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mesaSteeler
11-17-2009, 05:59 AM
All is not lost for the Steelers
Tuesday, November 17, 2009
By Ron Cook, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09321/1014080-87.stm

Ike Taylor can only watch as the Bengals' Bernard Scott (28) celebrates with Quan Cosby after returning a kickoff for a touchdown in the first quarter Sunday. The Steelers' AFC North title chances are slim, but they do have an inside track on a wild-card slot in the playoffs.

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Nothing had changed by the Mourning After.

"We're still looking up," Steelers linebacker James Farrior said.

At the first-place Cincinnati Bengals.

It seems so strange.

The Bengals?

"They're definitely a better team than they've had in the past," Farrior said. "You've got to give them credit. They're the team to beat in the division right now. They've earned it. They're in a great spot."

So are the Steelers, hard as that is to believe after their deflating 18-12 home loss Sunday to the Bengals. Repeat after me: The world is not ending. The Steelers are in a terrific spot in terms of making the playoffs as a wild-card team. And as long as they get in ...

It's hard to think the Bengals won't win the AFC North Division because they've beaten the Steelers and the Baltimore Ravens twice and have all the tiebreakers. Their next three games are at Oakland and home against Cleveland and Detroit. They have only two games left against teams with winning records -- on the road at Minnesota and San Diego. Even if they lose both and go 5-2 down the stretch, the Steelers would have to go 7-0 to take the division title. That seems unlikely even if safety Troy Polamalu isn't seriously injured.

Sure, it's always possible the Bengals could get full of themselves and implode. "It's scary because everybody's going to be patting us on the back and telling us how good we are," quarterback Carson Palmer said. But they appear to have the leadership -- from coach Marvin Lewis on down -- to deal with their success. "I'm glad where we are," Lewis said. "But a lot of people left the Steelers for dead after we beat them there in 2005. They proved there's still a lot of football left. That's a lesson learned for our guys."

The Bengals were 9-3 and the Steelers 7-5 after the Bengals came to Heinz Field in early December '05 and won, 38-31. Jacksonville (9-3), Kansas City (8-4) and San Diego (8-4) had edges over the Steelers in the wild-card chase. I'm not sure, but I think the coroner was called in.

Prematurely, as it turned out.

The Steelers won their final four games in '05, made the playoffs as a wild-card team and beat the Bengals in Cincinnati on their way to Super Bowl XL. "I'd love to play 'em again and have the chance to do that same thing," Steelers guard Trai Essex said Sunday.

I see it happening.

Not necessarily another Super Bowl, although I'm not going to rule that out based on the loss Sunday.

That third game with the Bengals.

The Steelers are 6-3, clearly in much better shape than in '05. Their main competition for one of the two wild-card slots is San Diego (6-3) or Denver (6-3), Houston (5-4), Jacksonville (5-4) and Baltimore (4-4 before its game at Cleveland last night). That's not exactly Murderers' Row.

San Diego is going to win the AFC West. Denver has lost three in a row and should continue to tumble because a) it's not very good, b) it could be without injured quarterback Kyle Orton (ankle) for a time, and c) it has home games left with San Diego and the New York Giants and road games at Indianapolis and Philadelphia. Even if the Broncos survive all of that, they would lose the tiebreaker to the Steelers because of the Steelers' victory in Denver last week. The Steelers also own the tiebreaker against San Diego -- should it come to that -- because of their victory against the Chargers here in October.

It's hard to take Houston and Jacksonville seriously as playoff contenders. The Texans, in their eighth season, have never finished better than 8-8. The Jaguars were beaten, 41-0, by Seattle last month. Really, how good can they be?

Then, there's Baltimore. I have to admit, the Ravens worry me, assuming that they beat the pathetic Browns last night. They still have both games with the Steelers to play. It wouldn't be shocking if they won both, although that seems unlikely. But even if they do, they still have games with Indianapolis at home and at Green Bay on a Monday night. And remember, there are two wild-card spots.

"We're OK," Farrior said. "We're a very resilient team. We've got a great head coach who will keep us focused. We've got a great group of guys who have been through this before."

The man is right.

The Steelers will be just fine as long as they take care of their business, starting Sunday in Kansas City against the dreadful Chiefs. There's no real reason to think -- their lousy kickoff coverage aside -- that the loss to the Bengals will be anything more than just that, one loss. Four of the Steelers' final seven games are against teams with a losing record, six if the Ravens lost last night. Shame on them if they don't win enough to get to the playoffs.

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markymarc
11-17-2009, 10:24 AM
How dare anyone be positive after Sunday's loss :chuckle: And down the stretch they come :tt02:

OX1947
11-17-2009, 10:40 AM
Honestly. I would be very surprised if the Steeler lose more then one game the rest of the way. Ravens are struggling bad. They basically scored two TD's yesterday on mistakes by the Browns, other then that, their offense has digressed. Chiefs, Ravens, Raiders, Browns. lets say they go 3 out of 4 there. 9-4. Then the last three games are Packers at home, Ravens at home and Miami in Miami. Steelers would have a field day against the Packers at home, probably sacking Rodgers 10 times. Lets say we do our usual 1-1 against the Ravens so we win at home against them. And then the Miami game ends up being the division winner. Steelers 12-4 and Bengals end the year 11-5. That's how it would have to be. Bengals would be the first team ever to sweep their division and not win the division.

Steely McSmash
11-17-2009, 12:07 PM
I can see splitting Baltimore and the Packers putting up a good fight. Miami can't air it out so we should be able to dominate them.

So that would put us at 12-4 or 11-5

it would be a pretty good collapse for the Bengals to lose 3-4 games out of this:

@ Oakland , Cleveland , Detroit ,@ Minnesota , @ San Diego ,Kansas City ,@ NY Jets

They could lose vikings, chargers, jets and then one fluke loss to a clueless team. I guess if anyone is up to it it could be the bungles.

Nadroj 20
11-17-2009, 12:16 PM
I can see splitting Baltimore and the Packers putting up a good fight. Miami can't air it out so we should be able to dominate them.

So that would put us at 12-4 or 11-5

it would be a pretty good collapse for the Bengals to lose 3-4 games out of this:

@ Oakland , Cleveland , Detroit ,@ Minnesota , @ San Diego ,Kansas City ,@ NY Jets

They could lose vikings, chargers, jets and then one fluke loss to a clueless team. I guess if anyone is up to it it could be the bungles.

I dont see us spiltting with balitmore if they played like they did last night, not saying they will play like that, but that was a poor performance against a bad team

AllD
11-17-2009, 03:46 PM
I dont see us spiltting with balitmore if they played like they did last night, not saying they will play like that, but that was a poor performance against a bad team

You mean they played like us?:tt04:

Nadroj 20
11-17-2009, 05:56 PM
You mean they played like us?:tt04:

No not quite

stb_steeler
11-18-2009, 03:02 AM
Honestly. I would be very surprised if the Steeler lose more then one game the rest of the way. Ravens are struggling bad. They basically scored two TD's yesterday on mistakes by the Browns, other then that, their offense has digressed. Chiefs, Ravens, Raiders, Browns. lets say they go 3 out of 4 there. 9-4. Then the last three games are Packers at home, Ravens at home and Miami in Miami. Steelers would have a field day against the Packers at home, probably sacking Rodgers 10 times. Lets say we do our usual 1-1 against the Ravens so we win at home against them. And then the Miami game ends up being the division winner. Steelers 12-4 and Bengals end the year 11-5. That's how it would have to be. Bengals would be the first team ever to sweep their division and not win the division.

I like the sound of that...good point!

HometownGal
11-18-2009, 10:09 AM
I didn't think I'd ever agree with anything Uncle Marv said, as I've always viewed him as a seeping boil, but I have to agree with him here:

"But a lot of people left the Steelers for dead after we beat them there in 2005. They proved there's still a lot of football left.

He is absolutely right. The Steelers are going to have to pull out all the stops and pretty much win out to get into the playoffs this season, but I think if they follow Tomlin's cue and take one game at a time instead of looking down the road or worrying about what the Bungles and the other contenders in the AFC are doing, they can do great things as they did in 2005. :tt03:

Raynestorm
11-18-2009, 10:09 AM
Consider this...

Our remaining games: Baltimore x2, Cleveland, Green Bay in Pittsburgh, Oakland, KC, and Miami.

Folks, those games are VERY winnable.

Let's say we split with Baltimore - and I expect at least that - we should win the rest. That leaves us at 12-4.

The Bengals on the other hand, have three cupcake games coming up: Detroit, Oakland and Cleveland. BUT...

Three of their last four are: @ Minnisota, @ San Diego and they finish up @ the Jets.

I'm seeing 3 losses there, which would leave them at 11-5.

The_WARDen
11-18-2009, 10:13 AM
The Chicago game and both Bungle games were winnable also...but without Troy and if you toss in some ST stupidity, no game is a gimme.

scsteeler
11-18-2009, 12:27 PM
I can see splitting Baltimore and the Packers putting up a good fight. Miami can't air it out so we should be able to dominate them.

So that would put us at 12-4 or 11-5

it would be a pretty good collapse for the Bengals to lose 3-4 games out of this:

@ Oakland , Cleveland , Detroit ,@ Minnesota , @ San Diego ,Kansas City ,@ NY Jets

They could lose vikings, chargers, jets and then one fluke loss to a clueless team. I guess if anyone is up to it it could be the bungles.


I see the Steelers only losing one more game this year. The Bengals I see losing to the vikings and maybe to the Chargers but with the way their defense is playing i expect them to finish with a 12-4 record but winning on the tie breaker with the Steelers. Still a lot of football to be played though you never know. I predicted a 12-4 Season at the beginning of the season.

pancake
11-18-2009, 05:05 PM
Pittsburgh would need to run the table to have a shot at the North title... I do see the bungals losing to the Vikes and chargers.

AllD
11-18-2009, 05:20 PM
Steelers are favored to be the #1 WC team. SD #2 at this time.

AllD
11-18-2009, 05:55 PM
The way it is unfolding we will have to beat the Pats, Bengals, and Colts in order to make it to the Bowl. Then we would have to beat the best the NFC has to offer.

Immediately after the Bronco game everybody would have figured no problem. Now it looks like a huge task. But would we want it any differently? That would be like 2005 where we had to beat everybody would was anybody.