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Steelboy84
11-07-2009, 04:15 PM
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The Pittsburgh Steelers are the only team in NFL history with 6 SB titles. That alone makes them the greatest, right? Well, not quite. Its much deeper than that.

While replying to another thread, I went through all the SB winning franchises and brought up the consistency of these different franchises over the past 40 years. No other team has been more consistent since the 1970 NFL-AFL merger than the Pittsburgh Steelers. First, the competition:

Dallas Cowboys- 5 SB titles, but 0 appearances in the 80's or 00's.

S.F. 49ers- 5 SB titles, 4 in the 80's, 1 in the 90's, but nothing during the 70's or this decade.

New England "kickball" team- recent success, first SB win in 2002, not much of a franchise before the infamous "tuck" (Brady) rule.

Raiders- 3 SB titles, but haven't won a title since 1983, no appearances during the 90's.

Washington Redskins- 3 SB titles, but 0 appearances in the 00's.

Denver Broncos- 2 SB titles, but 0 appearances in the 00's.

New York Giants- 3 SB titles, but nothing during the 70's.

Miami Dolphins- 2 SB titles, but none since 1973. 0 appearances during the 90's and 00's. No appearances since 1984-85 season.

Green Bay Packers- 3 SB titles, but no appearances during the 80's or 00's.


The Steelers are the only team in NFL history that has appeared in a SB in 4 different decades (yes, I'm being biased including the 1980 SB win against the Rams): 3 in the 70's, 1 in the 80's, 1in the 90's, 2 in the 00's. No other team can say that.

The Steelers were the first AFC team to 500 franchise wins. The Steelers have more wins (395), a better win percentage (.608), more all-pros (64), and more division titles (19) since the 1970 NFL-AFL merger than any other team. They are currently tied with the Dallas Cowboys for most playoff wins (31).

The Steelers are third in total Hall of Famers behind the Bears and Packers with 18, and that's not even counting our future hall of famers (Ben, Hines, Troy, LeBeau, Jerome, the list goes on and on and on.)

The Steelers have won a SB against a team from three different divisions: 2-1 against Dallas (NFC East), 1-0 against the Rams (NFC West), 1-0 against the Minnesota Vikings (NFC North/Central), 1-0 against the Seahawks (NFC West), and 1-0 against the Cardinals (NFC West). And just for the hell of it, we also won a SB title in Tampa Bay (NFC South stadium). :thumbsup:

No other team has won 4 SB titles in 6 years. In fact, no other team has won Super bowls back-to-back twice.

More history you say?

The last two SB titles for the Steelers have been historic. The Steelers won SB XL as the lowest seed in NFL history. They went on the road and beat the top 3 teams in the AFC that year. THEN, they had to "go on the road again" and beat the best the NFC had to offer, the Seattle Seahawks.

If that wasn't enough, they won SB XLIII with the toughest schedule in NFL history.

They had to beat the SD Chargers twice, the Baltimore Ravens three times, then one of the most prolific offenses in the NFL, the Arizona Cardinals, ALL OF THIS, with one of the worst offensive lines in SB history and a non-existent running game.

The Steelers have the best NFL fans according to ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview08/columns/story?id=3530077

The Steelers have more female fans than any another team in the NFL.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/20750560/ :thumbsup:

The Steelers have won 6 SB titles under the same ownership/family. They have only had 3 head coaches in the last 40 years. How impressive is that?

The Dallas Cowboys have had 4 since 1997. :chuckle:


Just look at their body of work. The Pittsburgh Steelers have been the MOST consistent team over the last 40 years.

All of this would make my Dallas Cowboy loving uncle sick to his stomach.

:thumbsup: :drink: :tt03: :tt02: :tt04: :applaudit: :hatsoff:

solardave
11-07-2009, 04:33 PM
Good read. I agree but I'm biased.

Steelboy84
11-07-2009, 04:35 PM
Good read. I agree but I'm biased.

lol

:tt03: :thumbsup: :drink:

Preacher
11-07-2009, 04:41 PM
The Steelers are the only team in NFL history that has appeared in a SB in 4 different decades (yes, I'm being biased including the 1980 SB win against the Rams): 3 in the 70's, 1 in the 80's, 1in the 90's, 2 in the 00's. No other team can say that.

Only place I disagree.

WHen you count the very first item, you start at 1. So when you count years, you start at the first year, or 1. 10 years then, is years 1-10. So year 10, year 20, or year 1980, are all part of that previous series. In other words, 1980 is part of the decade of the 70's.

Why is that important? Because if we can win the SB this year and next year, we will have won 4 superbowls in one decade for a second time, as the season is the 2009 season!!

Steelboy84
11-07-2009, 04:49 PM
Only place I disagree.

WHen you count the very first item, you start at 1. So when you count years, you start at the first year, or 1. 10 years then, is years 1-10. So year 10, year 20, or year 1980, are all part of that previous series. In other words, 1980 is part of the decade of the 70's.

Why is that important? Because if we can win the SB this year and next year, we will have won 4 superbowls in one decade for a second time, as the season is the 2009 season!!

Oh yea I know man. I'm just a "bit" bias. You know, just a "bit". :thumbsup:

Steelboy84
11-07-2009, 04:54 PM
Here's another stat. The Steelers have never had a season since 1970 in which they lost less than 5 games. None.

Think of all the teams that have gone 1-15 or 2-14 or 3-13 or 4-12. Even Dallas had a 1-15 season once!!!!!!! Even Peyton Manning has had a 3-13 season!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is impressive, even with a stat like this!

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Steelboy84
11-07-2009, 05:08 PM
Since watching football in the early 90's, I realized (until 2006) just how hard it really is to get the the SB, let alone win it. I told my cousin that all I wanted to see in my life was one, just ONE Steelers SB win and I'd be content, because he saw the Steelers win all 6. He was around during that Steel Curtain era. I had to suffer through losing to SD in the AFC Championship game in 1995, losing to Dallas in the SB in 1996, losing to the Pats in 1997, beating Denver in the reg. season then losing to them in the AFC title game in 1998, then that 3 year slide from 1998-2001. All through the "Slash" era, Jim Miller, Tomczak, Tommy Maddox, losing to the Pats in 2002, getting screwed by the refs against the Titans in 2003 on that FG attempt, losing again in 2005 to the Pats after going 15-1 in the reg. season and Ben getting off to a great start in his career. Oh yea, I suffered.

Then the Steelers gave me another SB win 3 yrs later. :thumbsup: :drink:

wootawnee
11-07-2009, 07:08 PM
Yea that all might be true........but......this year is the one that counts this year........And that is the most important thing to know..........How many pats on the back do ya need for you ego?............All this jazz is the same as all the jazz that surrounds the patriots now..........The best team boo hoo........You gotta win in 09...... Were 5-2........Gotta win Monday......

4xSBChamps
11-07-2009, 11:40 PM
Let's get a little grasp on reality here, as you are basically parlaying almost 40 years of success into "best team in NFL history" of a League that is conducting it's 90th season of operation:
this is my 42nd season of following 'em Stillers, and while I am a big a fan as anybody, I'm not foolish-enough to pass-judgement of 90 years over a select 40 seasons favoring a single franchise.

* By the time 'em Stillers qualified for their 1st-ever play-off appearence in 1972, the Green Bay Packers had won an even-dozen titles, in '29, 30, '31 (these first 3 were before 'em Stillers even joined the League), '36, '39, '44, then reeled-off 5 in 7 years in the Sixties, in '61, '62, '65, '66, '67, then in '96:
had the NFL-AFL World Championship Game been instituted when the AFL was born, can anybody doubt that the Pack would've won the Super Bowls after '61, '62, & '65, too?

* The Chicago Bears have won 7 Championships, in '1933, '40, '41, '43, '46, '63, and in '85, and their founder was influential in the League forming, then surviving, in it's formative years

* In addition to their 3 Lombardi Trophies, the New York Giants won another 3 Championships in the days before the Super Bowl, in '34, '38, and '56, and played in another 11 Championship Games in-which they lost ('33, '35, '39, '41, '44, '46, '58, '59, '61, '62, and '63):
the only decade in-which they didn't play for a Championship at-least once were the 1970s, a truly rough patch for that franchise

* when the Rams left Cleveland after the '45 season, and nobody wanted to place an NFL team in that city, Paul Brown formed a team, agreeing to play in the newly-formed All American Football Conference:
they lost a total of 4 games between 1946 & 1949, and won every AAFC title ever contested, with Brown offering 'challenges' to NFL teams that were never accepted.

Upon the AAFC folding after '49, the Browns were accepted into the NFL, and scheduled to play their first-ever League game against the defending Champions from Philthadelphia in the City of Muggerly-Thugs, maybe to teach the upstarts a lesson:
Cleveland won that game 35-10, passing for 448 yards, and following that game, Philthadelphia Coach Greasy Neale said Cleveland couldn't beat the Eagles by running the ball, so when they played again in December, Paul Brown instructed his team to not throw a single forward pass, and they still won that game 9-2, and eventually the NFL Championship in their first season of play

One reason 'em Stillers, who entered the League in 1933, are the first AFC team to win 500 games is because the 10 AFL teams that formed the bulk of the 'original' 13 AFC teams have only played since 1960 (i.e. - they'd need to average 10 wins every year since their inception), while the other teams that swapped Conferences (Cleveland & Baltimore) began playing in 1950, meaning 'em Stillers had a 17 year advantage over them, too:
just tryin' to put this into some rational context.
:drink:

I dug-up these facts from several hard-bound books I've collected about the NFL & 'em Stillers over the last 40+ years, then found this site:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/

I realize you are fairly young, enthusiastic, and a die-hard Stiller-fan, but you gotta realize that there was LOSTA footbal played before Franco Harris caught a deflected pass in December of 1972, and those organizations weren't slouches:
'greatness' didn't begin when Jaworsti & Berman came "rumblin', fumblin', stumblin' " into our living-rooms 30 years ago, hyping the now, at the expense of the League's rich & vast history.

Honestly, I didn't mean to rain on your parade.
:drink:


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Glensgages/football/ArtRooneywithgameballLombardiTrophy.jpg

MasterOfPuppets
11-08-2009, 01:51 AM
:cheer:

steelreserve
11-08-2009, 05:22 AM
Why is that important? Because if we can win the SB this year and next year, we will have won 4 superbowls in one decade for a second time, as the season is the 2009 season!!

I think you're missing the point if THAT would be what made us the best team. Screw the statistical technicalities; that would mean we won 3 Super Bowls in a row. Nobody's done that before, and I really doubt anyone would for a few decades after. Plus, it would mean the Patriots could suck my dick like a fat chick who usually gets passed over for her hot friend.

SteelersMongol
11-08-2009, 07:22 AM
Let's get a little grasp on reality here, as you are basically parlaying almost 40 years of success into "best team in NFL history" of a League that is conducting it's 90th season of operation:
this is my 42nd season of following 'em Stillers, and while I am a big a fan as anybody, I'm not foolish-enough to pass-judgement of 90 years over a select 40 seasons favoring a single franchise.

* By the time 'em Stillers qualified for their 1st-ever play-off appearence in 1972, the Green Bay Packers had won an even-dozen titles, in '29, 30, '31 (these first 3 were before 'em Stillers even joined the League), '36, '39, '44, then reeled-off 5 in 7 years in the Sixties, in '61, '62, '65, '66, '67, then in '96:
had the NFL-AFL World Championship Game been instituted when the AFL was born, can anybody doubt that the Pack would've won the Super Bowls after '61, '62, & '65, too?

* The Chicago Bears have won 7 Championships, in '1933, '40, '41, '43, '46, '63, and in '85, and their founder was influential in the League forming, then surviving, in it's formative years

* In addition to their 3 Lombardi Trophies, the New York Giants won another 3 Championships in the days before the Super Bowl, in '34, '38, and '56, and played in another 11 Championship Games in-which they lost ('33, '35, '39, '41, '44, '46, '58, '59, '61, '62, and '63):
the only decade in-which they didn't play for a Championship at-least once were the 1970s, a truly rough patch for that franchise

* when the Rams left Cleveland after the '45 season, and nobody wanted to place an NFL team in that city, Paul Brown formed a team, agreeing to play in the newly-formed All American Football Conference:
they lost a total of 4 games between 1946 & 1949, and won every AAFC title ever contested, with Brown offering 'challenges' to NFL teams that were never accepted.

Upon the AAFC folding after '49, the Browns were accepted into the NFL, and scheduled to play their first-ever League game against the defending Champions from Philthadelphia in the City of Muggerly-Thugs, maybe to teach the upstarts a lesson:
Cleveland won that game 35-10, passing for 448 yards, and following that game, Philthadelphia Coach Greasy Neale said Cleveland couldn't beat the Eagles by running the ball, so when they played again in December, Paul Brown instructed his team to not throw a single forward pass, and they still won that game 9-2, and eventually the NFL Championship in their first season of play

One reason 'em Stillers, who entered the League in 1933, are the first AFC team to win 500 games is because the 10 AFL teams that formed the bulk of the 'original' 13 AFC teams have only played since 1960 (i.e. - they'd need to average 10 wins every year since their inception), while the other teams that swapped Conferences (Cleveland & Baltimore) began playing in 1950, meaning 'em Stillers had a 17 year advantage over them, too:
just tryin' to put this into some rational context.
:drink:

I dug-up these facts from several hard-bound books I've collected about the NFL & 'em Stillers over the last 40+ years, then found this site:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/

I realize you are fairly young, enthusiastic, and a die-hard Stiller-fan, but you gotta realize that there was LOSTA footbal played before Franco Harris caught a deflected pass in December of 1972, and those organizations weren't slouches:
'greatness' didn't begin when Jaworsti & Berman came "rumblin', fumblin', stumblin' " into our living-rooms 30 years ago, hyping the now, at the expense of the League's rich & vast history.

Honestly, I didn't mean to rain on your parade.
:drink:


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Glensgages/football/ArtRooneywithgameballLombardiTrophy.jpg

So true. Still 2 think Packers have 12 & V have only 6, makes me want more. :thumbsup: Thanks 4 the facts.

HometownGal
11-08-2009, 07:30 AM
Very nice read and even though I am just an itsy bitsy bit biased, I don't discount the accomplishments of the other teams who have won Super Bowls in the last 40+ seasons, except for, well maybe, the Cheats*. Though I'm not overly fond of the Cryboys or the Niners, those were some damned good teams during their runs.

However - not "if" but WHEN the Steelers hoist Lombardi #7 this season, I'll most likely change my tune. (Hey - it's a woman's perogative to change her mind, isn't it? :wink: :chuckle:)

4xSBChamps
11-08-2009, 07:36 AM
Very nice read and even though I am just an itsy bitsy bit biased, I don't discount the accomplishments of the other teams who have won Super Bowls in the last 40+ seasons, except for, well maybe, the Cheats*. Though I'm not overly fond of the Cryboys or the Niners, those were some damned good teams during their runs.


when speaking about the All-Time Great franchises in League history, the Patsies* are a bug on the windshield of life

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Glensgages/football/Patriotfansest2002.jpg

Steelboy84
11-08-2009, 08:36 AM
Very nice read and even though I am just an itsy bitsy bit biased, I don't discount the accomplishments of the other teams who have won Super Bowls in the last 40+ seasons, except for, well maybe, the Cheats*. Though I'm not overly fond of the Cryboys or the Niners, those were some damned good teams during their runs.

However - not "if" but WHEN the Steelers hoist Lombardi #7 this season, I'll most likely change my tune. (Hey - it's a woman's perogative to change her mind, isn't it? :wink: :chuckle:)

Since the story broke of "spygate", it could be argued that the Pats haven't even won a "real" SB title yet. :thumbsup:

Yea I respect what the Niners did, but I respect nothing Dallas does. Just a bunch of steroid and dope heads with lots of money.

Stlrs4Life
11-08-2009, 09:27 AM
'greatness' didn't begin when Jaworsti & Berman came "rumblin', fumblin', stumblin' "


Jaworsti, now that's funny! LOL!

markymarc
11-08-2009, 11:30 AM
Great post and I am definitely biased :tt02: Once the Steelers raise #7 this year, then we will also be known as team of this decade. Another stat to add to this argument!

Steelboy84
11-08-2009, 11:31 AM
I think you're missing the point if THAT would be what made us the best team. Screw the statistical technicalities; that would mean we won 3 Super Bowls in a row. Nobody's done that before, and I really doubt anyone would for a few decades after. Plus, it would mean the Patriots could suck my dick like a fat chick who usually gets passed over for her hot friend.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaha hahahahahahahahaahahahahaha





Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha, yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rofl: :chuckle: :applaudit: :hatsoff: :wave:

rich4eagle
11-08-2009, 06:47 PM
But first, a word from our sponsor.

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The Pittsburgh Steelers are the only team in NFL history with 6 SB titles. That alone makes them the greatest, right? Well, not quite. Its much deeper than that.

While replying to another thread, I went through all the SB winning franchises and brought up the consistency of these different franchises over the past 40 years. No other team has been more consistent since the 1970 NFL-AFL merger than the Pittsburgh Steelers. First, the competition:

Dallas Cowboys- 5 SB titles, but 0 appearances in the 80's or 00's.

S.F. 49ers- 5 SB titles, 4 in the 80's, 1 in the 90's, but nothing during the 70's or this decade.

New England "kickball" team- recent success, first SB win in 2002, not much of a franchise before the infamous "tuck" (Brady) rule.

Raiders- 3 SB titles, but haven't won a title since 1983, no appearances during the 90's.

Washington Redskins- 3 SB titles, but 0 appearances in the 00's.

Denver Broncos- 2 SB titles, but 0 appearances in the 00's.

New York Giants- 3 SB titles, but nothing during the 70's.

Miami Dolphins- 2 SB titles, but none since 1973. 0 appearances during the 90's and 00's. No appearances since 1984-85 season.

Green Bay Packers- 3 SB titles, but no appearances during the 80's or 00's.


The Steelers are the only team in NFL history that has appeared in a SB in 4 different decades (yes, I'm being biased including the 1980 SB win against the Rams): 3 in the 70's, 1 in the 80's, 1in the 90's, 2 in the 00's. No other team can say that.

The Steelers were the first AFC team to 500 franchise wins. The Steelers have more wins (395), a better win percentage (.608), more all-pros (64), and more division titles (19) since the 1970 NFL-AFL merger than any other team. They are currently tied with the Dallas Cowboys for most playoff wins (31).

The Steelers are third in total Hall of Famers behind the Bears and Packers with 18, and that's not even counting our future hall of famers (Ben, Hines, Troy, LeBeau, Jerome, the list goes on and on and on.)

The Steelers have won a SB against a team from three different divisions: 2-1 against Dallas (NFC East), 1-0 against the Rams (NFC West), 1-0 against the Minnesota Vikings (NFC North/Central), 1-0 against the Seahawks (NFC West), and 1-0 against the Cardinals (NFC West). And just for the hell of it, we also won a SB title in Tampa Bay (NFC South stadium). :thumbsup:

No other team has won 4 SB titles in 6 years. In fact, no other team has won Super bowls back-to-back twice.

More history you say?

The last two SB titles for the Steelers have been historic. The Steelers won SB XL as the lowest seed in NFL history. They went on the road and beat the top 3 teams in the AFC that year. THEN, they had to "go on the road again" and beat the best the NFC had to offer, the Seattle Seahawks.

If that wasn't enough, they won SB XLIII with the toughest schedule in NFL history.

They had to beat the SD Chargers twice, the Baltimore Ravens three times, then one of the most prolific offenses in the NFL, the Arizona Cardinals, ALL OF THIS, with one of the worst offensive lines in SB history and a non-existent running game.

The Steelers have the best NFL fans according to ESPN.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/preview08/columns/story?id=3530077

The Steelers have more female fans than any another team in the NFL.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/20750560/ :thumbsup:

The Steelers have won 6 SB titles under the same ownership/family. They have only had 3 head coaches in the last 40 years. How impressive is that?

The Dallas Cowboys have had 4 since 1997. :chuckle:


Just look at their body of work. The Pittsburgh Steelers have been the MOST consistent team over the last 40 years.

All of this would make my Dallas Cowboy loving uncle sick to his stomach.

:thumbsup: :drink: :tt03: :tt02: :tt04: :applaudit: :hatsoff:

Nice thread and great tribute to the beloved Steelers. I guess you threw out the first 33 years of the NFL as irrelevant. That is bad because it represents nearly half of league history.

Heck lets throw all of history before 1966 and we can proclaim a lot more.

Sorry my friend, as good as your post was it was COMPLETELY SHORT SIGHTED:tt:

Steelboy84
11-08-2009, 06:50 PM
Nice thread and great tribute to the beloved Steelers. I guess you threw out the first 33 years of the NFL as irrelevant. That is bad because it represents nearly half of league history.

Heck lets throw all of history before 1966 and we can proclaim a lot more.

Sorry my friend, as good as your post was it was COMPLETELY SHORT SIGHTED:tt:

If you notice, I constantly referred to the "1970 AFL-NFL merger".

:thumbsup:

rich4eagle
11-08-2009, 07:44 PM
So why does the lead thread say "NFL History" instead of since the 1970 merger. You cannot be all inclusive in the lead and the submersively forget half the history in the content.

Again, your bad. Great Stats..........that ignored half of the premise

Steelboy84
11-08-2009, 07:47 PM
So why does the lead thread say "NFL History" instead of since the 1970 merger. You cannot be all inclusive in the lead and the submersively forget half the history in the content.

Again, your bad. Great Stats..........that ignored half of the premise


Whatever man, just whatever. If me saying Pittsburgh is the best team in NFL history upsets you that much, then just wow. I don't really care.

Steelboy84
11-08-2009, 07:49 PM
Good grief. You show love to your team and people criticize you for it. Wow.

rich4eagle
11-08-2009, 07:55 PM
Oh, I certainly, think the Steelers qualify with about three or four others. They may well be the best in history.
Being a guy of utmost integrity and never refusing to ignore history. I just found your thread shallow and disregarding half the history of the NFL. With that you insulted histiory and and everything that happened before 1970.

That is unsuitable in making the claim "best ever" and forgetting the first half

I stick with what I said and you should if you want credibiltity make a revision to your statement and

clearly state the Steelers are the best since "1970"

LOUD AND CLEAR or present evidence as to why since 1933

Steelboy84
11-08-2009, 07:59 PM
Oh, I certainly, think the Steelers qualify with about three or four others. They may well be the best in history.
Being a guy of utmost integrity and never refusing to ignore history. I just found your thread shallow and disregarding half the history of the NFL. With that you insulted histiory and and everything that happened before 1970.

That is unsuitable in making the claim "best ever" and forgetting the first half

I stick with what I said and you should if you want credibiltity make a revision to your statement and

clearly state the Steelers are the best since "1970"

LOUD AND CLEAR or present evidence as to why since 1933


Oh well I'm so sorry for "insulting" the history before 1970.


:crying01: :crying01:


When the Steelers win the SB this year, I'll make sure not to come on and celebrate. I don't want to "offend" you.


Good grief.

rich4eagle
11-08-2009, 08:04 PM
:tt:look my friend I love the Steelers and I love being honest and credible more

Your post was neither............and you can easily fix both

Instead of trying to belittle me for trying to make your statement more than blowing in the wind

get some guts and fix what you said............

NOT TO ME for football and Steeler fans:tt::tt03::tt04::tt02:

OX1947
11-08-2009, 08:07 PM
Steelers are the best team since the merger. Before that, they hadnt even won 1 playoff game. The best team in NFL history is probably the Packers. They had great teams in each of the first 30, middle 30 and last 30 of the NFLs existence. And they have a total of 12 World titles. Steelers Do have the greatest defense of all time and I believe they have the most hall of famers, but I don't know that for sure.

Steelboy84
11-08-2009, 08:08 PM
look my friend I love the Steelers and I love being honest and credible more

Your post was neither............and you can easily fix both

Instead of trying to belittle me for trying to make your statement more than blowing in the wind

get some guts and fix what you said............

NOT TO ME for football and Steeler fans

And this is going to affect your everyday life................................how?

rich4eagle
11-08-2009, 08:14 PM
I hate to carry this to oblivion. The Steelers do have a statement that they are the best team ever. Meanwhile yoiu referenced the Packers who maybe you confused with the Bears as far as world titles.

The issue is when you make a claim DO NOT IGNORE THE STATS FOR HALF OF HISTORY

The Bears, Packers and Steelers, all should be considered for the greatest NFL franchise and I may have missed one

MY point remains nwhen you make a general statement DO NOT IGNORE HALF OF GENERALITY

Nadroj 20
11-08-2009, 08:16 PM
I hate to carry this to oblivion. The Steelers do have a statement that they are the best team ever. Meanwhile yoiu referenced the Packers who maybe you confused with the Bears as far as world titles.

The issue is when you make a claim DO NOT IGNORE THE STATS FOR HALF OF HISTORY

The Bears, Packers and Steelers, all should be considered for the greatest NFL franchise and I may have missed one

MY point remains nwhen you make a general statement DO NOT IGNORE HALF OF GENERALITY

Got to say i agree here, Steelboy your point is correct in thinking the Steelers are the best and im sure we all agree, but you did leave out half the history in your arguement which is all rich4eagle is saying, he isnt belitting your opinion in any way.

rich4eagle
11-08-2009, 08:18 PM
It must be affecting YOUR life since you refuse to admit or correct your error

and as Rhett Butler said .........frankly I do not give a damn

But me being a Steeler fan huge

I refuse to feed our great fans bullshot that is half based

Steelboy84
11-08-2009, 08:19 PM
I hate to carry this to oblivion. The Steelers do have a statement that they are the best team ever. Meanwhile yoiu referenced the Packers who maybe you confused with the Bears as far as world titles.

The issue is when you make a claim DO NOT IGNORE THE STATS FOR HALF OF HISTORY

The Bears, Packers and Steelers, all should be considered for the greatest NFL franchise and I may have missed one

MY point remains nwhen you make a general statement DO NOT IGNORE HALF OF GENERALITY

Okay dude, wonderful.

IMO, the Steelers are the best team in NFL history.

You can choose whatever team you feel is the best. That's on you.

No one else on this thread got offended by this but you.

But like I said, I have my opinion, you have yours.

Steelboy84
11-08-2009, 08:22 PM
It must be affecting YOUR life since you refuse to admit or correct your error

and as Rhett Butler said .........frankly I do not give a damn

But me being a Steeler fan huge

I refuse to feed our great fans bullshot that is half based

You must have given one (a d*mn).

Otherwise, you wouldn't have taken the time to reply to this thread. You could have kept those opinions to yourself. You're telling me about the Packers and Bears as if I care or something.

Who else got offended by what I said? No one.

4xSBChamps
11-08-2009, 08:22 PM
nobody is making a personal attack at you, but when you emphatically state 'best team in NFL history, take it to the bank', then conveniently IGNORE more than 50% of that body's history, you lose credibility, so expect to be called-out by those who are aware of the history of the game, and this League:
we are just trying to set the record straight..... otherwise, we are just lipstick-wearing, pom-pom shaking, pinkie-finger-stickin'-out front-runners, like the fans of the CryGirls & Patsies*, who don't let silly things like 'facts' get in the way of a good-story

Steelboy84
11-08-2009, 08:23 PM
I'm pretty sure every fan thinks "their" team is the best. That's why its called an OPINION!

Steelboy84
11-08-2009, 08:25 PM
nobody is making a personal attack at you, but when you emphatically state 'best team in NFL history, take it to the bank', then conveniently IGNORE more than 50% of that body's history, you lose credibility, so expect to be called-out by those who are aware of the history of the game, and this League:
we are just trying to set the record straight..... otherwise, we are just lipstick-wearing, pom-pom shaking, pinkie-finger-stickin'-out front-runners, like the fans of the CryGirls & Patsies*, who don't let silly things like 'facts' get in the way of a good-story

Well hey, I still think Pittsburgh is the best. So it is what it is.

rich4eagle
11-08-2009, 08:26 PM
Again, I will say it one more time! You made an all inclusive statement that ignored half the facts and half the HISTORY and then quoted history as a reference.

Either this is just your whim belief or it is based on history.

If it is a whim, how can I argue.

If it is based on history which your first thread provided huge data.............

complete the data for the rest of history

not just the part you like

What you should do is what I said earlier

Make a mea culpa and modify your claim for the part of history you think you know

and thanx 4xsbx\c for helping me with reason

Steelboy84
11-09-2009, 10:41 AM
Again, I will say it one more time! You made an all inclusive statement that ignored half the facts and half the HISTORY and then quoted history as a reference.

Either this is just your whim belief or it is based on history.

If it is a whim, how can I argue.

If it is based on history which your first thread provided huge data.............

complete the data for the rest of history

not just the part you like

What you should do is what I said earlier

Make a mea culpa and modify your claim for the part of history you think you know

and thanx 4xsbx\c for helping me with reason



:binky:

steelax04
11-09-2009, 01:32 PM
Your second to last statement...



Just look at their body of work. The Pittsburgh Steelers have been the MOST consistent team over the last 40 years.



So is it the NFL History or the last 40 years? If you change the topic title from "NFL History" to "the last 40 years" I think you're spot on. That's just my opinion, though.

revefsreleets
11-09-2009, 01:38 PM
Easy...Steelers are the greatest NFL franchise IN THE MODERN ERA.

Packers definitely all-time greatest. But it was a lot different back then. There weren't as many teams...the mountain wasn't as high to climb. There also wasn't much parity in a lot of those years...success bred success, and it was easier to stack the deck in their favor.

Steelboy84
11-09-2009, 01:53 PM
Easy...Steelers are the greatest NFL franchise IN THE MODERN ERA.

Packers definitely all-time greatest. But it was a lot different back then. There weren't as many teams...the mountain wasn't as high to climb. There also wasn't much parity in a lot of those years...success bred success, and it was easier to stack the deck in their favor.

Couple that will all the rule changes, offensive and defensive strategies, it has to be the Steelers.

Steelboy84
11-09-2009, 01:57 PM
Your second to last statement...



So is it the NFL History or the last 40 years? If you change the topic title from "NFL History" to "the last 40 years" I think you're spot on. That's just my opinion, though.

Well, when I made this post I had the last 40 years in mind (since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger). Also, I had what revefsreleets in mind too. So 40 yrs is as far as I went back.

I just think this modern era was much better, and his points were spot on.

(I can't change the title though, I don't think there are controls for that, but I do see your point.)

rich4eagle
11-09-2009, 03:13 PM
Why are you so belligerent to just ..............say..................In Modern times

That is beyond rational

Which makes astute fans to think you are irrational

and that makes all you say irrational

OR IS THAT OVER YOUR HEAD?

Steelboy84
11-09-2009, 06:20 PM
Why are you so belligerent to just ..............say..................In Modern times

That is beyond rational

Which makes astute fans to think you are irrational

and that makes all you say irrational

OR IS THAT OVER YOUR HEAD?

Oh God, please give it a rest.