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frankvctr
11-24-2009, 11:14 AM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/296121-semi-random-musings-through-ten-games

by Joseph Sirimarco

Monday Night Football , Tennessee vs. Houston, and 12:50 remaining in the second quarter.

Tennessee kicks off after a touchdown. The Houston kick returner finds a seam in the coverage, accelerates into the open and races up field, with one Houston player to beat. The player launches himself into the returner and makes the tackle, saving a sure touchdown.

The player? Rob Bironas, the Tennessee kicker.

So, Jeff Reed, are you a football player? Do you wear the uniform on game days? Are you sent on the field to play?

Then shut up and make a tackle!

That goes for you, too, Tomlin and Ligashesky. If your precious china doll kicker makes two tackles, your team is 8-2 and in command of the division, so don't tell me Jeff Reed is not supposed to make tackles.

Oh, by the way, who was the player whom the Steelers brought into training camp in 2004 to compete for the kicker's job, eventually losing to incumbent Jeff Reed?

Yes, that's right, Rob Bironas.



From Peter King on SI.com , commenting on the reasons that Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rogers has been sacked so many times this season:

First eight games: 37 sacks, five interceptions.

Last two games: six sacks, no interceptions.

There's no question Rodgers was simply holding onto the ball too long, and his leaky offensive line—particularly at right tackle—was getting him bowled over.

"We've been working on the three variables [for sacks]," coach Mike McCarthy said after the Pack beat San Francisco 30-24. Protection, Rodgers' internal clock, and running enough quick-opening patterns that Rodgers always has an open one to choose from when the pressure comes.

Against Dallas last week and the 49ers Sunday, he looked more comfortable and maybe a tick faster. "His time clock's been excellent," McCarthy said, "and he's responded really well to coaching, which he always has done."

R odgers has been a 70-percent passer over the past two weeks. His play in the last eight quarters is a good example of how during the season players can polish facets of their games that need to be fixed, or else the season's going up in smoke.

The Steelers are seeing more and more pressure on Roethlisberger, and he's going to have to quicken his delivery in the pocket or he won't last 16 games. Rodgers did it just by knowing he had to make decisions faster, and that time savings might help save Green Bay's season.



Are you listening, Bruce Arians? He said, "...running enough quick-opening patterns that Rodgers always has an open one to choose from when the pressure comes."

Does Ben respond well to coaching? Does Ben have a good internal time clock? Do you think Ben might like to have a quick-opening option when the pressure comes? Like on the last possession against Cincinnati, or in the second half and overtime against Kansas City?

When Stefan Logan fumbles, Mike Tomlin removes him from the kick return team. When Rashard Mendenhall fumbles or "doesn't know his details," Tomlin removes him from the offense or from the active roster on game day. When Arnold Harrison misses a tackle on kick coverage, Tomlin removes him from the team altogether.

Has anyone noticed that Tomlin doesn't hold his offensive coordinator and special teams coaches to the same standard?

Can the Steelers lose even one more game and still make the playoffs?

What is a "concussion-oriented" injury? Could this be what Bruce Arians is suffering from?

So the kicker is not supposed to make tackles? I wonder what Jack Lambert would think. Maybe something like: "If kickers aren't supposed to make tackles, then they should wear pink tutus, tights and slippers so that we know who they are."

Tyrone Carter said that the secondary didn't get the defensive call from the sideline before the decisive play, a 61-yard pass to Chris Chambers, in overtime against Kansas City. Why didn't he or someone else call a timeout?

The Steelers defense has given up 13 touchdowns in 10 games, despite missing Troy Polamalu for six of those games. Say what you want about the defense, but don't say they aren't playing championship-caliber football.

fansince'76
11-24-2009, 11:23 AM
Oh, by the way, who was the player whom the Steelers brought into training camp in 2004 to compete for the kicker's job, eventually losing to incumbent Jeff Reed?

Yes, that's right, Rob Bironas.

Yep, the same Rob Bironas who missed two FGs opening day in Heinz Field costing the Titans the game. :coffee:

Steelers>NFL
11-24-2009, 12:16 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/296121-semi-random-musings-through-ten-games

by Joseph Sirimarco

Monday Night Football , Tennessee vs. Houston, and 12:50 remaining in the second quarter.

Tennessee kicks off after a touchdown. The Houston kick returner finds a seam in the coverage, accelerates into the open and races up field, with one Houston player to beat. The player launches himself into the returner and makes the tackle, saving a sure touchdown.

The player? Rob Bironas, the Tennessee kicker.

So, Jeff Reed, are you a football player? Do you wear the uniform on game days? Are you sent on the field to play?

Then shut up and make a tackle!

That goes for you, too, Tomlin and Ligashesky. If your precious china doll kicker makes two tackles, your team is 8-2 and in command of the division, so don't tell me Jeff Reed is not supposed to make tackles.

Oh, by the way, who was the player whom the Steelers brought into training camp in 2004 to compete for the kicker's job, eventually losing to incumbent Jeff Reed?

Yes, that's right, Rob Bironas.



From Peter King on SI.com , commenting on the reasons that Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rogers has been sacked so many times this season:

First eight games: 37 sacks, five interceptions.

Last two games: six sacks, no interceptions.

There's no question Rodgers was simply holding onto the ball too long, and his leaky offensive line—particularly at right tackle—was getting him bowled over.

"We've been working on the three variables [for sacks]," coach Mike McCarthy said after the Pack beat San Francisco 30-24. Protection, Rodgers' internal clock, and running enough quick-opening patterns that Rodgers always has an open one to choose from when the pressure comes.

Against Dallas last week and the 49ers Sunday, he looked more comfortable and maybe a tick faster. "His time clock's been excellent," McCarthy said, "and he's responded really well to coaching, which he always has done."

R odgers has been a 70-percent passer over the past two weeks. His play in the last eight quarters is a good example of how during the season players can polish facets of their games that need to be fixed, or else the season's going up in smoke.

The Steelers are seeing more and more pressure on Roethlisberger, and he's going to have to quicken his delivery in the pocket or he won't last 16 games. Rodgers did it just by knowing he had to make decisions faster, and that time savings might help save Green Bay's season.



Are you listening, Bruce Arians? He said, "...running enough quick-opening patterns that Rodgers always has an open one to choose from when the pressure comes."

Does Ben respond well to coaching? Does Ben have a good internal time clock? Do you think Ben might like to have a quick-opening option when the pressure comes? Like on the last possession against Cincinnati, or in the second half and overtime against Kansas City?

When Stefan Logan fumbles, Mike Tomlin removes him from the kick return team. When Rashard Mendenhall fumbles or "doesn't know his details," Tomlin removes him from the offense or from the active roster on game day. When Arnold Harrison misses a tackle on kick coverage, Tomlin removes him from the team altogether.

Has anyone noticed that Tomlin doesn't hold his offensive coordinator and special teams coaches to the same standard?

Can the Steelers lose even one more game and still make the playoffs?

What is a "concussion-oriented" injury? Could this be what Bruce Arians is suffering from?

So the kicker is not supposed to make tackles? I wonder what Jack Lambert would think. Maybe something like: "If kickers aren't supposed to make tackles, then they should wear pink tutus, tights and slippers so that we know who they are."

Tyrone Carter said that the secondary didn't get the defensive call from the sideline before the decisive play, a 61-yard pass to Chris Chambers, in overtime against Kansas City. Why didn't he or someone else call a timeout?

The Steelers defense has given up 13 touchdowns in 10 games, despite missing Troy Polamalu for six of those games. Say what you want about the defense, but don't say they aren't playing championship-caliber football.
WOW! Guy tells it like it is. Can't deny that.

devilsdancefloor
11-24-2009, 12:18 PM
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MACH1
11-24-2009, 12:30 PM
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revefsreleets
11-24-2009, 12:51 PM
There's a reason this guy is just some blogger...

There's the classic lazy and ignorant "blame Arians" nonsense, and, a NEW one....Rob Bironas >>> Jeff Reed.

Wait...really? Now kicking takes a backseat to making tackles? And we should have picked a guy who has a lousy history of kicking in our stadium over the only guy who actually CAN? If only we'd have selected Bironas instead, Gosh, all our problems would be solved.:rofl:

Maybe we should draft a new QB, one who hands the ball off really well? Who cares if he can pass, that's less important than handing the ball off....

Silly...

fansince'76
11-24-2009, 12:55 PM
There's a reason this guy is just some blogger...

There's the classic lazy and ignorant "blame Arians" nonsense, and, a NEW one....Rob Bironas >>> Jeff Reed.

Wait...really? Now kicking takes a backseat to making tackles? And we should have picked a guy who has a lousy history of kicking in our stadium over the only guy who actually CAN? If only we'd have selected Bironas instead, Gosh, all our problems would be solved.:rofl:

Maybe we should draft a new QB, one who hands the ball off really well? Who cares if he can pass, that's less important than handing the ball off....

Silly...

You forgot the worn and tired "Ben holds on to the ball too long" gripe - that one was in there as well. But hey, Rodgers is getting rid of it faster, and he's got a 70% completion rate over the last two games (never mind Ben has been at about 70% all damn YEAR). Just another idiot blogger.

dcsteel5804
11-24-2009, 01:30 PM
Yep, the same Rob Bironas who missed two FGs opening day in Heinz Field costing the Titans the game. :coffee:

The last I checked, Reed has failed to make two tackles on returns that, had he put even minimal effort to make, the Steelers win the game or at least have a better shot. Also, I do seem to remember Reed blowing some field goal attempts in the Bears game, which we lost. As a Steelers fan, I'd rather have a kicker who acts like a football player and not ferry princess panzy, but that's just me. Maybe some people prefer those who make excuses instead of tackles.

MACH1
11-24-2009, 01:32 PM
The last I checked, Reed has failed to make two tackles on returns that, had he put even minimal effort to make, the Steelers win the game or at least have a better shot. Also, I do seem to remember Reed blowing some field goal attempts in the Bears game, which we lost. As a Steelers fan, I'd rather have a kicker who acts like a football player and not ferry princess panzy, but that's just me. Maybe some people prefer those who make excuses instead of tackles.

There we go....Lets get a kicker who's better at tackling than kicking. :doh:

fansince'76
11-24-2009, 01:36 PM
The last I checked, Reed has failed to make two tackles on returns that, had he put even minimal effort to make, the Steelers win the game or at least have a better shot. Also, I do seem to remember Reed blowing some field goal attempts in the Bears game, which we lost. As a Steelers fan, I'd rather have a kicker who acts like a football player and not ferry princess panzy, but that's just me. Maybe some people prefer those who make excuses instead of tackles.

No, I want a PK who can actually make a FG reliably in Heinz, seeing as we play at least 8 games a year there, but that's just me. Bironas can't, and he proved that amply on opening day this year, and it's probably the most likely reason why he was unable to supplant Reed for the job in '04. Seems maybe some people prefer to blame the PK for the failure of the unit as a whole. It's a lot easier to just scapegoat one person, after all.

Christian Snyder
11-24-2009, 01:36 PM
The last I checked, Reed has failed to make two tackles on returns that, had he put even minimal effort to make, the Steelers win the game or at least have a better shot. Also, I do seem to remember Reed blowing some field goal attempts in the Bears game, which we lost. As a Steelers fan, I'd rather have a kicker who acts like a football player and not ferry princess panzy, but that's just me. Maybe some people prefer those who make excuses instead of tackles.
I'm getting so sick & tired of these Jeff Reed sucks posts... I don't even feel like replying to them anymore.:banging:


In other words, you bore me. :yawn: