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mesaSteeler
11-15-2009, 09:03 AM
Bengals fed up with Steeler bullies
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20091114/COL03/311140007/1082/SPT/Bengals+fed+up+with+Steeler+bullies
By Paul Daugherty
pdaugherty@enquirer.com

PITTSBURGH -- It’s always Pittsburgh. In Cincinnati, no pro football conversation of substance can occur that does not include Pittsburgh. It has been that way, with occasional blips, for more than 30 years. Almost since there was a Cincinnati Bengals, the Cincinnati Bengals have been climbing that Pittsburgh hill.

The road to salvation goes through Pittsburgh again, as it must, on Sunday afternoon. Bengals-Steelers. Or, rather, Steelers-Bengals. They define Us. They tell us who we are, they show us how it can be. We seek their approval. They are who we want to be.

It is the sad truth. It will make you angry. I understand. Pittsburgh Fan is a mindless slob/internet troll who can get downright medieval in the stands and in the men’s room. He revels obnoxiously in his steadfast loyalty, but really, there’s nothing noble about rooting for a chronic winner. It requires only your presence, not your guts. Let’s see you hang in there for 12 years of 5-11, Polamalu jersey-wearer.

Being a stout, longtime Bengals fan takes courage and character. Being a longtime Steelers fan takes a television and free time on Sunday afternoons. But the truth is immutable.

In Cincinnati, it’s always Pittsburgh. The Steelers are judge, jury and tormentor.

Are the Bengals for real? That was the question this week. Let’s see. They’re 6-2, just like Pittsburgh. They’ve beaten Pittsburgh already. Save for the Fluke of the Year, the Bengals are 7-1. It’s not enough. It’s never enough.

“Let’s see what the Bengals do Sunday,’’ comes the response. In Pittsburgh.

This must be what Dodgers fans felt like through most of the 1970s. You want to be legit? You want validated? Beat Cincinnati.

Carson Palmer knows. A few years ago, he said he “hated’’ the Steelers. It was nothing but a well-articulated jealousy. Freud would call it Pittsburgh Envy. Palmer said as much. Paraphrasing: “I want what they have.’’

The cities are similar geographically and in market size. They entertain the same brown river and big-shouldered hills. They’re owned by similar, NFL-pedigreed families. Pittsburgh has an East Coast edge to it. Cincinnati is coated in southern surface politeness. But their middle-American-ness is much the same.

A difference is football. Pittsburgh has made a habit of stealing Cincinnati’s lunch money. It’s not even a rivalry. The stakes aren’t often high enough.

It was the Steelers’ late radio man Myron Cope who coined the term “Bungles’’ to describe Cincinnati’s team pre-Marvin. It was Hines Ward who broke Keith Rivers’ jaw. It wasn’t a Raven or a Brown who ripped up Palmer’s knee. It was Kimo vonDream Killer. An ex-Bengal, for goodness sake. It’s always Pittsburgh.

Baltimore is good. But as Bobbie Williams noted, “We’ve had Baltimore’s number.”

The Bengals have never wanted to be the Ravens when they grew up. They’ve wanted to be Pittsburgh. Every conversation must include Pittsburgh.

There have been occasional respites. In the late 80s, the Bengals and Houston Oilers dusted it up. Both teams were good and had coaches who openly loathed one another. Sam Wyche and Jerry Glanville were twin sons of different mothers.

That didn’t stop them from jacking up the score on each other, whenever possible.

But this is different. Houston is now Tennessee, is now in another division. This is personal. The Bengals are Stallone. The Steelers are Eastwood. Stallone was good. He was never Eastwood. If the Bengals want to play Broadway, they have to trip the footlights in Pittsburgh. Always Pittsburgh.

This season offers Cincinnati its best chance in more than 20 years, better than 2005, when the “young and dumb” Bengals (Palmer’s description) won the division, then lost their QB and their poise on the same play. This time, the Bengals are ready emotionally for the big stage. They can handle the stakes. And they have players good enough to win.

Will they? “It would do something wonderful to the guys’ confidence,” said Bobbie Williams.

It’s a giant hurdle. It’s the only hurdle. Always has been.

Who are the Bengals?

Ask Pittsburgh.

SMR
11-15-2009, 09:14 AM
Bengals fed up with Steeler bullies
http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20091114/COL03/311140007/1082/SPT/Bengals+fed+up+with+Steeler+bullies
By Paul Daugherty
pdaugherty@enquirer.com

PITTSBURGH -- It’s always Pittsburgh. In Cincinnati, no pro football conversation of substance can occur that does not include Pittsburgh. It has been that way, with occasional blips, for more than 30 years. Almost since there was a Cincinnati Bengals, the Cincinnati Bengals have been climbing that Pittsburgh hill.

The road to salvation goes through Pittsburgh again, as it must, on Sunday afternoon. Bengals-Steelers. Or, rather, Steelers-Bengals. They define Us. They tell us who we are, they show us how it can be. We seek their approval. They are who we want to be.

It is the sad truth. It will make you angry. I understand. Pittsburgh Fan is a mindless slob/internet troll who can get downright medieval in the stands and in the men’s room. He revels obnoxiously in his steadfast loyalty, but really, there’s nothing noble about rooting for a chronic winner. It requires only your presence, not your guts. Let’s see you hang in there for 12 years of 5-11, Polamalu jersey-wearer.

Being a stout, longtime Bengals fan takes courage and character. Being a longtime Steelers fan takes a television and free time on Sunday afternoons. But the truth is immutable.

In Cincinnati, it’s always Pittsburgh. The Steelers are judge, jury and tormentor.

Are the Bengals for real? That was the question this week. Let’s see. They’re 6-2, just like Pittsburgh. They’ve beaten Pittsburgh already. Save for the Fluke of the Year, the Bengals are 7-1. It’s not enough. It’s never enough.

“Let’s see what the Bengals do Sunday,’’ comes the response. In Pittsburgh.

This must be what Dodgers fans felt like through most of the 1970s. You want to be legit? You want validated? Beat Cincinnati.

Carson Palmer knows. A few years ago, he said he “hated’’ the Steelers. It was nothing but a well-articulated jealousy. Freud would call it Pittsburgh Envy. Palmer said as much. Paraphrasing: “I want what they have.’’

The cities are similar geographically and in market size. They entertain the same brown river and big-shouldered hills. They’re owned by similar, NFL-pedigreed families. Pittsburgh has an East Coast edge to it. Cincinnati is coated in southern surface politeness. But their middle-American-ness is much the same.

A difference is football. Pittsburgh has made a habit of stealing Cincinnati’s lunch money. It’s not even a rivalry. The stakes aren’t often high enough.

It was the Steelers’ late radio man Myron Cope who coined the term “Bungles’’ to describe Cincinnati’s team pre-Marvin. It was Hines Ward who broke Keith Rivers’ jaw. It wasn’t a Raven or a Brown who ripped up Palmer’s knee. It was Kimo vonDream Killer. An ex-Bengal, for goodness sake. It’s always Pittsburgh.

Baltimore is good. But as Bobbie Williams noted, “We’ve had Baltimore’s number.”

The Bengals have never wanted to be the Ravens when they grew up. They’ve wanted to be Pittsburgh. Every conversation must include Pittsburgh.

There have been occasional respites. In the late 80s, the Bengals and Houston Oilers dusted it up. Both teams were good and had coaches who openly loathed one another. Sam Wyche and Jerry Glanville were twin sons of different mothers.

That didn’t stop them from jacking up the score on each other, whenever possible.

But this is different. Houston is now Tennessee, is now in another division. This is personal. The Bengals are Stallone. The Steelers are Eastwood. Stallone was good. He was never Eastwood. If the Bengals want to play Broadway, they have to trip the footlights in Pittsburgh. Always Pittsburgh.

This season offers Cincinnati its best chance in more than 20 years, better than 2005, when the “young and dumb” Bengals (Palmer’s description) won the division, then lost their QB and their poise on the same play. This time, the Bengals are ready emotionally for the big stage. They can handle the stakes. And they have players good enough to win.

Will they? “It would do something wonderful to the guys’ confidence,” said Bobbie Williams.

It’s a giant hurdle. It’s the only hurdle. Always has been.

Who are the Bengals?

Ask Pittsburgh.

lol

:applaudit:

stb_steeler
11-15-2009, 09:19 AM
Hopefully after today they are who we thought they were...The Bungholes!!! :tt02:

lamberts-lost-tooth
11-15-2009, 09:21 AM
....there’s nothing noble about rooting for a chronic winner. It requires only your presence, not your guts.....
Being a stout, longtime Bengals fan takes courage and character. Being a longtime Steelers fan takes a television and free time on Sunday afternoons.

OHHHHHHH!!!!! I get it!
All of us Steelers Fans would be "better" if we were only lucky enough to have a team that sucks like a Shopvac.
:thumbsup:

SMR
11-15-2009, 09:25 AM
OHHHHHHH!!!!! I get it!
All of us Steelers Fans would be "better" if we were only lucky enough to have a team that sucks like a Shopvac.
:thumbsup:

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

mesaSteeler
11-15-2009, 09:46 AM
The only solution to the Queen City's Bungholes pain is the Los Angeles Bengals. May we could move them into the AFC West where they could join other dysfunctional teams like the Raiders and the Chiefs.

jaygorius
11-15-2009, 09:50 AM
That's a pretty lame characterization of Steelers fans. I know it comes from envy on his part- like he talked about the players being jealous because they wanted to be like Pittsburgh, I think he is jealous of Steelers fans.

He says it is easy to be a Steelers fan because "being a longtime Steelers fan takes a television and free time on Sunday afternoons." But the thing is, Steelers fans eat, breathe, and sleep Steelers football. We read, talk, and follow them darn near 24/7. Being a Steelers fan is a full time "job" , not something that we just show up for Sunday afternoons and then forget about the rest of the week.

GoSlash27
11-15-2009, 09:56 AM
Didn't you hear? It's always more noble to be victim. :wink02:
And it's funny, 'cuz Cincy "fans" define the word 'bandwagon'.

I love how the entire division wants a team like ours, but can't have one *because* they are not us.
The only team in our division that stands any chance of becoming great is the Browns. They've got real fans who would support building for the long term and a tradition that the players would drive themselves to honor. Their only downfall is a front office that's worried more about profit margins than winning football games.

But the Bengals? They got nothin' beyond the occasional flashes of adequacy and the most fair-weather fanbase in the NFL. If they ever tried to build a team for the long haul, they'd go bankrupt because these people wouldn't attend games or buy merchandise.

They don't get it, and probably never will: We're not fans because the Steelers win, the Steelers win because we're fans. :drink: :tt02::tt03:

stillers4me
11-15-2009, 10:00 AM
We're not fans because the Steelers win, the Steelers win because we're fans.

:cheers:

markymarc
11-15-2009, 10:05 AM
Success will make a lot of people jealous including Bungles fans. The Steelers organization set the benchmark on how to win and be very successful. Like they always say it is a copycat league. Good luck trying to play catch up Bungles.

stb_steeler
11-15-2009, 10:06 AM
That's a pretty lame characterization of Steelers fans. I know it comes from envy on his part- like he talked about the players being jealous because they wanted to be like Pittsburgh, I think he is jealous of Steelers fans.

He says it is easy to be a Steelers fan because "being a longtime Steelers fan takes a television and free time on Sunday afternoons." But the thing is, Steelers fans eat, breathe, and sleep Steelers football. We read, talk, and follow them darn near 24/7. Being a Steelers fan is a full time "job" , not something that we just show up for Sunday afternoons and then forget about the rest of the week.

I guess they dont understand the phrase Bleed Black and Gold!

LVSteelersfan
11-15-2009, 10:44 AM
I detest the Bungles the least of our AFC North teams. Nonetheless, I never feel sorry for any of them when they are on their downturns. This year is the year the Bungles were supposed to step up and give us a run. Last year it was the Ratbirds. Two years ago it was the Clowns. Three years ago it was the Bungles. It runs in cycles but notice the one norm. The Steelers are always in the conversation while others come and go. I still laugh when I read of Derek Anderson being a pro-bowl QB. He backed into it because Brady was too embarassed to show his face after he lost that last SB. Anderson is more like a pro-blow QB. Palmer is good BUT folds under pressure more often than not.

mesaSteeler
11-15-2009, 10:46 AM
Bungholes blame us for their having some of the crappy ownership in sport and us for having the best. Go figure.

As far as Steelers fans vs Bunghole fans they forget that we went 21 years with out a Super Bowl. We even lost a Super Bowl during that time.

Did the Steelers Nation lose faith. - NO
Did the waiting list for season tickets decline. - NO
Do Steeler Fans tolerate punks and criminals on the team. - NO
Did the Steelers Nation keep taking over opponents stadiums. - YES
Did the Steelers keep selling out their home stadium. - YES
Did the world wide Steelers Nation keep growing during those 21 years. - YES
Did the Terrible Towel spread to every corner of the earth. - YES
Were there were more Steelers fans at the end of that 21 year drought than at their were at the beginning of that stretch. - YES!

Are the Bunghole whining losers. - YES
Do the Bungholes blame everyone else for their problems? - YES
Do the Bungholes fans tolerate convicted criminals and prancing punks on their team. - YES
Are the Bunghole fans outside of the Queen City? - NO
Do the Bungholes have a world wide following? - NO

In short the Pittsburgh Steelers fans are the finest in the world. Bunghole fans are just jealous, petty losers.

Bunghole fans are the Gollums (as in Lord of the Rings) of the NFL

Case Closed.

lamberts-lost-tooth
11-15-2009, 10:52 AM
I actually heard Chris Collinsworth (who I detest) say :

"Everyone things Steelers Fans travel well , but the truth is, Steeler fans live in every city and its those fans that invade the stadiums".

Yep...Its a Steeler Nation!!!!!

tony hipchest
11-15-2009, 10:57 AM
damn, even their reporters and beat writers are whining snivling pu$$ies.

SteelerFanInStl
11-15-2009, 11:18 AM
OHHHHHHH!!!!! I get it!
All of us Steelers Fans would be "better" if we were only lucky enough to have a team that sucks like a Shopvac.
:thumbsup:

:iagree: I got a good chuckle out of that. :toofunny:

HometownGal
11-15-2009, 11:36 AM
There, there little fella . . . don't kwy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/parenting/images/300/baby_crying_closeup.jpg

fansince'76
11-15-2009, 11:36 AM
This article = giant lump of crap. :poop:

tube517
11-15-2009, 11:42 AM
They said all this in 2005 and look what happened.

blah blah blah...they will never have enough to win it all let alone be a consistent division winner.