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Bobby_Walden
12-29-2009, 11:15 AM
OK OK - We might still make the playoffs. In any event, this team needs adjustments.

Here are my top 3:

1) Massive changes on the staff. OL, DB, ST coaches need to go. I know Arians won't be going anywhere so I won't waste my breath.

2) The team needs some young legs in the Secondary and at LB. Our defense has appeared slow this season. We need new CB's for sure. Draft, sign whatever - we need some speed and coverage ability.

3) Add a power running phase to the offense. Get rid of Spaeth and add a tough, big blocker of a TE. Add a power runner and a true fullback. Let's make sure we can get a 3rd and 1.

There are many answers...what would you do ?

X-Terminator
12-29-2009, 11:29 AM
OK OK - We might still make the playoffs. In any event, this team needs adjustments.

Here are my top 3:

1) Massive changes on the staff. OL, DB, ST coaches need to go. I know Arians won't be going anywhere so I won't waste my breath.

2) The team needs some young legs in the Secondary and at LB. Our defense has appeared slow this season. We need new CB's for sure. Draft, sign whatever - we need some speed and coverage ability.

3) Add a power running phase to the offense. Get rid of Spaeth and add a tough, big blocker of a TE. Add a power runner and a true fullback. Let's make sure we can get a 3rd and 1.

There are many answers...what would you do ?

#1 will happen, except maybe the DB coach. That unit suffers more from a lack of talent than poor coaching. Troy makes a world of difference, but when he's injured, there shouldn't be this much of a drop-off. That ties in with #2 - they, along with the rest of the D, definitely needs some youth infused into them. We HAVE to draft a LB to eventually replace Farrior and a S for sure. But since they drafted Burnett and Lewis, I doubt they draft another CB - they'll try to get one or both of those guys ready to start.

Your #3 can possibly be taken care of by one man - Frank Summers. If he impresses in camp next year and shows that he can be counted on, there's your lead blocker at FB, which would allow them to get rid of Spaeth and keep David Johnson as the big, blocking TE. Otherwise, they should look at FA for a FB who can do the job.

I would also bring in another K just for kickoffs, while keeping Jeff Reed for FGs. Like him or not, the man has been money for most of his career and should be re-signed. I don't want another Kris Brown or Mason Crosby here, where you have to hold your breath every time he lines up for a FG.

truesteelerfan
12-29-2009, 11:40 AM
New OL, Special Teams, and OC. Maybe a lot of us don't prefer Arian's playcalling style being pass first, but he has gained yards, however when he starts badtalking his boss (Tomlin) to his friends, and now the boss knows about it....I would hope he would be let go.....

Yes, our D has looked slow this year, is it fatigue? Age? Probably a combination of both....I haven't looked yet the potential replacements yet in either FA or the draft, but some more Ziggy motors would be a nice addition, hopefully some that can contribute on special teams, some more draft picks on LB (improve our backups?) and as much as I have defended Carter, we need another option as a back up at S.

I like the last post, and I'm hoping Summers will become our FB and power HB....like LaRon McClain (sp?) from the ratbirds?

Also, I would like to see Hampton work out in the offseason if we resign him. And I would like to keep Reed, but you are right.....need to come up with a new plan for kickoffs.....Sepulveda perhaps?

GoSlash27
12-29-2009, 11:50 AM
#1) DB coach. I disagree with the above. It's not a lack of talent, but rather a lack of preparation. Sorry, Ray. You certainly know the game... but I don't think you know how to teach it.
#2) Can we please go back to a power running game with a fullback? More Pro Set would be nice.
#3) More aggressive defense next year, especially on 3rd and long. Go after the QB!

CPanther95
12-29-2009, 11:53 AM
1) Go to 3 periods instead of 4 quarters.
2) Ties after regulation go to the team with the most Lombardi trophies.
3) Ban the huddle.

SteelGhost
12-29-2009, 12:21 PM
1.- Massive secondary changes, including Coach Horton, Gay, Taylor, Townsend. Find some decent personnel in the draft or FA.

2.- Find a MLB to replace Potsie and a NG to sub/replace Big Snack in the near future.

3.- If the FO decides to keep Brucey as OC, at least get him to use a frickin' FB :doh: hence, run the ball more !!

I have to mention a 4th change .... ST coach and an extra kicker for KO.

Steelboy84
12-29-2009, 12:33 PM
OK OK - We might still make the playoffs. In any event, this team needs adjustments.

Here are my top 3:

1) Massive changes on the staff. OL, DB, ST coaches need to go. I know Arians won't be going anywhere so I won't waste my breath.

2) The team needs some young legs in the Secondary and at LB. Our defense has appeared slow this season. We need new CB's for sure. Draft, sign whatever - we need some speed and coverage ability.

3) Add a power running phase to the offense. Get rid of Spaeth and add a tough, big blocker of a TE. Add a power runner and a true fullback. Let's make sure we can get a 3rd and 1.

There are many answers...what would you do ?

Well, your wish may come true because the word was Arians, the O-line coach, and ST coach are as good as done come next season.

And I agree with your 3 changes.

markymarc
12-29-2009, 01:34 PM
Here are the changes I would recommend:

1. There has to be changes in the coaching staff. While I get how the special teams was very good in coverage last season, this season has proven Bob Ligashesky couldn't coach very well. It's time for him and Amos Jones to move on. It's time to get a new OL coach. While we may not have the best talent on the OL, this unit needs an OL coach who can coach them up and get them to play at a high level every single week. Larry Zierlein could now maybe focus on the porn business :thumbsup: I realize that losing Troy was horrible, but I still don't think performance in the secondary should drop off that drastically. This secondary is absolutely horrible. You still have some talent back there and Ray Horton wasn't able to improve their play at all this entire season. IMO Ray deserves a lot more blame than he is getting at this point. Troy or no Troy the secondary play has been unacceptable. Now we can discuss Bruce Arians. This was Bruce's 3rd year as OC for the Steelers. At this point, the Steelers offense should be unstoppable. His first year they were still working with another offense. In the 2nd season he started implementing a lot of his plays. Now all of his plays have been implemented and there is no question we have great talent at the RB, WR, TE and QB positions. Of course the Arians supporters will say how the offense is in the top ten for total offense, but even after the past 2 weeks we are still not in the top ten for scoring offense (#13 right now). To me scoring offense is the best indicator how good your offense truly is. I get that turnovers and execution are part of our problem when getting in the red zone, but Arians is our OC and IMO he did not do a very good job this season. The highest our offense has been for scoring was #9 back in 2007. In 2008 we were ranked #20 and as of right now we are #13 this season. I think it's finally time to find the next OC for this organization.

2. We definitely need help defensively. I really believe Joe Burnett and Keenan Lewis can play CB for this team. I would not consider CB a high need right now for the defense. If anything they can bring in a FA to replace Deshea Townsend and then possibly draft one late in 2010. I think Safety, MLB and OLB along with DL our the biggest needs defensively. We really need to start getting younger on defense. I would like to see the FO franchise Hampton and then possibly look to find his replacement in FA or the draft. Right now I would love to see the Steelers get Rolando McClain in the first round and then that addresses the MLB spot. It would be nice to find an OLB that can give Woodley and Harrison a breather on game days. It's hard to say what we have in Ryan Mundy right now. Personally I would prefer for him starting over TC. I think Ryan Mundy can be a backup at the safety spot. Who knows what the Steelers will do with Ryan Clark after the season. If we lose him then FS might become our #1 priority defensively. I would like to see a safety drafted high in 2010 and get him ready to contribute to this defense down the road. And please just let TC walk after the season. There is no reason to bring him back because I am tired of seeing him get exposed each week.

3. The only issues I have on offense is our OL and the #2 TE spot. I think we have plenty of depth for the interior OL and who knows what A.Q. Shipley, Kraig Urbik and Tony Hills can offer. I really hope the FO extends Willie Colon because IMO he is our best OL player with Max Starks behind him. I think a good OL coach can help this unit and I don't think we really need to focus on drafting any OL players unless they let Willie Colon get away. It's time to end the Matt Spaeth experiment. He is a very good receiving TE, but can't play in this offense due to his horrible blocking skills. I want to see David Johnson as our #2 TE and then possibly pick one up in the 2010 draft to groom. I think we should pick up a #2 RB either in the draft or FA especially when FWP walks after this season. And depending on what happens with Limas Sweed we may have to get another WR in the draft or FA.

SteeleReign
12-29-2009, 01:50 PM
1) Go to 3 periods instead of 4 quarters.
2) Ties after regulation go to the team with the most Lombardi trophies.
3) Ban the huddle.

:rofl::rofl:

revefsreleets
12-29-2009, 02:00 PM
1. Replace all the players
2. Replace all the coaches
3. Brain transplants for most of the fans

That outta do it.

steelreserve
12-29-2009, 02:10 PM
1. More bitching and moaning
2. Stop complaining, you're a fair-weather fan
3. Repeat

stlrtruck
12-29-2009, 02:10 PM
1- STs, Oline, and OC coaches are gone
2 - Oline gets revamped and new OC gets told that the running game must be included in all game planning (doesn't have to be the priority but it will be more than 20 carries a game for the star rb)
3 - Defense must watch the chiefs, raiders, bengals (gm 1), and browns game every day during training camp

zulater
12-29-2009, 02:19 PM
1) Go to 3 periods instead of 4 quarters.
2) Ties after regulation go to the team with the most Lombardi trophies.
3) Ban the huddle.

:sofunny:

Bobby_Walden
12-30-2009, 12:46 AM
1. More bitching and moaning
2. Stop complaining, you're a fair-weather fan
3. Repeat

Nope. A fan since 1975.

The team needs to be shaken up a bit.

...and you suck.
:wave:

Neil-Still-Rules-14
12-30-2009, 12:58 AM
1. Sign a kickoff specialist
2. Use Sweed more
3. Find a couple guys who can fill in and play well when Polamalu can't play

X-Terminator
12-30-2009, 01:05 AM
Nope. A fan since 1975.

The team needs to be shaken up a bit.

...and you suck.
:wave:

Don't know much about steelreserve, do you? If you did, you would not have made this comment. He was being facetious.

ricardisimo
12-30-2009, 01:51 AM
Fire Ligashesky;
Relieve Arians of playcalling duties;
Draft Haden, Mays, or another top DB prospect in the 1st round.

GodofGridiron
12-30-2009, 06:09 AM
We are NOT drafting any CB's this draft unless a gem happens to fall at our feet and pickin spot 16 thru 22 if we miss the playoffs, i dont see that player available. We need to get back to fundamentals....poor tackling is a problem now ..poor communicaton of defense..missed assignments.....but i do agree Farrior needs to be phased out and the successor to Hampton brought in immediately.

This team aint that far off from another title. But if we wanna get back in serious contention we need one good FA signing on Defense whether that be a lineman or a ILB. I think defense is the only area we might make a huge splash in Free Agency.

If we can get back to a fullback in the offense we will be fine. Love our skill players so we dont have any needs really on this side of the ball. So with most of our early picks i think we should focus on Defense...maybe do a tackle on offense in rounds 3 or 4.

Rick5895
12-30-2009, 07:14 AM
B.A has done a decent job this season, my complaint is he doesn't adjust or the offense isn't consistant. This happened again against Baltimore. Great first half, 20 points, Ben had what 190 yards. Second half was in a word awful, 3 points had the ball only 4 plays in 3rd Q. I know execution is part of it but so is the scheme. That has been the calling card most of the season. I am not willing anymore to blame it all on Bruce, I am sure the other O coaches and Tomlin have some input but he is the OC. This team has not been good translating big yardage into points, that falls on the OC.
Need an O L coach. For the most part we have a decent OL that needs to be coached up. We were spoiled with Russ Grimm.
The ST coach is a must go.
In the draft focus on Safety and DT/NT, who ever is best on the board when we pick in the 1st round. Go for LB depth more DL depth later in the draft.

KeiselPower99
12-30-2009, 10:02 AM
1. Tell Arians that we need to focus on adding a tough physical running game into the playbook. I actually dont care if he is fired but just because Ben wants to throw the ball 50 times a game dosent mean we let him. Tell the offensive linemen that at the end of the year if we rush for more then 2500 yarda as a team they get an all expense paid trip to whatever tropical island or steak house they want. We need to be able to convert the 3rd and shorts (1-3 yards) and be nasty about it as well. With McHugh coming back next year he will be the number 2 TE and Johnson can be 3rd and we can cut Spaeth. Summers can be our short yardage power back and add a true FB.

2. The coaching staff. Not alot of shake up is needed. Maybe ST DB and OL could use some new faces. Arians will either accept the use of a power running game or he is gone as well.

3. We dont need to draft a CB in the first 3 rounds this year we have 2 rookies on the roster right now. I would add a NT to replace Hampton in a few years and a ILB to replace Farrior. Timmons should be moved to OLB where his speed can be used and Fox can replace him in the lineup. With a lil shake up and a few moves our defense can once again reign supreme.

Bobby_Walden
12-30-2009, 10:36 AM
Don't know much about steelreserve, do you? If you did, you would not have made this comment. He was being facetious.

Woops. Sorry then, my bad.

Thank for the heads up.

Dino 6 Rings
12-30-2009, 10:42 AM
# 1 Kick the ball out of bounds every single time and give the other team the ball at the 40 every single time. unless of coarse we actually re-learn how to tackle on kickoffs. Or put some Horse Steriods into Jeff Reed's leg so he can actually get a touchback once in a while on the kickoffs.

# 2 Get the Ball to Santonio Holmes even more!!!

# 3 Teach Carter and Gay how to tackle in the open field, oh and how to cover over the top, oh and how to actually get their hands on the ball when its in the air.

BlastFurnace
12-30-2009, 11:00 AM
1. I would not fire Arians, but I would fire the O'line coach.

2. Replace aging veterans (Carter, Kirschke, Townsend) and let the following veterans depart via FA (Hampton, Parker)

3. Get some good secondary depth. I realize that Troy is not replaceable, but the dropoff we have seen this year is utterly ridiculous. Carter or Mundy aren't even servicable replacements.

4. I have to add a 4th....replace William Gay as a starter.

markymarc
12-30-2009, 01:21 PM
3. Brain transplants for most of the fans


I guess we can only dream about being as brainy as you :thumbsup:

revefsreleets
12-30-2009, 01:26 PM
I guess we can only dream about being as brainy as you :thumbsup:


Actually, I'd probably change it to this....

1. Brain transplants for most fans
2. Leave the real decision making to the experts
3. See #2

steel9guy
12-30-2009, 02:16 PM
1.Fire tomlin, fire big ben, fire EVERYONE we suck
2.New stadium
3.see #2 on the comment above me.

markymarc
12-31-2009, 01:45 PM
Actually, I'd probably change it to this....
2. Leave the real decision making to the experts
3. See #2

Yes we all understand that the final decisions will be left to the experts. The purpose of this thread was to discuss what changes you would like to see as a "fan". So I guess according to your previous 2 posts everything is good to go for next season then :wink02:

revefsreleets
12-31-2009, 03:08 PM
Yes we all understand that the final decisions will be left to the experts. The purpose of this thread was to discuss what changes you would like to see as a "fan". So I guess according to your previous 2 posts everything is good to go for next season then :wink02:

Yes, as a fan, those ARE the changes I'd like to see...

markymarc
12-31-2009, 03:11 PM
Yes, as a fan, those ARE the changes I'd like to see...

I wasn't aware that the majority of Steeler fans needed brain transplants. Well I guess we can always dream about becoming such a superior intellect like yourself :thumbsup:

revefsreleets
12-31-2009, 03:17 PM
I wasn't aware that the majority of Steeler fans needed brain transplants. Well I guess we can always dream about becoming such a superior intellect like yourself :thumbsup:

You need new material...that line is old and getting boring...

markymarc
12-31-2009, 03:50 PM
You need new material...that line is old and getting boring...

If only we could post such fresh and exciting material like yours!

BleedBlacknGold0
12-31-2009, 06:19 PM
1. Cut Tyrone Carter, is it just me or does he constantly get penalized at the worst time? Also his celebrations annoy me. Dont celebrate after 1 defensive stop, celebrate after 3 or 4. Remember the Chiefs game?

2. Get a CB that can catch, at least 25% of the time. Remember the family guy episode where Chris is the golf ball boy and they just hit him with golf balls? That reminds me of the Steelers CB's they always have balls bouncing off their arms, chests, faces, and heads.

3. Remove Arians and Ligashesky.... I don't care if they make the playoffs you need to get rid of any weak links. Ben may like Arians but how many times do you line up on empty sets on 3rd and 2 before enough is enough.

HometownGal
12-31-2009, 06:48 PM
1.Fire tomlin, fire big ben, fire EVERYONE we suck
2.New stadium
3.see #2 on the comment above me.

Get rid of those damned Rooneys too. Damn it - we're freakin' entitled to a playoff appearance and a Lombardi every season. :drink:

LVSteelersfan
12-31-2009, 07:15 PM
I don't agree with drafting another kicker as a kickoff specialist. What a waste of a roster spot. As much as we dislike the kickoffs of Reed, we will probably be stuck with them for another year. All the more reason to hire a new ST coach and get some people to quit missing so many tackles. I agree that Farrior is ready to be phased out as much as it pains me to say so. Perhaps Fox can play his spot or they can rotate in and out and keep Farrior out of there on critical downs. He has been awfully slow at times and Tyrone Carter just doesn't make up for it like Troy does. How about draft another player like Troy. There must be another one out there somewhere ; )