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mesaSteeler
11-05-2009, 10:32 PM
Worst coverage unit in team history?
http://pit.scout.com/2/916623.html
By Jim Wexell
SteelCityInsider.com
Posted Nov 5, 2009

The Steelers need a boost in their kickoff coverage, and it could come from one of three players.

PITTSBURGH – Steelers special teams coach Bob Ligashesky smiled and said little when asked about Anthony Madison.

“We coach the guys we got,” Ligashesky said.

Madison led the Steelers last season with 25 special-teams tackles, and then led them in postseason tackles with 7. But he was cut after camp and picked up by the Cleveland Browns, who just released him this week.

Madison played against the Steelers, and tackled Stephan Logan on the opening kickoff after Logan appeared to have burst into the clear. Madison held contain and made the tackle, something the Steelers haven’t done well the last two games.

The Steelers have given up touchdown returns of 98 yards to Josh Cribbs and 88 yards to Percy Harvin the last two games. The last time the Steelers allowed two kickoff returns for touchdowns in a season was 1994.

The unit that ranked first in the league in covering kicks last year (19.1) now ranks 23rd at an all-time franchise high (stats go back to 1969) average of 24.5 yards per return.

What’s missing?

Well, besides Madison, James Harrison and Andre Frazier, the Steelers believe it’s fundamentals. So they went back to basics this week, breaking out the sleds and the tackling dummies and the ball-on-a-stick from the shed.

“We re-emphasized those fundamentals at the time of the bye week,” Ligashesky said.

“That’s all it is,” said Arnold Harrison. “It’s the middle of the season and we’ve got to remember all the things that got us to the point we’re at. It’s all about getting back to the basics. We’re going to be fine.”

A splash of talent wouldn’t hurt. The Steelers admitted their mistake once in cutting Chidi Iwuoma. They re-signed him during the Bill Cowher era. Why not admit the mistake and re-sign Madison?

“I’m not going to get into that,” said Keyaron Fox. “But you definitely can.”

Madison (25) and Fox (21) were the only special-teamers last season with more than 12 tackles. Madison has been replaced by an array of gunners and contain men to little success.

Perhaps the Steelers will need Keiwan Ratliff as a spare safety on Monday, and perhaps a game-day roster opening affords rookie Keenan Lewis an opportunity to showcase his talents. If Mike Tomlin remains displeased after the game, he could bring Madison back in the future.

And what about James Harrison? An explosive special-teams coverage man the last five seasons, Harrison has yet to cover a kick this season. Might he make a surprise appearance Monday night to help contain Broncos return man Eddie Royal?

“I guess you’ll have to find out,” was all Ligashesky would say.

Of course, the Steelers will have Frazier back. In spite of missing the last two games with a quadriceps injury, the reserve linebacker has 10 special-teams tackles to remain second on the team to Fox’s 12.

Frazier’s absence the last two games has been cited by some who attempt to explain the two touchdown returns.

“I wouldn’t necessarily say that,” Frazier said. “They know that I love to make the tackles, I love to be the guy getting patted on the back, so maybe that’s why my name’s being thrown around.”

It’s all about the standard remaining the same with Tomlin, no matter who steps in and plays. Yet, the numbers say otherwise. They say the standard has slipped dramatically, even historically.

NOTES – The only players to miss Thursday’s practice were Travis Kirschke (calf) and Lawrence Timmons (ankle).

tyler289
11-05-2009, 10:48 PM
The first year of Tomlin's regime was definitely worse.

MasterOfPuppets
11-06-2009, 12:52 AM
cut davis and resign madison...problem solved...:noidea:

solardave
11-06-2009, 04:41 AM
cut davis and resign madison...problem solved...:noidea:

Could work.
We're not using him anyway.

WeegiesWarriors
11-06-2009, 09:44 AM
The worse was 2001. Cover a damn punt and we're in another Super Bowl. That year the entire ST's were in disarray. Merry Kris-Miss Brown couldn't kick a FG.

I think a lot of the problem is most fans, including me, just assume you can plug any backup into a kick coverage team. That obviously isn't true. There' s just more to it than that.

truesteelerfan
11-06-2009, 09:57 AM
The tackling dummies are a good start, but instead just put Logan back there-if they can tackle him.....then another body type such as MeMo.....if they can stop him also, they can stop anyone in the league.

fansince'76
11-06-2009, 11:20 AM
So, in 77 seasons of existence, including the first 40 or so of which the team as a whole was the joke of the league, this year's version of the Steelers' kick coverage unit is the worst of all of them?

Hyperbole, anyone? :coffee:

revefsreleets
11-06-2009, 11:31 AM
Let's see...one of our best ST players from last year is available. The ST play this year is notably worse. We have a completely useless player we're carrying on the roster contributing nothing.

Why don't we end the Sweed experiment and sign Madison like yesterday?

steelreserve
11-06-2009, 11:36 AM
Let's see...one of our best ST players from last year is available. The ST play this year is notably worse. We have a completely useless player we're carrying on the roster contributing nothing.

Why don't we end the Sweed experiment and sign Madison like yesterday?

Aww, you got my hopes up that you meant Parker. What a tease.

The_WARDen
11-06-2009, 11:41 AM
Aww, you got my hopes up that you meant Parker. What a tease.

hey now, Parker makes a contribution...he justifies the need for a trainer.

revefsreleets
11-06-2009, 12:06 PM
Willie Parker 2009:

60 attempts
187 yards
(Ready for THIS?????)

FIVE catches for 53 yards.

He also has a TD.

Compared to Sweed, Parker is practically Walter Payton...

The_WARDen
11-06-2009, 02:11 PM
To be honest, I think the coverage was way worse in '43. That year was really bad!

El-Gonzo Jackson
11-07-2009, 01:34 AM
Wexell writes a lot of trash. The team is 5-2 and the stats fail to take into account the obvious holding penalties not called on the Cribbs TD and the Harvin TD. Stats mean crap, the coverage team will get better with the return of Frazier and more focus by Ligashesky on the gunners.

Aussie_steeler
11-07-2009, 03:42 AM
Let's see...one of our best ST players from last year is available. The ST play this year is notably worse. We have a completely useless player we're carrying on the roster contributing nothing.

Why don't we end the Sweed experiment and sign Madison like yesterday?

Why does every thread have to turn into "lets shit on Limas Sweed"???

Joe Burnett would be at more risk of being cut . Let him try clear waivers and land on the practice squad.

Why not cut Tony Hills. He was drafted in the same class and has done what??
Hell - why not just piss Dennis Dixon off too - because he has done squat.

(insert one giant sarcasm smilie)

markymarc
11-08-2009, 11:43 AM
Why does Jim Wexell write trash like this? Yes our special teams coverage has been worse compared to last year. Last season Patrick Bailey made a name for himself by being really good on special teams. Where has he been this year? While it would be nice to pick up Anthony Madison, who do you cut then? If James Harrison starts playing and getting Andre Frazier back should help boost our coverage a little bit.

revefsreleets
11-09-2009, 11:36 AM
Why does every thread have to turn into "lets shit on Limas Sweed"???

Joe Burnett would be at more risk of being cut . Let him try clear waivers and land on the practice squad.

Why not cut Tony Hills. He was drafted in the same class and has done what??
Hell - why not just piss Dennis Dixon off too - because he has done squat.

(insert one giant sarcasm smilie)

None of those guys has been demoted from #3 to #4 then benched.

markymarc
11-09-2009, 05:00 PM
None of those guys has been demoted from #3 to #4 then benched.

Is your hate for Sweed flame ever going to die out :chuckle:

El-Gonzo Jackson
11-10-2009, 12:22 AM
Why does Jim Wexell write trash like this? Yes our special teams coverage has been worse compared to last year. Last season Patrick Bailey made a name for himself by being really good on special teams. Where has he been this year? While it would be nice to pick up Anthony Madison, who do you cut then? If James Harrison starts playing and getting Andre Frazier back should help boost our coverage a little bit.

Yeah, Wexell's crap article is debunked again. :coffee:

revefsreleets
11-10-2009, 12:28 PM
Is your hate for Sweed flame ever going to die out :chuckle:
I don't hate him....just want the 53rd roster spot filled with a player who can actually play a position effectively.

markymarc
11-10-2009, 01:19 PM
I don't hate him....just want the 53rd roster spot filled with a player who can actually play a position effectively.

You really need to stop it :chuckle:

revefsreleets
11-10-2009, 01:40 PM
I'm just trying to understand what this obsession with Limas Sweed is. I remember the last 2nd rounder that couldn't play in the NFL, and the fans were ready to run him out of town on a rail after his first season and he actually contributed on special teams.

Is it simply because so many people were originally wrong and thought he was going to be something special?