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mesaSteeler
12-06-2009, 06:26 PM
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After hobnobbing around the NFL in the press boxes and sidelines, sports reporter Dale Lolley will let you know the insider scoop

Steelers-Raiders post-game thoughts

Though the players won't admit it, it has become painfully apparent the Steelers' secondary just cannot play without strong safety Troy Polamalu.

Without anybody in their secondary other than Polamalu who can consistently catch the ball, the Steelers just don't scare anybody.

Oakland's Bruce Gradkowski threw a number of balls up for grabs in Sunday's 27-24 win over the Steelers and the Raiders either came down with the pass or saw it fall harmlessly to the ground.

We already knew that catching the football was not Ike Taylor's strong point, but now it's become apparent that neither can anyone else, sans Polamalu.

And the group is also playing without any confidence as well. It's not a good combination.

Opponents are obviously targeting Willie Gay play after play and Gay has not been up to the challenge at all.

In fact, after Gay was beaten a couple of times Sunday, defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau just started sending him on corner blitzes.

I guess if you can't cover, you might as well go after the quarterback.

Head coach Mike Tomlin said Sunday that the team will consider changes in its lineup. The only changes they could make defensively would probably be in the secondary though the run defense allowed more than 100 yards rushing for the second consecutive game.

All you need to know about the difference between the Steelers defense of 2008 and the 2009 version is that Gradkowski completed five of 16 passes for 18 yards and two interceptions against them last season. Sunday, he threw for more than 300 yards with three touchdown passes.

I've taken heat all season long for blaming the defense for not holding leads late in games.

That was again the case Sunday. Anybody want to defend the indefensible defense this week?

I was not a big fan of Tomlin's decision to attempt a 53-yard field goal on the opening play of the fourth quarter and even after Tomlin's explanation that Jeff Reed had been making them from there before the game, I'm still not.

With a four-point lead, why punt there and make the Raiders - who had not shown anything offensively to that point - drive the length of the field?

By giving Oakland the ball at its own 43, all the Raiders needed was 20 yards to get into field goal range. They did better than that, scoring the first of three fourth quarter touchdowns.

Rashard Mendenhall did not have a carry in the entire second quarter.

He didn't even set foot on the field as Willie Parker was given two consecutive series of play - the first a two-play touchdown drive while Mewelde Moore was in on the final possession of the second quarter in the two-minute offense.

I'm all for keeping everyone involved, but that's taking it to the extreme.

Ben Roethlisberger made one bad mistake in this one, throwing a pick from the Oakland 16 late in the first half.

He forced that throw to Hines Ward, who was open coming out of his break, but certainly was not once Roethlisberger let go of the ball.

It was the only sign of post-concussion play that Roethlisberger really showed.
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El-Gonzo Jackson
12-06-2009, 06:38 PM
I'm wondering if we can get Alabama NT Shaun Cody with the 15th pick in the draft.

Sorry, but if you cant beat KC and OAK, then you are not gonna win a Super Bowl.

Preacher
12-06-2009, 06:44 PM
I'm wondering if we can get Alabama NT Shaun Cody with the 15th pick in the draft.

Sorry, but if you cant beat KC and OAK, then you are not gonna win a Super Bowl.

Sadly, those were my thoughts exactly. Not only SB, but I do have doubts this year about the playoffs.

It is living up to the 2 years on, 1 year off cycle of the 2000s.

But I think this year has shown, the pressing need is CB before anywhere else, including NT.

mesaSteeler
12-06-2009, 06:51 PM
Unfortunately I have to agree with both El Gonzo and Preacher. We are not going to the Super Bowl this year. In my 45 years of watching Steelers football this has to be one of the most disappointing seasons I can remember. Well now we will now find out how good a coach Tomlin really is. As far as what players we take I could taking an NT but I think a more immediate need is a DB.

El-Gonzo Jackson
12-06-2009, 07:02 PM
But I think this year has shown, the pressing need is CB before anywhere else, including NT.

Steelers spent a 3rd round pick and a 5th round pick on CB last year. I really dont think CB is a priority. I still expect to see Taylor, Gay, Burnett, Lewis and a veteran. The absence of Polamalu and Aaron Smith hurts more than anything.

Expect to see ILB, NT, OT drafted.

tony hipchest
12-06-2009, 07:20 PM
Rashard Mendenhall did not have a carry in the entire second quarter.

He didn't even set foot on the field as Willie Parker was given two consecutive series of play - the first a two-play touchdown drive – while Mewelde Moore was in on the final possession of the second quarter in the two-minute offense.

I'm all for keeping everyone involved, but that's taking it to the extreme.

he still shoulda been able to execute from the bench. :hunch:

oh well... cant question the coaches. atleast we will have a fresh mendenhall and willie for the post season. :laughing:

srk173
12-06-2009, 07:22 PM
[QUOTE=mesaSteeler;721277]NFL from the sidelines
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Ben Roethlisberger made one bad mistake in this one, throwing a pick from the Oakland 16 late in the first half.

You are forgetting the sack in field goal range that forced reed to try a 53 yarder instead of a 43 yarder.

And just for fun we gave away 9 points at least 3 on the pick, 3 when they qb sneaked on 4th&1, and 3 from the sack in field goal range. In my book that is horrible coaching by tomlin. forget the offense, defense or special teams, these losses come straight off bad coaching.

MasterOfPuppets
12-06-2009, 07:27 PM
Steelers spent a 3rd round pick and a 5th round pick on CB last year. I really dont think CB is a priority. I still expect to see Taylor, Gay, Burnett, Lewis and a veteran. The absence of Polamalu and Aaron Smith hurts more than anything.

Expect to see ILB, NT, OT drafted.
i think a FS should be high on the list as well ...was clark even on the field today ? he sure as hell was nowhere around the ball. :noidea:

tony hipchest
12-06-2009, 07:30 PM
You are forgetting the sack in field goal range that forced reed to try a 53 yarder instead of a 43 yarder.

And just for fun we gave away 9 points at least 3 on the pick, 3 when they qb sneaked on 4th&1, and 3 from the sack in field goal range. In my book that is horrible coaching by tomlin. forget the offense, defense or special teams, these losses come straight off bad coaching.

good post. but if the coaches opt to go for a 65 yd fg, its up to the players to execute it. :rolleyes:

Steeler
12-06-2009, 07:32 PM
he still shoulda been able to execute from the bench. :hunch:

oh well... cant question the coaches. atleast we will have a fresh mendenhall and willie for the post season. :laughing:

Willie Parker is not a very good RB. Mendy is a good not great back but Parker is a joke. Go look up his stats.

stillers4me
12-06-2009, 07:36 PM
good post. but if the coaches opt to go for a 65 yd fg, its up to the players to execute it. :rolleyes:

Damn straight. The coaches are never, ever to be blamed. Ben is 2 weeks recovering from a concussion, but dammit......call that QB sneak. Yeah baby........push over the line with your head, ya big sissy! :banging:

rich4eagle
12-06-2009, 07:37 PM
I'm wondering if we can get Alabama NT Shaun Cody with the 15th pick in the draft.

Sorry, but if you cant beat KC and OAK, then you are not gonna win a Super Bowl.


Winners beat the losers...........the Steelers have tried to lose a bunch of games in the Q 4. And three have been against lesser teams. I blame that squarely on Tomlin for playing not to lose in the end game which definitely ends up losing.

Not sure he learned anything.................His game strategy espcially end game has sucked q4 all year.

Drafting Cody would be dumber than the worst Browns pick

I hope mgt is way smarter than that............:tt03:

only dumb luck gets us in the playoffs now:banging:

SteelCityMom
12-06-2009, 07:49 PM
[QUOTE=mesaSteeler;721277]NFL from the sidelines
http://nflfromthesidelines.blogspot.com/


Ben Roethlisberger made one bad mistake in this one, throwing a pick from the Oakland 16 late in the first half.

You are forgetting the sack in field goal range that forced reed to try a 53 yarder instead of a 43 yarder.

And just for fun we gave away 9 points at least 3 on the pick, 3 when they qb sneaked on 4th&1, and 3 from the sack in field goal range. In my book that is horrible coaching by tomlin. forget the offense, defense or special teams, these losses come straight off bad coaching.

So you really think those 9 points were the backbreaker? No mention of the 21 points the D let up in the 4th?

Was the O perfect? No...but they stepped up when they needed to.

Was the D perfect? Up until the 4th quarter, they were pretty damn close, then they absolutely dropped the ball (literally and figuratively) when it mattered most.

The coaches made good calls (for the most part), the players ultimately underperformed.

BlastFurnace
12-06-2009, 07:53 PM
I thought the 53 yard attempt was the turning point of the game for the Raiders. To me, I bury them deep in their own territory. Incredibly stupid call by Tomlin to do that. Let's see....Tomlin wouldn't go for a 50+ FG to win in Kansas City, but he will make the incredibly stupid decision to do it in one of the toughest places in the league....real smart Mike.

Also, get the 3 points early in the game.

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-06-2009, 08:39 PM
I didn't get to see most of the game because I was at work, but from what I can tell you can't pin this on the offense.

There is no excuse for giving up that many points to Oakland :doh:

I_Bleed_Black_And_Gold
12-06-2009, 08:40 PM
[QUOTE=srk173;721394]


Was the D perfect? Up until the 4th quarter, they were pretty damn close, then they absolutely dropped the ball (literally and figuratively) when it mattered most.


Really a disturbing trend isn't it?

Bluedust
12-06-2009, 08:47 PM
The problem?

Bruce Gradkowski
Oakland Raiders
20/33, 308 YDS, 3 TD 121.8 QB Rating.

Hope this helps.

SteelCityMom
12-06-2009, 08:52 PM
[QUOTE=SteelCityMom;721431]

Really a disturbing trend isn't it?

Yes, it definitely is...and I got yelled at by my better half for calling the game a loss when the Raiders went up 13-10, but I just knew...didn't expect there to be 2 more TD's by both teams, but I called it. It's like you can't trust the D this year with Troy out...against anyone.

mesaSteeler
12-06-2009, 10:05 PM
I am concerned that the players may be losing faith in the coaches. It's tough to execute if you don't believe in what you are executing. The secondary is not playing with any confidence at all. I see too much silly prancing around after a successful play which to me is a mark of an undisciplined team. I hope I'm wrong but we've seen signs of finger pointing already. This is not the band of brothers that won the Super Bowl last year. I grant that lack of execution is a problem but I believe there is more wrong with this team than that. There is plenty of blame to go around and the coaches must take some responsibility as well.

To fix it will be up to the Art Rooney and Tomlin but no one on this team should feel that their job is safe.