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SteelerEmpire
11-19-2009, 08:54 PM
Well, the top 3 for me:

Bush: 1- Almost total economic collapse./ At least were gonna get better roads via the stimulus.
2- An Iraqi war based on Iraq's WMD's (there was not any)./ At least Saddam's not with us anymore.
3- World wide disrespect among many nations./ But Israel, Britain, etc... is closer than ever.

Obama: 1- Were gonna be in debt for a good while./ Saved the nation's biggest banks...so that we folks on main street can still have an institution to get in debt to.
2- More debt with the immediate costs of health care reform./ Hopefully, no more folks getting screwed over by our current health care system.
3- If he turns out to actually be the anti-christ and succeeds in taking out the world./ Well, I guess the "good" of us will have heaven to look forward to... to be continued... :eye::eye:

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))http://static.open.salon.com/files/king+obama1233407361.jpg

)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_i584Z5gZp10/SXYXNpD6XbI/AAAAAAAAAIY/qBI6bV2iaaM/s400/obama_tut+side+view.jpg

Steelboy84
11-19-2009, 09:18 PM
Bush left us with over a half a trillion $ budget deficit (from a $128 billion budget surplus). Nearly $11 trillion in national debt, over 4,000 troops dead for a catastrophic mistake, a failing economy, failing housing market, a declining stock market, a poorly funded education system, and even more hatred from the Muslim world. Not to mention failing to provide better security on our borders.

But the best thing he left us was....................................ALONE!

:tt03: :tt03: :thumbsup: :drink: :applaudit:

GoSlash27
11-19-2009, 09:30 PM
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/andymiesha/AwJeezNotThisSheetAgain1.jpg

Dubya sucked. Yes he did.
Obama sucks. Yes he does.

MACH1
11-19-2009, 10:15 PM
Bush left us with over a half a trillion $ budget deficit (from a $128 billion budget surplus). Nearly $11 trillion in national debt, over 4,000 troops dead for a catastrophic mistake, a failing economy, failing housing market, a declining stock market, a poorly funded education system, and even more hatred from the Muslim world. Not to mention failing to provide better security on our borders.

But the best thing he left us was....................................ALONE!

:tt03: :tt03: :thumbsup: :drink: :applaudit:

:doh::doh:

you really are clueless. If I were you I'd forget about bu...bu...bu...bush and look at what your messiah is doing to this country now! What bush did is gonna pail in comparison.

HometownGal
11-19-2009, 10:19 PM
and even more hatred from the Muslim world.

Ahem. :tap:

http://doctorbulldog.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/obama_muslim_garb.jpg

http://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/world/gallery/2008/feb/26/2/GD6382720@epa01266971-(FILE)-A--3508.jpg


Bush left us with over a half a trillion $ budget deficit (from a $128 billion budget surplus). Nearly $11 trillion in national debt, over 4,000 troops dead for a catastrophic mistake, a failing economy, failing housing market, a declining stock market, a poorly funded education system, and even more hatred from the Muslim world. Not to mention failing to provide better security on our borders.


I think you'd better stop slurping that Obaaaaaaama Kool Aid and open your eyes.


http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/

President Barack Obama has repeatedly claimed that his budget would cut the deficit by half by the end of his term. But as Heritage analyst Brian Riedl has pointed out, given that Obama has already helped quadruple the deficit with his stimulus package, pledging to halve it by 2013 is hardly ambitious. The Washington Post has a great graphic which helps put President Obama’s budget deficits in context of President Bush’s.

What’s driving Obama’s unprecedented massive deficits? Spending. Riedl details:

President Bush expanded the federal budget by a historic $700 billion through 2008.

President Obama would add another $1 trillion.

President Bush began a string of expensive finan­cial bailouts. President Obama is accelerating that course.

President Bush created a Medicare drug entitle­ment that will cost an estimated $800 billion in its first decade. President Obama has proposed a $634 billion down payment on a new govern­ment health care fund.

President Bush increased federal education spending 58 percent faster than inflation. Presi­dent Obama would double it.

President Bush became the first President to spend 3 percent of GDP on federal antipoverty programs. President Obama has already in­creased this spending by 20 percent.

President Bush tilted the income tax burden more toward upper-income taxpayers. President Obama would continue that trend.

President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt), President Obama’s budget would add $4.9 trillion in public debt from the beginning of 2010 through 2016.

UPDATE: Many Obama defenders in the comments are claiming that the numbers above do not include spending on Iraq and Afghanistan during the Bush years. They most certainly do. While Bush did fund the wars through emergency supplementals (not the regular budget process), that spending did not simply vanish. It is included in the numbers above. Also, some Obama defenders are claiming the graphic above represents biased Heritage Foundation numbers. While we stand behind the numbers we put out 100%, the numbers, and the graphic itself, above are from the Washington Post. We originally left out the link to WaPo. It has been now been added.

CLARIFICATION: Of course, this Washington Post graphic does not perfectly delineate budget surpluses and deficits by administration. President Bush took office in January 2001, and therefore played a lead role in crafting the FY 2002-2008 budgets. Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for the FY 2009 budget deficit that overlaps their administrations, before President Obama assumes full budgetary responsibility beginning in FY 2010. Overall, President Obama’s budget would add twice as much debt as President Bush over the same number of years.

MasterOfPuppets
11-19-2009, 11:06 PM
what did bush leave us....obama. :coffee: obama is not the reason mccain lost...bush is...

KeiselPower99
11-19-2009, 11:54 PM
Both of them have our country going down the crapper. And by the way Obama still hasnt made a decision on Afghanistan. Almost 4 months later.

Bng_Hevn
11-20-2009, 12:45 PM
It simply amazes me how ignorant some people are these days. To say Bush is responsible for the mortgage crisis is absolutely INSANE. The mortgage crisis is at the center of the economic woes.

Without 9/11 Bush would be seen in a totally different light. I can only imagine how bad off we'd be if Clinton or Obama were president at that time.

You can knock Bush all you want, bottom line is there is NO democrat that could have handled the disasters Bush had to deal with. 9/11 happened just 10 months after he took office. Can you see Obama being able to handle such a catastrophe at this time of his term?

Also, liberals talk about the surplus Clinton left. How did he come by that surplus? Reducing the military played a large part of that. Reducing the military weakens the country, but liberals are too damn blind to understand that the great "utopia" simply doesn't exist.

Another thing, when you talk about money spent, be specific on where the money went and why. There are two hard-core liberals here at work and I've gotten to the point where I ask for specifics, which of course they can never give because they always talk out of their arses.

Steelboy84
11-20-2009, 01:22 PM
:doh::doh:

you really are clueless. If I were you I'd forget about bu...bu...bu...bush and look at what your messiah is doing to this country now! What bush did is gonna pail in comparison.

Oh boy, here comes the irrelevant conservative anger!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Steelboy84
11-20-2009, 01:22 PM
Ahem. :tap:

http://doctorbulldog.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/obama_muslim_garb.jpg

http://static.guim.co.uk/Guardian/world/gallery/2008/feb/26/2/GD6382720@epa01266971-(FILE)-A--3508.jpg





I think you'd better stop slurping that Obaaaaaaama Kool Aid and open your eyes.


http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/

President Barack Obama has repeatedly claimed that his budget would cut the deficit by half by the end of his term. But as Heritage analyst Brian Riedl has pointed out, given that Obama has already helped quadruple the deficit with his stimulus package, pledging to halve it by 2013 is hardly ambitious. The Washington Post has a great graphic which helps put President Obama’s budget deficits in context of President Bush’s.

What’s driving Obama’s unprecedented massive deficits? Spending. Riedl details:

President Bush expanded the federal budget by a historic $700 billion through 2008.

President Obama would add another $1 trillion.

President Bush began a string of expensive finan­cial bailouts. President Obama is accelerating that course.

President Bush created a Medicare drug entitle­ment that will cost an estimated $800 billion in its first decade. President Obama has proposed a $634 billion down payment on a new govern­ment health care fund.

President Bush increased federal education spending 58 percent faster than inflation. Presi­dent Obama would double it.

President Bush became the first President to spend 3 percent of GDP on federal antipoverty programs. President Obama has already in­creased this spending by 20 percent.

President Bush tilted the income tax burden more toward upper-income taxpayers. President Obama would continue that trend.

President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt), President Obama’s budget would add $4.9 trillion in public debt from the beginning of 2010 through 2016.

UPDATE: Many Obama defenders in the comments are claiming that the numbers above do not include spending on Iraq and Afghanistan during the Bush years. They most certainly do. While Bush did fund the wars through emergency supplementals (not the regular budget process), that spending did not simply vanish. It is included in the numbers above. Also, some Obama defenders are claiming the graphic above represents biased Heritage Foundation numbers. While we stand behind the numbers we put out 100%, the numbers, and the graphic itself, above are from the Washington Post. We originally left out the link to WaPo. It has been now been added.

CLARIFICATION: Of course, this Washington Post graphic does not perfectly delineate budget surpluses and deficits by administration. President Bush took office in January 2001, and therefore played a lead role in crafting the FY 2002-2008 budgets. Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for the FY 2009 budget deficit that overlaps their administrations, before President Obama assumes full budgetary responsibility beginning in FY 2010. Overall, President Obama’s budget would add twice as much debt as President Bush over the same number of years.


You mean the way you all slurped Bush's koolaid?

:coffee:

MACH1
11-20-2009, 01:50 PM
You mean the way you all slurped Bush's koolaid?

:coffee:

http://afrocityblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/sucka1.jpg

Steelboy84
11-20-2009, 01:52 PM
http://afrocityblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/sucka1.jpg

lol

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26349526

:thumbsup:

MACH1
11-20-2009, 01:57 PM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_total_approval_graphics/november_2009/obama_total_approval_november_1_2009/262130-1-eng-US/obama_total_approval_november_1_2009.jpg

http://www.therightperspective.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/obama_kool_aid.jpg

Steelboy84
11-20-2009, 02:00 PM
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_total_approval_graphics/november_2009/obama_total_approval_november_1_2009/262130-1-eng-US/obama_total_approval_november_1_2009.jpg

http://www.therightperspective.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/obama_kool_aid.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvgqRKYapU8

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

SteelCityMom
11-20-2009, 02:10 PM
I'm still convinced this nation hasn't seen a decent president since Coolidge (who had a talent for effectively doing nothing: "This active inactivity suits the mood and certain of the needs of the country admirably. It suits all the business interests which want to be let alone.... And it suits all those who have become convinced that government in this country has become dangerously complicated and top-heavy....").

Both Bush and Obama can suck a nut IMO.

revefsreleets
11-20-2009, 02:50 PM
I'm so tired of all this.....(yawn)...

43Hitman
11-20-2009, 03:24 PM
All I can say is actions speak louder than words. All I have seen him do is raise the debt, ignore our troops, and tour the world. This doesn't even count the ramming of this health care and cap and trade bills down our collective throats despite the fact that the majority of American don't want the crap.

tony hipchest
11-20-2009, 10:20 PM
I'm so tired of all this.....(yawn)...

:rolleyes: oh really?

since when?

http://forums.steelersfever.com/search.php?searchid=247139&pp=30

:rofl:


FACT-

obama has been president for less than 300 days, yet you have started almost 200 anti obama/democrat threads.

:toofunny::toofunny::toofunny:

M1JAM
11-20-2009, 10:51 PM
All I can say is actions speak louder than words. All I have seen him do is raise the debt, ignore our troops, and tour the world. This doesn't even count the ramming of this health care and cap and trade bills down our collective throats despite the fact that the majority of American don't want the crap.



YOU DONT GIVE A CRAP WHAT OBAMA DOES. you hated him before he took the oath of office. You didn't vote for him. You've never voted for a democrat. You're a sore loser because your old white guy McCain got his ass kicked by a man of color and you can't get over it. The dems wont pander to your type because no matter what the DEms do you still wont support them. So they might as well just ignore you and Limbaugh and Beck. . GET OVER IT.

M1JAM
11-20-2009, 10:58 PM
All I can say is actions speak louder than words. All I have seen him do is raise the debt, ignore our troops, and tour the world. This doesn't even count the ramming of this health care and cap and trade bills down our collective throats despite the fact that the majority of American don't want the crap.





Name ONE policy, program or idea put forth by any mainstream Democrat that you support. Then convince me that you would suport SOMEthing, ANYthing that Obama did.

cubanstogie
11-20-2009, 11:43 PM
Name ONE policy, program or idea put forth by any mainstream Democrat that you support. Then convince me that you would suport SOMEthing, ANYthing that Obama did.

The question should be what has Obama done worth supporting, not hypothetical BS. Its one thing to drink kool aid and hope for change. Its another to actually think his foreign policy, heath care, and spending has been good for the country.

MACH1
11-21-2009, 12:04 AM
The question should be what has Obama done worth supporting, not hypothetical BS. Its one thing to drink kool aid and hope for change. Its another to actually think his foreign policy, heath care, and spending has been good for the country.

He's adopted most of Bush's policies.

Change you can believe in. :jerkit:

tony hipchest
11-21-2009, 12:08 AM
He's adopted most of Bush's policies.
:is that why you are so glad?

MACH1
11-21-2009, 12:16 AM
is that why you are so glad?

Oh yeah, I can't wait for my "free" health care, taxes out the wazoo, cap n trade, being a business owner with massive taxes, oh and did I mention "free" health care. :doh:

Makes me so happy I could shit.

MasterOfPuppets
11-21-2009, 12:26 AM
He's adopted most of Bush's policies.

Change you can believe in. :jerkit:
you mean the policies that never was worth bitchin about on here before ? those policies ? :noidea:
where were all the bush policy bashing threads from you guys then ?

MACH1
11-21-2009, 12:31 AM
you mean the policies that never was worth bitchin about on here before ? those policies ? :noidea:

Yeah, you know the ones that were sooo bad that he campaigned to change. Yet turns around and adopts them. Those ones?

tony hipchest
11-21-2009, 12:35 AM
Oh yeah, I can't wait for my "free" health care, taxes out the wazoo, cap n trade, being a business owner with massive taxes, oh and did I mention "free" health care. :doh:

Makes me so happy I could shit.

so are you admitting that most of bush's policies sucked?

MasterOfPuppets
11-21-2009, 12:35 AM
Yeah, you know the ones that were sooo bad that he campaigned to change. Yet turns around and adopts them. Those ones?

did you guys start a couple hundred threads while bush was in office, voicing your displeasure over said failed policies ? :popcorn:

MACH1
11-21-2009, 12:38 AM
:stirthepot:

tony hipchest
11-21-2009, 01:13 AM
:stirthepot:still stirring that bush kool-aid i see.

that cheney sugar [salt] settles to the bottom rather quickly.... :wink02:

augustashark
11-21-2009, 02:06 AM
YOU DONT GIVE A CRAP WHAT OBAMA DOES. you hated him before he took the oath of office. You didn't vote for him. You've never voted for a democrat. You're a sore loser because your old white guy McCain got his ass kicked by a man of color and you can't get over it. The dems wont pander to your type because no matter what the DEms do you still wont support them. So they might as well just ignore you and Limbaugh and Beck. . GET OVER IT.

I've been on this board for 4 years and this is the biggest joke of a post. Do you really think that R's pander to your type? :toofunny:

"man of color" are you for real? Listen jr, maybe you should stick to threads that are more your speed, like "How to watch porn with friends" and "limo rides are for ladies".:wave:

GoSlash27
11-21-2009, 07:16 AM
did you guys start a couple hundred threads while bush was in office, voicing your displeasure over said failed policies ?

I see a lot more posts here from the Obama supporters attacking the dissenters than posts defending Obama's policies. Times change, but apparently not too much.

Your question inspired me to review my own posts on this subject. The oldest one available (http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=31950) shows the same situation as this one with the roles reversed. It would do everybody here some good to review that thread and ponder how their attitudes have shifted so completely in just one year. :chuckle:

revefsreleets
11-21-2009, 08:15 AM
:rolleyes: oh really?

since when?

http://forums.steelersfever.com/search.php?searchid=247139&pp=30

:rofl:


FACT-

obama has been president for less than 300 days, yet you have started almost 200 anti obama/democrat threads.

:toofunny::toofunny::toofunny:

It's uber creepy watching you follow me around and dig up past posts, count my posts, stalk me, etc, etc...

Anyway, you're probably right...I'm sure I have started a lot of threads about Obama...he's done a pretty lousy job and I'm definitely going to call attention to that....

Steelboy84
11-21-2009, 12:47 PM
so are you admitting that most of bush's policies sucked?

Nah, you won't get them to say it.

Bush spending=good.

Obama spending= putting my grandkids future at risk! :blah: :blah: :blah:

MACH1
11-21-2009, 01:01 PM
Nah, you won't get them to say it.

Bush spending=good.

Obama spending= putting my grandkids future at risk! :blah: :blah: :blah:

Now this has to be about the most idiotic post yet!

Gulp, gulp, gulp that kool aid.

43Hitman
11-21-2009, 01:45 PM
YOU DONT GIVE A CRAP WHAT OBAMA DOES. you hated him before he took the oath of office. You didn't vote for him. You've never voted for a democrat. You're a sore loser because your old white guy McCain got his ass kicked by a man of color and you can't get over it. The dems wont pander to your type because no matter what the DEms do you still wont support them. So they might as well just ignore you and Limbaugh and Beck. . GET OVER IT.

Actually I do give a crap what Obama does, because it affects me and my child. I will call attention to that and I will voice my dissent. I don't hate, that's a strong word. I do however, completely and wholeheartedly, dislike his policies and this notion that taxing this shit out of everyone to pay for things we as a nation have no business doing. I also dislike the fact that he said he would heed the advice of his military generals when it comes to Afghanistan, but basically tells his general to get bent when he requests more troops. The guy is unqualified and it shows daily, if you would open your eyes you would see this. I don't expect you to though, you'll probably come back with some neo con reference and more talking points...The thing is though, whatever you say will not change my mind. I have done enough research on the guy to know he is a fraud, and does not mean what he says. Except the part when he said that cap and trade would pretty much break most of Americans. Oh and the part when he said that spreading the wealth was good for everyone....Those things he very well intends on doing.

revefsreleets
11-21-2009, 03:51 PM
Nah, you won't get them to say it.

Bush spending=good.

Obama spending= putting my grandkids future at risk! :blah: :blah: :blah:

Reading comprehension is fundamental.

I have SAID THIS...over and over and over. Bush's spending about $400 billion he didn't have was BAD!

But Obama spending a couple TRILLION he doesn't have is FAR worse. It took Bush 8 years to spend that 400 bil, and Obama only needed 10 months to waste HIS 2 TRILLION...

tony hipchest
11-21-2009, 05:25 PM
It's uber creepy watching you follow me around and dig up past posts, count my posts, stalk me, etc, etc...

Anyway, you're probably right...I'm sure I have started a lot of threads about Obama...he's done a pretty lousy job and I'm definitely going to call attention to that....dont flatter yourself.

you have done a lousy job posting, and i'm definitely gonna call attention to that....

steelersfever has a nice little feature called Search .

its real easy to use and takes about 10 seconds. type in your name, click "threads started", scroll down to locker room, and voila!

217 to be exact. a quick scroll down 2 pages shows that all but about 20 have obama in the title or are obama related. :thumbsup:

that simply equates to a new obama thread (from just you), about every one and a half day. :applaudit:

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q23/shortyshane_2006/cowbell.jpg

... just what this board needs... :rolleyes:

Preacher
11-21-2009, 05:42 PM
Reading comprehension is fundamental.

I have SAID THIS...over and over and over. Bush's spending about $400 billion he didn't have was BAD!

But Obama spending a couple TRILLION he doesn't have is FAR worse. It took Bush 8 years to spend that 400 bil, and Obama only needed 10 months to waste HIS 2 TRILLION...

dont flatter yourself.

you have done a lousy job posting, and i'm definitely gonna call attention to that....

steelersfever has a nice little feature called Search .

its real easy to use and takes about 10 seconds. type in your name, click "threads started", scroll down to locker room, and voila!

217 to be exact. a quick scroll down 2 pages shows that all but about 20 have obama in the title or are obama related. :thumbsup:

that simply equates to a new obama thread (from just you), about every one and a half day. :applaudit:



... just what this board needs... :rolleyes:



Here we go again... http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/peeing-statue.jpg

SteelCityMom
11-21-2009, 05:59 PM
Here we go again... http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/peeing-statue.jpg


ROFLMFAO!!!

:popcorn:

tony hipchest
11-21-2009, 06:04 PM
:sofunny: nice work with the cherubs preach...!

(now quit "following" me) :nervous:

Steelboy84
11-21-2009, 07:28 PM
Now this has to be about the most idiotic post yet!

Gulp, gulp, gulp that kool aid.

Oh great, stalker boy is back. You sure do know how to follow people around.

Steelboy84
11-21-2009, 07:31 PM
Now this has to be about the most idiotic post yet!

Gulp, gulp, gulp that kool aid.

There are more than enough over-the-hill men on the 10 o clock news at night. We don't need more.

:chuckle:

HometownGal
11-21-2009, 07:36 PM
Then convince me that you would suport SOMEthing, ANYthing that Obama did.

Whelp - I WOULD support his resignation before he screws this country up even more. :coffee:

P.S. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

MasterOfPuppets
11-21-2009, 08:17 PM
dont flatter yourself.

you have done a lousy job posting, and i'm definitely gonna call attention to that....

steelersfever has a nice little feature called Search .

its real easy to use and takes about 10 seconds. type in your name, click "threads started", scroll down to locker room, and voila!

217 to be exact. a quick scroll down 2 pages shows that all but about 20 have obama in the title or are obama related. :thumbsup:

that simply equates to a new obama thread (from just you), about every one and a half day. :applaudit:

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q23/shortyshane_2006/cowbell.jpg

... just what this board needs... :rolleyes:
did you by chance see any bush failed policy bashing threads he started on your trip to the, "no spin zone" ??? he points out quite often how obama has adopted said policies, so i'm sure he must have been all over the creater of those policies from the get go .....right ?

MACH1
11-21-2009, 08:25 PM
Oh great, stalker boy is back. You sure do know how to follow people around.

Don't flatter yourself.

By the way which one are you.

http://www.gburgforum.com/SpecialFrontpgaes/April/herd-of-sheep.jpg

HometownGal
11-21-2009, 08:31 PM
Oh great, stalker boy is back. You sure do know how to follow people around.

And you sure know how to :pw:

You really need to grow up, sir. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. :coffee:

silver & black
11-22-2009, 09:17 AM
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/andymiesha/AwJeezNotThisSheetAgain1.jpg

Dubya sucked. Yes he did.
Obama sucks. Yes he does.

^^^ This.

silver & black
11-22-2009, 09:21 AM
Oh boy, here comes the irrelevant conservative anger!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Kinda like the irrelevant liberal anger we had to endure for 8 years, huh? :wink02:

silver & black
11-22-2009, 09:36 AM
Nah, you won't get them to say it.

Bush spending=good.

Obama spending= putting my grandkids future at risk! :blah: :blah: :blah:

Bush spending =not good.

Obama spending=not good.

Politician spending=not good (generally)

We the People=forgotten and cast aside in the political gristmill that only cares about power.

Change=something this country and it's citizens are not yet ready for (neither party will change a damn thing).

revefsreleets
11-22-2009, 01:39 PM
did you by chance see any bush failed policy bashing threads he started on your trip to the, "no spin zone" ??? he points out quite often how obama has adopted said policies, so i'm sure he must have been all over the creater of those policies from the get go .....right ?

The easiest thing possible to do is simply be a nihilist and talk about how everyone sucks...then you can sit back and take potshots at anyone you like who disagrees with you.

I'm a registered Republican. I am going to support my party more often than not. My POINT is that, unlike many lemmings who post on this board, I will also criticize members of my party when they do irresponsible things. While Bush wandered off the fiscally conservative path quite a little bit, Obama is 10,000 miles off it and getting further away by the day. I won't apologize for criticizing a rank amateur who is destroying this Country from the inside out...

As far as this "pissing contest" goes, I'm putting Tony on ignore...his political posts have gotten so ridiculously partisan in toeing the D party line they have practically become parodies of REAL political posts...I can just go read the Democratic party platform if I need his view on anything...other than that, what else am I missing? Him telling me how wrong I am and how right he is over and over again, regardless of what the reality is? Missing that garbage is no bread off my table...

Aussie_steeler
11-23-2009, 04:10 AM
I have been on this board for two years and I keep seeing continual references by both sides referencing each as Kool Aid drinkers.

Bush and Obama have both left me with some giant unanswered questions.


1. What flavour Kool Aid did bush supporters drink?

2. Is Bush Kool Aid a different flavour to Obama Kool Aid?

3. Or do you all drink the same flavour Kool Aid?

4. If you like a different flavour of Kool Aid to the party preferred Kool Aid does that mean that you are not officially towing the party line Kool Aid line?

5. What is the recommended daily dietary intake for Kool Aid? Does each parties recommended daily intake vary? If so is one parties Kool AId more harmful to your health than the other parties?

Just some general Kool Aid questions now that both could answer


6. Is mixing political Kool Aid and sporting Kool Aid considered to be mixing your drinks? ( do you get drunk quicker if you do that?)

7. When buying Kool Aid does it get packaged in a brown paper bag so that you dont get harrassed when you are walking home in public? Are some people embarrassed by the Kool Aid that they drink?

8. What is the legal age for drinking Kool Aid? Do parents start slipping some Kool Aid into their kids just to get them used to the taste?


I have so many more Kool Aid questions, but I will keep them for another day. Thank you Bush and Obama for my Kool Aid dilemma.

Preacher
11-23-2009, 06:47 AM
I have been on this board for two years and I keep seeing continual references by both sides referencing each as Kool Aid drinkers.

Bush and Obama have both left me with some giant unanswered questions.


1. What flavour Kool Aid did bush supporters drink?

2. Is Bush Kool Aid a different flavour to Obama Kool Aid?

3. Or do you all drink the same flavour Kool Aid?

4. If you like a different flavour of Kool Aid to the party preferred Kool Aid does that mean that you are not officially towing the party line Kool Aid line?

5. What is the recommended daily dietary intake for Kool Aid? Does each parties recommended daily intake vary? If so is one parties Kool AId more harmful to your health than the other parties?

Just some general Kool Aid questions now that both could answer


6. Is mixing political Kool Aid and sporting Kool Aid considered to be mixing your drinks? ( do you get drunk quicker if you do that?)

7. When buying Kool Aid does it get packaged in a brown paper bag so that you dont get harrassed when you are walking home in public? Are some people embarrassed by the Kool Aid that they drink?

8. What is the legal age for drinking Kool Aid? Do parents start slipping some Kool Aid into their kids just to get them used to the taste?


I have so many more Kool Aid questions, but I will keep them for another day. Thank you Bush and Obama for my Kool Aid dilemma.

:rofl: Methinks this post is deserving of its own thread.

theplatypus
11-23-2009, 07:09 AM
I have been on this board for two years and I keep seeing continual references by both sides referencing each as Kool Aid drinkers.

Bush and Obama have both left me with some giant unanswered questions.


1. What flavour Kool Aid did bush supporters drink?
Rasberry

2. Is Bush Kool Aid a different flavour to Obama Kool Aid?
Yes

3. Or do you all drink the same flavour Kool Aid?
Rasberry and Blueberry respectively

4. If you like a different flavour of Kool Aid to the party preferred Kool Aid does that mean that you are not officially towing the party line Kool Aid line?
That's a stance used by some to deflect and used by others to show their rebellious nature.
5. What is the recommended daily dietary intake for Kool Aid? Does each parties recommended daily intake vary? If so is one parties Kool AId more harmful to your health than the other parties?

It's generally acknowledged that a continuous dose throughout the day is best. Not to my knowledge. x2

Just some general Kool Aid questions now that both could answer


6. Is mixing political Kool Aid and sporting Kool Aid considered to be mixing your drinks? ( do you get drunk quicker if you do that?)
Think of it along the lines of mixing redbull& vodka, heroin & cocaine etc.

7. When buying Kool Aid does it get packaged in a brown paper bag so that you dont get harrassed when you are walking home in public? Are some people embarrassed by the Kool Aid that they drink?
You're given the option of paper or plastic.

8. What is the legal age for drinking Kool Aid? Do parents start slipping some Kool Aid into their kids just to get them used to the taste?

I read a study showing that it can be added to breast milk without fear. I've heard that some companies have started including small amounts in baby formula as well.


I have so many more Kool Aid questions, but I will keep them for another day. Thank you Bush and Obama for my Kool Aid dilemma.

Please feel free to ask

Aussie_steeler
11-23-2009, 03:15 PM
Please feel free to ask

:thumbsup: Thanks for the enlightenment. Raspberry and Blueberry - Interesting

I know it is only a crash course in Kool Aid 101 but I think I am getting it ( but only just)

I will definitely ask more ( and yes preach it could merit its own thread)

Currently I am a fence sitter but one day I may want to jump down and sample this Kool Aid you Americans so fondly speak of.:drink:

theplatypus
11-23-2009, 03:39 PM
:thumbsup: Thanks for the enlightenment. Raspberry and Blueberry - Interesting

I know it is only a crash course in Kool Aid 101 but I think I am getting it ( but only just)

I will definitely ask more ( and yes preach it could merit its own thread)

Currently I am a fence sitter but one day I may want to jump down and sample this Kool Aid you Americans so fondly speak of.:drink:

Personally I would stick to beer. It tastes better and goes with everything.

Steelboy84
11-23-2009, 03:53 PM
And you sure know how to :pw:

You really need to grow up, sir. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. :coffee:

Grow up? lol

Because I don't agree with others? Perhaps I should just agree with everyone else and make them feel better.

Just hope I'm not bitter in my old age too. :thumbsup:

MasterOfPuppets
11-23-2009, 04:10 PM
Grow up? lol

Because I don't agree with others? Perhaps I should just agree with everyone else and make them feel better.

Just hope I'm not bitter in my old age too. :thumbsup:
yes you must conform to the board.. now repeat after me..:hypno: ...elephants are good .:hypno: ...donkeys are evil...:hypno: ..the steelers FO and coaches are infalible...:hypno:

MACH1
11-23-2009, 05:20 PM
yes you must conform to the board.. now repeat after me..:hypno: ...elephants are good .:hypno: ...donkeys are evil...:hypno: ..the steelers FO and coaches are infalible...:hypno:

Translation-

Baaaaa:hypno: Baaaaaa:hypno: Obaaama:hypno: Baaaaa:hypno: Baaaaaa:hypno:








:wink02:

SCSTILLER
11-24-2009, 07:29 AM
Thanks Guys! Those stupid twirly thingies just gave me a seizure

fansince'76
11-24-2009, 08:34 AM
Grow up? lol

Because I don't agree with others?

No, more like you have no clue on how to debate. Multiposting last year's presidential election returns as a reply to everything you don't agree with isn't debating. :coffee:

fansince'76
11-24-2009, 08:44 AM
yes you must conform to the board.. now repeat after me....:hypno: ..the steelers FO and coaches are infalible...:hypno:

Really? That's the "official SF position?" Funny, but from perusing the threads around here I could swear it was that the FO and coaches are completely clueless and anyone here could do a better job. :noidea:

Texasteel
11-24-2009, 09:26 AM
I have been on this board for two years and I keep seeing continual references by both sides referencing each as Kool Aid drinkers.

Bush and Obama have both left me with some giant unanswered questions.


1. What flavour Kool Aid did bush supporters drink?

2. Is Bush Kool Aid a different flavour to Obama Kool Aid?

3. Or do you all drink the same flavour Kool Aid?

4. If you like a different flavour of Kool Aid to the party preferred Kool Aid does that mean that you are not officially towing the party line Kool Aid line?

5. What is the recommended daily dietary intake for Kool Aid? Does each parties recommended daily intake vary? If so is one parties Kool AId more harmful to your health than the other parties?

Just some general Kool Aid questions now that both could answer


6. Is mixing political Kool Aid and sporting Kool Aid considered to be mixing your drinks? ( do you get drunk quicker if you do that?)

7. When buying Kool Aid does it get packaged in a brown paper bag so that you dont get harrassed when you are walking home in public? Are some people embarrassed by the Kool Aid that they drink?

8. What is the legal age for drinking Kool Aid? Do parents start slipping some Kool Aid into their kids just to get them used to the taste?


I have so many more Kool Aid questions, but I will keep them for another day. Thank you Bush and Obama for my Kool Aid dilemma.


1. Personally I like grape, but will accept lemon-lime.

2. Never tasted Obama's, but Bushes started tasting a little bitter at the end.

3. Don't know about the Dem's, but the Rep's are multi-cultured, and will accept all flavors, though some frown on some flavors.

4. The party lines are so blurred and mangled these days that it really doesn't make much difference.

5. Both are designed to do the same thing. Put the money in the pockets of the people that know how to us it, the politicians. While keeping it away from the common people that would waste it on food and clothing, and such.

6. The mixing of political and sports Kool-Aid is forbidden. It often sours the sports Kool-Air and will leave a awful after taste in you mouth.

7. Everyone should carry their Kool-Aid with pride, but be prepared to protect yourself. The Rep's will often us a baseball bat, most Dem's us a pink feather duster and a picture of Barnie Franks.

8. There is no age limit, but should be used on the very young for medicinal purposes only.

I hope this will help my Australian friend. Also when visiting this country it is often best to drink Coke.:wink02:

Steel Duck
11-24-2009, 02:40 PM
I think it's pretty ridiculous to expect Obama to fix in one year what George Bush took 8 years to destroy!!!!!!!!!!

43Hitman
11-24-2009, 02:52 PM
Ooh, he's gonna fix it all right....:coffee:

revefsreleets
11-24-2009, 03:07 PM
Let's see...if Obama is "fixing" what GWB "destroyed", Obama is doing the equivalent of taking a car that had a dent in the quarter panel from a fender-bender and dropping it off the side of a 300 ft cliff.

That IS one way to "fix" a problem, I guess.

xfl2001fan
11-24-2009, 03:08 PM
I think it's pretty ridiculous to expect Obama to fix in one year what George Bush took 8 years to destroy!!!!!!!!!!

Please explain how "his ideas and/or plans" are actually going to "fix" anything...

MACH1
11-24-2009, 03:18 PM
I think it's pretty ridiculous to expect Obama to fix in one year what George Bush took 8 years to destroy!!!!!!!!!!

uh yeah, it's been my dream to give up 60% of my income to taxes. :doh: woohooo can't wait for that fix.

SCSTILLER
11-24-2009, 03:36 PM
uh yeah, it's been my dream to give up 60% of my income to taxes. :doh: woohooo can't wait for that fix.

C'mon MACH, you know it's patriotic to pay more taxes :doh:

MACH1
11-24-2009, 05:19 PM
C'mon MACH, you know it's patriotic to pay more taxes :doh:

And making sure I have the proper amount of air in my tires will save the world.

Aussie_steeler
11-25-2009, 05:17 AM
1. Personally I like grape, but will accept lemon-lime.

2. Never tasted Obama's, but Bushes started tasting a little bitter at the end.

3. Don't know about the Dem's, but the Rep's are multi-cultured, and will accept all flavors, though some frown on some flavors.

4. The party lines are so blurred and mangled these days that it really doesn't make much difference.

5. Both are designed to do the same thing. Put the money in the pockets of the people that know how to us it, the politicians. While keeping it away from the common people that would waste it on food and clothing, and such.

6. The mixing of political and sports Kool-Aid is forbidden. It often sours the sports Kool-Air and will leave a awful after taste in you mouth.

7. Everyone should carry their Kool-Aid with pride, but be prepared to protect yourself. The Rep's will often us a baseball bat, most Dem's us a pink feather duster and a picture of Barnie Franks.

8. There is no age limit, but should be used on the very young for medicinal purposes only.

I hope this will help my Australian friend. Also when visiting this country it is often best to drink Coke.:wink02:

Thanks Tex. I am thinking that I should do some research and see if Kool Aid has an equivalent in Australia. If not, it might be the perfect product to market in our country. It could provide some quenching to the political thirsts of the australian political observers.

Also I didnt realise Kool Aid had an expiration date but according to the old, discontinued line of bush flavoured Kool Aid it does look like it spoils with age. ( I feel like a giggling teenager when I say " Bush Kool Aid". It sounds dirty, something like a medicinal aid an overworked redlight district streetwalker might use after a hot night.)


Does that mean if I am going to consume the Obama Kool Aid that I should consume copious quantities early on and reduce my intake as time goes on to prepare for both spoilage and the imminent change to a new and improved flavour?

And Tex - the aussie cool aid usually incorporates coke and a favourite spirit from your homeland. ( see link)

http://shop.jimbeam.com.au/Images/Products/JimBeam_Retouched_large.jpg

Bng_Hevn
12-12-2009, 11:12 PM
Here is a link to an article written in '99 that basically predicts the current mortgage crisis.

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/30/business/fannie-mae-eases-credit-to-aid-mortgage-lending.html

But, it is Bush's fault. Riiiiiiiiiiggghhhhtttt.

revefsreleets
12-14-2009, 12:52 PM
Here is a link to an article written in '99 that basically predicts the current mortgage crisis.

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/30/business/fannie-mae-eases-credit-to-aid-mortgage-lending.html

But, it is Bush's fault. Riiiiiiiiiiggghhhhtttt.

Um......skip all the way back to '91 and blame Bush I?

GBMelBlount
12-14-2009, 01:12 PM
Bush left us with over a half a trillion $ budget deficit (from a $128 billion budget surplus). Nearly $11 trillion in national debt, over 4,000 troops dead for a catastrophic mistake, a failing economy, failing housing market, a declining stock market, a poorly funded education system, and even more hatred from the Muslim world. Not to mention failing to provide better security on our borders.

But the best thing he left us was....................................ALONE!

:tt03: :tt03: :thumbsup: :drink: :applaudit:

Interesting you mention the importance of leaving individuals alone.....that is the belief of most conservatives and all libertarians....

Bush's spending hurt our country, but Obama's WILL be the end of this country as we know it.

You're myopic hatred for Bush is, unfortunately, causing you to miss the big picture, friend. :drink:

Our economy has always been cyclical and would have eventually rebounded at some point. Unfortunately the out of control new spending and debt created under Obama is NOT cyclical nor sustainable and WILL ruin this country. It is arguably just a matter of WHEN we collapse, unfortunately. In fact, it makes your arguments about prior debt and the housing market appear quite trivial in comparison.....