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Hawkfan
01-24-2006, 01:16 PM
Now the Seahawks are underdogs to the AFC's sixth seed. Considering the adversity the Seahawks have been through, they will feel right at home in Super Bowl XL.

Man_Of_Steel
01-24-2006, 01:29 PM
I disagree. Hasselbeck is not a mobile QB, he will have relentless pressure the entire game. Matt Hasselbeck, please meet Troy Polamalu and Joey Porter. Oh, and you want to talk about adversity? Try beating the Broncos, Colts, and the Bungles on the road in the playoffs when NOBODY gave them a chance.

MNsteelers
01-24-2006, 01:32 PM
Ummm...excuse me, but have you bothered to watch the last three Steelers games this season? Are you telling us that a team that beat Cincinnati, Indianapolis and Denver on the road shouldn't be favored over a team that just beat Washington and Carolina? But let's keep our eyes on the road here; the "favorite" is determined by who is betting on which team. The majority of people feel Pittsburgh is the better team. I have the utmost respect for Seattle and its coaches and players, but at this point in the season, I find it very difficult for you to argue that because Pittsburgh was the sixth seed in a CONSIDERABLY stronger conference they shouldn't be favored to beat a team because they were the No. 1 seed.

Come up with a decent argument or go make other people stupider somewhere else. Thanks, guy!

benberger
01-24-2006, 01:43 PM
steelers should be underdogs, but who really cares.....if you need extra motivation now, you dont belong in this game......to be a champion or not to be....that is the question.

Hawkfan
01-24-2006, 01:46 PM
I agree you have a great team. My thoughts are also from watching this team, and what they have done to quality NFL opponents. Everyone wants to say how the NFC is so weak. Its still the NFL I don't care how you slice it. The best football players and coaches in the world, a win is a win. Steelers were my pick at the begin of the year to represent the AFC there a great team and a great organization. I love Bettis and you fans are crazy, Its a great football town. I know the reason the Hawks are underdogs is a east coast bias thing. We are located out in the great NW and no one even cares about what goes on out here. I like the Hawks chances in a close game 27 to 24.

ZornToLargent
01-24-2006, 01:57 PM
I know the reason the Hawks are underdogs is a east coast bias thing. We are located out in the great NW and no one even cares about what goes on out here. I like the Hawks chances in a close game 27 to 24.
I agree with that 100%. Nobody still has a clue as to what the Seahawks are made of....mainly because they don't want to pay attention. They have been discounting the Seahawks all season long....the media...the fans (outside of the NW)...the other teams. Everybody said how tough the Redskins and Panthers were....how road tested and battle tested they were and how bad we would fall to a tough team like them. How the Seahawks with our whimpy schedule is no contender. Well f*ck that! We are the number #1 seed....we are the better team...and soon....when the Bus is limping off the field without a ring....the whole world will know how for real we are.

Ambridge
01-24-2006, 02:14 PM
I agree with that 100%. Nobody still has a clue as to what the Seahawks are made of....mainly because they don't want to pay attention. They have been discounting the Seahawks all season long....the media...the fans (outside of the NW)...the other teams. Everybody said how tough the Redskins and Panthers were....how road tested and battle tested they were and how bad we would fall to a tough team like them. How the Seahawks with our whimpy schedule is no contender. Well f*ck that! We are the number #1 seed....we are the better team...and soon....when the Bus is limping off the field without a ring....the whole world will know how for real we are.


Don't puff out your chest too far Mr. Blowhard.....you'll set yourself on fire with all of that hot air.

You might want to temper all that cheerleading with the fact that the Seahawks got two playoff wins against two teams that had injuries to key players.

MNsteelers
01-24-2006, 02:20 PM
Ok, wait, I can understand your argument and satisfaction with beating Carolina, but who in their right mind felt strong about Washington's chances?? I'm sorry, but no, that is not a great football team. But good point, the NFL is the NFL, but seriously, you cannot compare the 4,5,and 6 seeds in the NFC to those in the AFC. Just not a strong argument. I mean, c'mon, Jacksonville was 12-4 for cripessake!

Your problem is you just don't want to ACCEPT that everyone HAS heard of you guys, and know quite a lot about them. Can someone else in this post please tell me if Pittsburgh was on the cover of ESPN: The Magazine this year? And was Seattle? I believe they were...You guys seriously need to get over yourselves. You get plenty of cred, love, etc. It's there, you just hate the fact you're stuck in the land of coffee, rain and woods, and don't have an incredibly exciting team. That's why you don't get the attention compared to the Colts, for example.

Either way, the media's opinion doesn't matter; you're a No. 1 seed, and therefore, SHOULD be in the Super Bowl. You're not worried about a little 6 seed, are you?

ZornToLargent
01-24-2006, 02:21 PM
Don't puff out your chest too far Mr. Blowhard.....you'll set yourself on fire with all of that hot air.

You might want to temper all that cheerleading with the fact that the Seahawks got two playoff wins against two teams that had injuries to key players.
We didn't have our MVP rb when we beat the Foreskins. Save the excuses for after the Super Bowl....you're gonna need them. You guys better think of a good excuse now for why the Seahawks beat you in the Super Bowl. What will it be?

Steelers are going down and Bettis will wish he tried a little harder during the majority of his carreer and not waited till the very last year to go after a ring.....trust me...we'll exploit so many holes in your 3-4 defense that you all will go home crying....wondering how it all happend and where it all went so wrong. We'll show you the left as we run past you on the right. As you hold Alexander down to only 150 yards...we'll throw it to Stevens as he waits patiently in the endzone for another Seahawks touchdown!

Seahawks 31
Steelers 21

83-Steelers-43
01-24-2006, 02:35 PM
*yawns*. And before this, there were Bungal fans saying the same thing, Colt fans saying the same thing and Bronco fans saying the same thing. Keep talking. That Seahawk bandwagon will unload faster than the Bungal bandwagon. It's just annoying that we have to deal with Birdie fans for two weeks instead of only one.

24seven
01-24-2006, 02:38 PM
looks like we got ourselves a fortune teller boys.. wo is me.. Let us just roll over now.. For 1 there is NO east coast west coast bias.. How many years did the 49ers reign and was there bias then? I think you get a bad rap mostly from past experience. Lets see.. never been to the super bowl.. lost all playoff games the past few years.. Never won a big game on the road IN the playoffs.. hmm.. Just not alot to go off of other than a good year this year.. Oh but you do have the MVP of the league so that should account for something.> I guess the NFL didn't TOTALLY neglect to mention your team.. Just gave out the most prestigious award of the year to your running back.. But other than that no respect at all.. Seattle what? who? comon dude.. give the violins a rest the strings are all worn out.. Time to put some new ones on.. drop the pom poms and pray your team even shows up to the super bowl cause the Steelers are gonna whoop the gulls back to the Pugent Sound! You'll be eatin Ivars clam chowder and a ****y burger wondering what the hell just happened... which sounds good and all but.. watchin the Steelers parade around Pittsburgh will be more enjoyable.. Good luck though.. I do respect Seattle and congratulate them but the expectations of the Seahawks are set for a reason until they actually change history and perform up to the standards your setting for them.

drizze99
01-24-2006, 02:42 PM
I agree with that 100%. Nobody still has a clue as to what the Seahawks are made of....mainly because they don't want to pay attention. They have been discounting the Seahawks all season long....the media...the fans (outside of the NW)...the other teams. Everybody said how tough the Redskins and Panthers were....how road tested and battle tested they were and how bad we would fall to a tough team like them. How the Seahawks with our whimpy schedule is no contender. Well f*ck that! We are the number #1 seed....we are the better team...and soon....when the Bus is limping off the field without a ring....the whole world will know how for real we are.

Well, seeing that I play FF year in and year out, I am well versed on not only how the Steelers play, but how the rest of the league plays. So yes, I know all about your Seachickens.

With that said, your Seachickens are a decent team. You have arguably the best RB in the league and a decent QB. Hasselbeck can and WILL make mistakes. I know this because he was my QB for 2 years. He will have a rough day at the office when our D is in his face. Our run D is stoudt and only allowed ONE 100yd rusher this season. Our D is masterful at getting QB's out of rhythm. Just ask Kitna, Manning & Plummer.

I was impressed that your D contained Carolina's offense. They actually reviewed tape and saw that their whole offense revolved around S. Smith. Why the Giants and Bears didn't see that is beyond me. Couple that with Carolina having their 4th string back in and it's a cake walk to the Super Bowl. So how hard was your trip really? You only played 2 games at HOME and the opponents you faced were the offenseLESS Foreskins and the battered Panthers. Yea.... real tough road there. I would surely come to the opponents message board thumping my chest.

seahawksfan
01-24-2006, 02:43 PM
Ok, wait, I can understand your argument and satisfaction with beating Carolina, but who in their right mind felt strong about Washington's chances?? I'm sorry, but no, that is not a great football team. But good point, the NFL is the NFL, but seriously, you cannot compare the 4,5,and 6 seeds in the NFC to those in the AFC. Just not a strong argument. I mean, c'mon, Jacksonville was 12-4 for cripessake!

Your problem is you just don't want to ACCEPT that everyone HAS heard of you guys, and know quite a lot about them. Can someone else in this post please tell me if Pittsburgh was on the cover of ESPN: The Magazine this year? And was Seattle? I believe they were...You guys seriously need to get over yourselves. You get plenty of cred, love, etc. It's there, you just hate the fact you're stuck in the land of coffee, rain and woods, and don't have an incredibly exciting team. That's why you don't get the attention compared to the Colts, for example.

Either way, the media's opinion doesn't matter; you're a No. 1 seed, and therefore, SHOULD be in the Super Bowl. You're not worried about a little 6 seed, are you?

Believe me, I'll take the land of coffee, rain and woods over the rust belt any day. If a balanced offense, a no-name defense yields a 15-3 record then hey, I'll take it every time. I give props to the Steelers for getting hot at the right time, but do you really think that the NFC was a cake walk? You guys changed your offense in the playoffs becoming a passing team. You have great coordinators, however, we have a great QB, a great offensive head coach who has been in several Super Bowls and has won, and a defense that under adversity all year has stepped it up each game.

The SB will be a great football game. It will not be the blowout some Steeler fans predict. Isn't it great to have a SB that has a tight betting line? I love it!

Ambridge
01-24-2006, 02:44 PM
We didn't have our MVP rb when we beat the Foreskins. Save the excuses for after the Super Bowl....you're gonna need them. You guys better think of a good excuse now for why the Seahawks beat you in the Super Bowl. What will it be?

Steelers are going down and Bettis will wish he tried a little harder during the majority of his carreer and not waited till the very last year to go after a ring.....trust me...we'll exploit so many holes in your 3-4 defense that you all will go home crying....wondering how it all happend and where it all went so wrong. We'll show you the left as we run past you on the right. As you hold Alexander down to only 150 yards...we'll throw it to Stevens as he waits patiently in the endzone for another Seahawks touchdown!

Seahawks 31
Steelers 21

Wow! You beat the Redskins without "Gaptooth" Alexander in the game. You should have beat them seeing how Clinton Portis was playing the game with a slight separation in his shoulder along with a neck/shoulder stinger.......he hardly played in the second half and Mark Brunell was playing with a sprained ligament in his knee.

Good luck trying to exploit our defense........that's if your offense along with "Gappy" gets to see the ball for more than 20 minutes.

BritishSteel
01-24-2006, 02:50 PM
Steelers are going down and Bettis will wish he tried a little harder during the majority of his carreer and not waited till the very last year to go after a ring.....trust me...we'll exploit so many holes in your 3-4 defense that you all will go home crying

Like you did in Dallas with their 3-4 defence? Blew holes in that line-up didn't you - how many offensive touchdowns did you score, 0 was it? The Hawks have faced 1 half-decent 3-4 team all season and you won that off an interception return - total offensive points against the NFC 9-7 Cowboys? 6. Remind yourself of your almighty skills against a proper smashmouth 3-4 when Hasselbeck is meeting Steelers blitzers for the seventh or eighth time.

The Steelers are favourites because a collection of Vegas bookies think they know football. It doesn't matter a damn. The Steelers fans know Seattle is a top-notch team, you don't finish top seed in your Conference without having a hell of a season, what happens on some casino floor has no impact whatsoever on anything.

Brady12
01-24-2006, 02:50 PM
I disagree. Hasselbeck is not a mobile QB, he will have relentless pressure the entire game. Matt Hasselbeck, please meet Troy Polamalu and Joey Porter. Oh, and you want to talk about adversity? Try beating the Broncos, Colts, and the Bungles on the road in the playoffs when NOBODY gave them a chance.

Not even the fans?

Anyways, Hasselbeck had more rushing yards than Roethlisberger this year, if he wants to, he can move.

BigSteelThrill
01-24-2006, 02:51 PM
Now the Seahawks are underdogs to the AFC's sixth seed. Considering the adversity the Seahawks have been through, they will feel right at home in Super Bowl XL.

You really are new to the whole football and NFL thing arent ya.

Its Ok we forgive you, hopefully youll become a lifelong fan of it all.

Seriously... the AFC winner was going to be as a 6 point favorite.
And was set as such when the playoffs started.

And despite the Steelers (who have won more games the past two years then any other team in football) winning the AFC... when the Seahawks won the NFC, the line was instantly moved down to 3.5! Thats just the difference in HFA, and considering the proximity and the number of Steeler fans that will be present, the game is being called a draw!

Again, except for the Bengals and Jacksonville... the NFC was going to be a underdog no matter what. its not a knock on the Hawks, its the way the two sides have been playting football for the past 3 years. The fact that there is no favorite beyond a Home Field Advantage spread, speaks volumes of the Seahawks and the respect everyone has for them

83-Steelers-43
01-24-2006, 02:55 PM
There is no need to even bother ripping on Washington state. It's Washington state!!! LOL.

Hawkswin
01-24-2006, 02:57 PM
I'm worried about the 3-4. The Hawks didn't play well against the 4 linebacker set, and the Steeler's blitz schemes are wicked. That said, the Hawks have the best O-line in the league, and with Stevens and Strong back to pick up the blitz, I like Seattle's chances.

Defensively, Rothlesburger is young. He's played well because he hasn't been pushed. While he's hot and confident, pressure from the Defense that has the most sacks in the league, along with another of the best run defenses in the league, and our own crazy pacific islander in Lofa Tatupu, I think your young QB is going to revert, make some key mistakes and throw at least one INT.

seahawksfan
01-24-2006, 02:59 PM
looks like we got ourselves a fortune teller boys.. wo is me.. Let us just roll over now.. For 1 there is NO east coast west coast bias.. How many years did the 49ers reign and was there bias then? I think you get a bad rap mostly from past experience. Lets see.. never been to the super bowl.. lost all playoff games the past few years.. Never won a big game on the road IN the playoffs.. hmm.. Just not alot to go off of other than a good year this year.. Oh but you do have the MVP of the league so that should account for something.> I guess the NFL didn't TOTALLY neglect to mention your team.. Just gave out the most prestigious award of the year to your running back.. But other than that no respect at all.. Seattle what? who? comon dude.. give the violins a rest the strings are all worn out.. Time to put some new ones on.. drop the pom poms and pray your team even shows up to the super bowl cause the Steelers are gonna whoop the gulls back to the Pugent Sound! You'll be eatin Ivars clam chowder and a ****y burger wondering what the hell just happened... which sounds good and all but.. watchin the Steelers parade around Pittsburgh will be more enjoyable.. Good luck though.. I do respect Seattle and congratulate them but the expectations of the Seahawks are set for a reason until they actually change history and perform up to the standards your setting for them.

If winning the Super Bowl is the standard by which all are measured then great. The 70's were the Steelers decade and they had great teams then. Since then the Steelers have made it into the AFC conference and Super Bowl. More then the Seahawks. Props for that. Did the Steelers win the game that matters the most? Notta.

The press has not set a concensus on who will win this game. Isn't better to have differences of opinion? What's cool is that both teams are totaly motivated to win this game.

I like Cowhler. If I was a player I'd want to play for him. However, I like Holmgren, too and am glad that we have his experience leading the Seahawks.

So, we have a great opportunity to change history with a win by either team. You know the Sehawks will show up and leave it all on the field. And if we return wondering what just happened it'll be because we've won the SB and we will be enjoying our chowder and salmon, and burgers.

drizze99
01-24-2006, 03:01 PM
I was wondering when Lofa was going to mentioned.... OVERRATED. He can't hold a candle to any of the 4 LB's we put in uniform.

Hawkfan
01-24-2006, 03:04 PM
You really are new to the whole football and NFL thing arent ya.

Its Ok we forgive you, hopefully youll become a lifelong fan of it all.

Seriously... the AFC winner was going to be as a 6 point favorite.
And was set as such when the playoffs started.

And despite the Steelers (who have won more games the past two years then any other team in football) winning the AFC... when the Seahawks won the NFC, the line was instantly moved down to 3.5! Thats just the difference in HFA, and considering the proximity and the number of Steeler fans that will be present, the game is being called a draw!

Again, except for the Bengals and Jacksonville... the NFC was going to be a underdog no matter what. its not a knock on the Hawks, its the way the two sides have been playting football for the past 3 years. The fact that there is no favorite beyond a Home Field Advantage spread, speaks volumes of the Seahawks and the respect everyone has for them

There's no reason to take cheap shots here at me. I thought this would be intelligent conversation. Good luck Pittsburgh lets hope for a competitive game.

seahawksfan
01-24-2006, 03:06 PM
I was wondering when Lofa was going to mentioned.... OVERRATED. He can't hold a candle to any of the 4 LB's we put in uniform.

This is one of the weakest posts I've read at this forum. If you continue to hyperventilate grab a brown bag and take a deep breath! :rolleyes:

If you knew football you would know that the Steelers have the utmost respect for this guy. He's a stud and is getting major props from every team that has gone against him. Your LB's are good, too.

Man_Of_Steel
01-24-2006, 03:10 PM
Not even the fans?

Anyways, Hasselbeck had more rushing yards than Roethlisberger this year, if he wants to, he can move.

Yeah well Plummer thought he could move against us too. What happend with him? LOL!

Hawkfan
01-24-2006, 03:13 PM
I was wondering when Lofa was going to mentioned.... OVERRATED. He can't hold a candle to any of the 4 LB's we put in uniform.

Considering he is a rookie maybe not, but maybe so he is a strong talent

drizze99
01-24-2006, 03:15 PM
This is one of the weakest posts I've read at this forum. If you continue to hyperventilate grab a brown bag and take a deep breath! :rolleyes:

If you knew football you would know that the Steelers have the utmost respect for this guy. He's a stud and is getting major props from every team that has gone against him. Your LB's are good, too.

We also had a 'stud' LB in his rookie season. His name was Bell... you might have heard of him. Lofa played well this year but he's not a stud. When you do it season after season, THEN you are a stud. Until then, you are a one hit wonder.

Brady12
01-24-2006, 03:15 PM
He still got 30 yards, the Denver O-Linedidn't do the best they could blocking him either.

clevestinks
01-24-2006, 03:16 PM
Not even the fans?

Anyways, Hasselbeck had more rushing yards than Roethlisberger this year, if he wants to, he can move.
This doesn`t mean that he is more mobile! Plus Ben missed 4.5 games. And he wants to throw first, he is elusive. Also with knee surgery at mid season, I`m sure Cowher cringes each time Ben crosses the line of scrimmage, I`m sure he has been told to throw it away. And Ben is bigger and stronger , he can get away and still find away to make things happen with his arm.
Advantage BEN

Ambridge
01-24-2006, 03:17 PM
If you knew football you would know that the Steelers have the utmost respect for this guy. He's a stud and is getting major props from every team that has gone against him. Your LB's are good, too.

Lofa Tatupu is a beast and there's no doubt about that and definately could have won the Defensive ROY.........but we've seen the likes of him in Shawne Merriman who actually won the D-ROY and Odell Thurman who was in the mix for the award as well.

seahawksfan
01-24-2006, 03:19 PM
We also had a 'stud' LB in his rookie season. His name was Bell... you might have heard of him. Lofa played well this year but he's not a stud. When you do it season after season, THEN you are a stud. Until then, you are a one hit wonder.

Yes, Bell definetely a stud player. However, the stud rules were changed and now 1st year/rookies are allowed to join the club. Lofa is a member in good standing. :sofunny:

drizze99
01-24-2006, 03:20 PM
Yes, Bell definetely a stud player. However, the stud rules were changed and now 1st year/rookies are allowed to join the club. Lofa is a member in good standing. :sofunny:

oh yes, that post was hillarious!

BigSteelThrill
01-24-2006, 03:23 PM
There's no reason to take cheap shots here at me. I thought this would be intelligent conversation. Good luck Pittsburgh lets hope for a competitive game.

You said and I quote... "Seahawks are underdogs???"

Like you didnt know this was going to happen. Anyone who watches football KNEW that the NFC was going to be underdog. You either are NEW to football or you are acting/lying. I decided to take you as a man of your word, that you were surprised at something that everyone who follows football already knew and understood before the Sunday games had been played.

I figured I would explain to you so you would understand.

Thus you must be new to the whole thing. Being an actor/liar is better?


That was poor form sir. Football talk indeed!
Hard to talk to someone who is purposely misleading and deceiving in a conversation.

seahawksfan
01-24-2006, 03:30 PM
oh yes, that post was hillarious!

:cool:

Hawkswin
01-24-2006, 03:35 PM
Lofa's amazing. What he's done in his rookie year is astounding, and I can understand that Steelers fans wouldn't know the whole story. He's the undisputed leader of our defense, and much of what makes him a stud isn't found on the stats page.

drizze99
01-24-2006, 03:40 PM
Yea, but you guys are talking to a team that produces 4 STUD LB's/year. You can have your ONE, and I'll take my FOUR. But it doesn't stop there... our crazy islander is a PRO BOWLER. Yes, that's a stud for ya. Wait there's more.. you have Ike that is as solid as a cover guy that you'll find... just ask CJ, Harrison & R. Smith.

clevestinks
01-24-2006, 03:51 PM
I wish we were under dogs. We play better that way. seahawks are being judge by the nfc being weaker. But we were better than a sixth seed. Ans we did beat the God Like Manning team!LOL

Hawkswin
01-24-2006, 03:53 PM
Yea, but you guys are talking to a team that produces 4 STUD LB's/year. You can have your ONE, and I'll take my FOUR. But it doesn't stop there... our crazy islander is a PRO BOWLER. Yes, that's a stud for ya. Wait there's more.. you have Ike that is as solid as a cover guy that you'll find... just ask CJ, Harrison & R. Smith.
It'd be a friggin' miracle for any team that doesn't run a 3-4 to produce 4 stud lb's a year. :dang:

That said, ignore Hill at your peril. He's the other rookie stud.

lotas
01-24-2006, 03:57 PM
Yeah, Ike, along with the rest of our cornerbacks has just played awesome. I remember whenever we'd play a division team like five years ago I'd also cringe when Titans' McNair or Jack's Brunell would throw the long ball, because I knew there was a good chance it was going to be caught.

Now it's not even a big deal...Taylor, McFadden (who seems to be doing great), Townsend, and then throw Hope, Polamalu, heck. I'm so impressed with the defense this year.

How awesome would it be to have Cowher start Bettis and see Jerome run for 100+

lotas
01-24-2006, 04:01 PM
It'd be a friggin' miracle for any team that doesn't run a 3-4 to produce 4 stud lb's a year. :dang:

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not necessarily. There is a difference between being a "stud", and being effective, consistent, hard-hitting, and being a playmaker. Lots of guys are studs because they seem to make plays. But can they make them every game? Can they make them when they count? Can they come up big when everything's on the line? I'd rather have four solid guys than a stud.

This is my favorite and IMO most impressive linebacking core I've seen from Pit, probably since the guys I loved in the 90's...Lloyd and Kirkland and such.
Given my ten years as a fan of course

HawkDawg
01-24-2006, 04:01 PM
I have no problem with the Seahawks being the underdog because I think the AFC was a much stronger conference and this will be our first road playoff game.

That said, the strongest conference in the end is the one that wins the Super Bowl and I believe we will earn that distinction on Feb 5th. I hope the fact that all the money is being layed down on the Steelers will give us that edge we need in what looks like a great matchup!

I hope the Steelers play a great game and stay healthy, but other than that, lets talk some S#1T!

seahawksfan
01-24-2006, 04:21 PM
not necessarily. There is a difference between being a "stud", and being effective, consistent, hard-hitting, and being a playmaker. Lots of guys are studs because they seem to make plays. But can they make them every game? Can they make them when they count? Can they come up big when everything's on the line? I'd rather have four solid guys than a stud.

This is my favorite and IMO most impressive linebacking core I've seen from Pit, probably since the guys I loved in the 90's...Lloyd and Kirkland and such.
Given my ten years as a fan of course

Kirkland was an animal. I loved his play. Great mention.


By your rating then Lofa is a playmaker. Every game he changes the flow through hits, interceptions, etc. They get made when they count. He's solid. Btw, how many lf your LB's made it to the Pro Bowl? Lofu will get there next year.

lotas
01-24-2006, 04:25 PM
Kirkland was an animal. I loved his play. Great mention.


By your rating then Lofa is a playmaker. Every game he changes the flow through hits, interceptions, etc. They get made when they count. He's solid. Btw, how many lf your LB's made it to the Pro Bowl? Lofu will get there next year.
I will trust you in your judgement because to be honest I hate when fans try to rate another teams players in which they watched one or two games of their play.

Honestly I haven't watched Lofa in more then two or three games, so I shouldn't judge him. Just as I hate people basing their opinion of Ben or another player off of one game they caught a highlight clip of :)

Suitanim
01-24-2006, 04:38 PM
Going back to "Seahawks are the underdogs?" topic.

They had to pick somebody, and the Steelers just dusted the best teams from the best conference in the NFL. If I was able to remove myself emotionally from the argument, I'd probably say that was the smart money, too...

seahawksfan
01-24-2006, 04:41 PM
Going back to "Seahawks are the underdogs?" topic.

They had to pick somebody, and the Steelers just dusted the best teams from the best conference in the NFL. If I was able to remove myself emotionally from the argument, I'd probably say that was the smart money, too...

I don't mind being the betting underdog. It'll add to the Seahawks motivation. The Steelers were recognized for being the hottest team. Rememebr all those SB's that were boring because of blowouts? This one will be different.

Now, if there is a significant injury this week the line will change big time.

marksashton
01-24-2006, 04:44 PM
Don't puff out your chest too far Mr. Blowhard.....you'll set yourself on fire with all of that hot air.

You might want to temper all that cheerleading with the fact that the Seahawks got two playoff wins against two teams that had injuries to key players.

I agree the dude probably needs to temper his passions a bit. I'm a Seahawks fan and hope they'll win but I think it's going to be a close game.

Regarding your comment on injuries to key players, I think that's a fair comment but only to a point. I'll point out that the most significant injury in the Hawks/Skins game was a Hawk injury: Alexander. Who were the key injured players for the Redskins? In the Carolina game, clearly the injury to Foster was big but who else? From what I understand, their defense was pretty healthy and the Seahawks still absolutely detroyed them. Don't tell me about Peppers. He played and I guarantee you that there were Seahawks players who also played with injuries at least as serious. I'll aslo point out that the Seahawks have played a good part of the season and all fo the playoffs without their leading DB and they still managed to "eek out" wins.

Regardless, I think the game agsint Pittsburgh will be another level of magnitude tougher. But that's the way it's supposed to be in the playoffs. Each week the teams get tougher. I think the Steeles and their fans would be making a mistake if they assume that the Seahawks aren't a better team than any you faced in the playoffs to date. Only time will tell.

Ambridge
01-24-2006, 05:00 PM
I agree the dude probably needs to temper his passions a bit. I'm a Seahawks fan and hope they'll win but I think it's going to be a close game.

Regarding your comment on injuries to key players, I think that's a fair comment but only to a point. I'll point out that the most significant injury in the Hawks/Skins game was a Hawk injury: Alexander. Who were the key injured players for the Redskins?


In the Carolina game, clearly the injury to Foster was big but who else?
I already posted it but Clinton Portis was playing with a slightly separated shoulder along with a neck and shoulder stinger-he didn't get many carries in the second half......and Mark Brunell still had a sprained knee ligament.

Nick Goings was knocked out in the first quarter against the Hawks and Carolina had to go with their 4th string running back.

Good post BTW.

I wasn't trying to diminish the Hawks accomplishments in the playoffs but Zorn to Largent was coming across a little too brash.

marksashton
01-24-2006, 05:07 PM
I already posted it but Clinton Portis was playing with a slightly separated shoulder along with a neck and shoulder stinger-he didn't get many carries in the second half......and Mark Brunell still had a sprained knee ligament.

Nick Goings was knocked out in the first quarter against the Hawks and Carolina had to go with their 4th string running back.

Good post BTW.

I wasn't trying to diminish the Hawks accomplishments in the playoffs but Zorn to Largent was coming across a little too brash.

Yeah, I saw your post about Portis after I posted. My bad. Forgot about that. I also now remember that Brunell was gimply. Regardless, we shut them down. That's all you can do, right? Losing Goings in the Carolina game was, quite honestly, barely a rounding error. The Seahawks SO owned Carolina that I don't think having him the whole game would have made any difference whatsoever.

Later on, after I'm more initiated into this great forum, I'll post my POV on the matchups but suffice it to say that the Seahawks are underrated on both sides of the ball. Their D is very tough against the run and their offense is the best in the NFL. You can talk about schedule strength all you want but points are points. ANd they scored all those points with our number 1 and 2 receivers out for much of the season. Pittsburgh will be tough but the Seahawks offensive strengths (offensive line and balanced passing and rushing game) and defenseive strength against the run has a decent chance of balancing out the Steelers strenghts.

Ambridge
01-24-2006, 05:13 PM
Yeah, I saw your post about Portis after I posted. My bad. Forgot about that. I also now remember that Brunell was gimply. Regardless, we shut them down. That's all you can do, right? Losing Goings in the Carolina game was, quite honestly, barely a rounding error. The Seahawks SO owned Carolina that I don't think having him the whole game would have made any difference whatsoever.

Later on, after I'm more initiated into this great forum, I'll post my POV on the matchups but suffice it to say that the Seahawks are underrated on both sides of the ball. They D is very tough against the run and their offense is the best in the NFL. Pittsburgh will be tough but the Seahawks offensive strengths (offensive line and balanced passing and rushing game) and defenseive strength against the run has a decent chance of balancing out the Steelers strenghts.


The Seahawks took care of their business and did what they had to do to get to the Superbowl and that's all that really matters.
Any Steeler fan would have to be foolish not to give them their proper respect.

2900DegreeHawk
01-24-2006, 05:18 PM
Most of those is Seattle feel that the hawks are basically playing at Pittsburgh for the Superbowl. You guys think that it will be mostly a PRO-STEELER crowd? It will certainly be the closest thing to a home game for the Pitt players in a LONG time.

BigSteelThrill
01-24-2006, 05:24 PM
We take up 10-20% of a crowd at away games. Even if they are sold out we find tickets.

At a neutral site... has to be 60% minimum.
Being 250 miles away? Has to be a bit more then that.

Suitanim
01-24-2006, 05:29 PM
When we played the Cowboys in the SB in 1995, when they were at the peak of their 90's dynasty and their bandwagon was as full as could be, the stadium was still probably 65-35 Steelers fans.

I expect Ford Field to be 70-30 Steelers fans. But the Steelers opted for their away jerseys, signifying they are still carrying that chip on their collective shoulder, and, if I was a Seattle player or coach, that would probably scare me more than any stat or record the Steelers bring into this game.

MNsteelers
01-24-2006, 05:38 PM
Yeah, good call 83-Steelers-43....*yawn*
Don't worry, the Open Letter to Seahawks fans is coming soon....

2900DegreeHawk
01-24-2006, 05:43 PM
I expect Ford Field to be 70-30 Steelers fans. But the Steelers opted for their away jerseys, signifying they are still carrying that chip on their collective shoulder, and, if I was a Seattle player or coach, that would probably scare me more than any stat or record the Steelers bring into this game.


The players are not morons, they know that they are the home team. So no, your D scares me more than the color of your friggin jerseys

BlitzburghRockCity
01-24-2006, 06:09 PM
The white jerseys signify an attitude that we have been carrying since the last part of the regular season basically. Its us against the world, nobody gave us a chance to get here and we arent about to stop now no matter the media says about us.

Suitanim
01-24-2006, 06:11 PM
The players are not morons, they know that they are the home team. So no, your D scares me more than the color of your friggin jerseys

No, the players aren't, but are you? This is the second time you've misinterpreted my posts. Did I SAY that the jerseys mattered? NO, I CLEARLY stated that the CHIP on the Steelers collective shoulder is what your team should fear more than anything.

I sincerely hope that I will not have to re-type every single one of my posts with clarifications for the next two weeks simply because you can't comprehend complex sentences...

seahawksfan
01-24-2006, 06:23 PM
The white jerseys signify an attitude that we have been carrying since the last part of the regular season basically. Its us against the world, nobody gave us a chance to get here and we arent about to stop now no matter the media says about us.

I've always liked the Black and Gold. Reminds me more of the classic Steeler teams from the glory years of the 70's.

bozz723
01-24-2006, 07:40 PM
Ok Hwks Fans,


I'm not going to sit here and guarantee a victory. I will say that I am not surprised that we are favored at all. We should be favored, if it wasn't for some dismal games by our 3rd string QB we would have had a bye in the playoffs. I fully knew going into the playoffs that we were the best team in the league. I knew, barring a horrible game with 5 turnovers, that we would and should win the superbowl.

The seahawks are a good team I guess, but you honestly don't know what type of team you are playing if you are already guaranteeing a victory over the Steelers.

By no means are we satisfied with our afc championship victory. This season will be a complete failure if we somehow lose to you guys. We are gonna let it all hang loose, we won't play conservatively and you won't be able to run on us.

Just for the record, you could have played the redskins without an offense and won the game.


I know anything can happen, but the Steelers are the better team, and barring a catastrophe will win the superbowl.

DIESELMAN
01-24-2006, 08:14 PM
steelers should be underdogs, but who really cares.....if you need extra motivation now, you dont belong in this game......to be a champion or not to be....that is the question.

EXACTLY!!! This is THEE GAME everyone plays the season for.....This is the game that every football player thats in it should play like they're 10 ft. tall....underdog or not it doesn't matter.....Bring it all and leave it on the field.....:helmet:

seahawksfan
01-24-2006, 08:17 PM
Ok Hwks Fans,


I'm not going to sit here and guarantee a victory. I will say that I am not surprised that we are favored at all. We should be favored, if it wasn't for some dismal games by our 3rd string QB we would have had a bye in the playoffs. I fully knew going into the playoffs that we were the best team in the league. I knew, barring a horrible game with 5 turnovers, that we would and should win the superbowl.

The seahawks are a good team I guess, but you honestly don't know what type of team you are playing if you are already guaranteeing a victory over the Steelers.

By no means are we satisfied with our afc championship victory. This season will be a complete failure if we somehow lose to you guys. We are gonna let it all hang loose, we won't play conservatively and you won't be able to run on us.

Just for the record, you could have played the redskins without an offense and won the game.


I know anything can happen, but the Steelers are the better team, and barring a catastrophe will win the superbowl.

Just for the record: one good reason why the Steelers are still in the playoffs is because of a missed field goal by an opponent. Same reason why we got a bye with the Giants missed FG's. This season is be a remarkable one for the Seahawks and a victory in the Super Bowl will make it feel even better.

Da'Burgh
01-24-2006, 08:25 PM
SEAHAWKS ARE WEAK!
SIMPLE AS THAT!
Remember that game when the Tennessee Titans almost took you guys out? That was fairly recent. Says a lot about AFC>NFC.

'nuff said.

Stlrs4Life
01-24-2006, 08:28 PM
I'm not sure what you mean about home. But, the way Steeler fans follow the team. Detroit will be Heinz Field West come Super Sunday.

seahawksfan
01-24-2006, 08:32 PM
I'm not sure what you mean about home. But, the way Steeler fans follow the team. Detroit will be Heinz Field West come Super Sunday.

No it wont. You might have a few more owing to geography but have you ever been to a SB? The game lacks the kind of excitment the conference games have. The atmosphere is way to corporate. Only about 25% in attandence will be team fans.

It's going to be as neutral asit can be for both teams. Now, the bars outside are another story:sofunny:

sparky
01-24-2006, 08:37 PM
i dont know..I have a feeling there will be a hell of alot of terrible towls flying around come superbowl sunday.

bozz723
01-24-2006, 08:57 PM
Just for the record: one good reason why the Steelers are still in the playoffs is because of a missed field goal by an opponent. Same reason why we got a bye with the Giants missed FG's. This season is be a remarkable one for the Seahawks and a victory in the Super Bowl will make it feel even better.



Are you really gonna go there ? Did you even watch that game ? WE dominated every facet of that game. The only reason that field goal attempt even happened was because of the int overturn and the randle el pass interference in the first half. Those were two blatant calls and the refs wanted it to go Indy's way.

The only reason we are still in the playoffs is because we are blatantly better than everyone else. Not because of a missed 50 yard field goal by Vanderjagt. If we played in the NFC we might be undefeated, even with Tommy Maddox.

BlueTalon
01-24-2006, 09:17 PM
Hasselbeck can and WILL make mistakes. I know this because he was my QB for 2 years. He will have a rough day at the office when our D is in his face. Our run D is stoudt and only allowed ONE 100yd rusher this season. Our D is masterful at getting QB's out of rhythm. Just ask Kitna, Manning & Plummer.You mean Jon Kitna the Seahawks reject, Eli Manning the almost rookie and Jake the Snake? If you think Hasselbeck falls into any of those categories, you haven't been paying much attention. Besides, your D can't get in his face without going through our O line, and they're not going to let that happen often enough for it to be a big problem.

By the way, our D only allowed one 100 yard rusher, too. :cool:


(edit) Just so you know, the "almost rookie" thing is directed solely at Eli. Big Ben is a completely different animal -- he reminds me of Dan Marino in how he was able to be so productive so early in his carreer.

fergusonat
01-24-2006, 09:24 PM
^He meant Peyton Manning, not Eli... :dang:

I'm not quite sure how the Seahawks will match up against the Steelers. The only way we're going to find out is by watching the game. I think the Steelers will come in with enough heart-felt emotion and devotion towards the Bus to win it for him, but Seattle is a very capable team.

Regardless, I can't wait...I don't know how we're going to wait 2 weeks! :bouncy:

And quick question...where'd all these Seahawk fans come from suddenly? Haven't visited the forums in a few days because my school blocked the URL for some reason so I guess I missed the initial infiltration.

BlueTalon
01-24-2006, 09:46 PM
^He meant Peyton Manning, not Eli... :dang:

I'm not quite sure how the Seahawks will match up against the Steelers. The only way we're going to find out is by watching the game. I think the Steelers will come in with enough heart-felt emotion and devotion towards the Bus to win it for him, but Seattle is a very capable team.

Regardless, I can't wait...I don't know how we're going to wait 2 weeks! :bouncy:

And quick question...where'd all these Seahawk fans come from suddenly? Haven't visited the forums in a few days because my school blocked the URL for some reason so I guess I missed the initial infiltration.

Oops, wrong conference game! Sorry. Yes, getting to Peyton is more impressive than getting to Eli. (But I think Hasselbeck is more mobile than Peyton.)

I really think the motivation thing is overrated. Or to be more precise, the motivation of the Seahawks is underrated. They have just as much motivation and excitement and enthusiasm as the Steelers, and whereas you have Jerome Bettis, we have Mack Strong -- a 13 year player who has never been to the big dance, whom the team loves and would dearly love to get a SB ring for (sound familiar?). So I tend to discount that as a factor, because if it is a factor, it applies equally to both teams.


Regarding your question about where all the Seahawk fans came from, do you mean on this board? I don't understand why it's a question -- naturally the fans of opposing teams are going to engage before the teams play. If it turns out to be a good experience, some of us will likely stick around.

fergusonat
01-24-2006, 09:51 PM
^Lol, no problem...both suck :sofunny:

seahawksfan
01-24-2006, 09:57 PM
Are you really gonna go there ? Did you even watch that game ? WE dominated every facet of that game. The only reason that field goal attempt even happened was because of the int overturn and the randle el pass interference in the first half. Those were two blatant calls and the refs wanted it to go Indy's way.

The only reason we are still in the playoffs is because we are blatantly better than everyone else. Not because of a missed 50 yard field goal by Vanderjagt. If we played in the NFC we might be undefeated, even with Tommy Maddox.

Absolutely I'll go there. The ref's tried to give the game to Indy? What are you smoking??? Get real...

I watched the game and thought it twisted all over the place. You can trace the game back to the first play if you want. Big deal:dang: . None of that matters. What it all came down to at the very end was a missed field goal by the most accurate FG kicker in NFL history. He had his chance because the Steelers f***ed up with a poor play call instead of sitting on the ball, Bus fumble. So, yes, it did hinge on the kick. Be happy, not sappy.

Great for the Steelers. They went to Denver and kicked butt.

If the Seahawks win the SB I bet you'll be posting that the ref's wanted it to go to Seattle. :dang:

BlueTalon
01-24-2006, 10:05 PM
Hey Seahawksfan, go easy on him. That interception/fumble = incomplete call was absolutely horrid, and it almost cost them the game. It was as bad of a call as Phil Luckett's crew calling a Jets touchdown when Vinnie's HEAD crossed the goalline (which actually did cost us the game.)

seahawksfan
01-24-2006, 10:13 PM
Hey Seahawksfan, go easy on him. That interception/fumble = incomplete call was absolutely horrid, and it almost cost them the game. It was as bad of a call as Phil Luckett's crew calling a Jets touchdown when Vinnie's HEAD crossed the goalline (which actually did cost us the game.)

Got it, but call it what it is: bad officiating and not a conspiracy. My primary point is that the Steelers made a horrid call when they decided to run the ball instead of sitting on it.

BlueTalon
01-24-2006, 10:36 PM
I'm not going to second guess that. It's like going for it on 4th down -- if you make it, you're a genius, if you don't make it you're an idiot. In this case, I think there was a question of how much time they could use by sitting on it. But your greater point is well taken -- if they were sufficiently ahead at that point in the game, it wouldn't have been an issue.

Sharkissle29
01-24-2006, 10:51 PM
im sry, i dont see the seahawks being a team....

Steelers 31
Seahawks 14

i have been less than 7 points off on all 3 playoff games....therefore, call me god

BlacknGold Bleeder
01-24-2006, 11:13 PM
Why all the commotion bout a missed field goal If I remember correctly it would have only tied the game!! to automatically assume a victory is a major f*ck up by everyone! Just don't assume, yin's know what happens then{ ASS out of U and ME}
As to your "great offensive line" we been there done that, ask Indy fans what we did to them and to put Hasselback in the same class as Peyton PLEASE do not go there....
Yins think our defense is some sort of sieve your SADLY mistaken we are the true authors of a bend but don't break defense, throughout the playoffs and season the only time another team was able to move the ball was when we stopped applying pressure. By the way where was your defense ranked??? Well I'll step down off of the soap box and give some one else a chance... GO STEELERS !!!

shevdog
01-24-2006, 11:21 PM
*yawns*. And before this, there were Bungal fans saying the same thing, Colt fans saying the same thing and Bronco fans saying the same thing. Keep talking. That Seahawk bandwagon will unload faster than the Bungal bandwagon. It's just annoying that we have to deal with Birdie fans for two weeks instead of only one.

That's right, we've heard this over and over again.

This is a tough Steelers team and the Seagulls are not going to have a walk in the park on this one. I am looking forward to this matchup.

seahawksfan
01-24-2006, 11:26 PM
Why all the commotion bout a missed field goal If I remember correctly it would have only tied the game!! to automatically assume a victory is a major f*ck up by everyone! Just don't assume, yin's know what happens then{ ASS out of U and ME}
As to your "great offensive line" we been there done that, ask Indy fans what we did to them and to put Hasselback in the same class as Peyton PLEASE do not go there....
Yins think our defense is some sort of sieve your SADLY mistaken we are the true authors of a bend but don't break defense, throughout the playoffs and season the only time another team was able to move the ball was when we stopped applying pressure. By the way where was your defense ranked??? Well I'll step down off of the soap box and give some one else a chance... GO STEELERS !!!

You make a god point about the field goal. Anything could have happened. The point is that the miss propelled the Steelers into Denver. I hate the Donkey's and am very happy that the Steelers are in the SB.

Our O-line is good. I don't recall a post that suggested Hasselbeck was as good as or better than Peyton. Your defense is decent. No one has said it's a sieve. (Maybe you're recalling a Denver Donkey post???) It roams and the secondary rocks. Our defense is pretty good; ranked 1st in sacks. The secondary has been hurt throughout the regular season. We now have everyone back except Hamlin. Our LB's are strong and Lafu is playing well beyond his years.

Anyway, the soapbox is fun to jump on. Get back up there so I can run some smack:bouncy:

bozz723
01-24-2006, 11:36 PM
seahawksfan..

They league didn't even fine Joey Porter for saying that the referees were trying to cheat. That has to tell you something. None of that matters now. We are here, we won the games by dominating our opponents. We were the better team, we have been the best team in the league since day 1. We just played a few games without a QB thats why we only finished 11-5. If batch played for either of the two games Maddox played we would have won easily.

That is at least 13-3, don't even say we got lucky in that Indy game, they didnt have a prayer.

The Steelers have alwaysbeen good, they didn't just all of a suden become good. We just got healthy at the right time and are playing like we are supposed to play.

and the Bettis fumble ? They had 3 timeouts left so you can't just sit on the ball unless you want to give them the ball right back.


Good luck in the SB

seahawksfan
01-24-2006, 11:55 PM
seahawksfan..

They league didn't even fine Joey Porter for saying that the referees were trying to cheat. That has to tell you something.

It simply tells me that they don't want to get things crazy. The absence of a fine is a tacit admission that they screwed up calls during the game. The NFL will almost never publically admit their mistakes. For example, the Giants had two TD's against us that were not TD's. The league admitted it to Holmgren; he let's that slip during a press conference and he got fined. :dang:

None of that matters now. We are here, we won the games by dominating our opponents. We were the better team, we have been the best team in the league since day 1. [PHP]

Not since day 1. That's hyperbole. During the AFC playoffs certainly. I think the Steelers are the hottest team at the moment.

[PHP]We just played a few games without a QB thats why we only finished 11-5. If batch played for either of the two games Maddox played we would have won easily. That is at least 13-3, don't even say we got lucky in that Indy game, they didnt have a prayer.

Every team had to play with starters that were hurt. That's the nature of the game.

The Steelers have alwaysbeen good, they didn't just all of a suden become good. We just got healthy at the right time and are playing like we are supposed to play.

Both teams are playing like they're suppose to...and it's what got them to the SB.

and the Bettis fumble ? They had 3 timeouts left so you can't just sit on the ball unless you want to give them the ball right back.

I may not be the brightest football expert (and this admission does not give anyone the right to run smack.LOL) but there are TV experts that argue that it would have been more prudent to run as much time as possible and then let the Donkeys take over on downs and let the Steeler defense shut down the rest of the game.


Good luck in the SB

Good luck to Steeler fans as well.

BlacknGold Bleeder
01-24-2006, 11:56 PM
Our O-line is good. I don't recall a post that suggested Hasselbeck was as good as or better than Peyton. Your defense is decent. No one has said it's a sieve. (Maybe you're recalling a Denver Donkey post???) It roams and the secondary rocks. Our defense is pretty good; ranked 1st in sacks. The secondary has been hurt throughout the regular season. We now have everyone back except Hamlin. Our LB's are strong and Lafu is playing well beyond his years.

Anyway, the soapbox is fun to jump on. Get back up there so I can run some smack:bouncy:[/QUOTE]

Some where in this rambling string a hawker, :rofl:, said something bout hasselback and Manning in same class, maybe sufficient but not in Peyton's class yet. A sieve maybe an exaggeration , my bad , but Steeler Dee not being given respect for overall I believe 2 or 3 ranking, not just sacks!!! We also have someone who is playing well beyond his years, BIG BEN, and unfortunately for you hawkers, sorry but I love that :funny: , the quarterback position has a bigger impact on the game. :tt: :tt:

u-cant-pinch-a-lofa
01-25-2006, 12:08 AM
Rock on Steelers fans. I couldn't pray for a better team to see my Hawks play in their first ever Super Bowl. I figure this is as good of thread as any to wish you'all the best of luck. I'm yet another diehard, ever-frustrated, seahawks fan for 30 yrs...and this is the best two weeks of our lives up here. I just wanted to say, no matter what happens, or how much sh!t is spoken; everyone up here knows what a team you guys have. Palomalu(sp) is a friggin madman...love it. One thing I must say to the few fans on these threads who truley think seattle will be destroyed; I'm already grinning about how close the game will be. At least the media will know who the seahawks really are at about 6:30(9:30) sunday night.

GOOD LUCK PITTSBURGH AND...

KICK THEIR TEETH IN SEATTLE!!!

lotas
01-25-2006, 12:13 AM
and the Bettis fumble ? They had 3 timeouts left so you can't just sit on the ball unless you want to give them the ball right back.



Exactly. I think it's absolutely hilarious that people think they somehow worked out the angles more than the coaching and there was a bad call in that game. Do you honestly think Cowher didn't even think about the kneeing, he just called Bettis' #? Are you kidding me?

If you really wanna try to outcoach Cowher on an internet board, be my guest. The point is kneeing it wouldve automatically given them the ball, a touchdown with 'automatic' Bettis seals the game, we are on the two. No way in hell you knee it.


And there is absolutely NO comparison with the Indy/Pit game and the NY/Seattle game. The Pit game should've been something like 28-10...if even that, and the league admitted they were wrong, and like bozz said, without fining Poerter, that is obvious of the meaning of that. The Seattle game was nothing like Pit/Indy...NOTHING. Man they are not even close...it kills me to read that.

BlacknGold Bleeder
01-25-2006, 12:15 AM
Rock on Steelers fans. I couldn't pray for a better team to see my Hawks play in their first ever Super Bowl. I figure this is as good of thread as any to wish you'all the best of luck. I'm yet another diehard, ever-frustrated, seahawks fan for 30 yrs...and this is the best two weeks of our lives up here. I just wanted to say, no matter what happens, or how much sh!t is spoken; everyone up here knows what a team you guys have. Palomalu(sp) is a friggin madman...love it. One thing I must say to the few fans on these threads who truley think seattle will be destroyed; I'm already grinning about how close the game will be. At least the media will know who the seahawks really are at about 6:30(9:30) sunday night.

GOOD LUCK PITTSBURGH

KICK THEIR TEETH IN SEATTLE!!!
Keep grinning it makes it easier for us to KICK YOUR TEETH IN !!

u-cant-pinch-a-lofa
01-25-2006, 12:22 AM
^^^^^^^^^^lol, nice one^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

BlueTalon
01-25-2006, 12:37 AM
And there is absolutely NO comparison with the Indy/Pit game and the NY/Seattle game. The Pit game should've been something like 28-10...if even that, and the league admitted they were wrong, and like bozz said, without fining Poerter, that is obvious of the meaning of that. The Seattle game was nothing like Pit/Indy...NOTHING. Man they are not even close...it kills me to read that.Chill. He wasn't comparing the games, he was comparing referee mistakes and their impacts on those games.

lotas
01-25-2006, 02:02 AM
Oops, wrong conference game! Sorry. Yes, getting to Peyton is more impressive than getting to Eli. (But I think Hasselbeck is more mobile than Peyton.)

I really think the motivation thing is overrated. Or to be more precise, the motivation of the Seahawks is underrated. They have just as much motivation and excitement and enthusiasm as the Steelers, and whereas you have Jerome Bettis, we have Mack Strong -- a 13 year player who has never been to the big dance, whom the team loves and would dearly love to get a SB ring for (sound familiar?). So I tend to discount that as a factor, because if it is a factor, it applies equally to both teams.


Regarding your question about where all the Seahawk fans came from, do you mean on this board? I don't understand why it's a question -- naturally the fans of opposing teams are going to engage before the teams play. If it turns out to be a good experience, some of us will likely stick around.
Okay well when Mack Strong is the fifth alltime rusher and a has a Hall of Fame career then we will call it equal.

And he was comparing the games...this was prior to the referee talk
"Originally Posted by seahawksfan
Just for the record: one good reason why the Steelers are still in the playoffs is because of a missed field goal by an opponent. Same reason why we got a bye with the Giants missed FG's."
Show me the word ref :dang:

tony hipchest
01-25-2006, 08:57 AM
I'm worried about the 3-4. The Hawks didn't play well against the 4 linebacker set, and the Steeler's blitz schemes are wicked. That said, the Hawks have the best O-line in the league, and with Stevens and Strong back to pick up the blitz, I like Seattle's chances.

Defensively, Rothlesburger is young. He's played well because he hasn't been pushed. While he's hot and confident, pressure from the Defense that has the most sacks in the league, along with another of the best run defenses in the league, and our own crazy pacific islander in Lofa Tatupu, I think your young QB is going to revert, make some key mistakes and throw at least one INT.

what will ben "revert" to? an undefeated rookie qb? the guy who is 4-1 in the playoffs in his 1st 2 years. the guy who is undefeated when he throws for under 200 yds or 20 attempts? this isnt jake plummer youre dealing with. ben has thrown interceptions like the 1 in indy. it hasnt killed them though. seattle cant build a rookie wall that he will hit like late last season.

the sack stat is nice but check who has the most sacks / game in the postseason. in the regular season seattle probably averaged 1/4 more sacks per game than the steelers. yes the hawks o-line is great, but so was indys and so is the steelers. 3/5 of them were in the pro bowl last year. our defense practices against them every day.

when l. tomlinson was the best running back early in the season, the steelers stopped him. they can do the same against alexander.

theres several plays where tatupu's youth and inexperience may be a liability. our islander made a big mistake last year in the champ game, no matter how great they are thes 1st year starters can get burnt.

tony hipchest
01-25-2006, 09:19 AM
No it wont. You might have a few more owing to geography but have you ever been to a SB? The game lacks the kind of excitment the conference games have. The atmosphere is way to corporate. Only about 25% in attandence will be team fans.

It's going to be as neutral asit can be for both teams. Now, the bars outside are another story:sofunny:this is more wishful thinking on your part. sure a tampa bay/oakland superbowl may be neutral but have you ever seen the steelers in a superbowl? go back to 95 in tempe (cowboy country) where it sounded like a home game for the steelers and terrible towels flooded the stadium. if what you said was true that the fan make up will be
25% steelers
25% seahawks
50% neutral
then all the neutral fans are naturally gravitate to and cheer for the steelers. or even the bus. fans of other teams will buy a terrible towel just as an iconic superbowl souvenir, but they will become infected and that towel will be waving. steelerfans will get their hand on any ticket. just ask the fans of dallas, giants, cinci, cleveland, san diego, denver etc. where out of every 5 people in attendance, one is a steelerfan. how about the steelerfans at the seahawks game last week? hopefully the seahawks are smart enough to practice their silent count.

Hawkswin
01-25-2006, 09:27 AM
Okay well when Mack Strong is the fifth alltime rusher and a has a Hall of Fame career then we will call it equal.
Mack Strong is the best blocking fullback in the league, bar none. He blocks better than any other FB, AND he's got good hands and can get tough yards when we need them. While a lot is said about the Hawks' left side, a solid O-line is relatively new here in Seattle. Seahawk running backs have been gaining 1000 yards per year like clockwork even when the O-line was a gaping black hole inviting the defense in. Strong is always there knocking stud linebackers on their collective asses to create holes for his RB.

seahawksfan
01-25-2006, 11:39 AM
this is more wishful thinking on your part. sure a tampa bay/oakland superbowl may be neutral but have you ever seen the steelers in a superbowl? go back to 95 in tempe (cowboy country) where it sounded like a home game for the steelers and terrible towels flooded the stadium. if what you said was true that the fan make up will be
25% steelers
25% seahawks
50% neutral
then all the neutral fans are naturally gravitate to and cheer for the steelers. or even the bus. fans of other teams will buy a terrible towel just as an iconic superbowl souvenir, but they will become infected and that towel will be waving. steelerfans will get their hand on any ticket. just ask the fans of dallas, giants, cinci, cleveland, san diego, denver etc. where out of every 5 people in attendance, one is a steelerfan. how about the steelerfans at the seahawks game last week? hopefully the seahawks are smart enough to practice their silent count.

Not wishful at all. There are not ennough tickets for sale to bring either team to the ratios you suggest. Fact is the SB is about corporate money. The energy is no where what it is at the conference championship stage. I agree that Steeler fans travel better than most teams. When the Steelers last played the Seahawka (11/02/03) there were a ton of Steeler fans. Impressive...but not 20% impressive.

There were lots of Steeler fans at the Seahawks game. I was one of them and wanted them to beat the Donkey's.

seahawksfan
01-25-2006, 11:42 AM
Okay well when Mack Strong is the fifth alltime rusher and a has a Hall of Fame career then we will call it equal.

And he was comparing the games...this was prior to the referee talk
"Originally Posted by seahawksfan
Just for the record: one good reason why the Steelers are still in the playoffs is because of a missed field goal by an opponent. Same reason why we got a bye with the Giants missed FG's."
Show me the word ref :dang:

You make a good point about The Bus vs. Mack. Still, Mack is our "Bus" and we love him for all he's given to the team over 13 years. Props to Bettis for the yardage he's gained.

Don't nit pick where and when I introduced the ref issue. It's central to my comment that ref's can affect games unintentionally. The ONLY comparison made was as it relates to the ref's actions during the respective games.

marksashton
01-25-2006, 11:52 AM
Not wishful at all. There are not ennough tickets for sale to bring either team to the ratios you suggest. Fact is the SB is about corporate money. The energy is no where what it is at the conference championship stage. I agree that Steeler fans travel better than most teams. When the Steelers last played the Seahawka (11/02/03) there were a ton of Steeler fans. Impressive...but not 20% impressive.

There were lots of Steeler fans at the Seahawks game. I was one of them and wanted them to beat the Donkey's.

Seahawks fan, I'm a hawks fan but you don't get this. The Steelers have been around a VERY long time. Their fans will go to practically any lengths to get tickets...and they're close to Detroit. The hawks fans have two things going against them. First, while passionate, they don't have the fans base the Steelers do. Think of all the people who USED to live in Pittsburgh but moved away to nicer places (sorry, Pitt fans, it's true. I'm from Cleveland. I know...). Most of those people stayed Pittsburgh fans. Seattle is more of a transient city with lots of people from other places (like me). They just don't have the hardcord fan base.

I guarantee there will be more Steelers fans at the SB but I don't think it'll be a big difference in the game.

pittsburgh$teelersfan
01-25-2006, 12:50 PM
I disagree. Hasselbeck is not a mobile QB, he will have relentless pressure the entire game. Matt Hasselbeck, please meet Troy Polamalu and Joey Porter. Oh, and you want to talk about adversity? Try beating the Broncos, Colts, and the Bungles on the road in the playoffs when NOBODY gave them a chance.


totally agree with you.

pittsburgh$teelersfan
01-25-2006, 01:02 PM
We didn't have our MVP rb when we beat the Foreskins. Save the excuses for after the Super Bowl....you're gonna need them. You guys better think of a good excuse now for why the Seahawks beat you in the Super Bowl. What will it be?

Steelers are going down and Bettis will wish he tried a little harder during the majority of his carreer and not waited till the very last year to go after a ring.....trust me...we'll exploit so many holes in your 3-4 defense that you all will go home crying....wondering how it all happend and where it all went so wrong. We'll show you the left as we run past you on the right. As you hold Alexander down to only 150 yards...we'll throw it to Stevens as he waits patiently in the endzone for another Seahawks touchdown!

Seahawks 31
Steelers 21

why are you even here go back to your dirty water sea chicken.

BlueTalon
01-25-2006, 01:30 PM
Hasselbeck is not a mobile QB, he will have relentless pressure the entire game. Matt Hasselbeck, please meet Troy Polamalu and Joey Porter.
totally agree with you.How on earth do you guys define "mobile"? If he's not Mike Vick, he's not mobile? Or is Big Ben the standard?

For the playoffs, the rushing stats are as follows:
Steelers vs. Bengals -- Big Ben, 4 attempts, 3 yards
Steelers vs. Colts -- Big Ben, 5 attempts, -3 yards
Steelers vs. Broncos -- Big Ben, 3 attempts, 12 yards (1 TD)

Seahawks vs. Redskins -- Hass, 6 attempts, 21 yards (1 TD)
Seahawks vs. Panthers -- Hass, 6 attempts, 27 yards

For the regular season:
Big Ben, 31 attempts, 61 yards
Hass, 36 attempts, 124 yards


I'm not trying to put Big Ben down at all, please understand, but I am completely mindboggled that you consider Matt Hasselbeck to be not a mobile QB, and I really want to know what you're using as a standard to come to your conclusion.

MNsteelers
01-25-2006, 01:55 PM
I'd like to start this off by saying that the Seahawks posters on this sight have been intelligent and incredibly classy. After being bombarded the last two weeks by Colts and Broncos fans, it's nice to see good fans making valid points to back up their theory of why their team will win.

You make some good points, but as Sports Guy said in his Picks column before the Championship games, the Steelers are just a team of destiny. Everything just falls in place for Pittsburgh. I just don't think Seattle has enough to keep Pittsburgh contained for four quarters. Seattle's offensive line is top-notch, no doubt, but just looking at other team's success against Pittsburgh up front...once again, Pittsburgh can't be stopped over four quarters. They will get in there, they will force Hasselback into a bad decision, and as it's been proved the last three weeks, Pittsburgh will make you pay.

I think it will be a good game, I'm extremely excited, not only because Pittsburgh is in the game, but we will only have to hear one or two comments about Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. I'm lookin' forward to it! 11 days is way too long....

Whidbey88
01-25-2006, 03:05 PM
I love the fact that the Seahawks are the underdog in this one. I think this is going to be a great game but at the end of the day we will have laid a smackdown on the Steeler and that despite that, every naysayer will keep right on blabbing about strength of schedule and how the Steelers were worn down from such a tough "road" schedule. Please - INDY sucks and is the most overrated team in the history of the NFL. Denver is OK and shows that Shanihan should be the coach of the year for taking an OK team to the AFC Championship. Beating the Pats, OK, that was impressive.

The one intangible I really like coming into this game is that after winning the AFC, the Steelers were popping corks, dumping water buckets and acting like they already won the Super Bowl. The Hawks were the opposite, no champagne, no water buckets and to a man after the game said, "we ain't won nothing yet."

GO HAWKS
SEA 34 PITT 23

seahawksfan
01-25-2006, 03:49 PM
I'd like to start this off by saying that the Seahawks posters on this sight have been intelligent and incredibly classy. After being bombarded the last two weeks by Colts and Broncos fans, it's nice to see good fans making valid points to back up their theory of why their team will win.

You make some good points, but as Sports Guy said in his Picks column before the Championship games, the Steelers are just a team of destiny. Everything just falls in place for Pittsburgh. I just don't think Seattle has enough to keep Pittsburgh contained for four quarters. Seattle's offensive line is top-notch, no doubt, but just looking at other team's success against Pittsburgh up front...once again, Pittsburgh can't be stopped over four quarters. They will get in there, they will force Hasselback into a bad decision, and as it's been proved the last three weeks, Pittsburgh will make you pay.

I think it will be a good game, I'm extremely excited, not only because Pittsburgh is in the game, but we will only have to hear one or two comments about Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. I'm lookin' forward to it! 11 days is way too long....

A significant reason for the Seahawks success is being the #1 scoring offense in the NFL. The Seahowks cannot be stopped over 4 quarters. Our defense has been better and better with every game, particularly over the last 4 games.

I believe our success will come down to Shaun getting his yardage so we can attach with a balanced offense. The key will be in the trenches. I like our O-line. The left side is steller, the best in the NFL. Center Tobeck is in the Pro Bowl as an alternate. Gray and Locklear are no slouches. Should be nasty in the pit!

clevestinks
01-25-2006, 04:00 PM
A significant reason for the Seahawks success is being the #1 scoring offense in the NFL. The Seahowks cannot be stopped over 4 quarters. Our defense has been better and better with every game, particularly over the last 4 games.

I believe our success will come down to Shaun getting his yardage so we can attach with a balanced offense. The key will be in the trenches. I like our O-line. The left side is steller, the best in the NFL. Center Tobeck is in the Pro Bowl as an alternate. Gray and Locklear are no slouches. Should be nasty in the pit!
We`ve also been really hot offensively the last 4 games, averaging around 30. And our style isn`t big scoring, the big scoring is just a plus. As far as stopping the hawks for 4 qrts. I wasn`t expecting a shut out anyway. Bend but don`t break! Indy had alot better O than you do, they couldn`t compete. The seahawks are a good NFC team, maybe great. I just don`t see them scoring more than 17, and they won`t be able to stop Ben from putting 30 on the scoreboard. Biased? of course, aren`t we all?

seahawksfan
01-25-2006, 04:06 PM
We`ve also been really hot offensively the last 4 games, averaging around 30. And our style isn`t big scoring, the big scoring is just a plus. As far as stopping the hawks for 4 qrts. I wasn`t expecting a shut out anyway. Bend but don`t break! Indy had alot better O than you do, they couldn`t compete. The seahawks are a good NFC team, maybe great. I just don`t see them scoring more than 17, and they won`t be able to stop Ben from putting 30 on the scoreboard. Biased? of course, aren`t we all?

Hey man, if you we wern't biased towards our respective teams this wouldn't be fun. BTW, my bias is bigger, badder, and stronger than your bias. :boxing: LOL...

clevestinks
01-25-2006, 04:15 PM
Hey man, if you we wern't biased towards our respective teams this wouldn't be fun. BTW, my bias is bigger, badder, and stronger than your bias. :boxing: LOL...
I wouldn`t go that far. I`m saving the good stuff for next week! This just enjoying all the talk shows, and all the Super Bowl talk. Needed a week to rest after seven straight playoff games. I`ll be honest living East Coastish, I`m just this week learning about the seahawks, I`m a NFL fan, but we really didn`t see much of your team.

bigger , stronger , and badder? if you only knew!

Justin Otstott
01-25-2006, 04:30 PM
Got it, but call it what it is: bad officiating and not a conspiracy. My primary point is that the Steelers made a horrid call when they decided to run the ball instead of sitting on it.

Not really! If we sat on the ball they would have most likely got the ball back...to much time was on the clock and they had timeouts! Bettis just didnt hold onto the ball that good and turned his back. They got lucky enough to even come back into the game. Have a Nice Day!

Justin Otstott
01-25-2006, 04:34 PM
How on earth do you guys define "mobile"? If he's not Mike Vick, he's not mobile? Or is Big Ben the standard?

For the playoffs, the rushing stats are as follows:
Steelers vs. Bengals -- Big Ben, 4 attempts, 3 yards
Steelers vs. Colts -- Big Ben, 5 attempts, -3 yards
Steelers vs. Broncos -- Big Ben, 3 attempts, 12 yards (1 TD)

Seahawks vs. Redskins -- Hass, 6 attempts, 21 yards (1 TD)
Seahawks vs. Panthers -- Hass, 6 attempts, 27 yards

For the regular season:
Big Ben, 31 attempts, 61 yards
Hass, 36 attempts, 124 yards


I'm not trying to put Big Ben down at all, please understand, but I am completely mindboggled that you consider Matt Hasselbeck to be not a mobile QB, and I really want to know what you're using as a standard to come to your conclusion.

Good job there with the stats....but ummm...that just tells me he was under attack and got lucky...plus his WR's must be...well....shit!

tony hipchest
01-25-2006, 04:52 PM
"A significant reason for the Seahawks success is being the #1 scoring offense in the NFL."

gil brandt discussed this today on sirius radio today. and i noticed that yesterday while looking at the seahawks schedule and who they scored the points against. (and they had many games where they scored alot.

in 10 games vs teams 6-10 or below seattle averaged 39 pts! whoa!
but in the 6 games vs. teams 7-9 or above that scoring output was cut in half to 20.

this is a very telling stat.(kind of like only 1 of the patriots 11 wins including playoffs came against a top 15 qb and they lost any time they played a pro bowl qb)

seahawks leading the league in sacks with 50 is very misleading. the steelers had 47 so about every 5 games the hawks would get 1 more sack than the steelers.

one stat i will throw out as a wash, but the one looking at the points they scored vs. which opponents deserves more examination.

louisvillecards
01-25-2006, 05:05 PM
We didn't have our MVP rb when we beat the Foreskins. Save the excuses for after the Super Bowl....you're gonna need them. You guys better think of a good excuse now for why the Seahawks beat you in the Super Bowl. What will it be?

Steelers are going down and Bettis will wish he tried a little harder during the majority of his carreer and not waited till the very last year to go after a ring.....trust me...we'll exploit so many holes in your 3-4 defense that you all will go home crying....wondering how it all happend and where it all went so wrong. We'll show you the left as we run past you on the right. As you hold Alexander down to only 150 yards...we'll throw it to Stevens as he waits patiently in the endzone for another Seahawks touchdown!

Seahawks 31
Steelers 21
if they get beat you will never see or hear from him again he will not come back here and congratulate or eat his crow reminds me of some people on the bunghole msg board after we handed their heads to them i went back there for 2 weeks and they were gone for good no sign of them at all:blah:

lotas
01-25-2006, 05:35 PM
You make a good point about The Bus vs. Mack. Still, Mack is our "Bus" and we love him for all he's given to the team over 13 years. Props to Bettis for the yardage he's gained.

Don't nit pick where and when I introduced the ref issue. It's central to my comment that ref's can affect games unintentionally. The ONLY comparison made was as it relates to the ref's actions during the respective games.
Sorry, wasn't trying to go through your posts with a magnifying glass, that was just the first one i came upon when looking back and so I used it, wasnt try to move your words around or anything.

Yeah I know how you feel about Mack, most teams have a player like that, who cracks away at it everyweek and gets no recognition for the years and years they have been on the team. Its sad, but at least us true fans can recognize them and appreciate them for what they're worth.

BlueTalon
01-25-2006, 11:39 PM
For the playoffs, the rushing stats are as follows:
Steelers vs. Bengals -- Big Ben, 4 attempts, 3 yards
Steelers vs. Colts -- Big Ben, 5 attempts, -3 yards
Steelers vs. Broncos -- Big Ben, 3 attempts, 12 yards (1 TD)

Seahawks vs. Redskins -- Hass, 6 attempts, 21 yards (1 TD)
Seahawks vs. Panthers -- Hass, 6 attempts, 27 yards

For the regular season:
Big Ben, 31 attempts, 61 yards
Hass, 36 attempts, 124 yardsGood job there with the stats....but ummm...that just tells me he was under attack and got lucky...plus his WR's must be...well....shit!That's some interesting logic you have there, did you learn that in school?

Normally I would look at stats like that and conclude that Hasselbeck is perhaps a bit more mobile than Big Ben. But looking at them through the prism of your logic, I can now see that Steelers receivers are... well... shit. (FYI, two of our top receivers were out with injuries for much of the season. What's your excuse?)


For those of you with fully functional synapses and more than six working brain cells, I respect the Steelers' receivers. I was merely following brainiac's paradigm to its logical illogical conclusion.

WWIIOwheelz
01-26-2006, 12:29 AM
I'm not about taunting the opposition, but with all due respect, the NFC is primarily offense-oriented, not unlike college football. I have a great buddy in Seattle who moved out there during the dot.com boom who's originally from Columbus, Ohio, and he loves Ohio State football, college football in general. All that scoring just DISGUSTS me. What could the defense possibly be doing?

We've talked about that a lot, and the determination I came to was that excellent defensive talent is more rare than offensive talent, and harder to spot. That's how I think about football in general, and the Steelers always have. Still do.

Enter Big Ben. Suddenly we have a football team that puts up crazy numbers week after week, and no longer do we have to hold teams to 10 points or less to expect a win. As a long-time fan, I'm giddy about it, but it still feels weird! :jammin:

Ledainian Tomlinson. Edgarin James. Rudi Johnson. 3 of the best running backs in the league, all having superstar quarterbacks to make their jobs easier. The Steelers totally, TOTALLY shut them down, and their passing games also. Just like always, Steel Curtain. But... we don't have to absolutely depend on our defense to play stellar any longer. This Steeler team puts points on the board! I guess I'm still shaking out the cobwebs of O'Donnell & Maddox, but I'm starting to feel better.

The difference between now & years past is that before, we were silently praying for good fortune. This year, we are coming at ya.

seahawksfan
01-26-2006, 12:45 AM
I'm not about taunting the opposition, but with all due respect, the NFC is primarily offense-oriented, not unlike college football. I have a great buddy in Seattle who moved out there during the dot.com boom who's originally from Columbus, Ohio, and he loves Ohio State football, college football in general. All that scoring just DISGUSTS me. What could the defense possibly be doing?

We've talked about that a lot, and the determination I came to was that excellent defensive talent is more rare than offensive talent, and harder to spot. That's how I think about football in general, and the Steelers always have. Still do.

Enter Big Ben. Suddenly we have a football team that puts up crazy numbers week after week, and no longer do we have to hold teams to 10 points or less to expect a win. As a long-time fan, I'm giddy about it, but it still feels weird! :jammin:

Ledainian Tomlinson. Edgarin James. Rudi Johnson. 3 of the best running backs in the league, all having superstar quarterbacks to make their jobs easier. The Steelers totally, TOTALLY shut them down, and their passing games also. Just like always, Steel Curtain. But... we don't have to absolutely depend on our defense to play stellar any longer. This Steeler team puts points on the board! I guess I'm still shaking out the cobwebs of O'Donnell & Maddox, but I'm starting to feel better.

The difference between now & years past is that before, we were silently praying for good fortune. This year, we are coming at ya.

I agree regarding the defense getting second thoughts affter offense. This is a factor in how the Seattle defense is viewed. It's really come of aqe. It's been a weak part of the team until this year. Each game we've gotten better and better. Today, our rookie MLB weas added to the Pro Bowl. More important than statistics, schedule strength, etc., is great chemistry. This team has it in spades and it will be a force on 2/5.

seahawksfan
01-26-2006, 12:48 AM
Not really! If we sat on the ball they would have most likely got the ball back...to much time was on the clock and they had timeouts! Bettis just didnt hold onto the ball that good and turned his back. They got lucky enough to even come back into the game. Have a Nice Day!

There is a bit of luck in very game. The best laid plans of mice and men. A funble at the goal line, a missed field goal, lousy officiating. It's what makes this game so friggin crazy. I'm a pretty conservative game caller and despite the time remaining on the clock would have handed it to the Steeler defense. It was performing really well.

SunDevilSteeler
01-26-2006, 01:03 AM
Solomon W and Shannon S on Playbook tonight highlighted the rather 'light' Seattle DE's. They surmise that the Steelers will exploit them with running plays to the edges. They especially noted that Wistrom is susceptable to being run at. And if Seattle moves a Safety into the box, Ben will see lots of holes. All in all, these two former pros agreed that the Seattle DC is probably more than a bit worried about stopping the Pittsburgh O.

My own analysis of the NFC CG is that Seattle got a TON of pressure on Jake D with just the 4 linemen and played a lot of zone. Their LB were 10-15 yards downfield by the time Carolina's QB completed his drop, and there were no throwing lanes. I do not see this strategy working against Pitt. Hence, my question to the Seahawks fans is this. What blitz packages does Seattle run when their D line is not applying sufficient pressure?

Seattle must put consistent pressure on Ben or he will eat the Seahawks secondary alive, especially down the seams with the TE and the out routs to the WR's.

BlueTalon
01-26-2006, 10:17 AM
Solomon W and Shannon S on Playbook tonight highlighted the rather 'light' Seattle DE's. They surmise that the Steelers will exploit them with running plays to the edges. They especially noted that Wistrom is susceptable to being run at. And if Seattle moves a Safety into the box, Ben will see lots of holes. All in all, these two former pros agreed that the Seattle DC is probably more than a bit worried about stopping the Pittsburgh O.

My own analysis of the NFC CG is that Seattle got a TON of pressure on Jake D with just the 4 linemen and played a lot of zone. Their LB were 10-15 yards downfield by the time Carolina's QB completed his drop, and there were no throwing lanes. I do not see this strategy working against Pitt. Hence, my question to the Seahawks fans is this. What blitz packages does Seattle run when their D line is not applying sufficient pressure?

Seattle must put consistent pressure on Ben or he will eat the Seahawks secondary alive, especially down the seams with the TE and the out routs to the WR's.That's a very good question, and I have no idea. The only thing I can predict with any degree of certainty is that much of it will be new. What you saw on defense (a new scheme with specific goals in mind) was the result of a LOT of film study and game planning, and their approach to Pittsburgh will be no different.

Seahawk76
01-26-2006, 11:31 AM
Solomon W and Shannon S on Playbook tonight highlighted the rather 'light' Seattle DE's. They surmise that the Steelers will exploit them with running plays to the edges. They especially noted that Wistrom is susceptable to being run at. And if Seattle moves a Safety into the box, Ben will see lots of holes. All in all, these two former pros agreed that the Seattle DC is probably more than a bit worried about stopping the Pittsburgh O.

My own analysis of the NFC CG is that Seattle got a TON of pressure on Jake D with just the 4 linemen and played a lot of zone. Their LB were 10-15 yards downfield by the time Carolina's QB completed his drop, and there were no throwing lanes. I do not see this strategy working against Pitt. Hence, my question to the Seahawks fans is this. What blitz packages does Seattle run when their D line is not applying sufficient pressure?

Seattle must put consistent pressure on Ben or he will eat the Seahawks secondary alive, especially down the seams with the TE and the out routs to the WR's.

The front four is pretty good at putting pressure on the QB but when the Seahawks blitz they'll usually bring linebackers Hill or Tatupu who had 11.5 sacks between them. They might occasionally bring a safety or CB but not a lot.

whatsyurprob
01-26-2006, 11:48 AM
To tell U the truth, , the SEAHAWKS have gotten pressure all year with using just the four down linemen. Just ask Jake, Vick, Bledsoe, Brunell, Bulger, or both Manning' .


TOUCHDOWN SEAHAWKS

Justin Otstott
01-26-2006, 01:25 PM
That's some interesting logic you have there, did you learn that in school?

Normally I would look at stats like that and conclude that Hasselbeck is perhaps a bit more mobile than Big Ben. But looking at them through the prism of your logic, I can now see that Steelers receivers are... well... shit. (FYI, two of our top receivers were out with injuries for much of the season. What's your excuse?)


For those of you with fully functional synapses and more than six working brain cells, I respect the Steelers' receivers. I was merely following brainiac's paradigm to its logical illogical conclusion.

Good to see you know big words buddy! Congrats man, everybody clap for this guy! I love these people. Yea maybe I did learn that in school. Yea are receivers are shit...yea! Nice.

seahawksfan
01-26-2006, 02:12 PM
Good to see you know big words buddy! Congrats man, everybody clap for this guy! I love these people. Yea maybe I did learn that in school. Yea are receivers are shit...yea! Nice.

What? Is that all you can bring? :bringit:

Suitanim
01-26-2006, 03:27 PM
Got it, but call it what it is: bad officiating and not a conspiracy. My primary point is that the Steelers made a horrid call when they decided to run the ball instead of sitting on it.

I'm gonna jump back in right about here. There are several fallacies in the second sentence. The Steelers had the Colts reeling, and were about to deliver the knockout blow. Bettis hadn't given away a fumble all year, and, without looking it up, I'd speculate that he probably has one of the best carry/fumble ratio's of any NFL RB. Also, by attempting to deliver that KO, Cowher was continuing his aggressive "Play to win" gameplan, the same gameplan that got the Steelers into the position to be able to deliver that knockout blow in the first place. It was also too early to take a knee, as the Colts would have taken over on downs with time on the clock, and a FG would not have salted the game away.

It was the right call, to the right guy, at the right time, and a freak play ensued. 99 out of 100 times a fumble isn't the outcome, so saying it was a horrid call is betting on very, VERY long odds.

seahawksfan
01-26-2006, 05:15 PM
I'm gonna jump back in right about here. There are several fallacies in the second sentence. The Steelers had the Colts reeling, and were about to deliver the knockout blow. Bettis hadn't given away a fumble all year, and, without looking it up, I'd speculate that he probably has one of the best carry/fumble ratio's of any NFL RB. Also, by attempting to deliver that KO, Cowher was continuing his aggressive "Play to win" gameplan, the same gameplan that got the Steelers into the position to be able to deliver that knockout blow in the first place. It was also too early to take a knee, as the Colts would have taken over on downs with time on the clock, and a FG would not have salted the game away.

It was the right call, to the right guy, at the right time, and a freak play ensued. 99 out of 100 times a fumble isn't the outcome, so saying it was a horrid call is betting on very, VERY long odds.

Actually, I was betting on a strong defense to take the game to conclusion. Maybe Cowher doesn't have faith in his D-unit?

Suitanim
01-26-2006, 05:37 PM
Actually, I was betting on a strong defense to take the game to conclusion. Maybe Cowher doesn't have faith in his D-unit?

You and your team will find out all about our defense in due time. You aren't in the NFC anymore, Toto...

tony hipchest
01-26-2006, 05:54 PM
Actually, I was betting on a strong defense to take the game to conclusion. Maybe Cowher doesn't have faith in his D-unit?

please tell me this is a joke. he lets polamalu freelance and line up wherever he wants to as long as he is where he should be when he should be after the snap. he replaces hampton with kirschke dropping him in coverage and rushing from the outside with farrior. he lines up porter at defensive end. blitzes with 4 linebackers while dropping the 3 linemen into coverage. he has left 1st year starter i. taylor on an island covering the likes of c. johnson and m. harrison. him and lebeau love this defense and have full faith and trust in its capabilities. the players in return have full trust in what is being called and why. (you notice i. taylor hasnt let anyone get by him deep since marivns 80 yd catch?)

bmovierat
01-26-2006, 05:57 PM
Actually, I was betting on a strong defense to take the game to conclusion. Maybe Cowher doesn't have faith in his D-unit?

I'm sure Cowher did have faith in the D, but this is Peyton Manning we're talking about. Why down the ball, and give it back to the colts with probably nearly a minute left on the clock? Why not try to get a TD? Afterall the steelers were on the 2 yard line and 99 times out of 100, bettis will hold onto the ball.

seahawksfan
01-26-2006, 06:55 PM
please tell me this is a joke. he lets polamalu freelance and line up wherever he wants to as long as he is where he should be when he should be after the snap. he replaces hampton with kirschke dropping him in coverage and rushing from the outside with farrior. he lines up porter at defensive end. blitzes with 4 linebackers while dropping the 3 linemen into coverage. he has left 1st year starter i. taylor on an island covering the likes of c. johnson and m. harrison. him and lebeau love this defense and have full faith and trust in its capabilities. the players in return have full trust in what is being called and why. (you notice i. taylor hasnt let anyone get by him deep since marivns 80 yd catch?)

I was curious to see what you guys thought about my take...Just some smack to rile it up... :trash:

SteelCityMan786
01-26-2006, 07:12 PM
ATTENTION MODERATORS! I think this thread needs to go the Blast Furnace.

seahawksfan
01-26-2006, 11:32 PM
ATTENTION MODERATORS! I think this thread needs to go the Blast Furnace.

Sorry to have upset you. I didn't see this thread as being redolent with smackedness. :dang:

Justin Otstott
01-27-2006, 08:19 AM
lol yet I agree this should be in the other forum. :)

clevestinks
01-27-2006, 02:31 PM
Still to early for smack! I actually enjoy some of the new seahawks fans here, I really don`t know much about their team. And some of these guys seem knowledgable and die hards.
But starting Monday, its on!

seahawksfan
01-27-2006, 03:16 PM
Still to early for smack! I actually enjoy some of the new seahawks fans here, I really don`t know much about their team. And some of these guys seem knowledgable and die hards.
But starting Monday, its on!


Yeehaa! Can't wait until next week. :bash: