Now as I look at it, I say stick with him. Currently, he's simply beat out by better personnel in Ward, Holmes, and Wallace. I mean seriously, even if you took back all of Sweed's drops, how much playing time do think that he would be getting right now? I'm not saying that he'll ever overcome his shortcomings, I don't really know, but it's a little to early to totally give up on him. An unfortunate injury to either Ward, Holmes, or Wallace, and Sweed may be looked upon as a star after a few weeks of playing time. :noidea:

Aussie_steeler
11-06-2009, 04:32 AM
A month ago I said trade him but in reality, who in the hell am I? Now as I look at it, I say stick with him. Currently, he's simply beat out by better personnel in Ward, Holmes, and Wallace. I mean seriously, even if you took back all of Sweed's drops, how much playing time do think that he would be getting right now? I'm not saying that he'll ever overcome his shortcomings, I don't really know, but it's a little to early to totally give up on him. An unfortunate injury to either Ward, Holmes, or Wallace, and Sweed may be looked upon as a star after a few weeks of playing time. :noidea:

McDonald dresses and usually doesnt get on the field ( in any capacity). He and Sweed are both getting beat by better personnel.

Sweed can at least contribute on special teams. I say dress him and let him run up and down and hit some people on ST coverages.

McDonald is pure insurance in case of injury to a starting WR.

Steelers & I
11-06-2009, 06:58 AM
McDonald dresses and usually doesnt get on the field ( in any capacity). He and Sweed are both getting beat by better personnel.

Sweed can at least contribute on special teams. I say dress him and let him run up and down and hit some people on ST coverages.

McDonald is pure insurance in case of injury to a starting WR.

I understand what you're saying. It could be that after the dropped passes, Tomlin is going to make Sweed earn his way out of that sweatsuit.

Angus Burgher
11-06-2009, 10:31 AM
Maybe they should take the Reggie Bush route and only use him on gadget running plays. They've done this a few times with Wallace, with great success. Sweed is fast too, and can hit guys pretty hard... maybe he'd make a good gadget play RB.

revefsreleets
11-06-2009, 11:20 AM
He can catch in the preseason...and that probably extended into practice as well.

So, let me take another angle here....and I'll take an answer form anybody who still wants to give Sweed chance #15. Why do YOU think he's on the bench 7 games into his second season?

steelreserve
11-06-2009, 11:33 AM
McDonald dresses and usually doesnt get on the field ( in any capacity). He and Sweed are both getting beat by better personnel.

That's the funny part about all this. It hardly even matters who the fourth wide receiver is on this team. Miller is basically the fourth receiver anyway. Moore and Mendenhall are good enough receivers that they often fill up the last eligible slot themselves. The fourth receiver for us hardly even gets on the field.

The position is basically just insurance against someone getting injured, or in case Ward retires or Holmes demands a giant diva contract and doesn't get it. Because of those last two angles, I'd be surprised to see Sweed go before his contract is up. But at this point, I'd also be surprised to see him turn the corner. Who knows, maybe he will surprise us. But I'm not holding my breath.

Steelerstrength
11-06-2009, 01:30 PM
While performing my cardio on the tread this morning, I chose to watch last years AFC Championship vs the Ratbirds. There it was, Limas Sweed is wide open, and he drops the easy touchdown!

The sting of watching that play once again has me questioning his value to the team. I guess if we keep him around long enough he might have an opportunity to contribute. A sad statement of reality for one with such high hopes. Damn!

MasterOfPuppets
11-06-2009, 03:51 PM
Maybe they should take the Reggie Bush route and only use him on gadget running plays. They've done this a few times with Wallace, with great success. Sweed is fast too, and can hit guys pretty hard... maybe he'd make a good gadget play RB.

:pde:

Angus Burgher
11-06-2009, 04:53 PM
Just a thought. Maybe a stupid one, but you've got to get your money's worth somehow.

T&B fan
11-06-2009, 05:42 PM
Just a thought. Maybe a stupid one, but you've got to get your money's worth somehow.

now where talking if he stays on for another yr he needs to take a big pay cut ........:coffee:

Merchant
11-06-2009, 06:41 PM
Sweed will be a beast. I feel it. Give him some time. He'll be like Mario Williams. Everyone thought he was a bust initially, now what?