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UltimateBengal
12-06-2009, 10:15 PM
As an independent, I can't stand to watch either of these guys. Both are self absorbed, delusional, divisive, and filled with hatred! They are each so loyal to their corrupt parties, that they have no perception of reality! Hannity hates everything Obama, and purposely tries to bend the facts to suit his anti Obama point of view! If Obama announced that he hated Mac-n-ceese, Hannity would be on the air that night with a huge bowl of macaroni, proclaiming Obama anti American! As for Olbermann, he is convinced that anything not covered by the liberal umbrella, is the work of Lucifer. And he still insist on bringing Bush back into the conversation, even though he's been out of office for a year. He a smug, arrogant ass! I have watched the Dems and Republicans rape this country year after year, for their own political gains and agendas, and Hannity and Olbermann are perfect talking heads for each!!! Parties of the people, gimme a break!!!:mad:

SteelCityMom
12-06-2009, 10:23 PM
I'm with you...as a Libertarian, I can't possibly pick which one I hate more, so I just make it part of my life's work to never watch either. If I want more spin than an ice dancer with my news, I'll just watch The Daily Show...where at least it's meant to be comical.

tony hipchest
12-06-2009, 10:24 PM
olberman knows he is an act. he plays up to his paycheck (he is a former sportscenter broadcaster for God's sakes). hannity actually totally takes himself serioulsy, thus he is the bigger joke.

(i dont watch either, but loved olberman and patrick back in the day)

UltimateBengal
12-06-2009, 10:28 PM
I'm with you...as a Libertarian, I can't possibly pick which one I hate more, so I just make it part of my life's work to never watch either. If I want more spin than an ice dancer with my news, I'll just watch The Daily Show...where at least it's meant to be comical.

Isn't Scarborough a Libertarian? He's one of the few guys I can stand to watch. He has no problems calling out anyone of either party.

KeiselPower99
12-06-2009, 10:41 PM
I listen to 2 radio shows on a regular basis. Glenn Beck and Michael Savage. I like Hannity to a point but he too much a Republican Party guy then a free thinker.

UltimateBengal
12-06-2009, 10:45 PM
I listen to 2 radio shows on a regular basis. Glenn Beck and Michael Savage. I like Hannity to a point but he too much a Republican Party guy then a free thinker.

I didn't use to mind Beck that much, but since he went to Fox, he's just went WAY over the top!:crazy01:

SteelCityMom
12-06-2009, 10:59 PM
Isn't Scarborough a Libertarian? He's one of the few guys I can stand to watch. He has no problems calling out anyone of either party.

No, he's Republican. Not an over the top one though. I've seen his morning show a few times...he's pretty fair minded IMO. I just can't stand to watch too much of either FoxNews or MSNBC anymore...it's like they're competing with each other for who can have more sensationalism in their reporting.

revefsreleets
12-07-2009, 02:28 PM
Hannity is, IMO, much more palatable than Olbermann. He's just so snarky and hateful, with his fake indignation and air of superiority. You could tell when Kieth talked about GW that he really and truly hated everything about the man.

Hannity isn't THAT much better, but just about anything is better than Kieth Olbermann.

HometownGal
12-07-2009, 02:52 PM
Both of them are self-serving, loudmouth buffoons. I can't say I appreciate what spews from either of their mouths.

UltimateBengal
12-07-2009, 09:11 PM
See.. I knew there was a reason I liked you! :hug:

Can't stand any of them. Hannity, Olberman, Coulter, Moore... I'd like to take the whole lot of them, tie them up in a burlap sack filled with Mexican fighting roosters, and chuck 'em off a bridge.

Recommendation for a really entertaining show: The Armstrong & Getty show (http://armstrongandgetty.talk910.com/main.html) out of San Francisco. They're podcasted from 9 AM to 1 PM EST. They're merciless on both parties and also funny.

Sounds like a winner to me Slash!:chuckle:I would love to see Hannity and Olbermann debate each other and see who's head would explode first!:thumbsup:

Venom
12-08-2009, 10:08 AM
The Biggest joke on television is Keith Olbermann . No talent loser .

SCSTILLER
12-08-2009, 11:45 AM
Sounds like a winner to me Slash!:chuckle:I would love to see Hannity and Olbermann debate each other and see who's head would explode first!:thumbsup:

Pay per view cage fighting debate to the death, last one standing, well, is still annoying.

Vincent
12-08-2009, 01:38 PM
I like olbermann better as Rachel Maddow.

http://images.politico.com/global/click/politico44/091022_olbermann_maddow_composite_392.jpg

UltimateBengal
12-08-2009, 02:13 PM
I like olbermann better as Rachel Maddow.

http://images.politico.com/global/click/politico44/091022_olbermann_maddow_composite_392.jpg

Kieth always looks constipated!:hunch:

UltimateBengal
01-20-2010, 09:45 PM
After Scott Brown winning in Massachusetts , Hannity is about to have an on air orgasm tonight while he's talking with Sarah Palin! :popcorn:

GBMelBlount
01-20-2010, 10:18 PM
They are each so loyal to their corrupt parties, that they have no perception of reality! :

You don't know what you are talking about friend. Hannity is most loyal to conservative principles. How could he not have disdain for Obamas socialistic tendencies and corruption.

Also, it irritates me when people have to state that they are "independent". What is your point? Are you somehow more intellectual, enlightened, open minded and objective?

MACH1
01-20-2010, 10:29 PM
You don't know what you are talking about friend. Hannity is most loyal to conservative principles. How could he not have disdain for Obamas socialistic tendencies and corruption.

Also, it irritates me when people have to state they are "independent". What is your point? Are you somehow more intellectual, enlightened, open minded, etc?

Makes it easier to flip flop. :chuckle:

UltimateBengal
01-20-2010, 10:40 PM
You don't know what you are talking about friend. Hannity is most loyal to conservative principles. How could he not have disdain for Obamas socialistic tendencies and corruption.

Also, it irritates me when people have to state that they are "independent". What is your point? Are you somehow more intellectual, enlightened, open minded and objective?

While I respect your viewpoints, I do disagree. Both Hannity and Olbermann are bitter, spiteful people who use their exposure to promote the ideas of their parties interests, not that of ALL American people! I don't care what they profess to be, they have each proven what they are by their actions and comments.

As far as why I announce that I'm independent, it's because I choose to do so. I have no allegiances. I'm not bound by ideology of either party. I can truly think about whats best for America, and not the Democratic or Republican party!!!:drink:

UltimateBengal
01-20-2010, 10:42 PM
Makes it easier to flip flop. :chuckle:

Come on Mach, who flip flops more than a Democrat or Republican. They go with the wind and the polls! I go with my gut. Well, not right now because it's full of tacos!:flap:

GBMelBlount
01-21-2010, 06:30 AM
UltimateBengal

As far as why I announce that I'm independent, it's because I choose to do so.

I have no allegiances.


Exactly, you stand for nothing.


Ultimate Bengal

I'm not bound by ideology of either party. I can truly think about whats best for America, and not the Democratic or Republican party!!!:drink:


Really, you are some open-minded intellectual who thinks about what is best for the country and democrats and republicans don't? That drips of arrogance, friend.

Conservative principles are what this country was founded on and what made it the greatest country on this earth. So I will ask you as someone who is obviously intellectual and open-minded, does the fact Hannity has an arrogant and combative tone in his delivery diminish the validity of his conservative principles?.

It irritates me when people carefully position themselves as independents, with no conviction and standing for nothing except open-mindedness and intellectual superiority while throwing stones at everyone else, while safe from ridicule themselves......because they stand for nothing.

I call that a "coward".....but that is just my opinion. :drink:

Venom
01-21-2010, 08:19 AM
Olbermann is a load .

GBMelBlount
01-21-2010, 08:57 AM
Olbermann is a load .

Indeed.

But the larger issue imo is that anyone who is intellectually honest and open minded, as independents apparently are, should be able to reason that 80% of what Olbermann (and most modern day liberals) stands for are things that have been disastrous for this country, not only based on history, but based on the principles this country was founded on..... freedom, liberty, justice and protection from government tyranny.

Vincent
01-21-2010, 12:46 PM
I would love to see Hannity and Olbermann debate each other and see who's head would explode first!:thumbsup:

That would be spectacular.

I think olberdouche's head would explode first because he seems like he'd let people under his skin with his self righteousness and condescension. And if nothing else, it'd improve his ratings. :chuckle:

This is an interesting thread. There seems to be independent thinking going on here.

UltimateBengal
01-21-2010, 01:15 PM
Exactly, you stand for nothing.




Really, you are some open-minded intellectual who thinks about what is best for the country and democrats and republicans don't? That drips of arrogance, friend.

Conservative principles are what this country was founded on and what made it the greatest country on this earth. So I will ask you as someone who is obviously intellectual and open-minded, does the fact Hannity has an arrogant and combative tone in his delivery diminish the validity of his conservative principles?.

It irritates me when people carefully position themselves as independents, with no conviction and standing for nothing except open-mindedness and intellectual superiority while throwing stones at everyone else, while safe from ridicule themselves......because they stand for nothing.

I call that a "coward".....but that is just my opinion. :drink:

Arrogance? Since when does putting the best interest of the country as a whole over that of a political party constitute arrogance? No my friend, that's called common sense! And I'm not an "intellectual". I'm a hard working, down to earth, regular joe who is fed up with nothing getting accomplished because the two parties are always jockeying for position! Obviously, any criticism of Hannity obviously strikes a nerve with you. So, if someone disagrees with Sean, then they are on the wrong side. Just because you believe in what he does and says, doesn't mean I have to. That's what makes this country great! And how the hell does being an independent make me a coward? What an asinine thing to say! Sorry my friend, but I would rather be able to think for myself rather than have to follow the party line and speak the party rhetoric. I would rather not be another blind sheep who clings to every word out of Hannity and Olbermanns mouth!:thumbsup:

7SteelGal43
01-21-2010, 01:30 PM
:chuckle:I like olbermann better as Rachel Maddow.

http://images.politico.com/global/click/politico44/091022_olbermann_maddow_composite_392.jpg



Vincent, I hate to correct you my friend, but Maddow is actually Ralph Machio....and not even in drag

7SteelGal43
01-21-2010, 01:40 PM
Exactly, you stand for nothing.




Really, you are some open-minded intellectual who thinks about what is best for the country and democrats and republicans don't? That drips of arrogance, friend.

Conservative principles are what this country was founded on and what made it the greatest country on this earth. So I will ask you as someone who is obviously intellectual and open-minded, does the fact Hannity has an arrogant and combative tone in his delivery diminish the validity of his conservative principles?.

It irritates me when people carefully position themselves as independents, with no conviction and standing for nothing except open-mindedness and intellectual superiority while throwing stones at everyone else, while safe from ridicule themselves......because they stand for nothing.

I call that a "coward".....but that is just my opinion. :drink:





:applaudit::applaudit::applaudit::applaudit:

Vincent
01-21-2010, 02:00 PM
:chuckle: Vincent, I hate to correct you my friend, but Maddow is actually Ralph Machio....and not even in drag

I see your point, but the neck tells the story...and it apprears that Maddow isn't a stranger to the grid iron. :chuckle:

http://tv.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/ralph-macchio-ugly-betty-gues.jpg

7SteelGal43
01-21-2010, 02:19 PM
I see your point, but the neck tells the story...and it apprears that Maddow isn't a stranger to the grid iron. :chuckle:

http://tv.popcrunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/ralph-macchio-ugly-betty-gues.jpg

:rofl:
















WAIT ! Rachel Maddow ~ Ralph Macchio :scratchchin:

of COURSE, it all makes sense now :yep:

X-Terminator
01-21-2010, 02:35 PM
Sounds like a winner to me Slash!:chuckle:I would love to see Hannity and Olbermann debate each other and see who's head would explode first!:thumbsup:

Sounds like good entertainment to me!

I can't stand either one of those self-absorbed douchebags. Whatever beliefs they have gets lost in their never-ending quests to be the most arrogant and irritating men on TV/radio.

GBMelBlount
01-21-2010, 04:49 PM
Ultimatbungle

Arrogance? Since when does putting the best interest of the country as a whole over that of a political party constitute arrogance?

I can truly think about whats best for America, and not the Democratic or Republican party!!!..

Really so what is best for America that you feel conservatives have wrong?

Freedom? Liberty? Self determination? Low taxes? A controlled government?

Seriously lay it on me brother...I can take it!

....Since you are in the middle, I would imagine you disagree with some conservative beliefs and agree with some democrat beliefs, so please come out of the shadows friend and enlighten us, what democratic platforms make more sense than conservatives that would lead you to believe I am a "sheep"?

Ultimatebungle

Obviously, any criticism of Hannity obviously strikes a nerve with you...... I would rather not be another blind sheep who clings to every word out of Hannity and Olbermanns mouth!



I don't even watch hannity. :toofunny:

Ultimatebungle

I can truly think about whats best for America, and not the Democratic or Republican party!!!

I'm not bound by ideology of either party.


I'm not either.

I agree with the majority of the conservative platform because each position makes sense individually.

At least I come the front door and look you in the eye and let you know exactly what I believe as opposed to trying to peddle myself as a "independent" who truly cares about america" as though others don't...standing for nothing while throwing stones at everyone else...how embarrassing.

GoSlash27
01-21-2010, 05:25 PM
Also, it irritates me when people have to state that they are "independent". What is your point? Are you somehow more intellectual, enlightened, open minded and objective?
Yeah, pretty much. What of it? "Independent" means I don't need anybody to tell me what to think. Frankly, anybody who agrees 100% with either party needs their head examined IMO.

GBMelBlount
01-21-2010, 05:34 PM
GoSlash

Yeah, pretty much. What of it? "Independent" means I don't need anybody to tell me what to think.

Or it could be argued you don't think at all and stand for nothing.

If you sat in the middle and stood for nothing while throwing stones at everyone else, you couldn't understand why I'd call you out on it? I have no problem with those who claim they are "independents" just the one's who act intellectually superior and somehow more benevolent and altruistic simply by virtue of waffling and having no strong beliefs or principles.

Goslash

Frankly, anybody who agrees 100% with either party needs their head examined IMO


Really, why?

That seems a little prejudice and ignorant for an open minded "independent". What conservative principles that I believe in would lead you to believe I need my head examined?

UltimateBengal
01-21-2010, 06:16 PM
At least I come the front door and look you in the eye and let you know exactly what I believe as opposed to trying to peddle myself as a "independent" who truly cares about america" as though others don't...standing for nothing while throwing stones at everyone else...how embarrassing.

I know exactly what I believe as well, and not all of my beliefs are encompassed by one party or the other. I can look you in the eye as well, my friend! When I speak of the two parties, I'm talking about those in Washington who are suppose to be representing the interest of all Americans. But instead, they're greedy, self serving, corrupt, pompous asses who think they have all the answers, and anyone who disagrees is wrong. And I'm speaking of BOTH parties!!!

SteelCityMom
01-21-2010, 06:25 PM
Or it could be argued you don't think at all and stand for nothing.

If you sat in the middle and stood for nothing while throwing stones at everyone else, you couldn't understand why I'd call you out on it? I have no problem with those who claim they are "independents" just the one's who act intellectually superior and somehow more benevolent and altruistic simply by virtue of waffling and having no strong beliefs or principles.

I think you're taking this stance a little too personally. From what I've come to understand, being an Independent simply means that you don't base your votes off of what party a person in running under (as many Americans do). I don't see what's so wrong about that. It doesn't mean that Independents don't have strong beliefs and values...it just means they don't blindly vote a person into office.

You've seem to equated UB being an Independent to him (and many other Independents) as disagreeing with Conservative platforms and agreeing with Liberal platforms. What if it just means that there are certain aspects that they agree with on both sides?

Myself personally think that too many Americans nowadays just vote their party line without really listening to the politicians stances on various matters. It's refreshing to know that there are people who will investigate all sides of the political spectrum.

UltimateBengal
01-21-2010, 06:36 PM
I think you're taking this stance a little too personally. From what I've come to understand, being an Independent simply means that you don't base your votes off of what party a person in running under (as many Americans do). I don't see what's so wrong about that. It doesn't mean that Independents don't have strong beliefs and values...it just means they don't blindly vote a person into office.

You've seem to equated UB being an Independent to him (and many other Independents) as disagreeing with Conservative platforms and agreeing with Liberal platforms. What if it just means that there are certain aspects that they agree with on both sides?

Myself personally think that too many Americans nowadays just vote their party line without really listening to the politicians stances on various matters. It's refreshing to know that there are people who will investigate all sides of the political spectrum.

Beautifully said! You nailed what it means to be independent. It's not that it's any better or worse than being Democrat or Republican, it's just means that you have the opportunity to look at all aspects and make the best decision that you can. It's just a different approach. And more and more people seem to be leaning that way.

tony hipchest
01-21-2010, 06:51 PM
concerning the new infraction system, when anyone asks for clarification on what is "bullying new members" we can just reference the last page or so of this thread, right?

i was gonna ask about it cause i was kinda confused with the it being one of the 17, but now... not so much. :thumbsup:

Texasteel
01-21-2010, 06:54 PM
Beautifully said! You nailed what it means to be independent. It's not that it's any better or worse than being Democrat or Republican, it's just means that you have the opportunity to look at all aspects and make the best decision that you can. It's just a different approach. And more and more people seem to be leaning that way.

Believe it or not, that is what a lot of Democrats and Republicans do. They just align themselves with a particular party because their platform best fits what they believe. I am a conservative, but that does not mean that a Republican will automatically get my vote, nor does it mean that I would never vote for a Democrat, Independent, or Tea Bagger for that matter.

St33lersguy
01-21-2010, 08:18 PM
Hannity doesn't pander to the republican party. If you watch his show he has denounced his party for abandoning Reagan conservative values.

GoSlash27
01-21-2010, 09:07 PM
Or it could be argued you don't think at all and stand for nothing.
It could be argued, but that argument wouldn't stand up to scrutiny.
Political thought doesn't exist on a neat left/ right line, but rather on a plane. Most people establish positions that don't fall neatly anywhere on that line.
I also take umbrage at the charge that anyone who does not gobble the red kool-aid or the blue kool-aid has no firm position whatsoever and therefore "waffles". Point in fact, I (and I suspect SCM as well) have a very solid philosophical and legal base from which I have *never* wavered and it disagrees with both parties.

In my case, I see both platforms as far too self-conflicted to be rationally derived positions.
If you like what they're spoon-feedin' ya, then more power to you. :wave:

GoSlash27
01-21-2010, 09:10 PM
That seems a little prejudice and ignorant for an open minded "independent". What conservative principles that I believe in would lead you to believe I need my head examined?
I can't answer this question without knowing which positions you agree with and which you don't. Although... since you've admitted that you don't agree 100% with either party's platform, that makes you *cough* independent yourself. :chuckle:

GBMelBlount
01-22-2010, 03:36 PM
Ultimate Bengal

When I speak of the two parties, I'm talking about those in Washington who are suppose to be representing the interest of all Americans. But instead, they're greedy, self serving, corrupt, pompous asses who think they have all the answers, and anyone who disagrees is wrong. And I'm speaking of BOTH parties!!!

You see Bengal, you have the same logic as Tony.

Do you not understand that GREED, CORRUPTION, SELFISHNESS, etc. IS A TRAIT OF ALL PEOPLE?.

Not just wealthy people or capitalists as Tony has frequently implied, not just democrats and republicans on the hill, BUT ALL PEOPLE.

It does not not matter if you elect democrats, republicans or "open-minded" independents, government will still be completely steeped in corruption and abuse the rights and freedoms of it's people if allowed grow unchecked.....

and that my friend is one of my "sheeplike" conservative beliefs.......a limited government that cannot impose it's collective evil, greedy and tyrannical will on the people....:drink:

GBMelBlount
01-22-2010, 03:54 PM
concerning the new infraction system, when anyone asks for clarification on what is "bullying new members" we can just reference the last page or so of this thread, right?

i was gonna ask about it cause i was kinda confused with the it being one of the 17, but now... not so much. :thumbsup:

Fortunately, Bengal has a set of balls and stood for himself and defended himself well.

If you were the new member, I could see where it would be an issue. :chuckle:

GBMelBlount
01-22-2010, 04:00 PM
I think you're taking this stance a little too personally.

I appreciate your thoughts mom. Fact is, I don't have a problem with independents in general, or democrats either for the most part.

My only problem with some independents is with the ones that have a tendency to start every conversation by stating they are an independent as though they are somehow more open minded or enlightened, or bash both democrats and republicans as partisan sheep instead of making logical points that actually contribute to the discussion or issue being debated

As for democrats, it's only democrats like Tony who act as though greed and corruption is only a trait of rebublicans, or successful people, etc. or when they blindly support their candidate (as Tony did) and explain away their complete lack of qualifications for the most important job on this earth by saying..."I am confident he will surround himself with good people"..... :toofunny:

Is Bengal a nice guy and was I probably a little rough on him.......well, perhaps... :chuckle:

Sorry Bengal. :hug:......and welcome to the board!

I actually enjoyed sparring with you, friend. :drink:

GoSlash27
01-22-2010, 05:28 PM
and that my friend is one of my "sheeplike" conservative beliefs.......a limited government that cannot impose it's collective evil, greedy and tyrannical will on the people....
Except to tell you what you can see, what you can read, what your kids are allowed to learn, who you can f*&k, what you can ingest, how much freedom and privacy you are allowed to have, and how much you are allowed to question your leaders.
"Limited government" isn't a conservative principle, it's a conservative speaking point, used when it serves the conservative agenda, and ignored when it doesn't.

I happen to share your philosophy about limited government and strict adherence to the Constitution. I waffle less on it than than any self-proclaimed "conservative" I know. But my position is based in philosophy, history, and law, not party platforms and sound-bites.

UltimateBengal
01-22-2010, 06:07 PM
Sorry Bengal. :hug:......and welcome to the board!

I actually enjoyed sparring with you, friend. :drink:

No problem my friend. That's what makes this a great country. We can agree to disagree at times, but still have a beer afterwords!:drink:The bottom line is that no matter how corrupt and asinine our political leaders are, it is the American people who make this country work! You might say America prospers in spite of it's leaders, not because of them.

St33lersguy
01-22-2010, 07:01 PM
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No problem my friend. That's what makes this a great country. We can agree to disagree at times, but still have a beer afterwords!:drink:The bottom line is that no matter how corrupt and asinine our political leaders are, it is the American people who make this country work! You might say America prospers in spite of it's leaders, not because of them.

Couldn't agree more

GBMelBlount
01-22-2010, 11:27 PM
Except to tell you what you can see, what you can read, what your kids are allowed to learn, who you can f*&k, what you can ingest, how much freedom and privacy you are allowed to have, and how much you are allowed to question your leaders.
"Limited government" isn't a conservative principle, it's a conservative speaking point, used when it serves the conservative agenda, and ignored when it doesn't.

I happen to share your philosophy about limited government and strict adherence to the Constitution. I waffle less on it than than any self-proclaimed "conservative" I know. But my position is based in philosophy, history, and law, not party platforms and sound-bites.

Well said friend. I am now grinning in fact.

Heated words among friends and brothers is always good as long as everyone realizes that this is no different than siblings knocking about in the front yard, or best friends getting obnoxious over a pint of beer.

I never take disagreements or strong words personally and I am quick forget.

That's how I feel anyway.

I apologize if I offended anyone. :drink:

GoSlash27
01-23-2010, 08:23 AM
GB,
It's all good. :coffee: Just sayin' that "independent" isn't necessarily the same thing as "moderate", and the fact that most Americans don't agree 100% with either party's platform does not mean that they have no principles.

Getting back to the original point of the thread, all these people (on both sides) spout talking points, not philosophy. I listen to them just to keep an ear to the ground, but they're all just sock-puppets. If any of them have an original thought in their heads, I certainly can't tell.

GBMelBlount
01-23-2010, 05:57 PM
GB,

It's all good. :coffee: Just sayin' that "independent" isn't necessarily the same thing as "moderate", and the fact that most Americans don't agree 100% with either party's platform does not mean that they have no principles.



Indeed. Contrary to what I was implying, I believe both of your points are valid.

I guess I just wanted to rattle the cage a little bit to emphasize the point that having a view that is very consistent with a party philosophy (or being a conservative) for instance, does not mean that one is necessarily BLINDLY following straight party lines.