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SteveS
12-12-2009, 09:31 AM
Ok, well I think we need to try to get our minds off of all of the crap that has been happening recently.

So, in this thread I would like to discuss what everyone thinks are the best defenses since the beginning of the Cowher era, until now.

I think its a forgone conclussion of the greatness of last year's defense.

However, what about some of the other ones?

I think its fair to rank the other two Superbowl defenses right up there (which would be both the 2005 defense and the 1995 defense), since those two were Superbowl teams.

Besides our 3 Superbowl defenses, I would say the unit that sticks out for me the most is the 1994 defense (the year we lost to the Chargers in the AFC title game). I don't recall exact statistics. But I just remember that defense being incredibly dominant and also probably THE most brutal defense in terms of how hard and ferocious they hit. In some ways I feel that defense was maybe THE best defense we have had of the last 20 years. And because that team failed to make the Superbowl, they get overlooked alot.

Thoughts?

GoSlash27
12-12-2009, 11:29 AM
My votes would go to '08 and '95, with the '08 defense rivaling the '76 defense for honors as the greatest defense of all time.

SteveS
12-12-2009, 01:56 PM
Not Caper's 1994 defense over the 95 one? I do honestly think the 94 defense was better than the 95 edition.

supa_fly_steeler
12-12-2009, 01:59 PM
the 2004 defence was awesome, much better than 2005 and 2007.

StainlessStill
12-12-2009, 02:16 PM
My votes would go to '08 and '95, with the '08 defense rivaling the '76 defense for honors as the greatest defense of all time.

I agree with this. That sums it up. I would throw in 1994 as well.

1994, 1995, and 2008 were the best years to challenge that '76 team, with the 2008 defense was the best I'VE ever seen statistically being compared to '76. 2008, they were SO much fun to watch.

HometownGal
12-12-2009, 02:41 PM
Very easy for me - the Steelers 1976 defense was the BEST Steelers D ever (imho). :tt02:

GoSlash27
12-12-2009, 05:02 PM
Not Caper's 1994 defense over the 95 one? I do honestly think the 94 defense was better than the 95 edition.
'94 was pretty darn good too. Not taking anything away from it. I just give the edge to the '95 defense because it seemed a little better balanced.

BlastFurnace
12-12-2009, 05:09 PM
Very easy for me - the Steelers 1976 defense was the BEST Steelers D ever (imho). :tt02:

Agree 100% with you HTG. I remember that 1976 defense. That was the greatest defense ever.

The 2008 defense doesn't hold a candle to that group. It's not even close.

GoSlash27
12-12-2009, 06:32 PM
BF,
I remember that 1976 defense. That was the greatest defense ever.

The 2008 defense doesn't hold a candle to that group. It's not even close.
Oh, I don't know. '76 certainly ranks up there, but I don't think it's fair to say that '08 doesn't hold a candle.

'76 Steelers/ '08 Steelers
Total yards allowed per game 237.4/237.2 (tie)
Passing yards allowed per game 133.3/156.9 (edge: Steel Curtain)
Rushing yards allowed per game 104.1/80.2 (edge: Renegade)
Points allowed per game 9.9/13.9 (edge: Steel Curtain)
Plus, the '08 defense carried their team all the way to the Superbowl against one of the toughest schedules in history. (edge: Renegade).

I'm not saying that the '08 defense was better than '76, but I'd hate to have to be the one to declare a winner.

stb_steeler
12-12-2009, 06:54 PM
Very easy for me - the Steelers 1976 defense was the BEST Steelers D ever (imho). :tt02:

Agreed....Its on record. !!!

BlastFurnace
12-12-2009, 09:11 PM
BF,

Oh, I don't know. '76 certainly ranks up there, but I don't think it's fair to say that '08 doesn't hold a candle.

'76 Steelers/ '08 Steelers
Total yards allowed per game 237.4/237.2 (tie)
Passing yards allowed per game 133.3/156.9 (edge: Steel Curtain)
Rushing yards allowed per game 104.1/80.2 (edge: Renegade)
Points allowed per game 9.9/13.9 (edge: Steel Curtain)
Plus, the '08 defense carried their team all the way to the Superbowl against one of the toughest schedules in history. (edge: Renegade).

I'm not saying that the '08 defense was better than '76, but I'd hate to have to be the one to declare a winner.

Those are very good points.

My reasoning was the last 9 games they played that season, points allowed per game, and that I don't ever remember the 1976 defense giving up late leads like the 2008 defense did in the Super Bowl.

Most of the bad games by the 1976 defense was in the first 5 games of the season.

I don't know though...the numbers you presented are very interesting. Perhaps I have this year too much on my brain :>) Forgive me...I've been in mourning since Thursday.

BozMan
12-12-2009, 09:54 PM
'94 was pretty darn good too. Not taking anything away from it. I just give the edge to the '95 defense because it seemed a little better balanced.

I'd put '94 over '95 because Woodson was healthy that year.

hammy36
12-12-2009, 10:23 PM
Agree 100% with you HTG. I remember that 1976 defense. That was the greatest defense ever.

The 2008 defense doesn't hold a candle to that group. It's not even close.

Maybe we should have two groups of fans...those of us who were fortunate enough to see the seventies teams and those of us who weren't. I was born about a month after the fourth super bowl win and thus never really witnessed the true "curtain" days. As such, my vote would have to be the mid 90's. Lloyd, Kirkland, Woodson, etc. etc. Those defenses were magical to watch. Just my two cents.

BlastFurnace
12-12-2009, 11:35 PM
Maybe we should have two groups of fans...those of us who were fortunate enough to see the seventies teams and those of us who weren't. I was born about a month after the fourth super bowl win and thus never really witnessed the true "curtain" days. As such, my vote would have to be the mid 90's. Lloyd, Kirkland, Woodson, etc. etc. Those defenses were magical to watch. Just my two cents.

I absolutely loved the 1994 defense. My 2nd favorite of all time of the Steelers.

Steeldude
12-13-2009, 06:20 AM
using stats to compare the steel curtain of the 70's with defenses in the following decades isn't setting the entire picture.

the defenses in the 70's were, by far, superior to the defense in the 90's and later. it's something you need to see. the 70's defense scared the crap out of teams. now i understand the defense from 08 was good, but it doesn't hold a candle to the 70's. the steel curtain just plain dominated teams. they always gave 101% for 60+ minutes. there were no fruity dances when making a routine play. it was high-fives and immediately back to the front line to kill the offense again.

tmacsteelerfan
12-13-2009, 07:59 AM
It's definitely between '76 and '08, I don't think you could go wrong with those two seasons.

Steeldude
12-13-2009, 03:47 PM
It's definitely between '76 and '08, I don't think you could go wrong with those two seasons.

76 defense was far, far better than 08.