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Infamix
01-24-2006, 09:56 PM
I got in an argument with my friend the other day when I said "We finally made it to the Superbowl." He replied with, "Are you on the roster?". Whats your opinion on this, is it ok for fans to talk like they are part of the team?

BlueTalon
01-24-2006, 10:00 PM
I think it's perfectly fine. Especially in a context like this. We're going to... you'll never...


If that ever happens again, where someone asks if you're on the roster, just immediately ask "are you a fan?"

seahawksfan
01-24-2006, 10:00 PM
I got in an argument with my friend the other day when I said "We finally made it to the Superbowl." He replied with, "Are you on the roster?". Whats your opinion on this, is it ok for fans to talk like they are part of the team?

It's all good. Heck, it's the emotion that fuels much of the smack on team message boards. Identities blur as emotion and passion take over.

CantStop85
01-24-2006, 10:02 PM
I've debated this many times in my mind. I prefer to not refer to myself as part of a team when I'm not really on the roster. It sounds like I'm speaking on behalf of the team itself. That being said, I have no problems with other people saying it...that is unless they get a little carried away and start sounding like they're really a member of the team. Then it gets a bit annoying.

Koopa
01-24-2006, 10:03 PM
i think it's fine, because we are just as much a part of the team, without the fans the team is nothing. real fans don't come and go like players and coaches do, we pretty much pay their salaries by buying tickets and shit like that. that's why i think it's fine to for us fans to say we or us

BlitzburghRockCity
01-24-2006, 10:20 PM
To me, Ive known nothing else but We, Us, We're, when referring to my beloved Black n Gold. The fans are as much as part of the team as the players in a matter of speaking. Without the fans there would be no money to pay players to perform..and without players there would be nothing to support.

Anytime its Steelers talk, it will always be WE... as far as Im concerned.

drizze99
01-24-2006, 10:24 PM
I have debated this with many people and I think it's perfectly fine.

DIESELMAN
01-24-2006, 10:27 PM
Its natural to say WE and US especially when you are a diehard fan....fans always have been and always will be a part of the game.....when someone questions it... don't sweat it...as long as you believe in saying it...:helmet:

24seven
01-24-2006, 10:51 PM
Its funny i was just reading another thread and about commented on someone over using the term us and we.. Then i see this post hehe.. Personally I constantly say us.. we.. etc as I feel I'm a part of the spirit that is the Pittsburgh Steelers. they've been a part of my life for so long I feel as if i know these guys personally. That's why it's gonna suck to not see Bettis as he's been like a brother to me.. Always there smiling big and highsteppin after that first down.. I just can't help to say WE are gonna win the SUPER BOWL and you can join US in Detroit to see it happen!

Hawkswin
01-24-2006, 11:45 PM
I try not to say it, but 25 years as a Seahawks fan and I slip pretty often. I've found that football fans tend to identify more with the team and say we and us often. Baseball fans, on the other hand, tend to be very anal about that sort of thing. Different mentality, even among fans of both sports. I've seen guys get reamed on baseball forums for talking about their team using "we".

rowedf
01-24-2006, 11:51 PM
I'm pretty blunt on this topic (ya, go figure lol) but when someone says that "are you on the roster" it reminds me of the kids who were never in "on the team" or never were into the sports scenes, it always irritated the crap outta me when people pull that card! When you embrace a team, you EMBRACE them, you speak of them as "we", "us", etc ... If you don't have a passion for it, fine, go paint a picture or something, but leave us alone!

Also, don't forget, when it comes to Professional sports, fans play a huge role in the team, no fans = no team, so their role should not be underestimated.

melroseplace
01-25-2006, 09:08 AM
I always say "we" and "us"...I'm as emotionally invested in this team as you can be without actually playing the game. I watch the games, press conferences, have met quite a few of the guys and I am a die-hard fan. if they lose, I lose...if they win, I win. simple as that :)

BlackNGold203
01-25-2006, 09:18 AM
Fans have a vested interest in their teams...both financially (tickets, mechandise), and emotionally. Perhaps there is no better example than Pittsburgh, where the population (both local and displaced) live, die, and often created a unified bond in terms of their identities with their teams. what I feel is unique with the Steelers is..the team has a deep seated understanding of the effect they have on their fans. They embrace this responsibility.

So...YES...refer to them as YOUR team...speak about how WE are going to the Super Bowl.
At least in Pittsburgh...this is accepted as the way of things...both by the community...and the team.

SteelerFanInATL
01-25-2006, 09:22 AM
I got in an argument with my friend the other day when I said "We finally made it to the Superbowl." He replied with, "Are you on the roster?". Whats your opinion on this, is it ok for fans to talk like they are part of the team?


That sounds like a whole lot of H A T E IMO. Anyone who says we and us are serious fans
because they are so much into that team that consider themselves part of the team. I wonder what team he follows. They probably didn't even make the playoffs. (LOL)

Infamix
01-25-2006, 09:33 AM
That sounds like a whole lot of H A T E IMO. Anyone who says we and us are serious fans
because they are so much into that team that consider themselves part of the team. I wonder what team he follows. They probably didn't even make the playoffs. (LOL)

good call man hes an eagles fan haha

Milkman
01-25-2006, 10:23 AM
I have no problems with the "we" and "us" talk when referring to a persons favorite team.

Don't sweat it when someone asks if you are on the payroll. :yeehaw:

SalukiSteelers
01-25-2006, 10:24 AM
I don't say "we" but I don't really have a problem with fans who do use it. I know that I'm happy when the Steelers win and not happy when they lose. I know I spend money on the team. I know my buddies run smack when the Steelers lose. All of these reasons, and many more, are why I don't give a rip about "we."

SteelCityPride
01-25-2006, 10:36 AM
I dont even know why someone would care soo much as to argue a stupid little point like this. First off, who cares if you say We or our? That just shows you identifying yourself with a team which is fine. For someone to have nothing better than to come back on saying it isnt right to talk like that should probably go get a life. That would just annoy me beyond belief. Maybe they never played team sports before or grasp the team concept, maybe they dont care so dearly about "their" team. Who cares, why does it matter. I love "MY" steelers.

83-Steelers-43
01-25-2006, 10:39 AM
Personally, I say "we" or "us". Between paying for season tickets (the team salary) and Steeler merchandise, I think I have that option. If you don't pay for season tickets, you still support the team and without the fans the team does not exist. We should consider the Steelers as "us".

RoethlisBURGHer
01-25-2006, 11:09 AM
It's fine,why do you think they always refer to the fans as the "12th Man"?Without the fans,there wouldn't be sports.

Brady12
01-25-2006, 11:22 AM
It's one of the 20 rules of True Sports Fans by Bill Simmons..

Behavior
7. Be very careful when using the word "We" with your favorite team. Use it judiciously. Just remember, you don't wear a uniform, you don't play any minutes, and you're not on the team. And yes, this was an extremely tough line for me to straddle during the Patriots' Super Bowl run.

PisnNapalm
01-25-2006, 11:22 AM
I have no problems with the "we" and "us" talk when referring to a persons favorite team.

Don't sweat it when someone asks if you are on the payroll. :yeehaw:

I'm not on the payroll, but I do my part to FINANCE it!! LOL!! (I probably spent $400 or more in apparel in the last 3 months.)

I've always said WE, US, etc... I am the 12th man. I am a Steeler fan.

seahawksfan
01-25-2006, 11:23 AM
Fans have a vested interest in their teams...both financially (tickets, mechandise), and emotionally. Perhaps there is no better example than Pittsburgh, where the population (both local and displaced) live, die, and often created a unified bond in terms of their identities with their teams. what I feel is unique with the Steelers is..the team has a deep seated understanding of the effect they have on their fans. They embrace this responsibility.

So...YES...refer to them as YOUR team...speak about how WE are going to the Super Bowl.
At least in Pittsburgh...this is accepted as the way of things...both by the community...and the team.

This is also the accepted practice in Seattle. The Seahawks, like the Steelers, understand their relationship and affect on the fans. There's a reason why they coined the 12th man phrase back in the Kingdome days (the toughest place for a visiting team) and retired number 12 in tribute to the fanbase. At every home game a 12th man flag is raised by someone inspirational who then rallies the fans into a long and sustained cheer.

Pittsburgh is lucky to have a similiar relationship with the team.

PisnNapalm
01-25-2006, 11:42 AM
This is also the accepted practice in Seattle. The Seahawks, like the Steelers, understand their relationship and affect on the fans. There's a reason why they coined the 12th man phrase back in the Kingdome days (the toughest place for a visiting team) and retired number 12 in tribute to the fanbase. At every home game a 12th man flag is raised by someone inspirational who then rallies the fans into a long and sustained cheer.

Pittsburgh is lucky to have a similiar relationship with the team.


I did not know that about the Seahawks. Very cool of them to honor their fans that way. My hats of to them for that. :cool:

Brady12
01-25-2006, 11:48 AM
It's like the New York Rangers going to center ice, and raising their sticks to salute their fans at their home games. Someone told me it's only for wins, not sure on that.

BlueTalon
01-25-2006, 11:53 AM
I did not know that about the Seahawks. Very cool of them to honor their fans that way. My hats of to them for that. :cool:Yep! That's why, when they show picture of the stands during the games, that you see so many people wearing #12 jerseys. It's not because any player has that number, it's because it's OUR number!

Hawkswin
01-25-2006, 11:54 AM
The number 12 has never been worn by a Seahawk player. They retired that number way back in 1984 for the fans, when we ran our own 3-4 defense under Ground Chuck. That was a good defense, with Joe Nash and Jacob Green... and the hardest hitting safety ever, Kenny Easley.

The other thing Seattle contributed to football: the wave. I'll apologize on behalf of the city for that one. :)

BlueTalon
01-25-2006, 12:10 PM
The number 12 has never been worn by a Seahawk player. Actually, that's not true. Back in the very beginning, during the Jim Zorn days, Sam Adkins wore #12. I think he was with the team for 4 years (as a player. I don't know if he was ever a part of the staff, but I know he does broadcasting for them now.)

I love your reminder of the 84 Seahawks -- that was the finest era of Seahawk history until this year. I loved those guys!

Hawkswin
01-25-2006, 12:18 PM
Oh damn... forgot about Sam Adkins. Still, the rest is true! :D

pitt
01-25-2006, 12:36 PM
I've had this same arguement with my husband. I say "we" and he says not do it. Well I'm going to continue to say "we" and I don't really care who likes it.

MNsteelers
01-25-2006, 12:36 PM
I buy the jerseys, wave the towel, read every article across the country, know the roster backwards and forwards, study their offense, defense and special teams, work my life around their schedule, argue with anyone telling me Pittsburgh isn't the better team going into this game....If that doesn't earn the right to use the meaningless pronouns "us" and "we," then I don't know what does. I am more "Steelers" than Chris Hope, than Cedrick Wilson, than Dan Krieder, because in 10 years when they are out of the game, I'll be rooting just as passionately for their replacements. I have been through every up and down with this team in the last 26 years, and am as devoted a Steelers fan as anyone in the country. I had to find ways to rationalize Troy Edwards being drafted. I had to hold firmly to the hope that Jamaine Stephens wasn't going to be as big a bust as predicted. I had to see Scott Shields on that roster.

Yeah, I'm saying "us." WE are going to the Super Bowl. And if WE win the Super Bowl, WE are having a parade in downtown Pittsburgh to celebrate OUR championship. And there's nothing in the world wrong with that.

RoethlisBURGHer
01-25-2006, 12:54 PM
Part of the reason Steelers fans can and do use "we,us,and ours" when it comes to the Steelers is because the Steelers are Pittburgh and thier fans 9even one snot in/from The Burgh) and the fans & city are the Steelers.

Livinginthe past
01-25-2006, 01:44 PM
I have to admit to hating it when people resort to complaining about referring to your team in the 1st person.

Its normally happens after you have just reamed them on a debate or smack talk.


NM

Hammer67
01-25-2006, 05:47 PM
I hate when I do it and normally try not to. My group of friends or people not rabid about the team kind of chuckle when you do use "us" or "we".

I say "They" so I can avoid the ribbing of friends.

On the subject of rabid fans, I am also always careful not to go too overboard as I always thought it was silly when people were overly rabid about things in life. Like the people (adults) who dress up like Star Wars characters at movie premieres and swing glowing sticks at each other...I mean, come on!!! :dang: :rolleyes:

I like the movie too but that is a little weird. :willy:

Stlrs4Life
01-25-2006, 05:54 PM
When you are saying that, there is nothing wrong. Cause We are fans. Fans are part of the team.

43Hitman
01-25-2006, 06:07 PM
good call man hes an eagles fan haha


A beagles fan! Ahh, no wonder, they are always bitter.

SteelerzGirl
01-25-2006, 06:07 PM
:iagree: with Stlrs4Life. The fans are a huge part of the Pittsburgh Steelers as is quite evident by the infiltration the Steeler Nation makes on opposing teams stadiums unless there is a mission to keep them out, i.e., Bengals and Colts...(lol).

ChuckB22
01-25-2006, 10:29 PM
Well they do call Fans the 12th man on the field, so I think its ok.

seahawksfan
01-26-2006, 12:59 AM
On the subject of rabid fans, I am also always careful not to go too overboard as I always thought it was silly when people were overly rabid about things in life. Like the people (adults) who dress up like Star Wars characters at movie premieres and swing glowing sticks at each other...I mean, come on!!! :dang: :rolleyes:

Hey, I resemble that remark.

melroseplace
01-26-2006, 10:16 AM
the Steelers are Pittsburgh and the fans & city are the Steelers

I couldn't have said it better myself, rep points to you :wave:

thumb 2 come
01-26-2006, 10:56 AM
We buy the tickets,fill the seats, and buy the merchandise. Threfore we pay their salaries so yes we are a part of the team.

archangel689
01-26-2006, 11:13 AM
last time i checked i paid city taxes....we pay their salaries...

Livinginthe past
01-26-2006, 01:08 PM
I hate when I do it and normally try not to. My group of friends or people not rabid about the team kind of chuckle when you do use "us" or "we".

I say "They" so I can avoid the ribbing of friends.

On the subject of rabid fans, I am also always careful not to go too overboard as I always thought it was silly when people were overly rabid about things in life. Like the people (adults) who dress up like Star Wars characters at movie premieres and swing glowing sticks at each other...I mean, come on!!! :dang: :rolleyes:

I like the movie too but that is a little weird. :willy:

I'll have you know them light-sabres dont come cheap my friend - and by buying a full size Death Star I have actually funded the Star Wars series.

Its took me ages to get all my make-up and hair right to go to that premiere.......god knows how Princess Leia does it every day :sofunny:

NM

clevestinks
01-26-2006, 05:10 PM
More non-fans complain about the we, and us! I feel like I`m more a part of the Steelers, than the players are, somewhat. I was born and raised in the Burgh, I was born with Black & Gold running through my veins. I cannot sleep after a loss. Sometime players are joking it up after the games with the other team. And I`m sitting at home wanting to kill someone. This is my team. This is what true fans call Their team!
If it ain`t your team, your not a fan

SteelerFire
01-27-2006, 11:16 AM
:sign01:
I don't even live in PA, but have been an enthusiastic (rather than rabid ~ lol ~) Steelers fan for 3 decades +

I really have to say I think it's team spirit rather than geography or taxes. Our boys have heart, and mine is right there with them in every block, pass, fumble, injury ~shhhhh!~ and touchdown.

When you love a team, "we" made it to the SuperBowl or "we'll" do better next year all means the same thing ... your heart is with them.

bangpow
01-27-2006, 11:30 AM
There's a really good blurb in Vice Magazine about that. I will find it and post it, it's pretty funny.

bangpow
01-27-2006, 11:58 AM
Found it!

DOs & DON'Ts—Sports fans
If you insist on talking about some game you like, don't use the word "we," as in "We're losing 10 to 7," or especially, "We're winning," or, "If only we had a left-handed pitcher who could get someone out." We, huh? You and the general manager are going to sit down and tackle that at some point in the near future? No. YOU are not. You get to witness a team full of transient millionaires compete in a game in which, no matter how hard you wish, wear your special hat, or cry, you have ZERO to do with the outcome. You aren't on the team. You aren't a paid consultant to the team. You're a fan of the team. Would you apply this shit to a band? Like, "I know Garcia has been dead for about eight years, but who are we gonna get to replace him?" or "How many dates are we touring?" or "Man, we played a kickass show last night." NO, you would never do that. Or even a favorite porn star? "We gotta dance in Lubbock. That's where we can earn the big dollars. Let's shake our tits. Boy, we really sucked that **** last night. God, I love it when we get a hot blast of cum on our implants."

Infamix
01-27-2006, 12:05 PM
Haha :funny: I think its ok to use it sometimes. I'm not going to go around saying "We played a great game today" "We hit them so hard." But it's ok to say something like "WE are going to the superbowl." because it doesn't sound like you are taking credit for what the team did.

bangpow
01-27-2006, 12:09 PM
I don't necessarily agree with that article, but it's damn funn.

By the way, Infamix, nice sig.