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UltimateBengal
12-03-2009, 04:53 PM
For anyone like me, who grew up with pro wrestling and it's many characters! Let me get it started by asking who your favorite wrestler is and why? Mine is a tie between Sting and the Undertaker! I would've liked to see them face each other!

Also, how do feel the new partnership between Hogan, Bischoff, and TNA will affect the company going forward?

Dino 6 Rings
12-03-2009, 05:53 PM
For anyone like me, who grew up with pro wrestling and it's many characters! Let me get it started by asking who your favorite wrestler is and why? Mine is a tie between Sting and the Undertaker! I would've liked to see them face each other!

Also, how do feel the new partnership between Hogan, Bischoff, and TNA will affect the company going forward?

Randy Savage and Hulk Hogan were my favorites.

I didn't realize Hogan was getting into TNA, and if its Him and Bischoff together, well I would expect Big Things from TNA considering it was them, with Scott Hall and Kevin Nash that brough the WCW into the ForeFront of Wrestling and basically made McMahan their Biatch for about 3 years straight in the ratings. McMahan had to actually Buy them out to get back to the top. His product was inferior and if these two are going to take on with TNA, it will be again.

Not that I've watched in a very long time.

UltimateBengal
12-03-2009, 06:00 PM
Randy Savage and Hulk Hogan were my favorites.

I didn't realize Hogan was getting into TNA, and if its Him and Bischoff together, well I would expect Big Things from TNA considering it was them, with Scott Hall and Kevin Nash that brough the WCW into the ForeFront of Wrestling and basically made McMahan their Biatch for about 3 years straight in the ratings. McMahan had to actually Buy them out to get back to the top. His product was inferior and if these two are going to take on with TNA, it will be again.

Not that I've watched in a very long time.

Hulk was given what had been Jarretts creative control position. Bischoff comes on board with his company, Bischoff-Hervey Entertainment to expand the brand and media side. The press conference at Madison Square Garden is on Youtube.

lambertlunaticfan
12-03-2009, 07:40 PM
I have had many favorite depending on thier gimmicks.Like i used to love triple h but not when he is being a clown with shawn.By the way that whole dx gimmick isnt as cute when its so over the top (with the stubid marketing of thier items-alright we get the joke already) and when it's being done by 40 year men.I used to hate hulk but when he turned bad i loved him with the nwo,which was the best gimmick in the history of wrestling,until they went over the top with it adding the wolf pack and the fact that almost the whole roster was part of them.I loved justin credible as i loved old ecw.I have to say as my brother is freidns with him i also like shawn waltman (aka-six pack,123 kid) And i hate wwe now as i cant stand the jon cena gimmick and that whole guest gm is getting old already.Yeah i watch tna now and yes it's great that hogan is coming in there but they sure are streching that as much as that did that whole hogan vs sting story line (which was the best story line in wrestling until they went too long with it but that first match was great) in wcw.I would love to see vince russo who is a writer come with hulk as i dont think bisoff adds anythign to it as he will just dod his wcw things in there.I think at the end of wcw was thier best years when they had russo and bisoffs as bad guys on there.And i also heard that pyscho sid is coming with hulk to tna so that sould be interesting.

UltimateBengal
12-03-2009, 07:46 PM
I agree with you about the whole DX thing! It's also cool that your brother is friends with Waltman. He wound up in some hot water with Chyna didn't he? I also heard that Hogan wants to bring RVD, Savage, and Austin with him. Austin came out with a statement saying he wanted to stick with acting, which is too bad!

lambertlunaticfan
12-04-2009, 04:12 AM
Yeah,that shawn is a great guy.He is doing indy shows now.He has had a tough road for sure and chyna was just one those speed bumps on that road.I have not heard about who else hogan wants to bring in.But if tna has a drug policy i don;t think rvd will be coming with him as that;'s what got him out of the wwe.I would hate if hogan brought in the guys you mentioed as that's just the same OLD same OLD,if you know what i mean.You got to do something new and not the same storylines.I mean with sting i can see them doing the same hogan and sting they did with the nwo.Where sting shows up in the rafters.Man that's getting old.Tna has alot of young talent and theres alot more at indy shows.Bring them in and create something like ecw did.I mean if ecw had the money they were on the verge of being a power to vince and the wwe.It's just that vince has all the money and power and can buy networks the other can not.The whole wwe is going the way of wcw and that is old.Its the same people vs the same people.But because there is no compition vince doesnt haveto wrroy about putting a good or decent product out there.And usa doesnt care about rating obviously as thier rating are not all that great.And this guest host thing is not that much of a opush to them as i bet they though it would be.And the last tv show i went to was a smackdown taping and they had the wcw black tarp over the upper levels in the arena.I agree with you about the whole DX thing! It's also cool that your brother is friends with Waltman. He wound up in some hot water with Chyna didn't he? I also heard that Hogan wants to bring RVD, Savage, and Austin with him. Austin came out with a statement saying he wanted to stick with acting, which is too bad!

Venom
12-04-2009, 06:56 AM
Growing up , my favorite was Randy Macho Man Savage . I went to all his matches growing up at Madison Square Garden . Those were the good ole days . Also , I remember being a kid , sitting in the first row and watching a lumberjack match between Ricky The Dragon Steamboat vs The Honky Tonk Man . All the wrestlers I loved outside the ring , 1 foot away from me throwing back the wrestlers if they got thrown out of the ring. I thought I was in heaven .
I also liked the NWO days of the NWA . That was a pretty cool story line until it got old . NWO 4 LIFE !!

stlrtruck
12-04-2009, 08:07 AM
Loved Ricky The Dragon
Sting
Hogan
Bret Hart

(just to name a few)

As for DX, DX was great when it was the full entourage, Chyna, Billy the Kid, Roaddog, etc. Now that it's just Shawn and Triple H, it's not as good as it once was. I can only hope that they've stopped pimping their products. It's more entertaining when they just kick arse.

With Hogan going to TNA, he is going to have find some new talent and rip some never before story lines in order to supplant WWE and their foothold in the wrestling world. He definitely won't be able to do that with the talent level on TNA considering that WWE is holding down two time slots a week.

What station is TNA on anyway?

Dino 6 Rings
12-04-2009, 12:27 PM
TNA is on Spike, I caught part of it last night, prompted by this Thread actually because I wanted to see the Hogan News...apparently Sting is none too happy about Hogan showing up...but that's the norm.

Sting hates WWE, he is one of the few guys to never really go work there. I wouldn't be surpised to see Hogan rip away some Talent from WWE, like Betista or something, he started in the WCW and only went WWE when McMahon bought the company.

KeiselPower99
12-04-2009, 03:05 PM
Hogan and Bischoff wanted to buy WCW before it was sold to WWF back in 2001 but couldnt get the funding. Im really concerned its gonna hurt TNA in the long run as just before Hogan signed they started pushing the younger guys like AJ Styles Matt Morgan and Hernandez. Now Hogan is there and is rumored to have Ric Flair involved. Bischoff is there simply as the marketing guy and to get them another show per week.

UltimateBengal
12-04-2009, 09:51 PM
Hogan and Bischoff wanted to buy WCW before it was sold to WWF back in 2001 but couldnt get the funding. Im really concerned its gonna hurt TNA in the long run as just before Hogan signed they started pushing the younger guys like AJ Styles Matt Morgan and Hernandez. Now Hogan is there and is rumored to have Ric Flair involved. Bischoff is there simply as the marketing guy and to get them another show per week.

I hope Hogan doesn't go after all the old timers. I would rather see guys like RVD and Sabu, even though I know they had their problems. They would be a better fit for TNA. I really think TNA has potential, and Hogan knows the business better than anyone, if he kkeps his eye on the future and not the past!

psusteelers4life
12-05-2009, 02:41 AM
I remember The old ECW with the Sandman and Sabu . I was a big fan of the ROCK and Undertaker...I remember cocoa beware and the junkyard dog, Ricky the Dragon steamboat George the animal steel was awesome eating the stuffing out of the turnbuckle and the green tongue he had.

MACH1
12-05-2009, 03:23 AM
Road Warriors and Kane.

lambertlunaticfan
12-05-2009, 03:42 AM
For all you wrestling fans on this thread.Its a sad day as another wrestler has not seen thier 40th birthday.As "umaga" has passed away.Its bazare how many wrestlers have passed away by the time of that age.The sport is for entertainment but it has taken alot of people from us way too soon.My prayers and thoughts go to his family.There was this web site that i went on that had the list of all the wrestlers that have passed away and it's strange to read the same ages-30,34,31,33,37 etc.I read that he got cut in june because of refusing treatment for failing Under thier so-called "wellness program" that they just started to deal with the drug problem in the sport.Umaga was wrestling indy shows and was currently on the "hulkamania" tour that was over in australia just last week.Umaga was like alot of them on that list were dealing with thier demons.As it takes a toll on thier bodys and have to take pills to get themselves to deal with the sport.I know it's a choice that they make but if the nfl had a list like this something would be done way before this.Can you imagine if the nfl had a list of like 100 players who have all dies before thier 40th.Because thats what wrestling has.I remember when hbo did a story about the drugs and it's when vince went off on bob costos.It gave a great insight to the sport.One wreslter said he was taking like 30 pain pils a day or something like that.But what got to me was they showed this wrestler, chris spiccoli-(spelled wrong i believe ),and they had this tape of him walking the halls of his hotel just fried out on pills and he could'nt find his room in his underwear.He was just going to every door and hitting off the walls and just staggering down the hall.He is one of them that did'nt see his 40th.And what was really sad is that he had finally made it to the show.As he wreslted in the wcw and finally made it to a ppv and a major storyline after years of working bit parts and indy shows.He was suppose to wreslte larry zibesco.Chris got to be a nwo member and a sidekick of scott hall and the night before the ppv they found him dead in his hotel room.And call me a baby but it brought tears to my eyes to see that story and watching the ppv when they said the news on it.Just sad to me,umaga you will be missed.

Aussie_steeler
12-05-2009, 03:58 AM
My all time list

1. Hollywood Hulk Hogan ( nothing like his entrance to Hendrix Voodoo Chile in the black & white of NWO- best ever gimmick in wrestling IMO)
2. Bret "The Hitman" Hart - The excellence of execution
3. Kurt Angle - Face or Heel he could / can do it all. The near equal of Bret Hart for technical excellence. The only current wrestler I rate.
4. Randy " Macho Man" Savage - the second best entertainer behind Hollywood
5. Big Poppa Pump Scott Steiner - the living suplex machine and one helluva persona

Other guys I enjoyed watch go around.
* The outsiders ( Hall and Nash - I loved it when Scott Hall was a train wreck and you never knew what you were going to get and Kevin Nash would walk down the isle and continually wipe the white stuff from his nose)
* Ultimo Dragon ( the precursor to Rey Mysterio)
*The Flock - Raven, Perry Saturn ( another real favourite who suffered tragically), Kris Kanyon
* Yes, I will say it "Goldberg"
* Old school WWF before WCW - Ricky the Dragon Steamboat, Curt Henning, Jake Roberts and of course the jobbers like Barry O, Steve Lombardi and Iron Mike Sharp.


Like many of you in this thread I have had a misspent youth. I dont watch WWE now ( Orton, Cena, Jericho and other mouths dont do anything for me) but do catch a little TNA.

I live for the old school WCW days - NWO 4 Life.

UltimateBengal
12-08-2009, 02:20 PM
My all time list

1. Hollywood Hulk Hogan ( nothing like his entrance to Hendrix Voodoo Chile in the black & white of NWO- best ever gimmick in wrestling IMO)
2. Bret "The Hitman" Hart - The excellence of execution
3. Kurt Angle - Face or Heel he could / can do it all. The near equal of Bret Hart for technical excellence. The only current wrestler I rate.
4. Randy " Macho Man" Savage - the second best entertainer behind Hollywood
5. Big Poppa Pump Scott Steiner - the living suplex machine and one helluva persona

Other guys I enjoyed watch go around.
* The outsiders ( Hall and Nash - I loved it when Scott Hall was a train wreck and you never knew what you were going to get and Kevin Nash would walk down the isle and continually wipe the white stuff from his nose)
* Ultimo Dragon ( the precursor to Rey Mysterio)
*The Flock - Raven, Perry Saturn ( another real favourite who suffered tragically), Kris Kanyon
* Yes, I will say it "Goldberg"
* Old school WWF before WCW - Ricky the Dragon Steamboat, Curt Henning, Jake Roberts and of course the jobbers like Barry O, Steve Lombardi and Iron Mike Sharp.


Like many of you in this thread I have had a misspent youth. I dont watch WWE now ( Orton, Cena, Jericho and other mouths dont do anything for me) but do catch a little TNA.

I live for the old school WCW days - NWO 4 Life.

I hear that, NWO vs WCW was epic! WWE has become a joke! That's why I'm really trying to get on the TNA bandwagon. Hopefully Hogan can work some of his magic. By the way, TNA goes to Monday nights, head to head with Raw, starting Jan 4th. Do they have a chance of competing with McMahon?

KeiselPower99
12-08-2009, 02:48 PM
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I hear that, NWO vs WCW was epic! WWE has become a joke! That's why I'm really trying to get on the TNA bandwagon. Hopefully Hogan can work some of his magic. By the way, TNA goes to Monday nights, head to head with Raw, starting Jan 4th. Do they have a chance of competing with McMahon?

Cant wait to see TNA up against WWE. I watched Raw last night for the first time since Roethlisberger was on there and it lacks the excitement of just a few years ago.

stlrtruck
12-08-2009, 02:48 PM
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I hear that, NWO vs WCW was epic! WWE has become a joke! That's why I'm really trying to get on the TNA bandwagon. Hopefully Hogan can work some of his magic. By the way, TNA goes to Monday nights, head to head with Raw, starting Jan 4th. Do they have a chance of competing with McMahon?

If they can get their egos under control (unlike when they were WCW) and bring in some better competition, younger competition, and stop retreading the same old "champions" then yes they can compete with McMahon.

WWE has gone stale and they're trying to revamp with the special guest hosts, etc. But they aren't getting new talent that can replace the talent lost - like The Rock, Stone Cold, etc. The orginal DX on WWE was awesome and if TNA can put together a group like that as well as some new stuff they'll quickly become a competitor again for the ratings.

supa_fly_steeler
12-08-2009, 04:12 PM
WWE was only good when Stacy Keibler bent over the ropes :D

There storylines since 2003 has gone putrid

KeiselPower99
12-08-2009, 04:28 PM
WWE was only good when Stacy Keibler bent over the ropes :D

There storylines since 2003 has gone putrid

Best thing ever to come out of Baltimore.



http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/3/7/Stacy_Keibler_RingEntrance.0.0.0x0.280x350.jpeg

Aussie_steeler
12-10-2009, 04:13 AM
The ultimate days in WCW for me were when they stuck to a simple formula that worked.

They had a booking system that clearly revolved around a transparent ranking system for the new / emerging and middle of the round talent. They had the cruiser weights that stayed totally within that parameter and provided high risk / high quality content. The middle of the road talent worked their butts off to get noticed to be moved into the upper echelon of performers. These style of matches made up 60 to 70% of the matches on offer. These fighters had the chance of fighting for the TV title belt and occasionally the US heavyweight belt.

This left a maximum of 3 big matches that contained fueds / title matches / or novelty stories involving the Heavyweight and Tag team titles.

I am sick of tired of watching an event and being able to almost totally predict the outcome of every match even down to the angle that they are going to use.

My advice:
* remove the majority of angles and swerves.
* let young talent showcase their skills without having to throw in the dramatic BS ( ala Cena)
* let the headliners showcase the true wrestling skills they have and not just their microphone skills
* the four horsemen / NWO / DX / British invasion type concept is overused. GO back to heels and faces and let fueds simmer for a longer period

Remember this ( old timers)
Classic WCW event ( a trip down memory lane)
July 6, 1998:

1. World Television Champion, Booker T., pinned Dean Malenko...
2 Raven defeated Kanyon by Disqualification..
3 Scott Putski pinned Scotty Riggs...
4 World Cruiserweight Champion, Chris Jericho defeated Ultimo Dragon by Disqualification...
5. Chavo Guerrero Jr. pinned Johnny Swinger...
6. Public Enemy defeated Disco Inferno and Alex Wright...
7. United States Champion, Bill Goldberg, pinned Scott Hall...
8. Juventud Guerrera pinned Psichosis...
9. The Giant pinned Jim Duggan...
10. Diamond Dallas Page pinned Jim Neidhart...
11 Sting and Lex Luger defeated Sick Boy and Billy Kidman..
12 .Bill Goldberg pinned Hollywood Hogan for the World Heavyweight Title.

http://www.100megsfree4.com/wiawrestling/pages/wcw/nit1998.htm

12 matches, 4 title matches, 1 disqualification and Bill Goldberg's night of nights in his home town Atlanta.

simple formula, great event, great memories. It doesnt take a moron to see the formula that was used.

stlrtruck
12-10-2009, 08:46 AM
* let the headliners showcase the true wrestling skills they have and not just their microphone skills


This has become the problem with the WWE. If you look at the two hour event of RAW, they spend more time talking and less time wrestling. I would rather see the wrestling and the fueds rather than the ME, ME, ME microphone monologues where the mic presence has been lost since the days of The Rock.

Less LIP SERVICE and more ACTION.

KeiselPower99
12-10-2009, 09:41 AM
This has become the problem with the WWE. If you look at the two hour event of RAW, they spend more time talking and less time wrestling. I would rather see the wrestling and the fueds rather than the ME, ME, ME microphone monologues where the mic presence has been lost since the days of The Rock.

Less LIP SERVICE and more ACTION.

Thats why I like TNA. They give you more wrestling. Or did until recently

supa_fly_steeler
12-10-2009, 10:26 AM
Best thing ever to come out of Baltimore.



http://cm1.theinsider.com/media/0/3/7/Stacy_Keibler_RingEntrance.0.0.0x0.280x350.jpeg

a picture 180 degrees more would be much better :)

but yea i agree on that,

UltimateBengal
12-10-2009, 06:41 PM
The ultimate days in WCW for me were when they stuck to a simple formula that worked.

They had a booking system that clearly revolved around a transparent ranking system for the new / emerging and middle of the round talent. They had the cruiser weights that stayed totally within that parameter and provided high risk / high quality content. The middle of the road talent worked their butts off to get noticed to be moved into the upper echelon of performers. These style of matches made up 60 to 70% of the matches on offer. These fighters had the chance of fighting for the TV title belt and occasionally the US heavyweight belt.

This left a maximum of 3 big matches that contained fueds / title matches / or novelty stories involving the Heavyweight and Tag team titles.

I am sick of tired of watching an event and being able to almost totally predict the outcome of every match even down to the angle that they are going to use.

My advice:
* remove the majority of angles and swerves.
* let young talent showcase their skills without having to throw in the dramatic BS ( ala Cena)
* let the headliners showcase the true wrestling skills they have and not just their microphone skills
* the four horsemen / NWO / DX / British invasion type concept is overused. GO back to heels and faces and let fueds simmer for a longer period

Remember this ( old timers)


12 matches, 4 title matches, 1 disqualification and Bill Goldberg's night of nights in his home town Atlanta.

simple formula, great event, great memories. It doesnt take a moron to see the formula that was used.

Lots of good thoughts there Aussie! Maybe Hogan should hire you as TNAs new booker. :drink:At least you know what real fans want. That's the problem with WWE, I don't think they have a clue anymore!

MACH1
12-10-2009, 07:14 PM
I'm kinda partial to this one. :drool::lust:

http://www.lethalwow.com/images4/maria34.jpg

Maria

Aussie_steeler
12-11-2009, 03:35 PM
Lots of good thoughts there Aussie! Maybe Hogan should hire you as TNAs new booker. :drink:At least you know what real fans want. That's the problem with WWE, I don't think they have a clue anymore!

Todays wrestling is kind of like going to a crusty demons show. Loads of guys doing flashy things that engage people with minimal attention span.

Give me a classic like the best of 7 series between Booker T and Chris Benoit. Spread across a month it was great drama and good viewing

WCW unfortunately lost the plot when they had about 250 wrestlers under contract (trying to shut down WWE) signed on long term contracts. Many were paid to stay at home. Kevin Nash as a booker also cost them a lot.

THe history of the fall of WCW is very interesting - well worth checking out

KeiselPower99
12-11-2009, 03:55 PM
Todays wrestling is kind of like going to a crusty demons show. Loads of guys doing flashy things that engage people with minimal attention span.

Give me a classic like the best of 7 series between Booker T and Chris Benoit. Spread across a month it was great drama and good viewing

WCW unfortunately lost the plot when they had about 250 wrestlers under contract (trying to shut down WWE) signed on long term contracts. Many were paid to stay at home. Kevin Nash as a booker also cost them a lot.

THe history of the fall of WCW is very interesting - well worth checking out

I was thinking of picking that up, By the way did ya get to any of the Hulkamania shows down there earlier this month?

UltimateBengal
12-11-2009, 07:13 PM
Todays wrestling is kind of like going to a crusty demons show. Loads of guys doing flashy things that engage people with minimal attention span.

Give me a classic like the best of 7 series between Booker T and Chris Benoit. Spread across a month it was great drama and good viewing

WCW unfortunately lost the plot when they had about 250 wrestlers under contract (trying to shut down WWE) signed on long term contracts. Many were paid to stay at home. Kevin Nash as a booker also cost them a lot.

THe history of the fall of WCW is very interesting - well worth checking out

I've seen that and it is very interesting, as is Bischoff's book. While he admits to making plenty of mistakes, he was also handcuffed after TimeWarner took over WCW, knowing plenty about entertainment but nothing about wrestling. Dixie Carter has a new half hour interview on Youtube and the TNA site. She provides alot of details about the deal with Hogan, and the future of TNA. One thing she seems intent on, is keeping TNA a wrestling company and not an entertainment company like WWE. I wish her success, I'm rooting for her, Hogan, and TNA!

stlrtruck
12-11-2009, 08:56 PM
It will be interesting to see what they do in the new year. What I saw last night on TNA was much better overall than what I've seen on WWE over the past 6 months. Couldn't really pay attention to it as I was watching the Steelers game. But I certainly will begin recording it.

UltimateBengal
12-11-2009, 09:23 PM
It will be interesting to see what they do in the new year. What I saw last night on TNA was much better overall than what I've seen on WWE over the past 6 months. Couldn't really pay attention to it as I was watching the Steelers game. But I certainly will begin recording it.

Jan 4th will be a big day for the new, improved TNA. Hogan will make his debut, they will be live up against Raw, and rumors are there will be some big surprises. Wouldn't be shocked to see RVD show up.

BTW, in addition to RVD, I've read rumors about Savage, Austin, Jeff Hardy, Sid, and Mr Kennedy. I don't know how true any of them are, what have you guys heard?

stlrtruck
12-11-2009, 09:30 PM
Jan 4th will be a big day for the new, improved TNA. Hogan will make his debut, they will be live up against Raw, and rumors are there will be some big surprises. Wouldn't be shocked to see RVD show up.


Good I'll be back from my trip to Miami (at least I'm getting away for a weekend).

TackleMeBen
12-11-2009, 09:32 PM
when i was little, i loved the rock 'n roll express and the midnight express with jim cornett and that tennis racquet...

i watch wrestling now b/c my son loves it.. and mom loves looking at randy orton's body..lol

UltimateBengal
12-11-2009, 09:32 PM
Good I'll be back from my trip to Miami (at least I'm getting away for a weekend).

Miami? Lucky dog!:drink:

UltimateBengal
12-11-2009, 09:35 PM
when i was little, i loved the rock 'n roll express and the midnight express with jim cornett and that tennis racquet...

i watch wrestling now b/c my son loves it.. and mom loves looking at randy orton's body..lol

Orton is actually one of the guys in WWE that I wish was in TNA. He's young, talented, and polarizing. I used to be a DX fan, but that is so played out now with HHH and HBK.

TackleMeBen
12-11-2009, 10:19 PM
Orton is actually one of the guys in WWE that I wish was in TNA. He's young, talented, and polarizing. I used to be a DX fan, but that is so played out now with HHH and HBK.
i loved WWE when Stone Cold was on there and doing some crazy stuff to vince.. and i loved the rock on the mic. he was great.

UltimateBengal
12-11-2009, 10:24 PM
i loved WWE when Stone Cold was on there and doing some crazy stuff to vince.. and i loved the rock on the mic. he was great.

Hogan has been dropping Austin's name alot, but I don't know if Austin wants back in wrestling at this point. Would love to see him on TNA!

TackleMeBen
12-11-2009, 10:42 PM
Hogan has been dropping Austin's name alot, but I don't know if Austin wants back in wrestling at this point. Would love to see him on TNA!
i doubt austin will ever wrestle again. he has had several neck surgeries and one wrong move he could get killed

UltimateBengal
12-11-2009, 10:45 PM
i doubt austin will ever wrestle again. he has had several neck surgeries and one wrong move he could get killed

Yeah, I don't think he can ever wrestle. I think they wanted him as more of an on air personality for rating, but I don't see it happening.

TackleMeBen
12-11-2009, 10:48 PM
Yeah, I don't think he can ever wrestle. I think they wanted him as more of an on air personality for rating, but I don't see it happening.
they should bring in the rock though.. he had some personality...i loved him. although, i do like matt morgan in tna and a j styles.

UltimateBengal
12-11-2009, 10:51 PM
they should bring in the rock though.. he had some personality...i loved him. although, i do like matt morgan in tna and a j styles.

I agree, the Rock was the best on the mic! I agree about Morgan too, he could be a more athletic version of Kevin Nash in his prime. I would like to see them use Samoa Joe a little better too.

TackleMeBen
12-11-2009, 10:57 PM
I agree, the Rock was the best on the mic! I agree about Morgan too, he could be a more athletic version of Kevin Nash in his prime. I would like to see them use Samoa Joe a little better too.
yes, and that new black man.. the pope i think his name is.. he seems like he has potential too.

UltimateBengal
12-11-2009, 10:59 PM
yes, and that new black man.. the pope i think his name is.. he seems like he has potential too.

Yeah, D'Angelo "the pope" Dinero. He's got alot of talent and attitude.

TackleMeBen
12-11-2009, 11:00 PM
yeah, i like him.. there some guys that you like whether they are bad or good.. like HHH he was good as a bad guy or good guy.

UltimateBengal
12-11-2009, 11:03 PM
yeah, i like him.. there some guys that you like whether they are bad or good.. like HHH he was good as a bad guy or good guy.

I miss the days of the 4 Horsemen and the NWO. They tried that in TNA with the Main Event Mafia, but it wasn't the same.

TackleMeBen
12-11-2009, 11:29 PM
I miss the days of the 4 Horsemen and the NWO. They tried that in TNA with the Main Event Mafia, but it wasn't the same.
i think it could have worked if they had better writers. yeah i loved to hate the 4 horsemen when i was a little girl.

UltimateBengal
12-11-2009, 11:32 PM
i think it could have worked if they had better writers. yeah i loved to hate the 4 horsemen when i was a little girl.

I know what you mean. When I was younger, I hated Ric Flair with a passion!!! Wrestling could use another Flair or Hogan. :drink:

TackleMeBen
12-11-2009, 11:35 PM
I know what you mean. When I was younger, I hated Ric Flair with a passion!!! Wrestling could use another Flair or Hogan. :drink:
yes they could.. i did too. i remember going to the great american bash one year.. flair was wrestling koloff in a cage match and koloff went to grab flair who was trying to climb out of the cage and pulled his tights down and the whole stadium got see flairs rear end.

UltimateBengal
12-11-2009, 11:43 PM
yes they could.. i did too. i remember going to the great american bash one year.. flair was wrestling koloff in a cage match and koloff went to grab flair who was trying to climb out of the cage and pulled his tights down and the whole stadium got see flairs rear end.

Nikita Koloff...I haven't heard that name forever! Man those were the days! And as far as Flairs rear end, I'm glad I missed that! Wooooooooooo!!!:chuckle:

TackleMeBen
12-12-2009, 12:25 AM
Nikita Koloff...I haven't heard that name forever! Man those were the days! And as far as Flairs rear end, I'm glad I missed that! Wooooooooooo!!!:chuckle:
it was white as snow...lol.. i remember turning to my dad, and saying.. daddy his pants are down..lol.

UltimateBengal
12-12-2009, 12:33 AM
it was white as snow...lol.. i remember turning to my dad, and saying.. daddy his pants are down..lol.

Ok, way too much info!:chuckle:Didn't that happen to Rick rude once on TV?

TackleMeBen
12-12-2009, 12:40 AM
Ok, way too much info!:chuckle:Didn't that happen to Rick rude once on TV?
i think it might have...

stlrtruck
12-12-2009, 09:20 AM
Miami? Lucky dog!:drink:

When you live in Tampa, it's not that bad of a drive.

stlrtruck
12-12-2009, 09:23 AM
Orton is actually one of the guys in WWE that I wish was in TNA. He's young, talented, and polarizing. I used to be a DX fan, but that is so played out now with HHH and HBK.

DX was great when they had the Road Dogg, Billy Gunn, 123 Kid, and Chyna.

Hogan has been dropping Austin's name alot, but I don't know if Austin wants back in wrestling at this point. Would love to see him on TNA!

Didn't Austin break his back or something and that's why he's out?

I miss the days of the 4 Horsemen and the NWO. They tried that in TNA with the Main Event Mafia, but it wasn't the same.

The original 4 Horsemen were awesome (as much as I hated them).

But one of the top groups was with Michael P S Hayes (I can't remember the group name- wasn't it like the T-Birds or something)

supa_fly_steeler
12-12-2009, 11:03 AM
I'm kinda partial to this one. :drool::lust:

http://www.lethalwow.com/images4/maria34.jpg

Maria

does anyone remember ashleys playboy picks

DAYUMMMMMM

one of my fav pics of stacy

http://3432.voxcdn.com/_images/articles/2007/03/13/stacy_keibler_l10.jpg


The Rock energized the WWE, and made it so famous, probably the most famous wrestler ever.

UltimateBengal
12-12-2009, 01:28 PM
DX was great when they had the Road Dogg, Billy Gunn, 123 Kid, and Chyna.



Didn't Austin break his back or something and that's why he's out?



The original 4 Horsemen were awesome (as much as I hated them).

But one of the top groups was with Michael P S Hayes (I can't remember the group name- wasn't it like the T-Birds or something)

The Fabulous Freebirds

Aussie_steeler
12-12-2009, 10:20 PM
I was thinking of picking that up, By the way did ya get to any of the Hulkamania shows down there earlier this month?

DIdnt see any myself - however tonight they are showing the events on a new digital channel we have. I will record it tonight and get back with some feedback for you.

KeiselPower99
12-13-2009, 01:30 AM
Jan 4th will be a big day for the new, improved TNA. Hogan will make his debut, they will be live up against Raw, and rumors are there will be some big surprises. Wouldn't be shocked to see RVD show up.

BTW, in addition to RVD, I've read rumors about Savage, Austin, Jeff Hardy, Sid, and Mr Kennedy. I don't know how true any of them are, what have you guys heard?

RVD has confirmed he will be at the show. Not sure on what capacity though. Id love to see Kennedy go to TNA and be successful. He was screwed hard by Orton and the WWE.

UltimateBengal
12-13-2009, 01:32 AM
RVD has confirmed he will be at the show. Not sure on what capacity though. Id love to see Kennedy go to TNA and be successful. He was screwed hard by Orton and the WWE.

Thats big for TNA..just hope his legal troubles are behind him!

TackleMeBen
12-13-2009, 10:01 PM
my daughter loves RVD.

X-Terminator
12-14-2009, 07:26 AM
I'm not really into pro wrestling anymore - Mr. McMahon ruined that for me - but IMO the 4 Horsemen was the greatest wrestling stable of all time. That's where my love of Ric Flair began, even though I did hate them. And I'm talking about the original Horsemen with the Andersons and Tully Blanchard, not the modern version with the late Chris Benoit, Flair, Arn Anderson and another wrestler (don't remember who it was - I try to block that out LOL). DX with HHH, X-Pac, the New Age Outlaws and Chyna was a close second.

stlrtruck
12-14-2009, 09:11 AM
Thats big for TNA..just hope his legal troubles are behind him!

Didn't he also have some 'roid issues?

KeiselPower99
12-14-2009, 09:19 AM
Didn't he also have some 'roid issues?

Not sure if it was roids but I do know he liked to smoke the reefer.

UltimateBengal
12-14-2009, 09:08 PM
Not sure if it was roids but I do know he liked to smoke the reefer.

He does like his reefer! He's never denied that. But it has also gotten him into trouble with the law. He got bust right after his WWE release with Sabu, I think. Jeff Hardy has had some drug problems too, and the rumor sites are saying TNA and Hogan want him as well. If they get RVD and Hardy, they might as well throw the drug testing policy out the window!:chuckle:

KeiselPower99
12-22-2009, 11:57 PM
Actually right after RVD won the WWE title they got busted with Sabu for having a some on him leaving Huntington WV and was an hour off course. Not sure if anyone has heard but The Hitman Bret Hart has signed with the WWE on a short term contract through WrestleMania this year.

stlrtruck
12-23-2009, 08:15 AM
Actually right after RVD won the WWE title they got busted with Sabu for having a some on him leaving Huntington WV and was an hour off course. Not sure if anyone has heard but The Hitman Bret Hart has signed with the WWE on a short term contract through WrestleMania this year.

I wonder if it's to 'pimp' the New Hart Foundation?

UltimateBengal
12-23-2009, 01:09 PM
Actually right after RVD won the WWE title they got busted with Sabu for having a some on him leaving Huntington WV and was an hour off course. Not sure if anyone has heard but The Hitman Bret Hart has signed with the WWE on a short term contract through WrestleMania this year.

I heard that about Hart. I never thought he would ever work for McMahon again. The latest rumors on TNAs Jan 4th Monday night show is that RVD, Ric Flair, and maybe even Mr Kennedy(Ken Anderson) could be on hand. There is also speculation that Hogan has been talking with Scott Hall and Sean Waltman about a reunion with Kevin Nash. The WWE apparently now owns the rights to NWO, so they will have to go by The Outsiders. Has anyone heard anything else about the who might be at the Jan 4th Impact?

stlrtruck
12-23-2009, 03:35 PM
I heard that about Hart. I never thought he would ever work for McMahon again. The latest rumors on TNAs Jan 4th Monday night show is that RVD, Ric Flair, and maybe even Mr Kennedy(Ken Anderson) could be on hand. There is also speculation that Hogan has been talking with Scott Hall and Sean Waltman about a reunion with Kevin Nash. The WWE apparently now owns the rights to NWO, so they will have to go by The Outsiders. Has anyone heard anything else about the who might be at the Jan 4th Impact?

Just did a BING search on it and the only thing else they mentioned was Virgil will be there as Vincent.

UltimateBengal
12-23-2009, 03:37 PM
Just did a BING search on it and the only thing else they mentioned was Virgil will be there as Vincent.

Virgil? Why? LOL

KeiselPower99
12-24-2009, 02:42 PM
On wrestlezone.com they have been reporting for about a month of a possible NWO reunion of that episode of Impact. Also there is talk of a DX with McMahon vs Hart Dynasty with Bret Hart at Wrestlemania.

KeiselPower99
12-31-2009, 03:42 PM
Dr. Death Steve Williams died of throat cancer yesterday. He was 49.

UltimateBengal
01-01-2010, 05:50 PM
Dr. Death Steve Williams died of throat cancer yesterday. He was 49.

Sorry to hear that. Dr Death was one tough SOB!!

lambertlunaticfan
01-02-2010, 04:47 AM
That is sad to hear about the passing of yet another wrestler dr death steve williams.I also expressed i was sad when "umaga" passed away on dec 4th.At the young age of 36.And i posted on this thread a long post about it the day after it happen about it.But it didnt get any responses.I thought for sure at least one "wrestling fan" on this thread would share in my sadness of this fallen wrestler.:noidea:

lambertlunaticfan
01-06-2010, 11:30 PM
It's funny you guys were all talking about the new tna with hogan and you were all talking about it for the week leading up to it.But 3 days after the first show noone has come on here to talk about that first show.I guess this section of the forum does not get much traffic.I guess you guys all forgot about this thread or had better things to do on monday.Well i did'nt and i watched it and raw.Which was tough to watch both at the same time clicking from one show to the other show.As raw had the return of the hitman to compete with nwo (oh excuse me) hogan taking over tna.As for the tna show,i just see more of the same.And like me and my brother jason who watched it with me(As we are both a wrestling fans but dont like to admit it) said to compete tna will have to go on the road.They can not compete doing thier show at the same place every week.And i really got a wcw at the end vibe from the show.Just more backsatge antics then wrestling.Now i have been watching tna from the first show.When it was a weekly pay per view show and they used a regular ring(which they also need to go back to if they want to compete).And this show had more excitement to it but i think its cause it was brand new.But not really as hogan,hall and hardy have all been on tna before.The trick is for them to keep that excitement going.But then i am only talking to myself here.

lambertlunaticfan
01-08-2010, 03:02 AM
ANYBODY????.....I guess i am sitting at this "wrestling roundtable" by myself.:noidea:

Aussie_steeler
01-08-2010, 03:56 AM
I get the show tomorrow night here downunder (it is broadcast on delay at 10pm on saturday nights)

Still looking ..........just waiting for something to write about

Hang in there...........your are still be watched.........you are not alone

stlrtruck
01-08-2010, 08:58 AM
Didn't get to see much of the TNA show with Hogan. From what I saw, I think they are going to try and drag it out as long as possible to help boost ratings against the WWE.

UltimateBengal
01-10-2010, 06:53 PM
ANYBODY????.....I guess i am sitting at this "wrestling roundtable" by myself.:noidea:

I'm back! Got to go on vacation for a couple of weeks. I watched the TNA show on Monday. I had mixed reactions. I loved seeing the NWO in the ring again! But I'm not sure how or how often they will be used. I do think it has potential. The same with Rick Flair. If he's used properly, he'll be a huge asset to TNA. And I was siked to see the high flying phenom Jeff Hardy. Once his legal issues are resolved, this guy can carry TNA to another level. I just hope they don't use him in the X division. I want to see him against Angle, Styles, Samoa Joe! There were a few things that left me scratching my head. The Nasty Boys, Val Venis, and Orlando Jordan? Jordan brings nothing to the table that they need. Morley(venis) could be an asset as an agent/trainer, but I don't want to see him in the ring. And I definitely don't want to see a Nasty Boys-Team 3-D rivalry!!!

All in all, I enjoyed Monday. TNAs show was much better than Raw, IMO. McMahon has forgotten all about the wrestling aspect, something TNA has going for it! I think Hogan brings a ton of experience and knowledge to TNA. As far as Bischoff, I was surprised to see him involved on screen and backstage, since he was supposed to be involved in the business side. But Easy E is a mad genius, if he's kept in check!

Rob VanDam blogged during impact, and said that while he had no plans to re enter wrestling at the moment, he would be watching what happens with TNA and WWE. Ken Anderson(mr kennedy), Matt Hardy, and Shane Helms are rumored to be heading to TNA soon, and there is interest in Tommy Dreamer and Paul Heyman.

For all those who are sick of the joke WWE puts out every week, and miss the good ole days of WCW, TNA has at least offered us a glimmer of hope!!!

supa_fly_steeler
01-10-2010, 07:38 PM
if TNA gets stacy keibler to strip i'll watch.

UltimateBengal
01-10-2010, 07:41 PM
if TNA gets stacy keibler to strip i'll watch.

Stacy actually said she has interest in TNA, but hasn't heard from them! What the hell is up with that?

lambertlunaticfan
01-11-2010, 12:55 AM
Welcome back ultimatebengal-I thought you guys left me all alone.The problem i had with the tna first show is that i can see how the nwo can be the poison pill for that company.I mean just putting over thier friends.They have had that rep from thier past doings in the wcw (which that gimmick killed that company).And then its very small run in the wwe.That was only done just to set up that first ever rock vs hogan wresltemania.But soon after that the whole nwo thing went away.Because it doesnt have the same interest in the long run as it does in the short run of the gimmick.I mean can you people who say you love the wwe realy say that whole "dx" gimmick isnt getting old.I mean seriously horn-whatever that little guys name is.I mean what a joke.And mcmahon knew if he kept the nwo gimmick going it would bring down the company like it did in the wcw.But i guess the numbers on "dx" must be alright to keep two old guys acting like teenages selling thier merchandise and now running around with a wrestler who doesnt wrestle.I hate the wwe as its the same old show after show.As they keep putting over the same people.I dont like the ric flair thing as again-same old same old.I mean have him as a manager than thats fine but as a wreslter.My grandpa is his age and we dont let him walk up and down the darn stairs.I HATE JEFF HARDY.Seriously how many chances does one guy deserve.Want to do drugs, fine go do them and we will give your spot for a guy who does'nt.I agree with the nasty boys and those others,as i dont see them as active wrestlers.Just hogan bringing in his friends.As those are the same guys that were part of the hulkamania tour,along with mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr-kenndy.........wait for it.........kenndy.Man i hope he comes there as i love that gimmick.And i dont think the key is eric bishoff or hogan,its the main writer, the man that came up with the nwo and the things that made the wwf and wcw great and thats vince russo.Which will be interesting as kevin nash is the main booker for tna.If those two guys can work together should be interesting.But again as i said the key to success is they have to get out of the studio arena and do thier show weekly on the road.And they have to keep going head to head with them on monday nights live and cant be doing these taped thursday night shows.And i just had to say i loved seeing my man sean waltman being there.Man it was tough being able to let that cat out of the bag on here.As i knew he was going to be there.I'm back! Got to go on vacation for a couple of weeks. I watched the TNA show on Monday. I had mixed reactions. I loved seeing the NWO in the ring again! But I'm not sure how or how often they will be used. I do think it has potential. The same with Rick Flair. If he's used properly, he'll be a huge asset to TNA. And I was siked to see the high flying phenom Jeff Hardy. Once his legal issues are resolved, this guy can carry TNA to another level. I just hope they don't use him in the X division. I want to see him against Angle, Styles, Samoa Joe! There were a few things that left me scratching my head. The Nasty Boys, Val Venis, and Orlando Jordan? Jordan brings nothing to the table that they need. Morley(venis) could be an asset as an agent/trainer, but I don't want to see him in the ring. And I definitely don't want to see a Nasty Boys-Team 3-D rivalry!!!

All in all, I enjoyed Monday. TNAs show was much better than Raw, IMO. McMahon has forgotten all about the wrestling aspect, something TNA has going for it! I think Hogan brings a ton of experience and knowledge to TNA. As far as Bischoff, I was surprised to see him involved on screen and backstage, since he was supposed to be involved in the business side. But Easy E is a mad genius, if he's kept in check!

Rob VanDam blogged during impact, and said that while he had no plans to re enter wrestling at the moment, he would be watching what happens with TNA and WWE. Ken Anderson(mr kennedy), Matt Hardy, and Shane Helms are rumored to be heading to TNA soon, and there is interest in Tommy Dreamer and Paul Heyman.

For all those who are sick of the joke WWE puts out every week, and miss the good ole days of WCW, TNA has at least offered us a glimmer of hope!!!

lambertlunaticfan
01-11-2010, 12:57 AM
Wow-sorry about the novel ultimatebengal-I did'nt realize i wrote so much.Man you get me talking wrestling and my geek is showing.

lambertlunaticfan
01-11-2010, 01:09 AM
SUPAFLY-Come on tna has better looking woman on thier show right now.I am tried of hearing the stacy talk on here.She was'nt even the best looking in the old wcw or the wwe.She has long legs big deal so does a stork.They don't need her.You should watch this girl named "velvet sky" or angelina love (who makes her return) THE BEATUIFUL PEOPLE.They are the best woman in the history of wrestling.And once you see them you will be saying-stacy who??????-just kidding about the ripping on stacy,i was trying to be funny.But in all seriousness.I doubt they would bring her in as tna likes thier woman to actually be able to have some wrestling ability.And she can not wrestle at all.I mean that might change with hogan.But thier "knockouts" (what they call thier woman in tna) are suppose to be more than a just pretty face, they are that and can wreslte.And in the wwe they call thier women divas,and thats what they are,as they don't ask thier woman to be wreslters.Just sell the sex and leave the men to wrestle.I mean melina would get her pretty butt kicked if she came to tna.Seriously supa fly check out velvet and tell me what you think about her.if TNA gets stacy keibler to strip i'll watch.

supa_fly_steeler
01-11-2010, 02:58 AM
Stacy actually said she has interest in TNA, but hasn't heard from them! What the hell is up with that?

gimme her address ill... er talk to her about it.

Is TNA finally getting big im seeing adverts of them on my t.v.

TackleMeBen
01-11-2010, 09:13 AM
Pro wrestler indicted on drug charges

CARTHAGE — A North Carolina jury has indicted a professional wrestler on several drug-related charges.

The Fayetteville Observer reported Saturday that a Moore County grand jury returned the indictments for drug trafficking and possession with intent to sell against Jeff Hardy on Jan. 4

Hardy was arrested in September at his Carthage home. Authorities say they found hundreds of Vicodin pills, anabolic steroids and powder cocaine.

Hardy was suspended by World Wrestling Entertainment in 2008 for a second violation of drug policy.

He was later reinstated, won the WWE’s world heavyweight championship belt last summer, then left the league after losing his title in August.

http://www.thetimesnews.com/news/carthage-30850-charges-drug.html

UltimateBengal
01-11-2010, 09:15 PM
Wow-sorry about the novel ultimatebengal-I did'nt realize i wrote so much.Man you get me talking wrestling and my geek is showing.

No problem man. I can tell you're a hardcore wrestling fan! I love talking with people like you! Man, I started watching back in the Tommy Rich, Dusty Rhodes, Harley Race days of the NWA. I hate seeing what the WWE has become, that's why I'm really pulling for TNA. You had a lot of great thoughts in your earlier post. The only thing I really disagree with you about is Jeff Hardy. I agree the guy has made some horrible choices, BUT, and it's a big but, if he can keep his nose clean, he can get over like no other wrestler today, especially with the 18-29 crowd. And I agree with about Kennedy. His name will probably be Mr Anderson in TNA according to what I've read, but the guy is a very good wrestler and has a lot of charisma. That's what TNA needs more of! I would also love to see Tony Schiavone back at the broadcast table. He was always my favorite and is a 3 time broadcaster of the year!

lambertlunaticfan
01-12-2010, 03:33 AM
I will try to keep this one short.I guess we agree to disagree about jeff hardy.No harm in that as that's what is great about wreslting.We all have our favorites.I have never like jeff hardy,as all he has is being one to take a bump ,which does'nt embress me or new jack city would be world champ.Hardy brings nothing to the table like little ray what's his name in smackdown who the wwe keeps trying to put over.The fact is that they keep putting ray against the big guys like kane to put him over.Because they are smaller guys in the wwe he could wrestle.But they know that he would'nt go over if he wreslted someone his own size.And the only way he would go ver is to do that whole david vs goloeth gimmick,and come one its played out by now.And i guess i just don't have the humor it takes to appreciate the wwe anymore like horn-whatever and antics like that.See i grew up in the old awa days when wrestling was about the wrestlign and not the entertainment it is now.People go to hear them talk not to wrestle.Ok i guess i ied its not shorter-sorry.No problem man. I can tell you're a hardcore wrestling fan! I love talking with people like you! Man, I started watching back in the Tommy Rich, Dusty Rhodes, Harley Race days of the NWA. I hate seeing what the WWE has become, that's why I'm really pulling for TNA. You had a lot of great thoughts in your earlier post. The only thing I really disagree with you about is Jeff Hardy. I agree the guy has made some horrible choices, BUT, and it's a big but, if he can keep his nose clean, he can get over like no other wrestler today, especially with the 18-29 crowd. And I agree with about Kennedy. His name will probably be Mr Anderson in TNA according to what I've read, but the guy is a very good wrestler and has a lot of charisma. That's what TNA needs more of! I would also love to see Tony Schiavone back at the broadcast table. He was always my favorite and is a 3 time broadcaster of the year!

KeiselPower99
01-12-2010, 11:06 AM
I wathced both shows last Monday and TNA had better wrestling and overall was more exciting to watch. Only thing Raw had was the return of Bret Hart which to be honest was huge but not enough for me to keep watching. TNA brought out the big guns with Jeff Hardy and The Nature Boy Ric Flair. The "NWO" angle is gonna be short as Hall and Waltman are both on monthly contracts and are easy to get rid of. The one thing that got my attenton was when Jeff Jarrett came out to talk and Hogan interrupted him. There is gonna be a great angle right there in the next few months. Plus throw in Mick Foley and its gonna be interesting. I would love to see Mr. Kennedy show up as he was screwed over by the WWE. Hardy vs Styles for the TNA Title is the match alot of people are expecting come end of the spring time. I watched 5 minutes of Raw last night and its the same garbage every week.

lambertlunaticfan
01-13-2010, 03:30 AM
KEISELPOWER-I agree with you that wwe is the same old same old.But as i have said to COMPETE with the wwe,that tna has to do these things.Forget about that stubid octogon ring and go back to how it was when tna first started.Alot of pople don't know but tna when it first started used a normal ring.It was also a weekly ppv show and not on free or cable tv as it is now.But the most important things i think they have to do is.They have to have thier show live (its taped now) and they HAVE to have it on the same night as the wwe.And also and most important,they have to do thiers as the wwe does thiers and that's on the road a new place every week.But the problem is that tna does'nt have th bank that vince at the wwe does.So for that reason only i don't see them drawing much viewers away from the wwe.You can have the best talent and the best story lines and angles but if you not traveling to the poeple to see it live on your tv show than you can not compete with a company that is.And as for your comment about sean waltman,i am not sure what web site you got that information from about his contract with them.And for all you jeff hardy lovers,you do realize that he used to be on tna before,so its not new or anything for him to be on there.As most if not all including hogan has been on tna before.And as his recent legal troubles have shown you guys might need to find someone else to love besides him.As i think his wrestling days are over.

ARKIESTEEL
01-13-2010, 07:41 AM
Damn I must be old I hear pro wrestling and I think of Terry Funk, Dirty Dick Slader, Mad Dog Buzz Sawyer, Dusty Rhodes, Super Star Bill Dundee, The Midnight Express, The Road Warriors, The Minnisota Wrecking crew Ole and Arn Anderson. Magnum T A.....................the list could go on and on.....................

stlrtruck
01-13-2010, 08:30 AM
Damn I must be old I hear pro wrestling and I think of Terry Funk, Dirty Dick Slader, Mad Dog Buzz Sawyer, Dusty Rhodes, Super Star Bill Dundee, The Midnight Express, The Road Warriors, The Minnisota Wrecking crew Ole and Arn Anderson. Magnum T A.....................the list could go on and on.....................

How could you forget The Junk Yard Dog, Michael P.S. Hayes? :chuckle:

I think McMahon has gotten comfortable since the demise of the WCW. I should say takeover of the WCW. Since he monopolized the wrestling industry, there hasn't been much upstart to compete with him. I think he's forgotten what the fans want to see. Less chit chat and more action.

I'm not sure what truly caused the demise of the WCW but they had some great matches back in the day. Then it seemed it all started going south - and quickly!

Now those wrestlers who didn't get back in the WWE have found some support, and I do believe that if Vince doesn't change his MO then TNA could definitely take the #1 spot from him but they've got to be diligent and maintain their focus. Otherwise they'll rise and fall as quick as the WCW.

It's going to be interesting come Wrestlemania to see how far TNA can drop WWE from their weekly rankings. If the WWE doesn't come up with some good matches, then they'll quickly lose fans to TNA just based on some of the matches I've already seen over there.

UltimateBengal
01-13-2010, 07:52 PM
Damn I must be old I hear pro wrestling and I think of Terry Funk, Dirty Dick Slader, Mad Dog Buzz Sawyer, Dusty Rhodes, Super Star Bill Dundee, The Midnight Express, The Road Warriors, The Minnisota Wrecking crew Ole and Arn Anderson. Magnum T A.....................the list could go on and on.....................

The Buzz Sawyer-Tommy Rich streetfights were some of the greatest matches no one knows about. I also liked the Masked Superstar vs Mr Wrestling 2 days. Maniac Mark Lewin, Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen, and the Great Kabuki were some of my favorite characters. Man, those were the good ole days of rasslin!:thumbsup:

UltimateBengal
01-13-2010, 08:01 PM
KEISELPOWER-I agree with you that wwe is the same old same old.But as i have said to COMPETE with the wwe,that tna has to do these things.Forget about that stubid octogon ring and go back to how it was when tna first started.Alot of pople don't know but tna when it first started used a normal ring.It was also a weekly ppv show and not on free or cable tv as it is now.But the most important things i think they have to do is.They have to have thier show live (its taped now) and they HAVE to have it on the same night as the wwe.And also and most important,they have to do thiers as the wwe does thiers and that's on the road a new place every week.But the problem is that tna does'nt have th bank that vince at the wwe does.So for that reason only i don't see them drawing much viewers away from the wwe.You can have the best talent and the best story lines and angles but if you not traveling to the poeple to see it live on your tv show than you can not compete with a company that is.And as for your comment about sean waltman,i am not sure what web site you got that information from about his contract with them.And for all you jeff hardy lovers,you do realize that he used to be on tna before,so its not new or anything for him to be on there.As most if not all including hogan has been on tna before.And as his recent legal troubles have shown you guys might need to find someone else to love besides him.As i think his wrestling days are over.

You make a lot of good points man. Jeff Hardy was in TNA before, but his stay was short lived because of bad decisions on his part! Hogan was a part of a storyline promotion that never happened with Jeff Jarret. But now they have a chance to do it again. I also agree about TNA vs McMahon deep pockets. But, if TNA continues to do well and gets a Monday time slot, maybe their own billionaire owner Bob Carter will open the bank account like Ted Turner did with WCW. IMO, TNA's success against the WWE will depend on how much Carter is willing to spend.

By the way, there is a great interview with Rob Van Dam on Youtube where he talks about the WWE, TNA, , his drug bust with Sabu, and his thoughts on weed. It's a very cool interview did in his house with some amatuer wrestling reporter. Check it out if you get a chance. I also follow him on his site robvandam.com, and hope he will eventually be in TNA. He's one of my all time favs and one of the coolest cats ever!

Aussie_steeler
01-13-2010, 09:42 PM
I think TNA had to move to monday night to take WWE for one main reason.

Wrestling is a defined market, not one that attracts new viewers (outside of children). Therefore all the wrestling fans allocate Monday night to watch. Now if you have two shows to look at you are going to flip backwards and forwards and make a comparison. Let the viewers choose the better product.

Problem with every other night is that people are not going to have their wrestling hat on. Therefore they are not going to be looking for wrestling. It makes it much harder to attract new fans to your product.

Until TNA goes on the road they are not going to make huge inroads into the WWE market share.

Your fans are guys like you and me. We have watched wrestling forever and we just want to watch a product that is filled with good wrestling. If it is TNA or WWE I dont care, as long as it is 90% wrestling 10 % BS.

Wrestling is the male soap opera, I just wish for the days when it wasnt a soap opera on speed.

lambertlunaticfan
01-13-2010, 10:18 PM
ULTIMATEBENGAL-I don't think we are ever going to like the same people.I think that's funny,as i don't like rvd either.Again for the same reasons i don't like hardy.Stay off the darn pipe and focus on being a wrestler if that is what you want to be.My brother was a huge rvd fan when he was in the original ecw(not the joke it is now).But when rvd came out and focused on the whole pot thing it got my brother and me to not like him.But his wrestling abiltitys were always funny as noone when he got to the wwf/wwe wanted to wrestle him.As they would really take hits (sorry-not that kind of hits but actual hits) from him kicking etc.He got the reputation of not being able to work or carry a match.But in the ecw he sure was a high flyer ,rick taker and seemed to have great wrestling ability.And his matches vs jerry lynn were classic.Me and my brother were big fans of ecw.And i used to watch wcw over raw all the time.I think what killed wcw was funding.They just didnt have enough to keep up with the mountain of money vince and wwe were willing to use to get thier show and brand over.I agree with you,if tna decides to put all there money and effort and spike is willing to go with it they could compete.But again i think they need to make those changes i mentioned before in my other post here.I don't know how much money carter has complared to mcmahon.You make a lot of good points man. Jeff Hardy was in TNA before, but his stay was short lived because of bad decisions on his part! Hogan was a part of a storyline promotion that never happened with Jeff Jarret. But now they have a chance to do it again. I also agree about TNA vs McMahon deep pockets. But, if TNA continues to do well and gets a Monday time slot, maybe their own billionaire owner Bob Carter will open the bank account like Ted Turner did with WCW. IMO, TNA's success against the WWE will depend on how much Carter is willing to spend.

By the way, there is a great interview with Rob Van Dam on Youtube where he talks about the WWE, TNA, , his drug bust with Sabu, and his thoughts on weed. It's a very cool interview did in his house with some amatuer wrestling reporter. Check it out if you get a chance. I also follow him on his site robvandam.com, and hope he will eventually be in TNA. He's one of my all time favs and one of the coolest cats ever!

lambertlunaticfan
01-13-2010, 10:28 PM
AUSSIESTEELER-I agree with you.And in fact you made some of the same points that i had posted in a earlier post.For the tna to compete they have to be on the same night.Or then its not competeing.As you want to try to take there numbers away from the other.And if you have it on different nights.Well it can be the same people watching tna thursday that watched wwe on monday.And what you want to do is to have the tv crowd make a choice-tna or wwe.And also i mentioned they tna need to do thier weekly tv show on the road as wwe does.And they can not tape it as they do now.They have to do it live as wwe does.And lastly get a normal wreslting ring.I think it's always going to be more talk than wreslting.Its all about the talking that is done.Take a wwe,where there opening segment goes 10 mintues in to the show.And they don;t have thier first match until a 1/2 hour into thier show.And in a 2 hour raw,they only have like 4-5 actual wreslting matches.And most of the time is promos and going over what happen in the last weeks show.And in some cases they repeat the promos and the highlites of last weeks shows over and over.My brother told me that last mondays raw they did the highlites of last weeks show 3 times during the show.So in a 2 hour show you get a 1 hour of actual show.I think TNA had to move to monday night to take WWE for one main reason.

Wrestling is a defined market, not one that attracts new viewers (outside of children). Therefore all the wrestling fans allocate Monday night to watch. Now if you have two shows to look at you are going to flip backwards and forwards and make a comparison. Let the viewers choose the better product.

Problem with every other night is that people are not going to have their wrestling hat on. Therefore they are not going to be looking for wrestling. It makes it much harder to attract new fans to your product.

Until TNA goes on the road they are not going to make huge inroads into the WWE market share.

Your fans are guys like you and me. We have watched wrestling forever and we just want to watch a product that is filled with good wrestling. If it is TNA or WWE I dont care, as long as it is 90% wrestling 10 % BS.

Wrestling is the male soap opera, I just wish for the days when it wasnt a soap opera on speed.

lambertlunaticfan
01-13-2010, 10:34 PM
ULTIMATEBENGAL-So you guys want to talk old school.I will even go older as how about "the crusher"......vern gagne....greg gagne and jumping jimmy brunzell-the high flyers.See i grew up in the old days of the great awa.Jimmy blackwell and lord alfred haynes.The great nick bockwinkel.His matched with hulk hogan were classics.dick the bruiser....mad dog vachone.....but then i also remember the days of the old world class wreslting-with the von erics......one of the most classic matches i remember watching was kerry von eric beating ric flair at texas stadium....The Buzz Sawyer-Tommy Rich streetfights were some of the greatest matches no one knows about. I also liked the Masked Superstar vs Mr Wrestling 2 days. Maniac Mark Lewin, Bruiser Brody, Stan Hansen, and the Great Kabuki were some of my favorite characters. Man, those were the good ole days of rasslin!:thumbsup:

stlrtruck
01-14-2010, 09:12 AM
ULTIMATEBENGAL-So you guys want to talk old school.I will even go older as how about "the crusher"......vern gagne....greg gagne and jumping jimmy brunzell-the high flyers.See i grew up in the old days of the great awa.Jimmy blackwell and lord alfred haynes.The great nick bockwinkel.His matched with hulk hogan were classics.dick the bruiser....mad dog vachone.....but then i also remember the days of the old world class wreslting-with the von erics......one of the most classic matches i remember watching was kerry von eric beating ric flair at texas stadium....

I remember mad dog vachone. The von erics too.

I remember the old AWA when they use to have the interview podium about 20 feet from the ring. The original 4 horsemen.

lambertlunaticfan
01-15-2010, 03:12 AM
I just watched tonights "TAPED" tna show.And by the way as i have said they have to stop taping thier shows.And i think it's funny that hogan made it one week in a row on the show.As he was only on backstage in his "office" for his only segment tonight.Which is just funny to me,you can not make it 2 weeks with out taking a break from the show.I just thought he was going to be a active person on the show.And should be that for at least the 2nd show into the darn thing.I mean eric bishoff made a ring appearence.And the outsiders vs beer money in the first ppv for the new tna.Wow,i thought they would strech that out more before the outsiders wrestled.And that's the other thing, thier first ppv with hogan "running" the show is this sunday and he can no make it to the show before it that usally sells (hypes) the ppv.Not very smart to me.And who is this mystery person making thier first appearence at the ppv.Don't worry i am not saying anything,as i won't spoil things for anyone who might watch it.But as a show,tonight was ho-hum.It was not a improvement from last weeks show.I did love that angelina love returned.As i have said i have watched tna for years so that was big for me as the beautiful people (her tag team with velvet sky) is the best.And i hate von erics daugther who took her place when angelina had to go back to canada as she had visa problems.But hopefully she got that teken care and get that von eric out of there as she is just a pretty face and no wreslting talent..So she should go to barbie doll land in the wwe.

lambertlunaticfan
01-15-2010, 03:20 AM
The orginal 4 horsemen were in the nwa.Not sure if you thought they were awa.I remember as a kid going to a taping of thier awa weekly show they did in a studio.And i had the shek allahah casey or something like that.He was a manager.But thye used to wrestle thier shows at the old st paul civic center and the met center.And ther is classic footage of when hogan and bockwinkel would wrestle.And the lights would go on and the bell would just keep ringing and hogan had beaten him and the crowd was going crazy.I remember that as it was before the days of ppv.So you had to be there to see it.And that match was so big they actually sold out the arena next door called roy wilkins auditorium that had it on tv.I am talking the awa before the show that you see now on espn classic.I remember mad dog vachone. The von erics too.

I remember the old AWA when they use to have the interview podium about 20 feet from the ring. The original 4 horsemen.

stlrtruck
01-15-2010, 08:47 AM
The orginal 4 horsemen were in the nwa.Not sure if you thought they were awa.I remember as a kid going to a taping of thier awa weekly show they did in a studio.And i had the shek allahah casey or something like that.He was a manager.But thye used to wrestle thier shows at the old st paul civic center and the met center.And ther is classic footage of when hogan and bockwinkel would wrestle.And the lights would go on and the bell would just keep ringing and hogan had beaten him and the crowd was going crazy.I remember that as it was before the days of ppv.So you had to be there to see it.And that match was so big they actually sold out the arena next door called roy wilkins auditorium that had it on tv.I am talking the awa before the show that you see now on espn classic.

I thought the old AWA became Georgia Championship Wrestling which eventually became the NWA. Am I on the wrong path?

UltimateBengal
01-15-2010, 08:29 PM
I just watched tonights "TAPED" tna show.And by the way as i have said they have to stop taping thier shows.And i think it's funny that hogan made it one week in a row on the show.As he was only on backstage in his "office" for his only segment tonight.Which is just funny to me,you can not make it 2 weeks with out taking a break from the show.I just thought he was going to be a active person on the show.And should be that for at least the 2nd show into the darn thing.I mean eric bishoff made a ring appearence.And the outsiders vs beer money in the first ppv for the new tna.Wow,i thought they would strech that out more before the outsiders wrestled.And that's the other thing, thier first ppv with hogan "running" the show is this sunday and he can no make it to the show before it that usally sells (hypes) the ppv.Not very smart to me.And who is this mystery person making thier first appearence at the ppv.Don't worry i am not saying anything,as i won't spoil things for anyone who might watch it.But as a show,tonight was ho-hum.It was not a improvement from last weeks show.I did love that angelina love returned.As i have said i have watched tna for years so that was big for me as the beautiful people (her tag team with velvet sky) is the best.And i hate von erics daugther who took her place when angelina had to go back to canada as she had visa problems.But hopefully she got that teken care and get that von eric out of there as she is just a pretty face and no wreslting talent..So she should go to barbie doll land in the wwe.

I agree with you that Thursdays TNA Impact wasn't the best. But that's going to happen until they figure out storylines for all the new talent, and get the creative structure in place. Right now Bischoff and Hogan are still learning the ropes in TNA as far as talent and potential stories. Russo, Ferrera, and Matt Conway are still writing, while trying to incorporate ideas from Bischoff and Hogan. Then you have guys like Jarrett, Chris Park, and Mick Foley who have creative input. It's going to take a little time for the pieces to fall into place and start running smoothly.

As for Hogan not being there, he doesn't really need to. His contract calls for him to make a certain number of appearances this year, while doing promotional work and having creative input. The real mastermind is Bischoff. It's his vision that will take place. He will choose who stays, comes, and goes, with input from Hogan. Don't be fooled into thinking Hogan is in charge. It's Bichoff who made the deal with Spike and Bob Carter. And he is the one who negotiated Hogans deal.

As far as the mystery man at Genesis, my money is on Ken Anderson, but I could be wrong. Their has been a lot of talk about Sid showing up as well, which I hope doesn't happen. I hope it is Anderson, because this guy could be a bonafide superstar in TNA. There is also talk of another live Monday show on March 1st. TNA has to take things slowly and make sure they get it right. A lot of people want them to go on the road every week. I think they should take all PPVs on the road to better venues, but keep the weekly shows at the Impact Zone for now. Use the money to omprove the tv product and continue the advertising blitz.

lambertlunaticfan
01-16-2010, 03:58 AM
ULTIMATEBENGAL-Yeah i realize that hulk is'nt "running" things.Man would that be bad if he was the brains in this.And i realize that bischoff is the man behind the curtain and that hogan is the puppet.But for storyline purposes(and that what i was talking about)that he really should be there for at least the 2nd darn show.Especially a show leading up to the first ppv.As i have said before vince russo is the key here.But thats alot of people that have to get along and not have thier egos get in the way of a great show.See i am one of the few that loved wcw at the end.When vince and eric were writing themselves into storylines.And the best tna i have seen was in the first 26 shows there was a masked man causing problems.And would'nt you know is was vince.And i have those first shows on vhs tape and i love watching them.The one show the most as rowdy piper(who i hate) came out and had a "shoot" with vince in the ring.And piper actually blamed vince for the death of owen hart,i could not believe it.Anyway,i just think that with vinces writing and erics direction they can make tna a great show.I mean i already enjoyed it but with them they have the potential of even being a better show.JUST GET RID OF THAT DARN OCTOGON RING-THIS ISN'T THE FREAKIN' UFC.And as far as the mystery person for the ppv,and as i said i dont want to riun it for you or anyone that might watch it.And you are right about sid by the way as scott hall is really pushing for him.By the way speaking of hall they are really worried if his drinking is going to cause a problem.Did you see the little joke in the ring,when scott hall was saying about taking the beer from beer money.And the look on nash and waltmans face was oh-no.And nash even did a little pray thing with his hands like begging him not to do that.As i am sure you know that he has a history of no showing shows and ppvs.And this is really a concern for them.I disagree as i think they have to take the show on the road.But i understand what you are saying.But to me the most important thing as they can wait for the road thing but they have to do thier shows on the same night as the wwe.I agree with you that Thursdays TNA Impact wasn't the best. But that's going to happen until they figure out storylines for all the new talent, and get the creative structure in place. Right now Bischoff and Hogan are still learning the ropes in TNA as far as talent and potential stories. Russo, Ferrera, and Matt Conway are still writing, while trying to incorporate ideas from Bischoff and Hogan. Then you have guys like Jarrett, Chris Park, and Mick Foley who have creative input. It's going to take a little time for the pieces to fall into place and start running smoothly.

As for Hogan not being there, he doesn't really need to. His contract calls for him to make a certain number of appearances this year, while doing promotional work and having creative input. The real mastermind is Bischoff. It's his vision that will take place. He will choose who stays, comes, and goes, with input from Hogan. Don't be fooled into thinking Hogan is in charge. It's Bichoff who made the deal with Spike and Bob Carter. And he is the one who negotiated Hogans deal.

As far as the mystery man at Genesis, my money is on Ken Anderson, but I could be wrong. Their has been a lot of talk about Sid showing up as well, which I hope doesn't happen. I hope it is Anderson, because this guy could be a bonafide superstar in TNA. There is also talk of another live Monday show on March 1st. TNA has to take things slowly and make sure they get it right. A lot of people want them to go on the road every week. I think they should take all PPVs on the road to better venues, but keep the weekly shows at the Impact Zone for now. Use the money to omprove the tv product and continue the advertising blitz.

lambertlunaticfan
01-16-2010, 04:07 AM
I am pretty sure that nwa and awa was going on at the same time.And that georgia wreslting might have turned into world class wrestling.Again back then world class wrestling was a weekly tv show as i watched it every week from the sportaudtorium in texas.And i know that the awa went on into the 90's.As i said i think they have thier shows on espn classic from like the showboat in las vegas.And i know shawn micheals wrestled there as a tag team with marty jennity.And i think that world class went into nwa .But i am no expert so i might be worng about this.Hey as you brought it up can you name the original 4 horsemen and can you name all of the members that have ever been a horsemen.Now no cheating and going on google for it.I thought the old AWA became Georgia Championship Wrestling which eventually became the NWA. Am I on the wrong path?

UltimateBengal
01-16-2010, 06:10 PM
ULTIMATEBENGAL-Yeah i realize that hulk is'nt "running" things.Man would that be bad if he was the brains in this.And i realize that bischoff is the man behind the curtain and that hogan is the puppet.But for storyline purposes(and that what i was talking about)that he really should be there for at least the 2nd darn show.Especially a show leading up to the first ppv.As i have said before vince russo is the key here.But thats alot of people that have to get along and not have thier egos get in the way of a great show.See i am one of the few that loved wcw at the end.When vince and eric were writing themselves into storylines.And the best tna i have seen was in the first 26 shows there was a masked man causing problems.And would'nt you know is was vince.And i have those first shows on vhs tape and i love watching them.The one show the most as rowdy piper(who i hate) came out and had a "shoot" with vince in the ring.And piper actually blamed vince for the death of owen hart,i could not believe it.Anyway,i just think that with vinces writing and erics direction they can make tna a great show.I mean i already enjoyed it but with them they have the potential of even being a better show.JUST GET RID OF THAT DARN OCTOGON RING-THIS ISN'T THE FREAKIN' UFC.And as far as the mystery person for the ppv,and as i said i dont want to riun it for you or anyone that might watch it.And you are right about sid by the way as scott hall is really pushing for him.By the way speaking of hall they are really worried if his drinking is going to cause a problem.Did you see the little joke in the ring,when scott hall was saying about taking the beer from beer money.And the look on nash and waltmans face was oh-no.And nash even did a little pray thing with his hands like begging him not to do that.As i am sure you know that he has a history of no showing shows and ppvs.And this is really a concern for them.I disagree as i think they have to take the show on the road.But i understand what you are saying.But to me the most important thing as they can wait for the road thing but they have to do thier shows on the same night as the wwe.

I hope the Hall and Waltman can keep their act together. As you said Hall has a sorted history with alcohol and missing events. And Waltman has had his own problems with a domestic violence and menacing charge in the Chyna situation. The NWO reunion can be an effective part of TNA, if done properly and the guys are serious about it. About Sid, the latest pics I've seen of him make him look really old. If he does come in, I hope he's in shape. But, I'd rather not see him at all at this point. If Bischoff and Russo are smart about this, they will use the name veterans to really help sell and get over the younger guys. TNA has a ton of talent that is head and shoulders above WWE, IMO. I agree with you about the ring. The six sided ring made some sense in the early TNA because they needed to stand out, but at this point, they need to be more mainstream, and that means a four sided ring. Dixie Carter posted that she and Kevin Kay from Spike had meetings recently. Hopefully Spike has seen enough progress that it will soon put Impact on Mondays permanently. Then I think TNA will have an opportunity to really take a lot more chances and give wrestling fans a true alternative to WWE.

UltimateBengal
01-16-2010, 06:20 PM
I am pretty sure that nwa and awa was going on at the same time.And that georgia wreslting might have turned into world class wrestling.Again back then world class wrestling was a weekly tv show as i watched it every week from the sportaudtorium in texas.And i know that the awa went on into the 90's.As i said i think they have thier shows on espn classic from like the showboat in las vegas.And i know shawn micheals wrestled there as a tag team with marty jennity.And i think that world class went into nwa .But i am no expert so i might be worng about this.Hey as you brought it up can you name the original 4 horsemen and can you name all of the members that have ever been a horsemen.Now no cheating and going on google for it.

The AWA and NWA were two separate companies. The NWA had been around since 1905. They were parent brand of Georgia Championship Wresting. When Turner bought out Jim Crockett's stake of GCW, they became WCW, with the Crocketts maintaining the NWA brand, which became an independent promotion that now oversees many sub promotions. The AWA was founded somewhere around 1962-63 and was dissolved about 1990. There was had been talk about trying to revive an independent AWA brand, but I'm not sure what happened with that. McMahon purchased all the video rights for the old AWA matches and shows.

lambertlunaticfan
01-17-2010, 01:31 AM
I know for a fact that waltman is serious about being a active part of tna.And i know that he is commited to doing it.But hall is another story as he has those demons.I mean tna signed him because of nash being the booker for it.And he wanted hall so they let him bring him in a couple of years ago.And hall no showed a pay per view and nash said he was done with him.So i was surprised that nash and bischoff would give him yet another chance.He better not mess it up as that might be it for him.And i agree with you as i also think if done the right way the nwo can help tna beat the wwe.And by the way as you seem to know more than i do about this kind of insight into the inner workings of wreslting.Does the wwe own val venus,and if they do does that mean they also own his catch phrases.I thought it was strange that he said instead of his usually "hello ladies".He said something stubid like "ladies i am here"i don't know as i could'nt stop laughing by it.I know some wreslter buy thier names from the wwe or had partnership in them and were able to keep them.But people like val venus and mr kennedy must not have been able to take thier names with them.So does that mean that mr kennedy cant do his-mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....kenndy........kennedy.Be cause that was the best part of him.Yeah hopefully spike wants to also compete with usa.And get some balls as that was the problem with wcw,tnt did not want to lock horns with vince and wwe.I am happy to read you agree with me on the ring,but unlike you,i never liked it.As i never saw the point of it.We want to be different.Its still wrestling,thats like if the usfl would have played football on a circle field.I hope the Hall and Waltman can keep their act together. As you said Hall has a sorted history with alcohol and missing events. And Waltman has had his own problems with a domestic violence and menacing charge in the Chyna situation. The NWO reunion can be an effective part of TNA, if done properly and the guys are serious about it. About Sid, the latest pics I've seen of him make him look really old. If he does come in, I hope he's in shape. But, I'd rather not see him at all at this point. If Bischoff and Russo are smart about this, they will use the name veterans to really help sell and get over the younger guys. TNA has a ton of talent that is head and shoulders above WWE, IMO. I agree with you about the ring. The six sided ring made some sense in the early TNA because they needed to stand out, but at this point, they need to be more mainstream, and that means a four sided ring. Dixie Carter posted that she and Kevin Kay from Spike had meetings recently. Hopefully Spike has seen enough progress that it will soon put Impact on Mondays permanently. Then I think TNA will have an opportunity to really take a lot more chances and give wrestling fans a true alternative to WWE.

lambertlunaticfan
01-17-2010, 01:42 AM
Yeah i know that the awa and nwa were two seperate companies.And vince actually owns all the wcw and ecw and awa video vault.Thats why he comes out with those stubid dvds of them.But because the stories are told by people still under vince they can not really tell the stories.Like the ecw one was not really the insight that behind the mat gave us about vince and the way he is.And i could pick better matches than the ones they have on any of thier dvds like that.But i want to thank you for the details of this as i was not aware of most of this.On what wreslting became what and when.All i know is awa just kind of went away and went right into the wwf.I am not aware that the awa did a final show like wcw did.I think that the indy cards are kind of like the awa you are talking about.They should just put them all together and form that.But of course they can not call it that as vince owns the rights to the awa and ecw and wcw.And would'nt it be a shock if he buys tna.Don't think for a second he would'nt.I bet alot of people were shocked when they first heard he bought wcw.I know i was and was not happy about it.As i said i loved in the end how the wcw was going.The AWA and NWA were two separate companies. The NWA had been around since 1905. They were parent brand of Georgia Championship Wresting. When Turner bought out Jim Crockett's stake of GCW, they became WCW, with the Crocketts maintaining the NWA brand, which became an independent promotion that now oversees many sub promotions. The AWA was founded somewhere around 1962-63 and was dissolved about 1990. There was had been talk about trying to revive an independent AWA brand, but I'm not sure what happened with that. McMahon purchased all the video rights for the old AWA matches and shows.

lambertlunaticfan
01-18-2010, 12:58 AM
Well "ULTIMATEBENGAL"(i address this to you as we seem to be the only ones at the table anymore) Well anyways,SPOILER ALERT IF YOU DID NOT WATCH THE TNA PPV AND ARE PLANNING TO AS I AM GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IT HERE-SO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE RESULTS STOP READING......Well i sure hope you ordered that first hogan/bishoff tna ppv tonight.As i just got done watching it and it was sure worth the money for it.And the thing that got me the most excited was right away-A NORMAL WRESTLING RING-YES!!!!!!! they finally got rid of that stubid octogon ring and hopefully for good.I mean its wrestling,so have a wrestling.They must be reading my posts on here-just kidding..And would'nt you know it that hall did'nt wrestle.They had waltman (who also wanted to wait to make his debut but did'nt have a choice) wrestle with nash.As i guess hall thought his body looked too rough (fat) to wrestle.As thats the story being said,he didnt like the way he looked when he put on his trunks.What the heck,i mean did you not know that you might have to wrestle when you signed on to tna to wrestle.So get yourself into wrestle shape then.I don't see hall and waltman lasting long.As i just found out that nash did'nt even give tna his word to hire them.And said i have nothing to do with them.So i guess nash kept to his word,cause the last time hall no-showed hall said he was done with him.So i guess that still holds true.As he has said hall and waltman are not my doing.I was on teh understanding that nash was the one that hired them.Or told tna to hire them but i guess not.I can only think that if things go the way they always seem to go with hall and waltman for that matter.And both or one of them mess up that none of the heat will go to nash.And i can finally say the mystery man-of course it was....mr.......................kenn-no thats not it.....anderson....wait for it.......anderson.Man i love that guy and he won his match vs abyss.But of course they had mr anderson cheat to win it to save face for abyss.I think thats a strange opponent for anderson though.And i will be interestred to find out if the end of the outsiders/beer money match if that was real or work.If you didnt see it.At the end of the match hall who came ringside at the end of the match starts beating up a kid and waltman goes out there to stop it and they lose the match.By the way beer money win really puzzles me as why they would have the outsiders lose thier first match.As that takes away from the potential of them being a force.But all i can think of is cause of hall and waltman love for drugs and not playing by the rules they dont think niether will last long in the storylines so dont make along one for them.As they already had people in place if waltman no-showed or refused to wrestle.But anyway,a very good start for them.as i think it was a very good ppv especially being thier first and now if they can do thier shows on monday and go live with them.But a very good start getting rid of that darn stubid ring.I just love they went back to a normal ring even though alot of the wrestlers i guess hate it.

stlrtruck
01-18-2010, 10:16 AM
Well "ULTIMATEBENGAL"(i address this to you as we seem to be the only ones at the table anymore) Well anyways,SPOILER ALERT IF YOU DID NOT WATCH THE TNA PPV AND ARE PLANNING TO AS I AM GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT IT HERE-SO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW THE RESULTS STOP READING......Well i sure hope you ordered that first hogan/bishoff tna ppv tonight.As i just got done watching it and it was sure worth the money for it.And the thing that got me the most excited was right away-A NORMAL WRESTLING RING-YES!!!!!!! they finally got rid of that stubid octogon ring and hopefully for good.I mean its wrestling,so have a wrestling.They must be reading my posts on here-just kidding..And would'nt you know it that hall did'nt wrestle.They had waltman (who also wanted to wait to make his debut but did'nt have a choice) wrestle with nash.As i guess hall thought his body looked too rough (fat) to wrestle.As thats the story being said,he didnt like the way he looked when he put on his trunks.What the heck,i mean did you not know that you might have to wrestle when you signed on to tna to wrestle.So get yourself into wrestle shape then.I don't see hall and waltman lasting long.As i just found out that nash did'nt even give tna his word to hire them.And said i have nothing to do with them.So i guess nash kept to his word,cause the last time hall no-showed hall said he was done with him.So i guess that still holds true.As he has said hall and waltman are not my doing.I was on teh understanding that nash was the one that hired them.Or told tna to hire them but i guess not.I can only think that if things go the way they always seem to go with hall and waltman for that matter.And both or one of them mess up that none of the heat will go to nash.And i can finally say the mystery man-of course it was....mr.......................kenn-no thats not it.....anderson....wait for it.......anderson.Man i love that guy and he won his match vs abyss.But of course they had mr anderson cheat to win it to save face for abyss.I think thats a strange opponent for anderson though.And i will be interestred to find out if the end of the outsiders/beer money match if that was real or work.If you didnt see it.At the end of the match hall who came ringside at the end of the match starts beating up a kid and waltman goes out there to stop it and they lose the match.By the way beer money win really puzzles me as why they would have the outsiders lose thier first match.As that takes away from the potential of them being a force.But all i can think of is cause of hall and waltman love for drugs and not playing by the rules they dont think niether will last long in the storylines so dont make along one for them.As they already had people in place if waltman no-showed or refused to wrestle.But anyway,a very good start for them.as i think it was a very good ppv especially being thier first and now if they can do thier shows on monday and go live with them.But a very good start getting rid of that darn stubid ring.I just love they went back to a normal ring even though alot of the wrestlers i guess hate it.


Just so you know, Ultimate Bengal isn't the only one at the table. I just haven't had a chance to catch up on TNA to speak about it. I'm still following the conversation. :drink:

UB, thanks for the throwback history lesson on the AWA and NWA. I definitely didn't have that much background on the two. I just remember watching what was Georgia Championship Wrestling for the longest time. I would definitely call them the pioneers of some of the matches we see today. I remember a few barbed wire fence matches and few others that put extreme on the map.

UltimateBengal
01-18-2010, 09:16 PM
I know for a fact that waltman is serious about being a active part of tna.And i know that he is commited to doing it.But hall is another story as he has those demons.I mean tna signed him because of nash being the booker for it.And he wanted hall so they let him bring him in a couple of years ago.And hall no showed a pay per view and nash said he was done with him.So i was surprised that nash and bischoff would give him yet another chance.He better not mess it up as that might be it for him.And i agree with you as i also think if done the right way the nwo can help tna beat the wwe.And by the way as you seem to know more than i do about this kind of insight into the inner workings of wreslting.Does the wwe own val venus,and if they do does that mean they also own his catch phrases.I thought it was strange that he said instead of his usually "hello ladies".He said something stubid like "ladies i am here"i don't know as i could'nt stop laughing by it.I know some wreslter buy thier names from the wwe or had partnership in them and were able to keep them.But people like val venus and mr kennedy must not have been able to take thier names with them.So does that mean that mr kennedy cant do his-mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....kenndy........kennedy.Be cause that was the best part of him.Yeah hopefully spike wants to also compete with usa.And get some balls as that was the problem with wcw,tnt did not want to lock horns with vince and wwe.I am happy to read you agree with me on the ring,but unlike you,i never liked it.As i never saw the point of it.We want to be different.Its still wrestling,thats like if the usfl would have played football on a circle field.

Lambertlunaticfan-I agree with everything you said about the NWO. And I was disappointed that Hall didn't wrestle. But reports are that he want to get in a little better shape first, which I'm cool with. I don't want him to embarrass himself. Overall I was a little disappointed with Genesis. The "superstar" debut wasn't much of a surprise because of the loose lipped Bubba the love sponge. Mr. Anderson looked a little rusty, but it hard to have a great wrestling match with Abyss! Hopefully Against All Odds will be better, as they will have another month to develop storylines.

About Sean Morley, not only does Vince own the name Val Venus, but he also owns the phrase Hello Ladies! I wish they hadn't brought him in at all. He doesn't bring anything to the table. Kennedy can use the name Mr Kennedy or Ken Kennedy because he used them before WWE. But, on his Twitter, he said he decided to use Mr Anderson because he liked the way it sounded, drawing on a Matrix reference.

UltimateBengal
01-18-2010, 09:22 PM
Yeah i know that the awa and nwa were two seperate companies.And vince actually owns all the wcw and ecw and awa video vault.Thats why he comes out with those stubid dvds of them.But because the stories are told by people still under vince they can not really tell the stories.Like the ecw one was not really the insight that behind the mat gave us about vince and the way he is.And i could pick better matches than the ones they have on any of thier dvds like that.But i want to thank you for the details of this as i was not aware of most of this.On what wreslting became what and when.All i know is awa just kind of went away and went right into the wwf.I am not aware that the awa did a final show like wcw did.I think that the indy cards are kind of like the awa you are talking about.They should just put them all together and form that.But of course they can not call it that as vince owns the rights to the awa and ecw and wcw.And would'nt it be a shock if he buys tna.Don't think for a second he would'nt.I bet alot of people were shocked when they first heard he bought wcw.I know i was and was not happy about it.As i said i loved in the end how the wcw was going.

The only way Vince could buy TNA is if Bob Carter decides to sell, which hopefully never happens. Carter is a billionaire and TNA is his daughters baby, so hopefully it will never happen. When TimeWarner bought out Ted Turner, I knew bad things were coming. TimeWarner only cares about the bottom line, not the wrestling industry. Bischoff came very, very close to buying WCW then as a part of Fusient Media. But, TNT would not commit to a new TV deal, and along the greedy bastard Vince. Man, I hate what he has done to the industry!!! Great taling rasslin with ya man!

UltimateBengal
01-18-2010, 09:24 PM
Just so you know, Ultimate Bengal isn't the only one at the table. I just haven't had a chance to catch up on TNA to speak about it. I'm still following the conversation. :drink:

UB, thanks for the throwback history lesson on the AWA and NWA. I definitely didn't have that much background on the two. I just remember watching what was Georgia Championship Wrestling for the longest time. I would definitely call them the pioneers of some of the matches we see today. I remember a few barbed wire fence matches and few others that put extreme on the map.

No problem Truck. Me, Lambertlunatifan, you, and Kieselpower ARE the roundtable I think!

lambertlunaticfan
01-18-2010, 11:15 PM
STLRTRUCK-I know that your at the table but me and "ULTIMATE" have always been at it.If you would just sit down and not keep getting up away from it i would have included you.Now i am just playing with you,just kidding,a joke.I was just giving you a hard time-sorry i missed on the joke.It's tough on a forum to express when you are joking.Noone gets my humor in person either so thats alright.Anyway,i am glad you are at the table with me and "the ultimate".And have either of you guys ever watched the movie "the wreslter"if notyou have to watch that,as it's really good.And not just cause melissa tomia is naked.But it's a great insight to wrestling.Just so you know, Ultimate Bengal isn't the only one at the table. I just haven't had a chance to catch up on TNA to speak about it. I'm still following the conversation. :drink:

UB, thanks for the throwback history lesson on the AWA and NWA. I definitely didn't have that much background on the two. I just remember watching what was Georgia Championship Wrestling for the longest time. I would definitely call them the pioneers of some of the matches we see today. I remember a few barbed wire fence matches and few others that put extreme on the map.

lambertlunaticfan
01-18-2010, 11:21 PM
ULTIMATEBENGAL-Well please get "kieselpower" to sit at the darn table then.As i would love to hear what they think about things.Come on kieselpower sit back down and share.I mean the more the better.I think ultimate and truck are going to get tired of just hearing from me.:blah:No problem Truck. Me, Lambertlunatifan, you, and Kieselpower ARE the roundtable I think!

Aussie_steeler
01-18-2010, 11:24 PM
No problem Truck. Me, Lambertlunatifan, you, and Kieselpower ARE the roundtable I think!

Hope you dont mind if I chime in occasionally. Unfortunately I dont watch much anymore. I am still kinda stuck in the 90's.

I spend all day at work dealing with Gen Y and I am tired of watching Gen Y wrestling stories. John Cena and his hand wave does nothing for me.

Give me a Perry Saturn Death Valley Driver anyday of the week. ( interesting read about the tragic end to his career - just google him if interested)

lambertlunaticfan
01-18-2010, 11:37 PM
Wow,i really did not mean to upset people by making that comment to "ultimate".I said it joking,come on people.Aussie-anytime you want to chime in i would love to hear from you.You certainley do not need my permission.I am sorry i said that.:doh:Hope you dont mind if I chime in occasionally. Unfortunately I dont watch much anymore. I am still kinda stuck in the 90's.

I spend all day at work dealing with Gen Y and I am tired of watching Gen Y wrestling stories. John Cena and his hand wave does nothing for me.

Give me a Perry Saturn Death Valley Driver anyday of the week. ( interesting read about the tragic end to his career - just google him if interested)

lambertlunaticfan
01-18-2010, 11:43 PM
ultimatebengal-Did you read my post about what i thought of the ppv.Unlike you i was not that dissapointed.I thought it was better than the other tna ppv's i have seen.But then that could be because it's new.I forgot to mention,did'nt vince say something about that the nwo would never be seen on a wreslting program again.Remember in 2007 when hall no-showed that ppv and then the tape was shown of hogan and hall watching the ppv at thier hotel.I guess people at tna forgot about that.They have the clip on youtube if you never saw it.And speaking of it,if you want to see the most extreme thing (at least the most extreme i have seen in wrestling) go on there and type in -xpw-new jack vs vic grimes.It's amazing.Lambertlunaticfan-I agree with everything you said about the NWO. And I was disappointed that Hall didn't wrestle. But reports are that he want to get in a little better shape first, which I'm cool with. I don't want him to embarrass himself. Overall I was a little disappointed with Genesis. The "superstar" debut wasn't much of a surprise because of the loose lipped Bubba the love sponge. Mr. Anderson looked a little rusty, but it hard to have a great wrestling match with Abyss! Hopefully Against All Odds will be better, as they will have another month to develop storylines.

About Sean Morley, not only does Vince own the name Val Venus, but he also owns the phrase Hello Ladies! I wish they hadn't brought him in at all. He doesn't bring anything to the table. Kennedy can use the name Mr Kennedy or Ken Kennedy because he used them before WWE. But, on his Twitter, he said he decided to use Mr Anderson because he liked the way it sounded, drawing on a Matrix reference.

lambertlunaticfan
01-18-2010, 11:46 PM
ultimatebengal-I know you saw the tna ppv so i thought i would ask you as truck did not say he watched it.But in my post reviewing the ppv i asked if that hall fan fight was work or real.Do you know????:noidea:

Aussie_steeler
01-19-2010, 12:09 AM
Wow,i really did not mean to upset people by making that comment to "ultimate".I said it joking,come on people.Aussie-anytime you want to chime in i would love to hear from you.You certainley do not need my permission.I am sorry i said that.:doh:

Sorry mate - my intent was lost in the translation. ( Chime in means that I wont be around much but i might try to drop by occasionally.)

You didnt upset me at all. I wasnt seeking permission, I was just showing that I enjoy the round table and that a few more people should come out of the closet and confess their wrestling allegiances.

I have been enjoying the dialouge between you guys. I never really got a chance to see original NWA or AWA. I got my fix by saving my money and buying the Pro Wrestling Illustrated magazines to see the progress that was being made in the other federations. PPV's were a non event out here. We had to wait 6 months for the videos to make it to a video store. Therefore the depth of my knowledge is limited

All we got served in my teens ( 80's) was WWF and it was very generic and predictable. When we finally got WCW wrestling finally improved for me.

I once taught a child with Aspergers Autism and he could recall every WWE match of the Undertaker era. Any show, any card, any wrestler.........he was good fun to teach as every classroom analogy I used had to relate to a wrestler, a match or an angle.
He was 14 years old when his world came crashing down on him. He finally came across the term KAYFABE and upon loads more reading and net surfing he discovered what truly happened in wrestling. He was shattered. But he quickly related his new discovery to his similar views on the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. What harm would it really do if he continued to believe ..... just a little ( when he needed to)

Keep up the great dialouge guys.............i love reading it.:thumbsup:

stlrtruck
01-19-2010, 10:29 AM
STLRTRUCK-I know that your at the table but me and "ULTIMATE" have always been at it.If you would just sit down and not keep getting up away from it i would have included you.Now i am just playing with you,just kidding,a joke.I was just giving you a hard time-sorry i missed on the joke.It's tough on a forum to express when you are joking.Noone gets my humor in person either so thats alright.Anyway,i am glad you are at the table with me and "the ultimate".And have either of you guys ever watched the movie "the wreslter"if notyou have to watch that,as it's really good.And not just cause melissa tomia is naked.But it's a great insight to wrestling.

Yeah sometimes it is difficult to catch the joke on the forum too. No worries, I'm not hurt by it :chuckle:

I saw the movie The Wrestler. I thought it was pretty good.

As for TNA, I finally watched last Thursday's show and I've gotta say I'm not impressed with the drama. If they are seriously wanting to compete against WWE, they need to stop the drama and get more wrestling. The WWE went from wrestling to too much drama almost over night. TNA has a chance to rival them quickly if they can end the drama and move in to better matches.

Has anyone heard on Goldberg? What he's been up to lately? I wonder if he's willing to come back?

UltimateBengal
01-19-2010, 05:58 PM
ultimatebengal-I know you saw the tna ppv so i thought i would ask you as truck did not say he watched it.But in my post reviewing the ppv i asked if that hall fan fight was work or real.Do you know????:noidea:

They're saying now that is was work. I thought is was real at first just because of Hall's rep, but who knows?

UltimateBengal
01-19-2010, 05:59 PM
ultimatebengal-Did you read my post about what i thought of the ppv.Unlike you i was not that dissapointed.I thought it was better than the other tna ppv's i have seen.But then that could be because it's new.I forgot to mention,did'nt vince say something about that the nwo would never be seen on a wreslting program again.Remember in 2007 when hall no-showed that ppv and then the tape was shown of hogan and hall watching the ppv at thier hotel.I guess people at tna forgot about that.They have the clip on youtube if you never saw it.And speaking of it,if you want to see the most extreme thing (at least the most extreme i have seen in wrestling) go on there and type in -xpw-new jack vs vic grimes.It's amazing.

Yeah, I've seen that a few times, it's crazy!

UltimateBengal
01-19-2010, 06:02 PM
Sorry mate - my intent was lost in the translation. ( Chime in means that I wont be around much but i might try to drop by occasionally.)

You didnt upset me at all. I wasnt seeking permission, I was just showing that I enjoy the round table and that a few more people should come out of the closet and confess their wrestling allegiances.

I have been enjoying the dialouge between you guys. I never really got a chance to see original NWA or AWA. I got my fix by saving my money and buying the Pro Wrestling Illustrated magazines to see the progress that was being made in the other federations. PPV's were a non event out here. We had to wait 6 months for the videos to make it to a video store. Therefore the depth of my knowledge is limited

All we got served in my teens ( 80's) was WWF and it was very generic and predictable. When we finally got WCW wrestling finally improved for me.

I once taught a child with Aspergers Autism and he could recall every WWE match of the Undertaker era. Any show, any card, any wrestler.........he was good fun to teach as every classroom analogy I used had to relate to a wrestler, a match or an angle.
He was 14 years old when his world came crashing down on him. He finally came across the term KAYFABE and upon loads more reading and net surfing he discovered what truly happened in wrestling. He was shattered. But he quickly related his new discovery to his similar views on the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. What harm would it really do if he continued to believe ..... just a little ( when he needed to)

Keep up the great dialouge guys.............i love reading it.:thumbsup:

Couldn't agree more Aussie, I know there are more wrestling fans on here than what we have at the Roundtable! Come on out guys!!!:drink:

lambertlunaticfan
01-20-2010, 12:42 AM
No problem here my friend.I am just glad you were not feeling left out of the table.As we love having you here.Yeah you would think there would be more wrestling fans.But i had a freind who loved wreslting but just would not admit it to anyone but me and my brother.We went to summerslam and he boguth a rock baseball jersey for like $100 and i told him arent you going to put it on.And he said no he didnt want anyone to think he like wreslting.And he said this as he was at a wrestling show.So he bought a shirt to wear around the house i guess.I always thought the wwf/wwe toured down there.And i know hogans tour the "hulkamania" tours was there before he got into tna.By the way are you trying to say that wrestling and the easter bunny and santa are not real,what are you saying here??????Please tell me!!!!!!!!!!!!Sorry mate - my intent was lost in the translation. ( Chime in means that I wont be around much but i might try to drop by occasionally.)

You didnt upset me at all. I wasnt seeking permission, I was just showing that I enjoy the round table and that a few more people should come out of the closet and confess their wrestling allegiances.

I have been enjoying the dialouge between you guys. I never really got a chance to see original NWA or AWA. I got my fix by saving my money and buying the Pro Wrestling Illustrated magazines to see the progress that was being made in the other federations. PPV's were a non event out here. We had to wait 6 months for the videos to make it to a video store. Therefore the depth of my knowledge is limited

All we got served in my teens ( 80's) was WWF and it was very generic and predictable. When we finally got WCW wrestling finally improved for me.

I once taught a child with Aspergers Autism and he could recall every WWE match of the Undertaker era. Any show, any card, any wrestler.........he was good fun to teach as every classroom analogy I used had to relate to a wrestler, a match or an angle.
He was 14 years old when his world came crashing down on him. He finally came across the term KAYFABE and upon loads more reading and net surfing he discovered what truly happened in wrestling. He was shattered. But he quickly related his new discovery to his similar views on the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. What harm would it really do if he continued to believe ..... just a little ( when he needed to)

Keep up the great dialouge guys.............i love reading it.:thumbsup:

lambertlunaticfan
01-20-2010, 12:50 AM
stlrtruck-I am glad you were not upset i left you out of the table.The problem with doing less drama and more wrestling.Is that only people of our age who remembers when wrestling was wrestling are not thier audience anymore.The wwe have already said they main focus is 5-15 year olds.And they don;t want to see wrestling they want to hear them talk and the drama of it.Like in all sports it's not about the product of the field its the show around it.Its the reason new stadiums need bigger and better things to it.As people dont got there for the game they go for the show.I mean we are getting a new baseball field here.And i can not tell you how many stories and even in the newspapers (there was another one intodays newspaper in fact) are stores about the food thats going to servied there.I know i went way off topic.But my point is i wish we could go back to whats going on in the ring as far as wrestling and less talking but i think those days of that are behind us.I mean watch a raw and just tape in a 2 hour show how much actual wrestling there is.It will surprise you.As its all drama now.But i am like you as i hate when they overboard with it.And as far as goldberg,he just signed on to do donald trump's show.Yeah sometimes it is difficult to catch the joke on the forum too. No worries, I'm not hurt by it :chuckle:

I saw the movie The Wrestler. I thought it was pretty good.

As for TNA, I finally watched last Thursday's show and I've gotta say I'm not impressed with the drama. If they are seriously wanting to compete against WWE, they need to stop the drama and get more wrestling. The WWE went from wrestling to too much drama almost over night. TNA has a chance to rival them quickly if they can end the drama and move in to better matches.

Has anyone heard on Goldberg? What he's been up to lately? I wonder if he's willing to come back?

lambertlunaticfan
01-20-2010, 12:57 AM
Man i thought it was real and not work.I am usually pretty good at telling the differnece.Not to go off topic but have to tell you this story.Like i said i am usaully good at telling work from real but i remember that very sad day with owen hart and i thought it was work.I had taped it as i had to go to a movie with my girlfriend.And i get home and walk up the steps and my one brother who i watch wrestling with has this look on his face.And it was a very sad look.And i am like what is going on with you.And he just said owen died.And i just got chills just writing this as i remember it like it was yesterday.And i just kept saying no he did'nt.And i still was not conviced until the next day on raw and i said they is no way they are working it that hard like that.I mean when i saw debra and jarret-wow.And she lost it on the ppv as they came on right after it.And jarrett had to try to keep her in charector.Did you ever see that ppv.It is the worse i am just surprised no video or photos were leaked from it.I am just glad it did'nt happen live on tv.I had a freind who was at it.And he said it was the grossing thing ever.But anyway back to topic.Yeah i really thought hall was beating up a fan.They're saying now that is was work. I thought is was real at first just because of Hall's rep, but who knows?

lambertlunaticfan
01-20-2010, 01:00 AM
Isnt that the sickest thing you have seen in wrestling.I could not believe it when i saw it.I had to watch it over and over and over again.Can you inmagine if you were wrestling vs new jack and you were that guy.And you;re in the production meeting-WAIT-YOU WANT TO ME TO DO WHAT???.[/B]
Yeah, I've seen that a few times, it's crazy!

MACH1
01-20-2010, 01:43 AM
Yeah sometimes it is difficult to catch the joke on the forum too. No worries, I'm not hurt by it :chuckle:

I saw the movie The Wrestler. I thought it was pretty good.

As for TNA, I finally watched last Thursday's show and I've gotta say I'm not impressed with the drama. If they are seriously wanting to compete against WWE, they need to stop the drama and get more wrestling. The WWE went from wrestling to too much drama almost over night. TNA has a chance to rival them quickly if they can end the drama and move in to better matches.

Has anyone heard on Goldberg? What he's been up to lately? I wonder if he's willing to come back?

The last I seen of Goldberg, he was doing a hotrod series on TLC and another car show on the History Channel (I think it was). As long as he's not hurting for money I doubt he'll go back to wrestling.

UltimateBengal
01-20-2010, 05:10 PM
Man i thought it was real and not work.I am usually pretty good at telling the differnece.Not to go off topic but have to tell you this story.Like i said i am usaully good at telling work from real but i remember that very sad day with owen hart and i thought it was work.I had taped it as i had to go to a movie with my girlfriend.And i get home and walk up the steps and my one brother who i watch wrestling with has this look on his face.And it was a very sad look.And i am like what is going on with you.And he just said owen died.And i just got chills just writing this as i remember it like it was yesterday.And i just kept saying no he did'nt.And i still was not conviced until the next day on raw and i said they is no way they are working it that hard like that.I mean when i saw debra and jarret-wow.And she lost it on the ppv as they came on right after it.And jarrett had to try to keep her in charector.Did you ever see that ppv.It is the worse i am just surprised no video or photos were leaked from it.I am just glad it did'nt happen live on tv.I had a freind who was at it.And he said it was the grossing thing ever.But anyway back to topic.Yeah i really thought hall was beating up a fan.

Like I said, who knows with Hall. It may have been real and there just covering his ass. There was a real backstage fight though, between Awesome Kong and Bubba the Love Sponge, over his comments about Haiti. Kong was sent home. Damn, she could of probably whipped Bubba's ass all over the ImpactZone!!!:sofunny:

UltimateBengal
01-20-2010, 05:12 PM
The last I seen of Goldberg, he was doing a hotrod series on TLC and another car show on the History Channel (I think it was). As long as he's not hurting for money I doubt he'll go back to wrestling.

I agree Mach. I don't see Goldberg coming back any time soon, if ever. Plus, if TNA brought him in, he would want to get over on the younger guys, which wouldn't help TNA at this point.

lambertlunaticfan
01-20-2010, 10:22 PM
ULTIMATE-Someone redid thier pictures.Looks good my friend.Anyways,I really think that hall incident was real.And as far as that bubba comment i will just leave it at -its not what you say,it's how you say it.And i won't give my thought as i am sure i will get blasted on what i think about that whole thing.Lets keep this the one friendly thread on here.:thumbsup:Like I said, who knows with Hall. It may have been real and there just covering his ass. There was a real backstage fight though, between Awesome Kong and Bubba the Love Sponge, over his comments about Haiti. Kong was sent home. Damn, she could of probably whipped Bubba's ass all over the ImpactZone!!!:sofunny:

UltimateBengal
01-20-2010, 10:32 PM
ULTIMATE-Someone redid thier pictures.Looks good my friend.Anyways,I really think that hall incident was real.And as far as that bubba comment i will just leave it at -its not what you say,it's how you say it.And i won't give my thought as i am sure i will get blasted on what i think about that whole thing.Lets keep this the one friendly thread on here.:thumbsup:

Thanks man. The Hall thing could've been real and TNA is just covering for him. I'm hoping that's not the case. I agree about the Bubba thing. I won't touch that at all. But I do think Kong could whip him!:chuckle:Also Doug Williams won the X Division title at last nights Impact taping, and Samoa Joe will face Styles at Against all Odds. It's about time they get Joe involved.

lambertlunaticfan
01-20-2010, 11:12 PM
ULTIMATE-You got to say-SPOLIER ALERT-before you give a result from the taping man-just kidding.I don't really get into the "x" division.And yeah it's been awhile since joe has been oin a major storyline.He kind of has taken a backseat.And where is big poppa in all of this.That mafia thing i miss as i thought it was pretty neat.I wonder when hall and waltman go bye-bye if they will ring the mafia back.Heck they could back the last nwo if they brought bret hart in there-as i believe the last nwo (in wcw that is) was bret hart,kevin nash,scott hall and big poppa pump.I remember a nitro that i loved with them.I was trying to hunt down a tape of it when i was building my wrestling tape libary.It was at i believe the astrodome and they had a monster truck there.Man i loved the wcw at the end with the greatest tag team-KRONIC.And then they was a group with sean o'haire-the natural born thrillers.I loved those guys.Man that o'haire was a monster.Yeah i am leaving that bubba thing alone.And i hate kong as she can not wrestle.Thanks man. The Hall thing could've been real and TNA is just covering for him. I'm hoping that's not the case. I agree about the Bubba thing. I won't touch that at all. But I do think Kong could whip him!:chuckle:Also Doug Williams won the X Division title at last nights Impact taping, and Samoa Joe will face Styles at Against all Odds. It's about time they get Joe involved.

UltimateBengal
01-21-2010, 01:25 PM
ULTIMATE-You got to say-SPOLIER ALERT-before you give a result from the taping man-just kidding.I don't really get into the "x" division.And yeah it's been awhile since joe has been oin a major storyline.He kind of has taken a backseat.And where is big poppa in all of this.That mafia thing i miss as i thought it was pretty neat.I wonder when hall and waltman go bye-bye if they will ring the mafia back.Heck they could back the last nwo if they brought bret hart in there-as i believe the last nwo (in wcw that is) was bret hart,kevin nash,scott hall and big poppa pump.I remember a nitro that i loved with them.I was trying to hunt down a tape of it when i was building my wrestling tape libary.It was at i believe the astrodome and they had a monster truck there.Man i loved the wcw at the end with the greatest tag team-KRONIC.And then they was a group with sean o'haire-the natural born thrillers.I loved those guys.Man that o'haire was a monster.Yeah i am leaving that bubba thing alone.And i hate kong as she can not wrestle.

I thought the Mafia was cool as well. There have been rumors that Stiener has some injury problems he's dealing with. I miss the WCW as well. I felt sick when it was announced that Vince bought them! Kronic was a cool team. Too bad about Bryan Adams dying. And Bryan Clark apparently has major back problems. Wrestlers usually end up suffering a great deal when they retire. I saw where you mentioned the movie "The Wrestler" earlier. That was a great movie. There's an interesting video on youtube called "The Wrestler Roundtable" where Luger, Valentine, Piper, DDP, and Beefcake talk about the movie.

supa_fly_steeler
01-21-2010, 01:58 PM
Anyone remember Evolution featuring Randy Orton, Triple H, Ric Flair and Batista. When u look at that stable back when it started in 2003, there were really only 2 big names and 2 uprising names, now there all probably hall of famers lol.

Venom
01-21-2010, 03:48 PM
I havent seen Wrestling for a while but I remember seeing the tattoo on the Undertakers neck that said " Sara " . On Monday's Raw , I saw it was missing. I guess that was his girlfriend or something . Was that part of a storyline ?. Sorry if this is a stupid question . :popcorn:

touchdownward
01-21-2010, 09:51 PM
I havent seen Wrestling for a while but I remember seeing the tattoo on the Undertakers neck that said " Sara " . On Monday's Raw , I saw it was missing. I guess that was his girlfriend or something . Was that part of a storyline ?. Sorry if this is a stupid question . :popcorn:
That is his wife's name. They probably cover it because it would take away from his "dead man" character having a woman's name tatooed on his neck.

lambertlunaticfan
01-22-2010, 12:43 AM
ULTIMATE-Yeah scott has some series back problems.Has had them for aawhile-I remember hearing that the guy needs to strech out for like a hour before a match.And the other wreslter would see it and wonder why he still puts himself threw that pain just to wrestle.Yeah,don;t get me started on bryan adams passing away and all the death to wrestlers.Just look at my priviuos post that i posted on this thread when umaga passed away.Its a darn shame that all these men are dyeing in the prime of thier lifes because of a sport.If that was happening in football they would shut down the darn sport.The pain these guy and girls put thier body threw just to play a sport that most people think is a joke is just sad.But anway,did lugar on there say anything about elizabeth on there?.I thought the Mafia was cool as well. There have been rumors that Stiener has some injury problems he's dealing with. I miss the WCW as well. I felt sick when it was announced that Vince bought them! Kronic was a cool team. Too bad about Bryan Adams dying. And Bryan Clark apparently has major back problems. Wrestlers usually end up suffering a great deal when they retire. I saw where you mentioned the movie "The Wrestler" earlier. That was a great movie. There's an interesting video on youtube called "The Wrestler Roundtable" where Luger, Valentine, Piper, DDP, and Beefcake talk about the movie.

lambertlunaticfan
01-22-2010, 12:48 AM
Not sure why they would cover it up now for a story line.As he has been that "deadman" gimmick for his whole career.And they used to show it.I don't watch wwe so i don;t know.Is he still doing that eyes rolled back and tongue sticking out thing.Aint nothing like sticking to a gimmick and beating a gimmick into the ground.Might as well call him the "dead horse man"..And aint anything more sexy than a 50 year old guy sticking out his tongue.I hate when gene simmons of kiss still does that darn tongue thing.That is his wife's name. They probably cover it because it would take away from his "dead man" character having a woman's name tatooed on his neck.

lambertlunaticfan
01-22-2010, 12:53 AM
Evolution to me ranks right up there with the mafia.Gimmicks that were really great.But ended way to soon.There is a thin line between holding onto a gimmick way too long(dx) and not giving it the time it need to go over like those.And the evolution thing really did not last very long.And i loved it.The funny thing is that all happen by accident.As ric flair was suppose to be stone colds manager and stone cold left wwe cause of it.As he didnt want ric flair to do that.So instead they told stone cold do it or leave.So he left.And then they teamed flair up with triple h and than the reast is history-or evolution.I am not sure that the "lol" is ment by in your post.I mean if you are being serious,yes they are all hall of famers.Or is the whole post just a joke to you.:noidea:Anyone remember Evolution featuring Randy Orton, Triple H, Ric Flair and Batista. When u look at that stable back when it started in 2003, there were really only 2 big names and 2 uprising names, now there all probably hall of famers lol.

lambertlunaticfan
01-22-2010, 01:06 AM
Well that's a first for me watching tna.I actually walked out on it and decided to take the dog for a walk at the end of the show.You got to kidding me at the end of the styles/angle match.Did they seriously just mock the hart/micheals montreal incident with vince.Seriously? That just set back what i think of this new tna way back now.I might just go back to wwe or not watching wrestling at all.The whole show was doing alright up to there.I mean the firing or not hiring of hall and waltman.And by the way what was waltman smoking,? Other than the fact he talked like he was on something and hall made refrence to it during thier interview segmant.Waltman has always been horribal on the mike but that was just brutal.But anyways,when they were getting kicked out from the ring he had something smoking in his hand.And hear i was told he got his stuff together and wanted to be a ctive part of the show and company.And i loved mr......................anderson.But he did not get to say it.And that whole love sponge/jarrett thing is so such work its funny.But anyway,the show was going good.Started off a little rough as nature boy is just tough to listen to now.As i have said he is just too old.I mean my grandpa is his age and we dont let him use the remote for the tv.They should'nt give him a chance to talk.And space mountain-please that ride has been closed for years.Those girls with him could'nt have seemed more disinterestred.Like who is this old guy.But anyway,the show was alright and then the end and it might be the end for me.As i just don;t know what they were thinking of writing that into the storyline.I can not think russo did that.I mean was id a dig to the wwe.As it was not even funny,it was obvious.I mean come up with your own storyline,not redo old ones.Just plain stubid.Well thats my tna repost for the show:wave:

lambertlunaticfan
01-22-2010, 01:11 AM
I know its funny that i am responding to my own post.But i forgot to mention that the last nwo in the wcw also had jeff jarrett.As he took over for brett hart.Who was only in it for a very short while.He went into it just before his ppv at starcade vs goldberg and i thuink left shortly after that.And then jarret came in.And by the way thats when the jerrett was at his best.With one of the best theme songs and enterence ever.I mean the start of cowboy by kid rock and the whole guitar thing and slappy.I loved him then.ULTIMATE-You got to say-SPOLIER ALERT-before you give a result from the taping man-just kidding.I don't really get into the "x" division.And yeah it's been awhile since joe has been oin a major storyline.He kind of has taken a backseat.And where is big poppa in all of this.That mafia thing i miss as i thought it was pretty neat.I wonder when hall and waltman go bye-bye if they will ring the mafia back.Heck they could back the last nwo if they brought bret hart in there-as i believe the last nwo (in wcw that is) was bret hart,kevin nash,scott hall and big poppa pump.I remember a nitro that i loved with them.I was trying to hunt down a tape of it when i was building my wrestling tape libary.It was at i believe the astrodome and they had a monster truck there.Man i loved the wcw at the end with the greatest tag team-KRONIC.And then they was a group with sean o'haire-the natural born thrillers.I loved those guys.Man that o'haire was a monster.Yeah i am leaving that bubba thing alone.And i hate kong as she can not wrestle.

Aussie_steeler
01-22-2010, 03:48 AM
Anyone remember Evolution featuring Randy Orton, Triple H, Ric Flair and Batista. When u look at that stable back when it started in 2003, there were really only 2 big names and 2 uprising names, now there all probably hall of famers lol.

Once Helmsley wriggled his way into the McVain family you could guarantee that anyone who is prepared to kiss his butt was going to be a guaranteed HOFer. Flair earnt that legacy well before HHH was in nappies. Baby Rhodes and Baby Dibiase are getting the same push courtesy of Orton.


The current Irishman with an allergy to the sun apparently rode the anal fumes of HHH so close that he is now a legitimate maineventer and dare I say it "world champion". Has to be one of the worst pushes ever.

I miss "Ravens Flock". Now that was an interesting stable

Aussie_steeler
01-22-2010, 03:54 AM
I know its funny that i am responding to my own post.But i forgot to mention that the last nwo in the wcw also had jeff jarrett.As he took over for brett hart.Who was only in it for a very short while.He went into it just before his ppv at starcade vs goldberg and i thuink left shortly after that.And then jarret came in.And by the way thats when the jerrett was at his best.With one of the best theme songs and enterence ever.I mean the start of cowboy by kid rock and the whole guitar thing and slappy.I loved him then.

I loved Voodoo Chile as the entrance music for Hollywood Hulk Hogan. Man that was one hell of a guitar riff.

Slapnuts was a really good heal angle for a while. In the end I felt like he just became a modern day version of the Honkytonk man.

supa_fly_steeler
01-22-2010, 06:51 AM
aye i meant LOL because it was funny to see them back in the day almost 7 years ago as young'ns in what was probably WWE'S last great year (2003) Man after that the WWE got gay with storylines.

They brang ECW Back in 2006 but ruined it.

touchdownward
01-22-2010, 07:46 AM
Not sure why they would cover it up now for a story line.As he has been that "deadman" gimmick for his whole career.And they used to show it.I don't watch wwe so i don;t know.Is he still doing that eyes rolled back and tongue sticking out thing.Aint nothing like sticking to a gimmick and beating a gimmick into the ground.Might as well call him the "dead horse man"..And aint anything more sexy than a 50 year old guy sticking out his tongue.I hate when gene simmons of kiss still does that darn tongue thing.
He was the American badass character for a while before switching back to the deadman. His wife was actually in a storyline at that time.

UltimateBengal
01-22-2010, 06:17 PM
Well that's a first for me watching tna.I actually walked out on it and decided to take the dog for a walk at the end of the show.You got to kidding me at the end of the styles/angle match.Did they seriously just mock the hart/micheals montreal incident with vince.Seriously? That just set back what i think of this new tna way back now.I might just go back to wwe or not watching wrestling at all.The whole show was doing alright up to there.I mean the firing or not hiring of hall and waltman.And by the way what was waltman smoking,? Other than the fact he talked like he was on something and hall made refrence to it during thier interview segmant.Waltman has always been horribal on the mike but that was just brutal.But anyways,when they were getting kicked out from the ring he had something smoking in his hand.And hear i was told he got his stuff together and wanted to be a ctive part of the show and company.And i loved mr......................anderson.But he did not get to say it.And that whole love sponge/jarrett thing is so such work its funny.But anyway,the show was going good.Started off a little rough as nature boy is just tough to listen to now.As i have said he is just too old.I mean my grandpa is his age and we dont let him use the remote for the tv.They should'nt give him a chance to talk.And space mountain-please that ride has been closed for years.Those girls with him could'nt have seemed more disinterestred.Like who is this old guy.But anyway,the show was alright and then the end and it might be the end for me.As i just don;t know what they were thinking of writing that into the storyline.I can not think russo did that.I mean was id a dig to the wwe.As it was not even funny,it was obvious.I mean come up with your own storyline,not redo old ones.Just plain stubid.Well thats my tna repost for the show:wave:

I agree the last part of the program blowed. I thought overall, the show was decent. TNA still has a lot of work to do. They have to figure out what direction they want to go and stick with it. Right now with Hogan, Bischoff, Jarrett and Russo all involved, it just seems to be all over the place. And could Bubba get out already!!! He's entertaining on the radio, but he sucks as a wrestling personality. He's always sweating and always seems nervous. Hell' I'd rather see Don West back!

lambertlunaticfan
01-23-2010, 02:50 AM
Yes aussiesteeler i agree with you.As entrance music goes hogans nwo is one of the best.To me the best measure to making a great entrance song is once you here the first note you are hooked to the excitement.And once hogan like jerrett music hit you just got excited.And again i agree with that the slap nuts gimmick went on too long but so does alot of gimmicks-hello dx!!!!!.But please dont compare jarret to honky tonk man.That guy was a joke and at least jarret could carry a match and could talk on the mike and was a better entertainer.Other than they both carried guitars they had nothing else in common.By the way i say that friendly and not upset and angry.As i know its tough to measure that in a post-I loved Voodoo Chile as the entrance music for Hollywood Hulk Hogan. Man that was one hell of a guitar riff.

Slapnuts was a really good heal angle for a while. In the end I felt like he just became a modern day version of the Honkytonk man.

lambertlunaticfan
01-23-2010, 03:00 AM
Thanks for clearing that up as i did'nt know what to make of you writing that.I thought the wwe had better years after that.They did'nt lose me until recently as giving pushes to john cena and ray little and jeff "try again" hardy.And i think thier storylines got very ho-hum and brought nothing new as orginal to the table.They got lazy as they knew all they had to do is just be there and not have to actually do anything.As people they are playing to are just cheering them and not what they saying or doing.I mean when was the last actual storyline the wwe did.And dont get me started what they did to the ecw.I loved ecw and you are right they ruined it.aye i meant LOL because it was funny to see them back in the day almost 7 years ago as young'ns in what was probably WWE'S last great year (2003) Man after that the WWE got gay with storylines.

They brang ECW Back in 2006 but ruined it.

lambertlunaticfan
01-23-2010, 03:08 AM
Yeah i knew all of that.And his wife was actually in a couple of storylines with him.Once vs ddp who was stalking her.And then one with brock as he attacked her almost in the locker room.All i was saying is that he has always been the undertaker.Just in differnent forms.But he was still the same gimmick.Just he was a deadman riding a motorcycle in the badass version of the undertaker.He has never really changed his gimmick.So to me he never switched back as he never left it.By the way does anyone remember the joke that was summerslam-undertaker vs undertaker.They were suppose to be exact copies and the whole storyline was you could'nt tell who was who.But the one was like 5 inches taller than the other one.It was very funny.It was done so they could switch undertakers.So they did it to fool people.He was the American badass character for a while before switching back to the deadman. His wife was actually in a storyline at that time.

lambertlunaticfan
01-23-2010, 03:18 AM
ULTIMATE-I was just very dissapointed they did that.I think as i have said on here before.There might be too many people with thier hands in this.As you were saying and i agree with you.With so many people getting a say its tough to go in a direction when they all want to go in thier own directions.They all need to get together and get one page to go on.And i totally agree with you about bubba.He serves no purpose there.As you said he seems out of place there.And the thing is when he talks he seems to be reading from a script.I mean i know he is,but you are not suppose to read it like you are.And by the way i am finding out that the whole bubba/kong thing was work and was set up by russo.As he wanted her to go after him so bubba would go after her.Sounds like russo trying to stir the pot.Opps should'nt say that hall and waltman might want some.Sorry guys wrong kind of pot.And i left this off my tna report.As i was so upset about ranting about the end of the show.I fogot to mention one of the biggest jokes of the night.The nasty boys,was that brutal to watch or what.I agree the last part of the program blowed. I thought overall, the show was decent. TNA still has a lot of work to do. They have to figure out what direction they want to go and stick with it. Right now with Hogan, Bischoff, Jarrett and Russo all involved, it just seems to be all over the place. And could Bubba get out already!!! He's entertaining on the radio, but he sucks as a wrestling personality. He's always sweating and always seems nervous. Hell' I'd rather see Don West back!

UltimateBengal
01-24-2010, 08:55 PM
ULTIMATE-I was just very dissapointed they did that.I think as i have said on here before.There might be too many people with thier hands in this.As you were saying and i agree with you.With so many people getting a say its tough to go in a direction when they all want to go in thier own directions.They all need to get together and get one page to go on.And i totally agree with you about bubba.He serves no purpose there.As you said he seems out of place there.And the thing is when he talks he seems to be reading from a script.I mean i know he is,but you are not suppose to read it like you are.And by the way i am finding out that the whole bubba/kong thing was work and was set up by russo.As he wanted her to go after him so bubba would go after her.Sounds like russo trying to stir the pot.Opps should'nt say that hall and waltman might want some.Sorry guys wrong kind of pot.And i left this off my tna report.As i was so upset about ranting about the end of the show.I fogot to mention one of the biggest jokes of the night.The nasty boys,was that brutal to watch or what.

No doubt there are too many hands in the cookie jar. With the current people who are in place, I would do the following. Let Bischoff and Hogan oversee the development and improvement of the television product, let Foley, Jarrett, Flair, Parks, and Angle concentrate purely on developing overall storylines and the creative direction they want to go, and let Russo, Ferraro and Conway stick to writng the scripts. This way everyone knows their job. Right now you have Jarrett and Russo with their ideas, Hogan and Bischoff pushing theirs, with the writers not on the same page as creative. Hopefully they figure this thing out soon!

I completely agree about Bubba. He's just so out of place, it's not even funny. If they want someone to be a loudmouth, fat, sweaty jerk, then bring back Mark Madden. At least he knows what he's doing. Also, I would love to see Tony Schiavone return to the broadcast table. He's one of the very best at it, he was 3 time broadcaster of the year. Schiavone, Taz, and Tenay would be a great team, IMO.

lambertlunaticfan
01-25-2010, 12:14 AM
Hell ULTIMATE if they want someone loudmouth,fat and a sweaty jerk they can hire ME.I totally agree with what you said on here about having them team up in departments and handle their own.As like you said there is too many people trying to do too many things there.Jarrett wants to write this storyline this way and foley wants it this way and hogan wants it this way.That makes for a bad product when you do things like that.And i am sure they all don't want "pushes" for the same people either.I just think the way they have it now just makes for more conflict backstage.As its all in choas.And i think if they do it like you said it would make for a better product as they would all be on the same page there.And again i agree with you,they better do it soon.Because of last weeks mess at the end there.I am about to bail on this.I still think about it and get mad they did that.What a stubid storyline to do that.I know i should build a bridge and get over it.No doubt there are too many hands in the cookie jar. With the current people who are in place, I would do the following. Let Bischoff and Hogan oversee the development and improvement of the television product, let Foley, Jarrett, Flair, Parks, and Angle concentrate purely on developing overall storylines and the creative direction they want to go, and let Russo, Ferraro and Conway stick to writng the scripts. This way everyone knows their job. Right now you have Jarrett and Russo with their ideas, Hogan and Bischoff pushing theirs, with the writers not on the same page as creative. Hopefully they figure this thing out soon!

I completely agree about Bubba. He's just so out of place, it's not even funny. If they want someone to be a loudmouth, fat, sweaty jerk, then bring back Mark Madden. At least he knows what he's doing. Also, I would love to see Tony Schiavone return to the broadcast table. He's one of the very best at it, he was 3 time broadcaster of the year. Schiavone, Taz, and Tenay would be a great team, IMO.

UltimateBengal
01-27-2010, 01:52 PM
Hell ULTIMATE if they want someone loudmouth,fat and a sweaty jerk they can hire ME.I totally agree with what you said on here about having them team up in departments and handle their own.As like you said there is too many people trying to do too many things there.Jarrett wants to write this storyline this way and foley wants it this way and hogan wants it this way.That makes for a bad product when you do things like that.And i am sure they all don't want "pushes" for the same people either.I just think the way they have it now just makes for more conflict backstage.As its all in choas.And i think if they do it like you said it would make for a better product as they would all be on the same page there.And again i agree with you,they better do it soon.Because of last weeks mess at the end there.I am about to bail on this.I still think about it and get mad they did that.What a stubid storyline to do that.I know i should build a bridge and get over it.

LOL You're hired!!! You can have Bubba's job. You couldn't do any worse. By the way, guess who's rumored to be joining TNA soon? Wait for it........The Honky Tonk Man! That's right, the Honkster! Are you freakin kiddin me? This better just be some rumor site messing with us!!! If that fat, sweaty loudmouth shows up..then I give up! LOL

If I were running TNA, I would be going after guys like Kenta, Jack Evans, and Mistico! These guys are exciting wrestlers that can electrify a crowd. I don't want to see any more fat, old, out of shape guys like Scott Hall, Val Venus, and the Nasty Boys!

supa_fly_steeler
01-27-2010, 02:10 PM
does anyone remember team dudley? that was awesome when the pyro went off and the song here comes the tables or something, there was a fat white dude with glasses, a black dude who did like celebration signs like ben roethlisberger does and there was a long blond hair guy who was lik anorexic who spanked stacey keiblers ass on raw lol. man those were the good days

stlrtruck
01-27-2010, 03:20 PM
does anyone remember team dudley? that was awesome when the pyro went off and the song here comes the tables or something, there was a fat white dude with glasses, a black dude who did like celebration signs like ben roethlisberger does and there was a long blond hair guy who was lik anorexic who spanked stacey keiblers ass on raw lol. man those were the good days

they're still around.

The one I can't remember his name, he was close to joining NWO or may have. He had a fu man chu mustache, black hair, and was stacked. Not like Steiner but still built.

Anyone?

supa_fly_steeler
01-27-2010, 03:22 PM
they're still around.

The one I can't remember his name, he was close to joining NWO or may have. He had a fu man chu mustache, black hair, and was stacked. Not like Steiner but still built.

Anyone?

i found out the name of dudley boys

bubba ray
d-von
spike

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1160/sd3pg4.jpg

she wants that bad haha

UltimateBengal
01-27-2010, 03:26 PM
i found out the name of dudley boys

bubba ray
d-von
spike

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1160/sd3pg4.jpg

she wants that bad haha

Yeah, they are on TNA now. They are called Team 3-D, but lil Spike isn't with them any more. Damn, Stacey is HOT!!!:wink02:

UltimateBengal
01-27-2010, 03:28 PM
they're still around.

The one I can't remember his name, he was close to joining NWO or may have. He had a fu man chu mustache, black hair, and was stacked. Not like Steiner but still built.

Anyone?

Was it Scott Norton?:noidea:http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2006/10/26/norton.jpg

lambertlunaticfan
01-27-2010, 10:23 PM
Yeah that honky tonk thing has been floating around for years.As he was suppose to do a wwe ppv last year but they backed on it.He has just been doing indy shows but they have been saying comeback for years now.I would not be surprised to see tna do that.I guess that "screwjob" segmant from last week creayted alot of heat in the locker room after the show.Glad to hear i was not the only one upset by it.The people i have beemn hearing i am sure are the same you have been hearing that might come to tna-goldberg....sid....honkytonk man and even i have heard little talk about stone cold being there.And those young guys you mentuioned,noone knows them.And right now they want to go with people that the crowd knows.And most that watch are not as knowledgable as you and me are on the asspects of the sport.LOL You're hired!!! You can have Bubba's job. You couldn't do any worse. By the way, guess who's rumored to be joining TNA soon? Wait for it........The Honky Tonk Man! That's right, the Honkster! Are you freakin kiddin me? This better just be some rumor site messing with us!!! If that fat, sweaty loudmouth shows up..then I give up! LOL

If I were running TNA, I would be going after guys like Kenta, Jack Evans, and Mistico! These guys are exciting wrestlers that can electrify a crowd. I don't want to see any more fat, old, out of shape guys like Scott Hall, Val Venus, and the Nasty Boys!

UltimateBengal
01-27-2010, 11:26 PM
Yeah that honky tonk thing has been floating around for years.As he was suppose to do a wwe ppv last year but they backed on it.He has just been doing indy shows but they have been saying comeback for years now.I would not be surprised to see tna do that.I guess that "screwjob" segmant from last week creayted alot of heat in the locker room after the show.Glad to hear i was not the only one upset by it.The people i have beemn hearing i am sure are the same you have been hearing that might come to tna-goldberg....sid....honkytonk man and even i have heard little talk about stone cold being there.And those young guys you mentuioned,noone knows them.And right now they want to go with people that the crowd knows.And most that watch are not as knowledgable as you and me are on the asspects of the sport.

You're right that Kenta, Mistico and Evans aren't well known. But they all have cult followings that will tune in to watch them. I know TNA is looking for the big, quick score right now. I hope they don't forget that guys like Styles and Joe became stars after not being mainstream names. I know you won't be a fan of this, but in an interview a couple days ago, RVD said his answer to TNA has went from a NO to a MAYBE. He would definitely help with ratings, IMO. Also, as you probably already saw, Spike has said that iMPACT will be moving to Mondays in March. How cool is that!:drink:

lambertlunaticfan
01-28-2010, 02:20 AM
No i totally agree with you about young guys.As they all started that way.As you pointed out though tna is looking to get over before doing that.I just think not going live and on mondays from the first show has hurt them.As i am sure that following monday people tuned into spike and were like where the heck is wrestling.Like i said alot of the audience they are trying to bring in from wwe and new wrestling fans and casual fans are not very up on wrestling and would'nt have known its a thursday show.And as far as rvd goes.I know you're a fan so i will just leave it at that.I think its funny as i was just thinking about it.Why did they bring jeff hardy in for that first show if they did not know if they are going to be able to use him.And they even have him on thier new promo.I have a rant for you so check your "pm".You're right that Kenta, Mistico and Evans aren't well known. But they all have cult followings that will tune in to watch them. I know TNA is looking for the big, quick score right now. I hope they don't forget that guys like Styles and Joe became stars after not being mainstream names. I know you won't be a fan of this, but in an interview a couple days ago, RVD said his answer to TNA has went from a NO to a MAYBE. He would definitely help with ratings, IMO. Also, as you probably already saw, Spike has said that iMPACT will be moving to Mondays in March. How cool is that!:drink:

stlrtruck
01-28-2010, 08:14 AM
Was it Scott Norton?:noidea:http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/2006/10/26/norton.jpg

No. I just did a google search and found it.

Buff Bagwell!

I think the WCW didn't use him correctly. He had all the makings of either a heal or a good guy. And they could have gone either way with him but they just dangled him there in the middle.

stlrtruck
01-28-2010, 08:18 AM
Yeah that honky tonk thing has been floating around for years.As he was suppose to do a wwe ppv last year but they backed on it.He has just been doing indy shows but they have been saying comeback for years now.I would not be surprised to see tna do that.I guess that "screwjob" segmant from last week creayted alot of heat in the locker room after the show.Glad to hear i was not the only one upset by it.The people i have beemn hearing i am sure are the same you have been hearing that might come to tna-goldberg....sid....honkytonk man and even i have heard little talk about stone cold being there.And those young guys you mentuioned,noone knows them.And right now they want to go with people that the crowd knows.And most that watch are not as knowledgable as you and me are on the asspects of the sport.

I haven't seen the screw job yet. For some reason every chance I get to catch up on the shows, the more things "pop up" that require my immediate attention. Go figure! I'd be disappointed if Honky Tonk Man makes a comeback to any prime time wrestling except to get abused and be done. While I think Sid and Goldberg would bring some viewership to TNA it won't hold them there.

You're right that Kenta, Mistico and Evans aren't well known. But they all have cult followings that will tune in to watch them. I know TNA is looking for the big, quick score right now. I hope they don't forget that guys like Styles and Joe became stars after not being mainstream names. I know you won't be a fan of this, but in an interview a couple days ago, RVD said his answer to TNA has went from a NO to a MAYBE. He would definitely help with ratings, IMO. Also, as you probably already saw, Spike has said that iMPACT will be moving to Mondays in March. How cool is that!:drink:

This is where I think you've got the right track. With the younger wrestlers, they tend to bring bigger and more fanatical followings - like Jeff Hardy and RVD. If they promote these younger wrestlers properly (ala how Vince promoted Hulkamania - more like pushed Hulkamania), then they can at least be competitive to WWE immediately and should they sustain themselves and stay away from the drama, then they could even start challenging for greater ratings.

Venom
01-28-2010, 11:47 AM
WWE wrestler Chris Jericho was arrested at a gas station in Kentucky early Wednesday morning after cops say he and a fellow wrestler were both "extremely intoxicated" in public.

The 39-year-old Jericho was taken into custody in Kenton County around 5 AM for "alcohol intoxication in a public place."

Jericho -- who was arrested along with fellow wrestler Greg "Hurricane" Helms -- was forced to smile for cop cam -- and TMZ obtained the mug shots.

Jericho and Helms were released on $120 bond -- each ... no that's not a typo.

UPDATE 10:00 AM EST: Cops say they responded to the gas station in Crescent Springs after receiving a complaint about two men fighting in a cab.

When cops arrived to the scene, they located Jericho and Helms, who were "manifestly under the influence of an alcoholic beverage." Both men were then arrested -- but cops say the wrestlers were cooperative with police.

Crescent Springs is roughly 20 miles from Cincinnati, where the two men participated in a WWE event on Tuesday night. .

TMZ

lambertlunaticfan
01-29-2010, 12:22 AM
I just got done watching tna and one thing i have to say is they have to get thier production better.In the first segmant the music hit beofre they were done talking.And one thing is apperant they want to build stoylines and not get rid of them.Alot of people thought they were going to go away from wwe and they are trying to be more like them in the old days of the wwf.With drama outside the ring storylines.And its one thing that tna tried and got away from for a whle but every week i see it comeing back since hogan/bischoff took over there.I heard that they are proberly bring back the octogon ring as alot of the regular tna wrestlers don't like the normal ring.And it was a change that was made without them even knowing.In fact none of the wrestlers even knew until that ppv.The nasty boys/team 3d match at the ppv is going to be brutal.As the nastys cant even carry a talking segmant with breaking into a sweat.Wow i dont know whats more brutal listening to them talk or seeing them wrestle.And they are really wrecking the legend that was the "scewjob".They should have left that alone.And speaking of that,brett hart vs vince mcmahon at wrestlemania.Thats the worse kept secret in wrestling.Anyway,I heard of another wrestler that might come to tna-the boogyman.Well the main event tonight with jarret and mr.........................anderson was alright anderson.I just don;t see a storyline for anderson yet.And the band was there doing hogan's dirty work aganist angle.Well in all it was a decent show.

lambertlunaticfan
01-29-2010, 12:28 AM
:blah::beerbang::yawn::alcohol::chug::shots:No offense venom.But posting a story about wrestlers drunk is like posting a story about birds flying.WWE wrestler Chris Jericho was arrested at a gas station in Kentucky early Wednesday morning after cops say he and a fellow wrestler were both "extremely intoxicated" in public.

The 39-year-old Jericho was taken into custody in Kenton County around 5 AM for "alcohol intoxication in a public place."

Jericho -- who was arrested along with fellow wrestler Greg "Hurricane" Helms -- was forced to smile for cop cam -- and TMZ obtained the mug shots.

Jericho and Helms were released on $120 bond -- each ... no that's not a typo.

UPDATE 10:00 AM EST: Cops say they responded to the gas station in Crescent Springs after receiving a complaint about two men fighting in a cab.

When cops arrived to the scene, they located Jericho and Helms, who were "manifestly under the influence of an alcoholic beverage." Both men were then arrested -- but cops say the wrestlers were cooperative with police.

Crescent Springs is roughly 20 miles from Cincinnati, where the two men participated in a WWE event on Tuesday night. .

TMZ

Venom
01-29-2010, 06:52 AM
No offense taken

lambertlunaticfan
01-30-2010, 05:22 AM
good,as i know things can be taken the wrong way on forums,And i was just tryuing to make a joke.I am glad you got it.BIRDS GOT TO FLY......FISH GOT TO SWIM.................AND WRESTLERS WELL THEY GOT TO:tt03:PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....On a side note the funny thing is.You can tell it's not thier first rodeo as it were.As they did not even look buzzed in thier mug shots.I mean remember some classic like busey and mel gibson.Both jericho and helms looked sober,well other than the long cut on helsm face they looked fine.No offense taken

stlrtruck
01-30-2010, 03:44 PM
Ok so someone catch me up on TNA (the short version), it seems somehow my DVR didn't record but one show and that was the one back the first of January.

lambertlunaticfan
01-30-2010, 08:06 PM
I have posted on here my thoughts about each show after it of the hogan/bischoff era.And me and ultimate have talked about thier first ppv also.You could just go back and read those.I am long winded so i don't think i could do the short version for you.Basically they are just getting storylines worked out and seeing what works and what does not.Ok so someone catch me up on TNA (the short version), it seems somehow my DVR didn't record but one show and that was the one back the first of January.

Aussie_steeler
01-30-2010, 10:30 PM
No. I just did a google search and found it.

Buff Bagwell!

I think the WCW didn't use him correctly. He had all the makings of either a heal or a good guy. And they could have gone either way with him but they just dangled him there in the middle.

Just when Bagwell was hitting it big ( he had roided up from a little cruiserweight - Marcus Alexander Bagwell) with the WCW fans he broke his neck.

He had a really long lay off and was never the same when he came back.

Scott Norton was an awesome grunt for the NWO. He was a favourite of mine for a long while.

lambertlunaticfan
01-31-2010, 04:01 AM
Oh no,I am hearing a return tag team is coming to tna-don't laugh too hard-especially you "ultimate"-the new age outlaws-:rofl:

UltimateBengal
01-31-2010, 08:40 PM
Oh no,I am hearing a return tag team is coming to tna-don't laugh too hard-especially you "ultimate"-the new age outlaws-:rofl:

The New Age Outlaws? Are you kidding me. I hadn't heard that one yet! Holy hell, are they scraping the bottom of the barrel now? I mean damn, they were played out 10 years ago!!!

Bu the way Lambert, after Thursdays iMPACT, they boys have some production issues to work on. The first segment with Foley, Hogan and Bischoff set the tone. The music starts playing to end the segment while Hogan is in mid sentence. the looks on their faces was great as they tried to play it off. Then it happened again later in the show. They better get this stuff worked out before they start going live on Mondays!!! I thought the show was decent aside from that. I kind of enjoyed the Jarrett-Anderson match. I think Anderson has a chance to be a well played heel.

UltimateBengal
01-31-2010, 08:42 PM
Just when Bagwell was hitting it big ( he had roided up from a little cruiserweight - Marcus Alexander Bagwell) with the WCW fans he broke his neck.

He had a really long lay off and was never the same when he came back.

Scott Norton was an awesome grunt for the NWO. He was a favourite of mine for a long while.

I always liked Norton too. I never thought he was used well in America. He was a big star in Japan for years, but was never more than a mid carder in the states.

lambertlunaticfan
02-01-2010, 01:25 AM
Evil minds think alike "ultimate" asi said the same thing in my post after last thursdays tna show about that first segmant and the music hitting before they were done with it.And as you said i aloso like the jarret anderson match as mr...................anderson plays a good heel anderson.And i knew you would like that new age outlaws thing.But they can not be any worse than the nasty bioys who get winded just talking.The New Age Outlaws? Are you kidding me. I hadn't heard that one yet! Holy hell, are they scraping the bottom of the barrel now? I mean damn, they were played out 10 years ago!!!

Bu the way Lambert, after Thursdays iMPACT, they boys have some production issues to work on. The first segment with Foley, Hogan and Bischoff set the tone. The music starts playing to end the segment while Hogan is in mid sentence. the looks on their faces was great as they tried to play it off. Then it happened again later in the show. They better get this stuff worked out before they start going live on Mondays!!! I thought the show was decent aside from that. I kind of enjoyed the Jarrett-Anderson match. I think Anderson has a chance to be a well played heel.

UltimateBengal
02-01-2010, 10:09 AM
Evil minds think alike "ultimate" asi said the same thing in my post after last thursdays tna show about that first segmant and the music hitting before they were done with it.And as you said i aloso like the jarret anderson match as mr...................anderson plays a good heel anderson.And i knew you would like that new age outlaws thing.But they can not be any worse than the nasty bioys who get winded just talking.

Yeah Lambert. the Nasty Boys are just hard to watch. Damn, they can't wrestle anything more than an exhibition match and they've even lost what little mic skills they had. Listening to Knobbs get out of breath just talking, it's sad! I think it's time for Bichoff to trim the fat, by getting rid of the NWO and the Nasty Boys. I had hoped the NWO thing would've played out better, but they are nowhere near what they once were!!! I still have high hopes for TNA, as I have grown sick of WWE! But, they are gonna have to start concentrating on putting together a effective roster and storylines. I hope that guys like Anderson, Joe, Styles, Hernandez and Morgan, Beer Money, and the Division X guys get used properly in the future, because they can be the guys that carry the brand into the future!

lambertlunaticfan
02-01-2010, 11:32 PM
Again evil minds my friend,i said the same thing about knobbs talking.I agree with you but they have to getgoing already in tna.I mean they have had plenty of time to try to get some kind of stoylines going.Yeah that nwo thing went out fast.But when they almost no show your first ppv you have no chioce.As i think thye are afraid to write them into a main long term storyline because chances are they will no show somewhere during it.I thought they should just work with what they got with the people you mentioned and work the others in as you go.Yeah Lambert. the Nasty Boys are just hard to watch. Damn, they can't wrestle anything more than an exhibition match and they've even lost what little mic skills they had. Listening to Knobbs get out of breath just talking, it's sad! I think it's time for Bichoff to trim the fat, by getting rid of the NWO and the Nasty Boys. I had hoped the NWO thing would've played out better, but they are nowhere near what they once were!!! I still have high hopes for TNA, as I have grown sick of WWE! But, they are gonna have to start concentrating on putting together a effective roster and storylines. I hope that guys like Anderson, Joe, Styles, Hernandez and Morgan, Beer Money, and the Division X guys get used properly in the future, because they can be the guys that carry the brand into the future!

LambertIsGod58
02-03-2010, 04:37 PM
Mr. #1derful Paul Orndorff was my favorite.

Dino 6 Rings
02-03-2010, 05:20 PM
2 cents, I watched some of the WWE Last night, they are conducting and epic failure with Brett Heart, how much did he get paid I wonder to let them just make a mockery of him twice now. Total Fail. I imagine the poor guy can't wrestle anymore, but Vince is a total toolshed. One day, One of these guys needs to really lay him out.

UltimateBengal
02-03-2010, 05:47 PM
2 cents, I watched some of the WWE Last night, they are conducting and epic failure with Brett Heart, how much did he get paid I wonder to let them just make a mockery of him twice now. Total Fail. I imagine the poor guy can't wrestle anymore, but Vince is a total toolshed. One day, One of these guys needs to really lay him out.

I agree with ya Dino. The Bret Hart storyline is just weird! I was very disappointed to see Bret step back into a WWE ring after he swore he never would again. The bottom line is that Bret has had some financial problems over the last few years and really needs the money. But, it feels like he's made a deal with the devil, and the devil is Vince!

lambertlunaticfan
02-05-2010, 03:22 AM
I just got done watching this weeks train wreck that is and has been the new tna.As it does not seem to be going anywhere.I know "ultimate" give it time and i am trying but come on already flip the script and lets get going already.I do see as the show starts they are really trying to give a big push to mr.................anderson and i like it anderson.But he needs to be going agiast someone else that can play off of him.And that little runt is not it.But i know tonight match was just to try to get him over.And i thought it was funny in the tomko and angle match that tomko had to really help in selling the backflips that angle was trying to give him.I mean really obviously over selling it to the point of any real wreslting fan would see that.It was really funny as me and my brother just laughed at it.Angle obviously does not have the power in his legs as he used to be able to do that move with no problem.But tomko is a big boy so i understand that but maybe dont script that move in the match then.As it made angle look really bad having to be helped like that.And i wish they would go live as we would have been able to see that wardobe malfunction with "tara" in her match vs angelina love.As half way threw the match they blurred out the top half of her.And the main event was funny as i kind of knew that was going to happen when they give title to the shows before it.And i have no idea why they do that as its really stubid to name the shows.But kind of surprising to seeing the band turn on one of thier own.All in all a good but far from great show.:blah:

lambertlunaticfan
02-05-2010, 03:25 AM
Dino-If you think the storyline is sad.Wait until you see it conclude when vince and brett wrestle this year at wrestlemania.2 cents, I watched some of the WWE Last night, they are conducting and epic failure with Brett Heart, how much did he get paid I wonder to let them just make a mockery of him twice now. Total Fail. I imagine the poor guy can't wrestle anymore, but Vince is a total toolshed. One day, One of these guys needs to really lay him out.

stlrtruck
02-05-2010, 09:13 AM
Dino-If you think the storyline is sad.Wait until you see it conclude when vince and brett wrestle this year at wrestlemania.

Brett must have needed some money bad or there is some behind the scenes that his other family members will get a push into the top tier of tag teams.

There has to be something for him to be getting embarrassed this bad. At least this past week he got a few in on McMahon before he got hog tied.

UltimateBengal
02-05-2010, 04:01 PM
I just got done watching this weeks train wreck that is and has been the new tna.As it does not seem to be going anywhere.I know "ultimate" give it time and i am trying but come on already flip the script and lets get going already.I do see as the show starts they are really trying to give a big push to mr.................anderson and i like it anderson.But he needs to be going agiast someone else that can play off of him.And that little runt is not it.But i know tonight match was just to try to get him over.And i thought it was funny in the tomko and angle match that tomko had to really help in selling the backflips that angle was trying to give him.I mean really obviously over selling it to the point of any real wreslting fan would see that.It was really funny as me and my brother just laughed at it.Angle obviously does not have the power in his legs as he used to be able to do that move with no problem.But tomko is a big boy so i understand that but maybe dont script that move in the match then.As it made angle look really bad having to be helped like that.And i wish they would go live as we would have been able to see that wardobe malfunction with "tara" in her match vs angelina love.As half way threw the match they blurred out the top half of her.And the main event was funny as i kind of knew that was going to happen when they give title to the shows before it.And i have no idea why they do that as its really stubid to name the shows.But kind of surprising to seeing the band turn on one of thier own.All in all a good but far from great show.:blah:

I agree with ya Lambert, this weeks show was OK, but not great by any means. There is stuff that still could be better. I've gotta say that I'm really starting to like Mr Anderson as a heel. At this point, he may be the best heel in TNA! I also enjoyed the Joe and Pope against Styles and Flair ending to that match. That has a chance to develop nicely. Flair seemed to be on his game last night. And Joe's finally getting some air time. I also think the Foley-Bischoff thing can play well in the future if developed properly. The NWO thing surprised me as well, I didn't see that coming. It will be interesting to hear how they sell that next week. Maybe they have finally found a storyline for Hall and Waltman that can work? You could see some improvement this week, but I was kinda disappointed by the Angle match. Angle isn't as strong as he once was, and I agree with you Lambert, they should've scripted that match differently. But, Angle is really getting over right now, and it's good to see, because the guy has been through alot. I hope the rumors about going live starting in March are true, because these tapings seem a little stale and uninspiring. Going live will force everyone to step their game up and add some much needed excitement! On another note, and Lambert I know you not a fan of this, RVD seems to be getting much closer to joining TNA. In recent interviews, he said that he's following TNA and likes what they are doing, and that he is now interested. No matter what the fans opinion is of him, the guy stlii has a huge following and can still be a big draw!

lambertlunaticfan
02-06-2010, 02:10 AM
Ultimate-I agree with you totally about everything but obviously the rvd thing.But god bless you as you keep trying to sell him to me.I am just afraid its a waste of effort to do that to me.As i will proberly never change my mind about him.And speaking of people who keep getting chances but cant put down the pilss or pipe to take advantage of them.Please explain to me why they keep having jeff hardy on thier lead in promo to tna from his one apprerance from thier first hogan bischoff show.I mean the guy is going to jail and will not be wrestling anytime soon.And like you i love mr.........anderson as a heel....anderson.He is really good at it.He just needs someone good to play off of it with.And that had to be tough for joe to be on the shelf for this long and not be written onto the show.I had forgot all about him.Was that his first apperance on the new tna.I thought he was on the first show but am not sure.About going live i guess it was choas bacstage when they did that live show and thats why they are a little afraid to do that live thing.But the more they do it the better they will get.And did it seem to you that we witnessed a "SHOOT" when foley and bischoff were doing thier talking segment in the ring.Me and my brother looked at each other and both said i think foley is doing a shoot with him.Sure seemed real to me.:noidea:I agree with ya Lambert, this weeks show was OK, but not great by any means. There is stuff that still could be better. I've gotta say that I'm really starting to like Mr Anderson as a heel. At this point, he may be the best heel in TNA! I also enjoyed the Joe and Pope against Styles and Flair ending to that match. That has a chance to develop nicely. Flair seemed to be on his game last night. And Joe's finally getting some air time. I also think the Foley-Bischoff thing can play well in the future if developed properly. The NWO thing surprised me as well, I didn't see that coming. It will be interesting to hear how they sell that next week. Maybe they have finally found a storyline for Hall and Waltman that can work? You could see some improvement this week, but I was kinda disappointed by the Angle match. Angle isn't as strong as he once was, and I agree with you Lambert, they should've scripted that match differently. But, Angle is really getting over right now, and it's good to see, because the guy has been through alot. I hope the rumors about going live starting in March are true, because these tapings seem a little stale and uninspiring. Going live will force everyone to step their game up and add some much needed excitement! On another note, and Lambert I know you not a fan of this, RVD seems to be getting much closer to joining TNA. In recent interviews, he said that he's following TNA and likes what they are doing, and that he is now interested. No matter what the fans opinion is of him, the guy stlii has a huge following and can still be a big draw!

UltimateBengal
02-07-2010, 12:20 AM
Brett must have needed some money bad or there is some behind the scenes that his other family members will get a push into the top tier of tag teams.

There has to be something for him to be getting embarrassed this bad. At least this past week he got a few in on McMahon before he got hog tied.

From every thing I've read, Brett really needs the dough. But damn, it's like selling your soul to the devil. He has to think about his brother's death and the screwjob with HBK every time he looks at McMahon's goofy face! I don't know how he can do it and not want to ring Vince's neck!

UltimateBengal
02-07-2010, 12:37 AM
Ultimate-I agree with you totally about everything but obviously the rvd thing.But god bless you as you keep trying to sell him to me.I am just afraid its a waste of effort to do that to me.As i will proberly never change my mind about him.And speaking of people who keep getting chances but cant put down the pilss or pipe to take advantage of them.Please explain to me why they keep having jeff hardy on thier lead in promo to tna from his one apprerance from thier first hogan bischoff show.I mean the guy is going to jail and will not be wrestling anytime soon.And like you i love mr.........anderson as a heel....anderson.He is really good at it.He just needs someone good to play off of it with.And that had to be tough for joe to be on the shelf for this long and not be written onto the show.I had forgot all about him.Was that his first apperance on the new tna.I thought he was on the first show but am not sure.About going live i guess it was choas bacstage when they did that live show and thats why they are a little afraid to do that live thing.But the more they do it the better they will get.And did it seem to you that we witnessed a "SHOOT" when foley and bischoff were doing thier talking segment in the ring.Me and my brother looked at each other and both said i think foley is doing a shoot with him.Sure seemed real to me.:noidea:

I'm not trying to change your mind about RVD. I know how you feel about him, as do a lot of people. It's just me sharing my thoughts about it. The deal with Jeff Hardy being on the promo, is because supposedly Dixie signed him knowing full well that he was going to jail and wouldn't be available for some time. The deal that was agreed to wasn't a contract, but more of a promise that he will join TNA once his legal issues are behind. But of course, in wrestling, that could all change very quickly!
You raised a good point about the Foley-Bischoff thing. Foley actually came up with the idea for this feud, and is helping Matt Conway with the writing of it, which you can clearly tell when you listen to him talk. While it is a storyline, Foley is definitely writing from the sleeve, because he has made it very clear in the past that he does not like Bischoff. What's going to be interesting is to see how far Bischoff will let him go with it? Remember when Bischoff went to WWE and was in the same situation with Vince. Even though it was a storyline, his real life dislike of Vince was obvious in their segments together. I love when theirs real tension in the air!:chuckle:

lambertlunaticfan
02-07-2010, 04:30 AM
I was just making a joke about your attempts at changing my mind about rvd, guess again i missed with my humor.I know he proberly would be good for rating as i get keeping told that.I don;t see it but each thier own.And i know that about hardy but why have him in the promo then.Just kind of a waste to me.But then so is he,wasted that is.What a great way to get out your true feelisn about someone to be able to call it a storyline.I can hear foley telling erci,yeah let me call you this it will play good with the crowd i promise.Yeah i remember when bischoff went against vice when he got to the wwe.Do you see vince russo writing himself into a story line like he did at the end of wcw.I'm not trying to change your mind about RVD. I know how you feel about him, as do a lot of people. It's just me sharing my thoughts about it. The deal with Jeff Hardy being on the promo, is because supposedly Dixie signed him knowing full well that he was going to jail and wouldn't be available for some time. The deal that was agreed to wasn't a contract, but more of a promise that he will join TNA once his legal issues are behind. But of course, in wrestling, that could all change very quickly!
You raised a good point about the Foley-Bischoff thing. Foley actually came up with the idea for this feud, and is helping Matt Conway with the writing of it, which you can clearly tell when you listen to him talk. While it is a storyline, Foley is definitely writing from the sleeve, because he has made it very clear in the past that he does not like Bischoff. What's going to be interesting is to see how far Bischoff will let him go with it? Remember when Bischoff went to WWE and was in the same situation with Vince. Even though it was a storyline, his real life dislike of Vince was obvious in their segments together. I love when theirs real tension in the air!:chuckle:

lambertlunaticfan
02-07-2010, 04:38 AM
Yeah i know he is broke but get a job at walmart or something.I mean the guy has had a stroke and other health problems why risk it.The money is never that good.Me and my brother went to his book signing last year and it was sad to see him even try to walk to the stage.I mean how is he going to be able to wrestle.And who wants to see that ,i know i don't.Brett must have needed some money bad or there is some behind the scenes that his other family members will get a push into the top tier of tag teams.

There has to be something for him to be getting embarrassed this bad. At least this past week he got a few in on McMahon before he got hog tied.

UltimateBengal
02-07-2010, 03:24 PM
I was just making a joke about your attempts at changing my mind about rvd, guess again i missed with my humor.I know he proberly would be good for rating as i get keeping told that.I don;t see it but each thier own.And i know that about hardy but why have him in the promo then.Just kind of a waste to me.But then so is he,wasted that is.What a great way to get out your true feelisn about someone to be able to call it a storyline.I can hear foley telling erci,yeah let me call you this it will play good with the crowd i promise.Yeah i remember when bischoff went against vice when he got to the wwe.Do you see vince russo writing himself into a story line like he did at the end of wcw.

I know you are just joking about me and the RVD thing. Honestly, you and others have good reason not to like him and Hardy though. Lord knows they've blown enough chances!:doh: I guess I'm thinking more about ratings for TNA than I am about what screwups these guys are.
Good point about Bischoff-Foley. I'd love to be a fly on the wall during those production meetings. Foley "Hey Eric, is it cool if I call you an egotistical assclown"? Eric "Sure Mick, if I can say you are a washed up has been". LOL:chuckle: As far as Russo, I'm surprised that Russo wasn't apart of the Bischoff-Jarrett story. Remember towards the end of WCW when it was Hogan and Eric fighting with Jarrett and Russo. I wouldn't mind seeing that play out again.
Have you heard anything new about them going live. The last I heard, there were plans to go live permanently starting in March? But that has kind of cooled off as of late.

supa_fly_steeler
02-07-2010, 03:29 PM
Whats with Ric Flair going to TNA after Triple H had done that big memory thing when he was leaving Raw.

Talk about a smack to the face.

UltimateBengal
02-07-2010, 03:35 PM
Whats with Ric Flair going to TNA after Triple H had done that big memory thing when he was leaving Raw.

Talk about a smack to the face.

The Nature Boy needs the Nature money I guess! Woooooooooooooooo!:chuckle:

supa_fly_steeler
02-07-2010, 03:39 PM
The Nature Boy needs the Nature money I guess! Woooooooooooooooo!:chuckle:

lol hey thanks for the fast reply lol.

Do they have to change their personas, entrances (damn melinas was best), and intro music when they shop over to TNA i know Christian did but i havent watched WWE since 2005 (the year the storylines went bad imo)

UltimateBengal
02-07-2010, 03:47 PM
lol hey thanks for the fast reply lol.

Do they have to change their personas, entrances (damn melinas was best), and intro music when they shop over to TNA i know Christian did but i havent watched WWE since 2005 (the year the storylines went bad imo)

When they go from WWE to TNA, they have to change anything that McMahon owns..like name, music, character persona, or catch phrases. Like Mr Kennedy is now Mr Anderson. Flair owns the rights to all his stuff, so he will always be the "Jet flyin, limosine ridin, all night on Space Mountain, son of a gun!:sofunny:Even though he's losing hair and is almost 60 years old!

lambertlunaticfan
02-08-2010, 01:03 AM
Thats why i asked you about russo as i thought for sure he wrote himself in.As like you i also loved it when it was in the storylines in the end of wcw.Remember the storyline with him and david flair going after ric that was brutal.And like i said i have the tapes of the first 26 tna shows.And russo wrote himself in a storyline.And roddy piper came out and did a shoot with him in the ring.Where piper accused russo of killing owen that was chilling to watch that.As you knew it was not scripted."Yeah vince is it alright if i call you a killer".And bring back "the natural born thrillers".No,i have not heard anything about tna going live.But it would nice if they did that soon.I know you are just joking about me and the RVD thing. Honestly, you and others have good reason not to like him and Hardy though. Lord knows they've blown enough chances!:doh: I guess I'm thinking more about ratings for TNA than I am about what screwups these guys are.
Good point about Bischoff-Foley. I'd love to be a fly on the wall during those production meetings. Foley "Hey Eric, is it cool if I call you an egotistical assclown"? Eric "Sure Mick, if I can say you are a washed up has been". LOL:chuckle: As far as Russo, I'm surprised that Russo wasn't apart of the Bischoff-Jarrett story. Remember towards the end of WCW when it was Hogan and Eric fighting with Jarrett and Russo. I wouldn't mind seeing that play out again.
Have you heard anything new about them going live. The last I heard, there were plans to go live permanently starting in March? But that has kind of cooled off as of late.

lambertlunaticfan
02-08-2010, 01:05 AM
SOMEONE PLEASE TELL RIC-SPACE MOUNTIAN,HEY GRANDPA THAT RIDE CLOSED LIKE 20 YEARS AGO.:toofunny:When they go from WWE to TNA, they have to change anything that McMahon owns..like name, music, character persona, or catch phrases. Like Mr Kennedy is now Mr Anderson. Flair owns the rights to all his stuff, so he will always be the "Jet flyin, limosine ridin, all night on Space Mountain, son of a gun!:sofunny:Even though he's losing hair and is almost 60 years old!

lambertlunaticfan
02-08-2010, 01:13 AM
SUPAFLY-I agree with you melinas original entrence when she wore the skirt was great.But not so much now as she wears the pants and its not the same.But if you liked hers.You have to check out velvet sky entrence.I mean she will make you forget about all those old divas.And "ultimate" is right about thier music etc.If vince came up with it he gets to keep it.Years ago when kevin nash and scott hall left the wwf for the wcw.They tried to pass off others as them.And it was funny.Like when they did the two twins undertaker gimmick.Even though one was 5 inches taller than the other one.That was a funny summerslam when they did that.lol hey thanks for the fast reply lol.

Do they have to change their personas, entrances (damn melinas was best), and intro music when they shop over to TNA i know Christian did but i havent watched WWE since 2005 (the year the storylines went bad imo)

supa_fly_steeler
02-08-2010, 04:40 PM
SUPAFLY-I agree with you melinas original entrence when she wore the skirt was great.But not so much now as she wears the pants and its not the same.But if you liked hers.You have to check out velvet sky entrence.I mean she will make you forget about all those old divas.And "ultimate" is right about thier music etc.If vince came up with it he gets to keep it.Years ago when kevin nash and scott hall left the wwf for the wcw.They tried to pass off others as them.And it was funny.Like when they did the two twins undertaker gimmick.Even though one was 5 inches taller than the other one.That was a funny summerslam when they did that.

ill have to check it out, i remmeber also melina wore those tight jeans to make her a$$ look $$.

does mr kennedy go MRRRR ANDERSON ANDERSONNNNNNNNNN lol

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/1/130242214_b64be678ca.jpg
http://img001.lazygirls.info/people/melina_perez/melina_perez_melinas_hot_ass_voe7aOn.sized.jpg
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lambertlunaticfan
02-08-2010, 11:04 PM
I used to be a huge melina fan back then.I even had two signed 8x10 photos of her enterance.From the front view and the even better from behind.And its funny cause she usually drew a heart over the picture from the back side but with mine she did not.And yes you need to check out velvet.And yes mr kenndy now goes mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......anderson... ...............anderson.ill have to check it out, i remmeber also melina wore those tight jeans to make her a$$ look $$.

does mr kennedy go MRRRR ANDERSON ANDERSONNNNNNNNNN lol

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/1/130242214_b64be678ca.jpg
http://img001.lazygirls.info/people/melina_perez/melina_perez_melinas_hot_ass_voe7aOn.sized.jpg
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6295/melinaupskirtbesteverperiod3pl.jpg

lambertlunaticfan
02-12-2010, 03:01 AM
This weeks tna show review-SPOILER ALERT IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED AND ARE PLANNING TO WATCH THE SHOW.I first off have to say i LOVED the steelers and jack lambert refrence by taz in the show.As far as the show goes.Very predicatable storylines and i hate those.As i knew at the end of the show i knew hogan was going to turn on "the band".And that whole band gimmick and them sneaking around is gettting old real fast.Flip the darn script already as they have already did that storyline with them.Its wcw storylines in tna bascially.If it did not work the first time,what makes you think it will work now.And fans like me and "ultimate" are going to remember it didnt work and call you out for it.And i guess i am just tired of the redoing of old storylines.How does that old song go-NEXT VERSE SAME AS THE FIRST.As i have said before on here.I have been a fan of tna since they first came on.Way before hogan and before even dixie.When the show was a weekly pat per view show.And even in more recent years i have seen wreslters grow into the company and now isee them being replace with the old talent.I mean if you followed tna like i have beofre hogan/bischoff just think of the wreslters you dont see anymore.I was thinking about that tonight during the show.There is alot of regular tna talent right now on the holding shelf and not being used.Dont get me wrong i think they are better than the joke wwe.But i just would like more orignal storylines i guess.I love seeing mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.......anderson...finally getting the push that the wee never gave him......................................anderson. And aj flair i mean styles has got to start talking like himself and not ric.I mean i like that ric is his manager but i really hate that he has taken to speaking like ric now.Alot of room for improvement to me.And i am calling it right now.MR ANDERSON WINS THIS SUNDAY AT THE PPV IN THE 8 STUD TOURNAMENT.

UltimateBengal
02-12-2010, 05:55 PM
This weeks tna show review-SPOILER ALERT IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED AND ARE PLANNING TO WATCH THE SHOW.I first off have to say i LOVED the steelers and jack lambert refrence by taz in the show.As far as the show goes.Very predicatable storylines and i hate those.As i knew at the end of the show i knew hogan was going to turn on "the band".And that whole band gimmick and them sneaking around is gettting old real fast.Flip the darn script already as they have already did that storyline with them.Its wcw storylines in tna bascially.If it did not work the first time,what makes you think it will work now.And fans like me and "ultimate" are going to remember it didnt work and call you out for it.And i guess i am just tired of the redoing of old storylines.How does that old song go-NEXT VERSE SAME AS THE FIRST.As i have said before on here.I have been a fan of tna since they first came on.Way before hogan and before even dixie.When the show was a weekly pat per view show.And even in more recent years i have seen wreslters grow into the company and now isee them being replace with the old talent.I mean if you followed tna like i have beofre hogan/bischoff just think of the wreslters you dont see anymore.I was thinking about that tonight during the show.There is alot of regular tna talent right now on the holding shelf and not being used.Dont get me wrong i think they are better than the joke wwe.But i just would like more orignal storylines i guess.I love seeing mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.......anderson...finally getting the push that the wee never gave him......................................anderson. And aj flair i mean styles has got to start talking like himself and not ric.I mean i like that ric is his manager but i really hate that he has taken to speaking like ric now.Alot of room for improvement to me.And i am calling it right now.MR ANDERSON WINS THIS SUNDAY AT THE PPV IN THE 8 STUD TOURNAMENT.

Lambert-I agree with pretty much everything you said. Last night show was just ok, and "just ok" isn't good enough! I will say this though, I think Eric and Hulk are really trying hard. The problem? They are using the same old bag of tricks!! Like you said Lambert, there are still guys who haven't really been involved in the last few shows. I'm willing to be patient, cause I know it takes time to work everyone in. They have finally taken Joe and E Young off the shelf! There are some things that are working. I really like the Flair-Styles alliance. Flair is as sharp as I've seen him in a long time. It is funny that AJ is starting to sound like Flair, but AJ will be better for having worked with him. And Mr Anderson may be the most entertaining character in TNA! Good call on the tournament Lambert, I am rooting for the pride of Green Bay, no not Favre, Mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..Anderson!.................... .................................................. ....Anderson!!!!!:drink:

WH
02-14-2010, 03:14 PM
Raw was surprisingly good this week. They are building towards Wrestlemania very well and haven't given away matches 1 ppv too early like they do normally. Although you can get an Idea of what they are going to be, nothing is for sure.

The DX, Straight Edge Society, ShowMiz match was PPV quality sans the ending. I really had hope the SES would have won, though. Miz is gaining some steam with the fans as a Heel you love to hate and IMO he doesn't need Slobberpuss hulking around with him.

I hope HBK costs HHH his match next week somehow. I want to see 1 last HBK HHH match. Those two can truly bring the housedown. Even moreso than Taker Michaels.

lambertlunaticfan
02-15-2010, 03:05 AM
Well i just got done watching the ppv.And i can not belive i wasted my money on it.D'angelo dinero the pope-ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!.They put him over mr anderson.I still can not belive it.I understand they need someone to rival mr anderson but come on.I mean d'angelo ripped off his gimmick from (ULTIMATE I NEED YOUR HELP HERE) a wcw wreslter.He was towards the end of wcw and came in to like purple and was like modeled after prince.That might have even been his ring name.I might have to go threw my old wcw nitro tapes and look for it.But anyway, dangelo doesnt know if he is going to modeled after prince or micheal jackson,his gimmick is a cross bewteen both of them.I mean whats up with that stubid mask he wears.I am waiting for the one glove look from him.I know i am just upset that he beat my man.But i guess its the fact that he is not a good wrestler,i mean compared to angle who anderson beat earlier in the show.As far as the rest of the ppv goes.I really think brooke hogan is going to be written into a storyline as they keep showing her there.And the fact that jimmy hart was there is not a shock.The fact it took this long is.Saying he carrys hogans bags.And i do have to say this about mr anderson-ENOUGH PROMOS ALREADY.They have him talk wayyyyyyyy to much.He did like 5 promos during this one show.I mean i know they guy is one of the best on the microphone but over doing it.And i think its funny its gone from the nwo to the band to now the wolfpac.Thats funny,and its funny that hall and the kid dont have contracts to work there but still show up and beat people up.I mean all i know is i dont work at best buy and i could not go there and help customers.And ric flair is getting way carried away but thats why people love him.I just have gotton tired of his antics.But i am glad to see stlyes won.And of course they had the nasty boys win cause if they didnt that whole storyline would be done as noone wants to see them anyway.SERIOUSLY????THE POPE BEAT MRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ANDERSON......I GOT BEAT BY WHO..........ANDERSON...................:banging:

WH
02-15-2010, 03:41 AM
Lambert, it's pretty sad that the most entertaining guy on TNA is a WWE castoff.

UltimateBengal
02-15-2010, 05:18 PM
Well i just got done watching the ppv.And i can not belive i wasted my money on it.D'angelo dinero the pope-ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!.They put him over mr anderson.I still can not belive it.I understand they need someone to rival mr anderson but come on.I mean d'angelo ripped off his gimmick from (ULTIMATE I NEED YOUR HELP HERE) a wcw wreslter.He was towards the end of wcw and came in to like purple and was like modeled after prince.That might have even been his ring name.I might have to go threw my old wcw nitro tapes and look for it.But anyway, dangelo doesnt know if he is going to modeled after prince or micheal jackson,his gimmick is a cross bewteen both of them.I mean whats up with that stubid mask he wears.I am waiting for the one glove look from him.I know i am just upset that he beat my man.But i guess its the fact that he is not a good wrestler,i mean compared to angle who anderson beat earlier in the show.As far as the rest of the ppv goes.I really think brooke hogan is going to be written into a storyline as they keep showing her there.And the fact that jimmy hart was there is not a shock.The fact it took this long is.Saying he carrys hogans bags.And i do have to say this about mr anderson-ENOUGH PROMOS ALREADY.They have him talk wayyyyyyyy to much.He did like 5 promos during this one show.I mean i know they guy is one of the best on the microphone but over doing it.And i think its funny its gone from the nwo to the band to now the wolfpac.Thats funny,and its funny that hall and the kid dont have contracts to work there but still show up and beat people up.I mean all i know is i dont work at best buy and i could not go there and help customers.And ric flair is getting way carried away but thats why people love him.I just have gotton tired of his antics.But i am glad to see stlyes won.And of course they had the nasty boys win cause if they didnt that whole storyline would be done as noone wants to see them anyway.SERIOUSLY????THE POPE BEAT MRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ANDERSON......I GOT BEAT BY WHO..........ANDERSON...................:banging:

:mad:Lambert, I am soooooooooo mad about Mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Anderson losing to the Pope. You're absolutely right! How the hell can you have Anderson beat Angle and lose to a cruiserwieght with so-so skills?:doh:By the way, the guy you're thinking of is Prince Iaukea.....http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:yNDW-0zI2suJKM:http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/artist.jpg

I'm telling you, people can say what they want about Anderson, but the guy can get over with the fans. Easy E is going to blow it by not using his character correctly! At this point, I think I'd rather see Paul Heyman running TNA!!!:banging: I don't know why, but I enjoy it when Flair goes all stupid. He could teach these young dudes a thing or two! Jimmy Hart? Come on already! Brutus Beefcake is headed to the Impact Zone as we speak Brotha!!! And the only way I want to see Brooke is in a very small bikini!:drink:

WH
02-15-2010, 06:32 PM
At this point, I think I'd rather see Paul Heyman running TNA!!!:banging

I wouldn't want to see him running TNA, but booking and writing for TNA....hell yeah.

UltimateBengal
02-15-2010, 08:12 PM
I wouldn't want to see him running TNA, but booking and writing for TNA....hell yeah.

No doubt. He would be a much better writer than Russo is!

lambertlunaticfan
02-15-2010, 10:51 PM
I am gald i am not alone about this.I knew you would feel the same pain i was feeling watching that last night.I still can not believe they put that guy over like that.SERIOUSLY,DANGELO:banging:And you're right it was the prince i was thinking about (as i knew if anyone would know it would be you,i'll just call you YODA for now on).I knew his name had prince in it,and i went over my old wcw tapes last night and found out what his name was.I agree with everything you said.About mr anderson,Do you agree they had him in way too many promos last night?.Yeah bischoff is going to kill his charector.Mr anderson is the ultimate heel but you can not over sell him as that takes away from it.And by the way dont be surprised as beefcake has been backstage.Youre right heymen was good but dont get carried away he ruined ecw which had a better potential than tna does.I like biscoff but i think he is doing too much with too many right now.Let the storylines create themselves.But having mr anderson ose to the pope made no sense as one you had him lose to a nobody like that it takes away from all you built him out to be.AND AMEN TO YOUR COMMENT ABOUT BROOKE.Did you ever see those pictures of hogan putting lotion on her.That was the sickest thing ive ever seen-wow.They is something way off topic going on there.:mad:Lambert, I am soooooooooo mad about Mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Anderson losing to the Pope. You're absolutely right! How the hell can you have Anderson beat Angle and lose to a cruiserwieght with so-so skills?:doh:By the way, the guy you're thinking of is Prince Iaukea.....http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:yNDW-0zI2suJKM:http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrestling/pictures/artist.jpg

I'm telling you, people can say what they want about Anderson, but the guy can get over with the fans. Easy E is going to blow it by not using his character correctly! At this point, I think I'd rather see Paul Heyman running TNA!!!:banging: I don't know why, but I enjoy it when Flair goes all stupid. He could teach these young dudes a thing or two! Jimmy Hart? Come on already! Brutus Beefcake is headed to the Impact Zone as we speak Brotha!!! And the only way I want to see Brooke is in a very small bikini!:drink:

lambertlunaticfan
02-15-2010, 10:53 PM
Ultimate-I know you are upset about the mr andserson thing,but come on,.PLEASE TELL ME YOUR JOKING.PLEASE.......No doubt. He would be a much better writer than Russo is!

UltimateBengal
02-15-2010, 10:54 PM
Ultimate-I know you are upset about the mr andserson thing,but come on,.PLEASE TELL ME YOUR JOKING.PLEASE.......

What, the Heyman thing?:sofunny:

UltimateBengal
02-15-2010, 10:59 PM
What, the Heyman thing?:sofunny:
I am frustrated right now! I don't know who wrote the Anderson debacle, Russo, Conway or Ferrara. But whoever it was should be fired!!!:popcorn:

lambertlunaticfan
02-17-2010, 03:23 AM
Yes, the hymen better than russo thing.You can not be serious about that.What, the Heyman thing?:sofunny:

lambertlunaticfan
02-17-2010, 03:30 AM
Yes i totally agree with you on all of this.But you can't be getting crazy and saying things like hymen is a better writer than russo,thats just crazy talk.I know thats just the frustrating showing.As you can not mean that or i really misjudged you-just kidding.But seriously,you can not say comments like that to me,as it takes away from your "yoda" status i have of you.But as i said i agree with you.And yes that person who came up with that storyline should be fired.Unless it was russo than he should just be taken to the woodshed for a little bit and taken off writing for a little while.To steal from hockey,2 minutes,bad writing,put him the box to feel shame.But i find it hard to belive that russo would have written that.Hey did you hear kong has been suspended.And you boy the sponge might be done.See there is always a silver lining my friend.I am frustrated right now! I don't know who wrote the Anderson debacle, Russo, Conway or Ferrara. But whoever it was should be fired!!!:popcorn:

WH
02-17-2010, 04:22 AM
Russo had David Arquette as champ......he's auto-worse than Heyman.

What do you have against Heyman anyways? Not a big ECW Original fan?

UltimateBengal
02-17-2010, 10:03 PM
TNA iMPACT! is moving to Monday nights on March 8th and will be going head-to-head with WWE RAW every week. The announcement will be made at TNAWrestlingLive.com at 2:30EST today.

TNA President Dixie Carter tells the Hollywood Reporter that moving iMPACT! to Monday nights is a good move for her company and the industry as a whole. "We feel strongly that Monday nights is where the majority of wrestling viewers have been historically," said TNA president Dixie Carter. "Having two Monday night wrestling shows with healthy competition between them can make for great TV. Our goal is not to beat 'Raw' immediately, but we feel confident this will accelerate our growth and make it fun for wrestling fans," Carter said.

WWE spokesman Robert Zimmerman "It's somewhat of a different audience. On Monday nights we're one of the top cable shows. We're focusing on our new show for Syfy, "NXT," and 'Wrestlemania XXIV.". He also told Variety, "We're not too concerned. We're in good shape."

This is what all TNA fans have been waiting for!:thumbsup:Now it's time for Hogan, Bischoff and the boys to raise the bar!!! This is a GOLDEN opportunity to take TNA to the next level and give Vince McMahon a run for his money! I'm rooting hard for TNA, just hope they don't blow it like WCW did!

One more note, and Lambert I know you'll love this, Rob Van Dam was recently asked about whether he was going to TNA, and he answered...."I feel fairly optimistic because I know TNA is trying really hard to make a good deal for me and that's basically where we're at." I know opinions differ about RVD, but for me, it's a great move that will benefit TNA if RVD can stay out of trouble!:popcorn:

lambertlunaticfan
02-18-2010, 01:02 AM
Well it is about time.Like i have said ultimate they should have done this from the start.TNA iMPACT! is moving to Monday nights on March 8th and will be going head-to-head with WWE RAW every week. The announcement will be made at TNAWrestlingLive.com at 2:30EST today.

TNA President Dixie Carter tells the Hollywood Reporter that moving iMPACT! to Monday nights is a good move for her company and the industry as a whole. "We feel strongly that Monday nights is where the majority of wrestling viewers have been historically," said TNA president Dixie Carter. "Having two Monday night wrestling shows with healthy competition between them can make for great TV. Our goal is not to beat 'Raw' immediately, but we feel confident this will accelerate our growth and make it fun for wrestling fans," Carter said.

WWE spokesman Robert Zimmerman "It's somewhat of a different audience. On Monday nights we're one of the top cable shows. We're focusing on our new show for Syfy, "NXT," and 'Wrestlemania XXIV.". He also told Variety, "We're not too concerned. We're in good shape."

This is what all TNA fans have been waiting for!:thumbsup:Now it's time for Hogan, Bischoff and the boys to raise the bar!!! This is a GOLDEN opportunity to take TNA to the next level and give Vince McMahon a run for his money! I'm rooting hard for TNA, just hope they don't blow it like WCW did!

One more note, and Lambert I know you'll love this, Rob Van Dam was recently asked about whether he was going to TNA, and he answered...."I feel fairly optimistic because I know TNA is trying really hard to make a good deal for me and that's basically where we're at." I know opinions differ about RVD, but for me, it's a great move that will benefit TNA if RVD can stay out of trouble!:popcorn:

lambertlunaticfan
02-18-2010, 01:08 AM
And as far as that "rvd" thing ultimate----:blah::doh::banging::rofl::smoker::yawn::bash:-Just having some fun with you,my friend:wave:TNA iMPACT! is moving to Monday nights on March 8th and will be going head-to-head with WWE RAW every week. The announcement will be made at TNAWrestlingLive.com at 2:30EST today.

TNA President Dixie Carter tells the Hollywood Reporter that moving iMPACT! to Monday nights is a good move for her company and the industry as a whole. "We feel strongly that Monday nights is where the majority of wrestling viewers have been historically," said TNA president Dixie Carter. "Having two Monday night wrestling shows with healthy competition between them can make for great TV. Our goal is not to beat 'Raw' immediately, but we feel confident this will accelerate our growth and make it fun for wrestling fans," Carter said.

WWE spokesman Robert Zimmerman "It's somewhat of a different audience. On Monday nights we're one of the top cable shows. We're focusing on our new show for Syfy, "NXT," and 'Wrestlemania XXIV.". He also told Variety, "We're not too concerned. We're in good shape."

This is what all TNA fans have been waiting for!:thumbsup:Now it's time for Hogan, Bischoff and the boys to raise the bar!!! This is a GOLDEN opportunity to take TNA to the next level and give Vince McMahon a run for his money! I'm rooting hard for TNA, just hope they don't blow it like WCW did!

One more note, and Lambert I know you'll love this, Rob Van Dam was recently asked about whether he was going to TNA, and he answered...."I feel fairly optimistic because I know TNA is trying really hard to make a good deal for me and that's basically where we're at." I know opinions differ about RVD, but for me, it's a great move that will benefit TNA if RVD can stay out of trouble!:popcorn:

stlrtruck
02-18-2010, 08:24 AM
TNA now has to start some good foundational story lines that can carry it over the next few weeks and also solidify it as serious competition for ratings vs. WWE. Going head to head is a good thing, but it can also be the end of them too.

Adding RVD won't be a bad thing if he can keep himself on the clean side. But they've got to bring some younger talent in too. The problem is that they don't have the finances that WWE and Vince have to sign better talent to larger contracts so we'll have to see if they can leverage their future against Vince's ego.

UltimateBengal
02-18-2010, 02:17 PM
TNA now has to start some good foundational story lines that can carry it over the next few weeks and also solidify it as serious competition for ratings vs. WWE. Going head to head is a good thing, but it can also be the end of them too.

Adding RVD won't be a bad thing if he can keep himself on the clean side. But they've got to bring some younger talent in too. The problem is that they don't have the finances that WWE and Vince have to sign better talent to larger contracts so we'll have to see if they can leverage their future against Vince's ego.

Couldn't agree more Truck!:drink:

supa_fly_steeler
02-18-2010, 02:57 PM
wwe sucks. i hope tna steals the shows from now on out lmao.

get ashley massaro back. not only did she have a tight ass like a 18 yr old school girl but she was pretty decent wrestling wise.

UltimateBengal
02-18-2010, 09:31 PM
wwe sucks. i hope tna steals the shows from now on out lmao.

get ashley massaro back. not only did she have a tight ass like a 18 yr old school girl but she was pretty decent wrestling wise.

Rumor has it that Ashley is very close to signing with TNA! :popcorn:

lambertlunaticfan
02-19-2010, 12:43 AM
I thought tonights tna show was another step back ho-hum show for them.I mean the falir styles thing was alright but seriously again-the pope going for the title.And geta better gimmick,calling people by the wrong names is so 5th grade-dick,oh i am sorry i mean d'angelo.Yeah thats funny:rofl:And no beutiful people tonight really dissapointed me.But what wrecked the show for me was a tie between the hogan /abyass thing (that whinning of abyass just makes me turn the channel) and i think the winner is the angle using the troops to get himself over.I mean as a storyline or for real it just should not be done.I know i risk getting ripped on on here.But i know people that have been over there and they feel the same way i do about this.Like john cena doing it and now angle doing this in the storyline with anderson.I just do not like using the troops name like this.But i do have to say i loved how mr.anderson played it back right at angle.Man i love that guy as a heel.The wwe did not know they had a gold mine in him.Because they keep putting over the same guys over and over and all of them are old timers like the taker,triple h and ray "i only fight big guys to get over"-you could call them "the land of the lost".I hope that tna picks it up when they go head to head with them.

supa_fly_steeler
02-19-2010, 05:38 PM
Rumor has it that Ashley is very close to signing with TNA! :popcorn:

yesss i will watch tna if she joins.

she would get it :drink:

supa_fly_steeler
02-19-2010, 05:42 PM
I think the WWE is under using Johnny Nitro and before Mr Kennedy i think he will do great in the TNA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBbiyFs6M38

Dino 6 Rings
02-19-2010, 05:52 PM
I used to be a huge fan, got to meet some of the wrestlers, Big Show, Goldberg, Undertaker, Sable, Iron Shiek at a convention, couple others too...but that was like 10 years ago now.

What I watched, or tried to watch the other day Monday, was the Triple H vs John Cena match, I was actually enjoying it, they were giving each other a good battle, couple attempts at pins, big hitting moves and kick outs, some attempted submission holds, not sure what was even on the line for the winner, but it was turning into a classic match...then that dufus Irish champ comes out and kicks them both in the face or whatever and ends the match ding ding ding...such a freaking rip off.

Once in a while...let a main event finish as a main effing event already. It was so 1992 to pull that move...again, where a great match is interrupted by some bonehead, who really, didn't need to break up the match.

I'll be more likely to tune into TNA on a Monday, maybe, if I have the remote and the wife and kids are in bed and there isn't a hockey game, football game, college basketball game on. I might flip over during commercials to see what's going on...but maybe not.

Oh and for the record, I miss Old Kane. Someone needs to throw acid in that dudes face and pisss him off again put him back in the Big Red Machine garb and have him just power bomb throat slam fools for entire episodes again and again and again.

supa_fly_steeler
02-19-2010, 06:21 PM
does anyone remember when kane got chokeslammed through the stage? is that on youtube?

supa_fly_steeler
02-19-2010, 06:23 PM
whow just learned umage is dead.

R.I.P.

WH
02-20-2010, 04:15 PM
I hope that tna picks it up when they go head to head with them. Yeah, man, I'll tell yah, they are really Amping it up with the Nasty Boys as main eventers. And you think Heyman couldn't do better?

UltimateBengal
02-21-2010, 09:16 PM
I thought tonights tna show was another step back ho-hum show for them.I mean the falir styles thing was alright but seriously again-the pope going for the title.And geta better gimmick,calling people by the wrong names is so 5th grade-dick,oh i am sorry i mean d'angelo.Yeah thats funny:rofl:And no beutiful people tonight really dissapointed me.But what wrecked the show for me was a tie between the hogan /abyass thing (that whinning of abyass just makes me turn the channel) and i think the winner is the angle using the troops to get himself over.I mean as a storyline or for real it just should not be done.I know i risk getting ripped on on here.But i know people that have been over there and they feel the same way i do about this.Like john cena doing it and now angle doing this in the storyline with anderson.I just do not like using the troops name like this.But i do have to say i loved how mr.anderson played it back right at angle.Man i love that guy as a heel.The wwe did not know they had a gold mine in him.Because they keep putting over the same guys over and over and all of them are old timers like the taker,triple h and ray "i only fight big guys to get over"-you could call them "the land of the lost".I hope that tna picks it up when they go head to head with them.

Lambert, I thought this Impact was ok, but certainly not great. One interesting thing was the little riff between Hogan and Bischoff. I would love to see that develop into a storyline. Hogan vs Bischoff has a lot of possibilities and would be could go over well if done properly. As far as the Angle-Anderson segment..when Angle started talking about the troops and crying, I was thinking "really?". Angle is a legend in the sport, but he isn't what he once was, and I feel like they're looking for anything they can to get him over right now. As far as Anderson, his reaction was great! I laughed my ass off. I don't know that anyone could've pulled that off with humor and sarcasm the way he did! I agree with ya Lambert, that the WWE didn't use him correctly. The best thing TNA is doing right now is putting Anderson over as a heel, and he may very well be one of the best heels in the business right now!!! I wish Chris "Abyss" Parks would become a full time member of the creative team and help with the writing. That's where his real talents are, not as a wrestler. I've never liked his ring character, it's just a poor ripoff of Foley's Mankind.

UltimateBengal
02-21-2010, 09:19 PM
whow just learned umage is dead.

R.I.P.

Yeah, that was too bad that he passed. His real name was Eddie Fatu, the little brother of Junior Fatu(Rikishi). Man, wrestlers live a hard life, and endure a lot of abuse to their bodies. The life span for a pro wrestler isn't great. While it is scripted, those guys put their bodies through hell every night for us!:drink:

supa_fly_steeler
02-21-2010, 09:28 PM
Yeah, that was too bad that he passed. His real name was Eddie Fatu, the little brother of Junior Fatu(Rikishi). Man, wrestlers live a hard life, and endure a lot of abuse to their bodies. The life span for a pro wrestler isn't great. While it is scripted, those guys put their bodies through hell every night for us!:drink:

wow where has rikishi gone :O

yea r.i.p samoan spike :drink:

supa_fly_steeler
02-21-2010, 11:21 PM
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supa_fly_steeler
02-22-2010, 12:07 AM
Interesting finds

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jr-"dONT shoot prematurely" lol

dthOzDvehzE

Why cant the WWE be like this anymore.

lambertlunaticfan
02-22-2010, 12:27 AM
ULTIMATE-I am happy to read that you thought the same thing i did about that angle/anderson segment.And just like you the first thing i said when angle started with that was "seriously"?.And like you i was laughing at how anderson just flipped it on him.That was great.It showed his talents that he was able to flip it back on angle and have it play that good doing it.Yes,for sure he is the best heel in the buisness today.Not sure whats going on with that hogan/abyass thing.That just confused me.And i also have never really liked him as i awlays thought he just ripped off mankinds gimmick.And as far as the hogan bischoff thing you might be right as that could work good as a storyline.At least they would make it interesting and not the same old that that other wrestling has been doing for year.Putting over the same people with the same routines.I mean every match is the same with most of them.I hear that the main event for that march 8th show-hogan vs flair???:noidea:Lambert, I thought this Impact was ok, but certainly not great. One interesting thing was the little riff between Hogan and Bischoff. I would love to see that develop into a storyline. Hogan vs Bischoff has a lot of possibilities and would be could go over well if done properly. As far as the Angle-Anderson segment..when Angle started talking about the troops and crying, I was thinking "really?". Angle is a legend in the sport, but he isn't what he once was, and I feel like they're looking for anything they can to get him over right now. As far as Anderson, his reaction was great! I laughed my ass off. I don't know that anyone could've pulled that off with humor and sarcasm the way he did! I agree with ya Lambert, that the WWE didn't use him correctly. The best thing TNA is doing right now is putting Anderson over as a heel, and he may very well be one of the best heels in the business right now!!! I wish Chris "Abyss" Parks would become a full time member of the creative team and help with the writing. That's where his real talents are, not as a wrestler. I've never liked his ring character, it's just a poor ripoff of Foley's Mankind.

lambertlunaticfan
02-22-2010, 12:31 AM
I wrote a whole long post about it on this thread when it happen.Very sad as another wrestler does not see the age of 40.I mention all of that on the post i wrote on here.Yeah, that was too bad that he passed. His real name was Eddie Fatu, the little brother of Junior Fatu(Rikishi). Man, wrestlers live a hard life, and endure a lot of abuse to their bodies. The life span for a pro wrestler isn't great. While it is scripted, those guys put their bodies through hell every night for us!:drink:

WH
02-22-2010, 04:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/ay8HqvRpR6I

Undertaker nearly set on fire in a Pyro miscue, damn you Kane.


Great PPV matches last night. Great results. Perfect way to start off the final drive to 'Mania.

stlrtruck
02-22-2010, 08:55 AM
I've got to say I wasn't that upset with the TNA's whole "Dick Flair" thing. Thought it was entertaining that he's getting punked now. I would like to see more wrestling and less drama. Reminds me too much of WWE which has gotten so boring with it.

I'm hoping TNA puts together some good stuff before they go live because right now Vince has the wrestling world at his mercy and he could push them under in a matter of months.

supa_fly_steeler
02-22-2010, 11:05 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/ay8HqvRpR6I

Undertaker nearly set on fire in a Pyro miscue, damn you Kane.


Great PPV matches last night. Great results. Perfect way to start off the final drive to 'Mania.

lol i bet the pyrotechnic dont have a job no more :toofunny:

#1 Big Ben Fan
02-22-2010, 12:11 PM
Just let me know when Velvet Sky does playboy.

supa_fly_steeler
02-22-2010, 02:44 PM
can stacy come back to wwe pweeeze

lambertlunaticfan
02-23-2010, 03:36 AM
YES!!!!! -thanks big ben fan-Finally someone else that appreciates true beauty.And not live in the past.As there are so many people that want the same girls from the 90's back in wrestling.And do not realize that there are actually women westling now that are wayyy better than them grandma divas.I mean no offense but velvet is way better than anything that other wrestling has to offer.And she is not just a barbi like they all are.She can actually wrestle.I mean i dont watch wrestling for the chicks and if they are on there i want them to know how to wrestle.And velvet is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!Bring back the orginal beautiful people.Best enterance in wrestling today for sure.Just let me know when Velvet Sky does playboy.

supa_fly_steeler
02-23-2010, 05:57 AM
YES!!!!! -thanks big ben fan-Finally someone else that appreciates true beauty.And not live in the past.As there are so many people that want the same girls from the 90's back in wrestling.And do not realize that there are actually women westling now that are wayyy better than them grandma divas.I mean no offense but velvet is way better than anything that other wrestling has to offer.And she is not just a barbi like they all are.She can actually wrestle.I mean i dont watch wrestling for the chicks and if they are on there i want them to know how to wrestle.And velvet is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!Bring back the orginal beautiful people.Best enterance in wrestling today for sure.

if chicks are on screen they require 3 things from me

-hot as hell
-nice butt
-nice mellons

and a + would be good wrestling skills.

lambertlunaticfan
02-23-2010, 11:41 PM
Just watch a porn to get those things.if chicks are on screen they require 3 things from me

-hot as hell
-nice butt
-nice mellons

and a + would be good wrestling skills.

supa_fly_steeler
02-24-2010, 12:03 AM
Just watch a porn to get those things.

Yea true dat. But it's funny when Jerry Lawyer or whoever forgot his name lol that i think gets all excited like the stacy video :chuckle:

WH
02-24-2010, 08:58 AM
I love how no one gives a shit about Michelle McCool no matter how much heat she tries to get.

lambertlunaticfan
02-26-2010, 01:49 AM
I just got doen watching this weeks tna show.And yet another dissapointment to me.I think i am just expecting too much from them.I just would olike to see a differant kid of wrestling show.And it really isnt.Its just the same show i have seen before being redone now.I guess i would love to see and expecting to see freah ideas and new storylines that have not been done before.And get beyond the obvious storylines and more important the silly storylines like the one with mick right now.I get it eric is playiing with him.And its not bad enough you are doing one storyline like that but two of them as its the same with jarrett,is just wayyyyy to much for me.And is it "abyess" or "the abyess",as i always thought it was just "abyess".Anyway you say that charector is just annoying to me.But then like i have said i have never liked him.And for all the people that hogan could have personal put over why the heck would you choose him.And i can not say how upset i am that its the 2nd week in the show without "the beautiful people".They have way too many people on the roster and not enough show for them.I mean daffeny gets on but not velvet-come on.And again mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr anderson.........wait for it.........saves the show for me,even though of course did not like the outcome.............anderson.

stlrtruck
02-26-2010, 03:21 PM
I just got doen watching this weeks tna show.And yet another dissapointment to me.I think i am just expecting too much from them.I just would olike to see a differant kid of wrestling show.And it really isnt.Its just the same show i have seen before being redone now.I guess i would love to see and expecting to see freah ideas and new storylines that have not been done before.And get beyond the obvious storylines and more important the silly storylines like the one with mick right now.I get it eric is playiing with him.And its not bad enough you are doing one storyline like that but two of them as its the same with jarrett,is just wayyyyy to much for me.And is it "abyess" or "the abyess",as i always thought it was just "abyess".Anyway you say that charector is just annoying to me.But then like i have said i have never liked him.And for all the people that hogan could have personal put over why the heck would you choose him.And i can not say how upset i am that its the 2nd week in the show without "the beautiful people".They have way too many people on the roster and not enough show for them.I mean daffeny gets on but not velvet-come on.And again mrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr anderson.........wait for it.........saves the show for me,even though of course did not like the outcome.............anderson.

I was watching last nights show too. And it was a disappointment. Way too much back stage drama and not enough ring action. If they truly want to succeed and overthrow the WWE, then they need to let the talent work in the ring and not on the mic.

Bischoff is going to kill the company before it gets going and before it can even compete against Vince. They definitely need to straighten things out. As for Abyss, I don't mind Hogan putting him over, but a man that big never should have been turned in to someone who was afraid of his shadow. I mean really isn't an abyss suppose to be dark and scary?

lambertlunaticfan
02-28-2010, 01:42 AM
I hate to do it but i have to disagree with you about the bischoff statement.As you can not put this all on him.There are alot of hands in the creative cookie jar right now.But i also have to agree with you as this weeks show was another step back for them.And yes,way too much back stage drama being shown.As i said they should do something new and fresh and just not the same things they have already done.I dont mind the backstage storylines but flip the darn script and do new storylines and new angles and different drama.Not the same old been there saw that kind of thing.It's really stale storylines and the same old that got me to stop watching that other brand of so-called wrestling.I mean mic work is important in wrestling today so only have people good at it do it.And abyss or as ric flair calls him-the abyss (sorry i have been mis spelling his name) is not good at it and that whinning makes me turn the channel as you said its just stubid they made his charector into a whinning "bad word".And seriously as mic work goes stop having hernandez talk as he is proberly the worst ever.Wow,the segmant with him and mogan (who also needs work in the department) was just brutal for the ears.They need to bring something different to the table to beat that other company and the same thing with a different name is not going to do it.I was watching last nights show too. And it was a disappointment. Way too much back stage drama and not enough ring action. If they truly want to succeed and overthrow the WWE, then they need to let the talent work in the ring and not on the mic.

Bischoff is going to kill the company before it gets going and before it can even compete against Vince. They definitely need to straighten things out. As for Abyss, I don't mind Hogan putting him over, but a man that big never should have been turned in to someone who was afraid of his shadow. I mean really isn't an abyss suppose to be dark and scary?