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mesaSteeler
12-30-2009, 05:30 AM
Steelers need to keep Hampton
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By Bob Smizik | Wednesday, 12:30 a.m.

Nobody asked me, but . . .

* Casey Hampton is going to the Pro Bowl. Who knew? I hadn’t heard anyone speculating that Hampton might be one of the Steelers selected. If the fat man, who will be a free agent at the end of the season, still has some miles on him, and it looks like he does, the Steelers would be wise to bring him back for next season, either with a new contract or by placing a franchise tag on him. They’ve got enough defensive Casey Hamptonholes without having to worry about one at nose tackle.

* He has his critics and they are probably enjoying his current troubles, but my respect for Mike Tomlin has only grown through the way he has conducted himself through these difficult times. He’s a stand-up guy of the highest order and he’s going to be coach of the Steelers for a long, long time.

* Despite the loss last night to a mediocre UCLA team in some meaningless bowl game, Temple coach Al Golden should have been everyone’s pick as college football coach of the year. Gary Patterson of TCU got the Associated Press version of the award. Patterson took over a 10-2 team in 2006 and has gone 10-2, 11-1 and 12-0. That’s nice but it doesn’t compare to what Golden did. He took over a program that hadn’t had a winning season since 1990, that had been 30-137 in the previous 15 years, that had been 3-31 in the previous three years before his hire and in four years got it to 9-4. Concerning his resurrection of the mid-1980s Pirates, Syd Thrift said, ``It ain’t easy raising the dead.’’ Golden did that and some at Temple.

* The notion that Indianapolis fans were cheated and should get their money back because coach Jim Caldwell benched some of his starters in the second half Sunday is absolute nonsense. There’s no guarantees about who will play or for how long that comes with a ticket purchase.

* Jamie Dixon is one of the best basketball coaches I’ve ever been around, but I don’t think even he can get this Pitt team to the NCAA tournament. But if he doesn’t, it will be a short break. Dixon has some hot players coming who will bring Pitt back.

* The Pirates decision not to extend manager John Russell and leave him in what amounts to lame-duck status in the final year of his contract should surprise no one. It is typical of the tight-fisted fiscal policy of Bob Nutting that is carried out to perfection by Frank Coonelly. In essence, it is this: Never pay more than you have to for anyone. That might work in some business, but succeeding in baseball requires more risks than Nutting and Coonelly seem willing to take. The Pirates would no more think of having to pay someone not to manage than they would of being active in the free-agent market.

* This from Chris Dokish, who writes about all things Pitt for various publications. Three Pitt players were selected for the Pro Bowl -- wide receiver Larry Fitzgerald, punter Andy Lee and cornerback Darrelle Revis. All were Walt Harris recruits. Dokish reports that the University of Miami has six Pro Bowlers, the most of any college.

Rick5895
12-30-2009, 05:59 AM
I don't know what the franchise tag would but in an uncapped year it's worth it. SIGN HIM!!

Galax Steeler
12-30-2009, 06:43 AM
I would say if we can afford him we need to get him resigned. Hopefully it wouldn't be break the bank money.

supa_fly_steeler
12-30-2009, 06:58 AM
he's the best defensive tackle in the league, he just isn't mentioned enough because we had such a great linebackers corps of peezy, deebo, foote, farrior, haggans woodley and others to name to stop the run, he clogs up all the middle lol chris johnson witness it in the first game.

Vincent
12-30-2009, 07:43 AM
He's a handsome and powerful man.

KeiselPower99
12-30-2009, 09:04 AM
Actually we get 2 franchise tags next year and the season is uncapped as of right now. Hampton should be to resign. And he deserves it.

BlastFurnace
12-30-2009, 09:22 AM
Perhaps I am a lone shark here, but I would not re-sign him to a long term deal. I would franchise him for a year, but I would not re-sign him to a long term deal. That would be a huge mistake.

Pro-Bowl or not, we all know that the voting for that is flawed. We have been gashed for 150+ lately by two different teams and a lot of those runs are right up the middle. The Steelers cannot panick and sign a 32 year old lineman to big dollars long term. Part of our problem on defense is that we are aging and it is showing at key positions...D'line, CB, ILB, and Safety. If we give Casey big money, it will the equivilant to what we did with Gildon several years ago...giving big money to a player that could decline at any moment due to wear and tear and age.

We need to draft someone to replace Casey, and what we do know is that Hoke can step in for a year and play Casey's position. One of the biggest problems we have on the D'line is that they are all aging and we have no replacements for them other than Ziggy and maybe...maybe Sonny Harris. The rest...Smith, Eason, Keisel, Kirschke, and Hoke will all be 30+ next year. We need to look big picture here and not give long term money to Casey just because he has been a great Steeler.

I realize that some older players...Carter, Parker, Townsend, Kirschke...will probably be gone next year and will free up some money, but this team cannot afford to tie up the money free'd from the departing players into another older player. This team needs to add quality depth and get younger. Signing Casey will eat up some of those dollars that we need to do that.

We also cannot ignore that we have Woodley and Holmes coming up in the next year to re-sign. I would absolutely hate to commit big dollars to a lineman that has 1 or 2 years left and lose the younger core of our team.

BlastFurnace
12-30-2009, 09:28 AM
he's the best defensive tackle in the league, he just isn't mentioned enough because we had such a great linebackers corps of peezy, deebo, foote, farrior, haggans woodley and others to name to stop the run, he clogs up all the middle lol chris johnson witness it in the first game.

He is not the best defensive tackle in the league. I would take the following over Casey in a heartbeat:

Haloti Ngata
Jamal Williams
Albert Haynesworth
Jay Ratliff
Either of the Williams twins in Minnesota
...and if he wasn't such a dirtbag...Vince Wilfork

steelerchad
12-30-2009, 09:34 AM
Perhaps I am a lone shark here, but I would not re-sign him to a long term deal. I would franchise him for a year, but I would not re-sign him to a long term deal. That would be a huge mistake.

Pro-Bowl or not, we all know that the voting for that is flawed. We have been gashed for 150+ lately by two different teams and a lot of those runs are right up the middle. The Steelers cannot panick and sign a 32 year old lineman to big dollars long term. Part of our problem on defense is that we are aging and it is showing at key positions...D'line, CB, ILB, and Safety. If we give Casey big money, it will the equivilant to what we did with Gildon several years ago...giving big money to a player that could decline at any moment due to wear and tear and age.

We need to draft someone to replace Casey, and what we do know is that Hoke can step in for a year and play Casey's position. One of the biggest problems we have on the D'line is that they are all aging and we have no replacements for them other than Ziggy and maybe...maybe Sonny Harris. The rest...Smith, Eason, Keisel, Kirschke, and Hoke will all be 30+ next year. We need to look big picture here and not give long term money to Casey just because he has been a great Steeler.

I realize that some older players...Carter, Parker, Townsend, Kirschke...will probably be gone next year and will free up some money, but this team cannot afford to tie up the money free'd from the departing players into another older player. This team needs to add quality depth and get younger. Signing Casey will eat up some of those dollars that we need to do that.

We also cannot ignore that we have Woodley and Holmes coming up in the next year to re-sign. I would absolutely hate to commit big dollars to a lineman that has 1 or 2 years left and lose the younger core of our team.

I agree. Woodley, Holmes, Timmons need to be the priority. That's been the Steeler way and it's been successful. I like the franchise tag idea, but I always worry about the player being disgruntled and not giving 100% in that case. They didn't franchise Faneca for that reason. Faneca was pretty blatant in saying publicly the Steelers would regret it if they franchised him.

We need Limas Sweed to pan out next year so we don't need to think about replacing Ward. I hope he can come in next year and get his head straight. Mendy has shown his worth and I think we're set at RB for the near future. D line and CB need to be addressed early in next years draft. I would be in favor of almost any trade to move up and draft Suh, never happen but I can dream.

Dylan
12-30-2009, 10:15 AM
He is not the best defensive tackle in the league. I would take the following over Casey in a heartbeat:

Haloti Ngata
Jamal Williams
Albert Haynesworth
Jay Ratliff
Either of the Williams twins in Minnesota
...and if he wasn't such a dirtbag...Vince Wilfork

disagree with you big time on half of those...haynesworth would be horrible, good talent but can easily ruin a team....i like the williams but werent they just questioned for drug violations...i would like to have ngata and williams but not over casey

BlastFurnace
12-30-2009, 10:30 AM
disagree with you big time on half of those...haynesworth would be horrible, good talent but can easily ruin a team....i like the williams but werent they just questioned for drug violations...i would like to have ngata and williams but not over casey

You wouldn't take Ngata ove Casey...seriously? I would pay the plane fair both ways to have that happen.

I see Ratliff play nearly every week here in Dallas. He is much better than Casey is as well. Ratliff is one of the best young 3-4 NT's in the game.

Haynesworth is not the problem that you make him out to be.

The only problem child out of the bunch is Wilfork.

Gnutella
12-30-2009, 10:47 AM
How 'bout grabbing Terrence Cody in the draft? He could be our NT of the future.

fansince'76
12-30-2009, 10:54 AM
How 'bout grabbing Terrence Cody in the draft? He could be our NT of the future.

He'll probably be off the board by the time we pick from everything I've heard, unless his stock falls between now and April.

El-Gonzo Jackson
12-30-2009, 11:03 AM
Actually we get 2 franchise tags next year and the season is uncapped as of right now. Hampton should be to resign. And he deserves it.

Yes, we will be able to use the franchise tag and the transition tag if the current labour situation does not change. Since the Steelers dont really have a 320-340lb guy on the roster to play NT like Hampton.....I expect that he will get one of those tags.

I can also see Ryan Clark extended at a reasonable price based on his average play this season, Woodley and Holmes should get contracts too, while Townsend, Spaeth, Davis, Parker are let go and somebody probably outbids us for the services of Willie Colon.

El-Gonzo Jackson
12-30-2009, 11:06 AM
How 'bout grabbing Terrence Cody in the draft? He could be our NT of the future.

I was hoping that we would have taken Myron Pryor from Kentucky, or Antonio Dixon of Miami last year in the draft to work as a backup or possible transition NT if we lost Hampton this year.

I think even if Cody drops to our spot around #19 or 20, they might not bank on him to start as a rookie........but maybe the trade up and rely on a tandem of Hoke and Cody to do the job ???

truesteelerfan
12-30-2009, 11:10 AM
Casey WAS the best DT in the league a year or two ago....Now he admits he gets lazy in the offseason, not working out, etc. If we signed him long term, whats his motivation to change that? I like it that he fills a huge hole, but I'd rather he fill it with muscle than fat. We don't have someone waiting in the wings to take over immediately, so offer him a fair, maybe 2 year contract....We should be outbid for him, but hopefully he'll take winning over the big bucks someone like Cleveland or DC would offer. I still wouldn't want us to have to run against him, but even then, it would only be for first and 2nd downs.....Can't justify paying 4 down money to a 2 down player IMO

El-Gonzo Jackson
12-30-2009, 11:17 AM
Casey WAS the best DT in the league a year or two ago....Now he admits he gets lazy in the offseason, not working out, etc. If we signed him long term, whats his motivation to change that? I like it that he fills a huge hole, but I'd rather he fill it with muscle than fat. We don't have someone waiting in the wings to take over immediately, so offer him a fair, maybe 2 year contract....We should be outbid for him, but hopefully he'll take winning over the big bucks someone like Cleveland or DC would offer. I still wouldn't want us to have to run against him, but even then, it would only be for first and 2nd downs.....Can't justify paying 4 down money to a 2 down player IMO

The guy doesnt get lazy........he just tries to recover from the beating and constant double teaming that 5 months of NFL football will subject him to. If he wasnt hitting the weight room......he would not be one of the strongest guys in the NFL every year at the bench press competition at the skills competitions.

Counting Casey Hampton as being washed up at this point is like saying that Sam Adams career was over when he was 31 years old. :doh:

revefsreleets
12-30-2009, 11:48 AM
Actually, I believe we have one franchise tag AND two transitional tags. We have several pressing needs, and we'll use all of them (plus other tools in the arsenal) I think to keep Santo, Woodley, Hampton and Clark.

Dino 6 Rings
12-30-2009, 11:53 AM
Holmes, Clark and Woodley are Must Signs in my opinion.

revefsreleets
12-30-2009, 11:58 AM
The Eagles are the best at doing this....they'll target a few key positions in the draft next year anticipating which of these expensive FA's they can keep, cannot keep, and can only hold for one more year. Steelers are VERY adept at this as well. I expect they'll draft for the guys they know they can't keep past 2010...this may have actually started last year for one or two of the key players if they WEREN'T planning on using all their franchise tags this offseason.

markymarc
12-30-2009, 02:05 PM
They’ve got enough defensive Casey Hamptonholes without having to worry about one at nose tackle.

This is the statement that stands out to me. We have other issues to worry about defense and finding a nose tackle should not be one of them. I would like to see them franchise Casey. Worry about finding his replacement after the 2010 season.

lamberts-lost-tooth
12-30-2009, 02:17 PM
This is the statement that stands out to me. We have other issues to worry about defense and finding a nose tackle should not be one of them. I would like to see them franchise Casey. Worry about finding his replacement after the 2010 season.

But that ignores two facts:

1) We would be signing an EXCELLENT player...but a player who's skills will do nothing but decline due to his being on the wrong side of 30.
2) Casey knows this will be his last contract and he is going to be asking for the "big money".

Casey can make bigger money elsewhere, for a team that sees him as the final ingredient to make a push deep into the playoffs. Personally I would hope that the Steelers are gracious(and wise) enough not to franchise him. If we do franchise him, he will cost us a boatload of money, and it takes away from his ability to get a long term contract the following year due to his being one year older. He deserves better than that from us.

Let Casey get his money elsewhere...pick up wither Terrance Cody or Dan Williams in the 1st round...and rotate the rookie with Hoke until he is ready to become our NT of the future.

Steeldude
12-30-2009, 02:31 PM
hampton is a need based on lack of depth.

there has been no drop-off when hoke has started in hampton's place. in fact, when hampton went down for most the season a few years back the steelers did better with hoke in. IMO, hampton is overrated.

whoever said they wouldn't take ngata over hampton, is crazy :smile:

markymarc
12-30-2009, 03:01 PM
But that ignores two facts:

1) We would be signing an EXCELLENT player...but a player who's skills will do nothing but decline due to his being on the wrong side of 30.
2) Casey knows this will be his last contract and he is going to be asking for the "big money".

Casey can make bigger money elsewhere, for a team that sees him as the final ingredient to make a push deep into the playoffs. Personally I would hope that the Steelers are gracious(and wise) enough not to franchise him. If we do franchise him, he will cost us a boatload of money, and it takes away from his ability to get a long term contract the following year due to his being one year older. He deserves better than that from us.

Let Casey get his money elsewhere...pick up wither Terrance Cody or Dan Williams in the 1st round...and rotate the rookie with Hoke until he is ready to become our NT of the future.

But why would you sign him to a long term contract if like you stated his skills will be declining because of being on the wrong side of 30? I definitely don't think Terrance Cody will last to our pick and who knows with Dan Williams. And if it came down to it I feel Chris Hoke would be good enough to start at NT if Hampton left.

Dylan
12-30-2009, 03:11 PM
Yes, we will be able to use the franchise tag and the transition tag if the current labour situation does not change. Since the Steelers dont really have a 320-340lb guy on the roster to play NT like Hampton.....I expect that he will get one of those tags.

I can also see Ryan Clark extended at a reasonable price based on his average play this season, Woodley and Holmes should get contracts too, while Townsend, Spaeth, Davis, Parker are let go and somebody probably outbids us for the services of Willie Colon.

exactly...hampton is well deserved of the amount of money he gets...also why are we complaing about hampton being lazy/out of shape...and then wanting terrance cody, doesnt make any sense....i wouldnt mind cody but i wouldnt take him over hampton

lamberts-lost-tooth
12-30-2009, 03:25 PM
But why would you sign him to a long term contract if like you stated his skills will be declining because of being on the wrong side of 30? I definitely don't think Terrance Cody will last to our pick and who knows with Dan Williams. And if it came down to it I feel Chris Hoke would be good enough to start at NT if Hampton left.

Casey is going to WANT a long term contract. He will be 33 ar the beginning of next years season. At his age this could very well be the last contract he will sign. That in itself is what causes the problem. Yes, we can franchise him, but like I said, I hope the organization respects him enough not to take away from his ability to get that contract by making him wait a year and try to get a long term contract from someone at the age of 34.

I think Williams will actually go before Cody....and youre statement that Hoke is good enough to start is exactly the point that I am trying to make about not selling the farm to Hampton, but rather get a blue chip NT and use Hoke as your insurance until he is ready to start.

lamberts-lost-tooth
12-30-2009, 03:29 PM
exactly...hampton is well deserved of the amount of money he gets...also why are we complaing about hampton being lazy/out of shape...and then wanting terrance cody, doesnt make any sense....i wouldnt mind cody but i wouldnt take him over hampton

I would agree if we were just talking about ability in a short term situation. But we are also having to consider
1) Ability vs Worth
2) Age vs Potential.

Casey is exceptional, but you cant sell the farm for a player that probably has one or two good years left. If you are going to spend the money...look what you are going to get for that money by the end of a contract. 4 years down the road do you want Cody or Hampton at NT?

BlastFurnace
12-30-2009, 04:28 PM
hampton is a need based on lack of depth.

there has been no drop-off when hoke has started in hampton's place. in fact, when hampton went down for most the season a few years back the steelers did better with hoke in. IMO, hampton is overrated.

whoever said they wouldn't take ngata over hampton, is crazy :smile:

I agree with you. I think Hampton has been a good Steeler, but I also believe that our fan base overrates him quite a bit.

I also agree with your point about Hoke. There was no dropoff whatsoever when Hoke filled in. Even earlier this year against Tennessee, even the broadcasters took notice that Hoke had a much easier time against Kevin Mawae than Hampton did.

T.Richardson
12-30-2009, 07:32 PM
disagree with you big time on half of those...haynesworth would be horrible, good talent but can easily ruin a team....i like the williams but werent they just questioned for drug violations...i would like to have ngata and williams but not over casey

I would take Ngata, and Williams over Hampton any day.

Psyychoward86
12-30-2009, 07:56 PM
for the last time.......Ziggy Hood is not our designated future NT.......

Psyychoward86
12-30-2009, 07:57 PM
obviously people take Hampton for granted just because he comes off the field on passing downs. The man is a 5 time pro-bowler. We've ranked #1 against the run 3 times while he's been here, 4 times if we do it again this season.

zulater
12-30-2009, 08:46 PM
Perhaps I am a lone shark here, but I would not re-sign him to a long term deal. I would franchise him for a year, but I would not re-sign him to a long term deal. That would be a huge mistake.

Pro-Bowl or not, we all know that the voting for that is flawed. We have been gashed for 150+ lately by two different teams and a lot of those runs are right up the middle. The Steelers cannot panick and sign a 32 year old lineman to big dollars long term. Part of our problem on defense is that we are aging and it is showing at key positions...D'line, CB, ILB, and Safety. If we give Casey big money, it will the equivilant to what we did with Gildon several years ago...giving big money to a player that could decline at any moment due to wear and tear and age.

We need to draft someone to replace Casey, and what we do know is that Hoke can step in for a year and play Casey's position. One of the biggest problems we have on the D'line is that they are all aging and we have no replacements for them other than Ziggy and maybe...maybe Sonny Harris. The rest...Smith, Eason, Keisel, Kirschke, and Hoke will all be 30+ next year. We need to look big picture here and not give long term money to Casey just because he has been a great Steeler.

I realize that some older players...Carter, Parker, Townsend, Kirschke...will probably be gone next year and will free up some money, but this team cannot afford to tie up the money free'd from the departing players into another older player. This team needs to add quality depth and get younger. Signing Casey will eat up some of those dollars that we need to do that.

We also cannot ignore that we have Woodley and Holmes coming up in the next year to re-sign. I would absolutely hate to commit big dollars to a lineman that has 1 or 2 years left and lose the younger core of our team.

That's the approach I'd like to see them take too.

markymarc
12-31-2009, 01:07 PM
I think Williams will actually go before Cody....and youre statement that Hoke is good enough to start is exactly the point that I am trying to make about not selling the farm to Hampton, but rather get a blue chip NT and use Hoke as your insurance until he is ready to start.

I see your point, but the problem is if we do happen to not franchise or sign Hampton to a new contract then we are relying on Chris Hoke and do not know for sure if we can land Dan Williams or Terrance Cody in the draft. I understand what you are saying about giving a new contract to Casey Hampton out of respect, but personally I don't see that happening.

Do you think there are any other NT prospects we could grab later in the draft if Williams or Cody get picked prior to us?

Steelers>NFL
12-31-2009, 01:39 PM
I say sign him to 3 year contract. No back breaking deal. Give him far deal.
We definately need him until some young player is drafted and groomed to takeover.
Hoke is not no spring chicken either. So we can not rely on him fulltime.

SH-Rock
12-31-2009, 01:52 PM
Now how many players need a new contract at the end of the season?

iloveben7
01-01-2010, 12:42 AM
I'm a huge fan of Casey and I hope we keep him, but with all the other players we have to decide on I'm not too sure :(

steeltheone
01-01-2010, 11:35 AM
Somebodys gotta go Farrior, keisel, smith, Hampton ... Keisel just signed so cut Smith and Farrior. We are just to old up front. 9 and 7 teams dont carry age heavy people.

BlastFurnace
01-01-2010, 11:41 AM
Somebodys gotta go Farrior, keisel, smith, Hampton ... Keisel just signed so cut Smith and Farrior. We are just to old up front. 9 and 7 teams dont carry age heavy people.

Aaron Smith may be approaching 35, but he's still a pretty good DE in our scheme. No way does he get cut. Farrior isn't getting cut either. He's not what he used to be, but they won't cut the captain of the defense when there is no-one to replace him.

The one's that will go on defense will be Hampton, Carter, Townsend, Eason, and maybe Clark.

BlastFurnace
01-01-2010, 12:44 PM
He's becoming injury prone, deadweight and Farrior should be Cut simple solution for replacing him is switching to a 4-3 front . Timmons can go sideline to sideline. Pick up Dan Williams outta TEN with Casey Kiesel and ZIGGY!

If you want to cut our injury prone players, then why don't you start with Troy and Ben? See how absurd that is. Aaron has had two injuries...and freak one's at that. Besides, you won't find one Steelers coach that would sign off on cutting Aaron. It's not going to happen.

We aren't going to a 4-3. We don't have the personell for it.

BlastFurnace
01-01-2010, 02:54 PM
Never said cut Smith. I would take Smith over Hampton and Kiesel in a 3-4, hes been placed on IR 2 of the past 3 seasons.. just sayin.

You said someone's gotta go and you mentioned Smith and Farrior and you referred to Smith as deadweight. What exactly did you mean if you didn't mean "cut" and what did you mean by "deadweight"? Bottom line, Smith's not going anywhere.

steeltheone
01-01-2010, 04:53 PM
Bottom line our run defense has been just as good or better without Smith. Farrior is now average Just as Porter was/is average. Need to cut ties.I like all these guys. But to keep at the top you gotta replace with younger. Now we are stuck with a bunch of 33 year olds in their declinng years, You cant keep those type players when you are 8 and 7

tyler289
01-01-2010, 06:39 PM
Hampton's best days are behind him, but he's clearly a valuable aspect of our run defense and worth bringing back.

That said, we need to seriously look at drafting his replacement.

lamberts-lost-tooth
01-02-2010, 09:41 AM
I see your point, but the problem is if we do happen to not franchise or sign Hampton to a new contract then we are relying on Chris Hoke and do not know for sure if we can land Dan Williams or Terrance Cody in the draft. I understand what you are saying about giving a new contract to Casey Hampton out of respect, but personally I don't see that happening.

Do you think there are any other NT prospects we could grab later in the draft if Williams or Cody get picked prior to us?

Perhaps Torrell Troup from Central Florida. He is 6'3 314 lbs....and my 3rd favorite NT in this draft as of now.

Solid if not spectacular numbers for the past two years....but he is a space eater and will demand two O-lineman to block him. Might be a 4th rounder.

markymarc
01-02-2010, 11:34 AM
Perhaps Torrell Troup from Central Florida. He is 6'3 314 lbs....and my 3rd favorite NT in this draft as of now.

Solid if not spectacular numbers for the past two years....but he is a space eater and will demand two O-lineman to block him. Might be a 4th rounder.

Thanks for providing this information. At least we would have an option if they can't pick up Williams or Cody and sounds like we could get Troup later.

lamberts-lost-tooth
01-02-2010, 11:41 AM
Thanks for providing this information. At least we would have an option if they can't pick up Williams or Cody and sounds like we could get Troup later.

No problem.

I REALLY like Dan Williams and think of all the NT's in this draft...he is the one that could actually start immediately.

That being said I think you may be on top something in that we might wait until later to try and find a NT. I am beginning to think that we go CB in the first.

El-Gonzo Jackson
01-02-2010, 06:17 PM
No problem.

I REALLY like Dan Williams and think of all the NT's in this draft...he is the one that could actually start immediately.

That being said I think you may be on top something in that we might wait until later to try and find a NT. I am beginning to think that we go CB in the first.

I dont know about Williams. He has all the size, strength and positive film, but the knock is that he can be inconsistent. He looked inconsistent against Va Tech in the bowl game......I taped it and rewatched him get pushed downfield several times by the double team.

I expect a guy to get stalemated at the LOS, but not put backwards on skates like I saw him against VT. As much as I hate linemen with weight issues.....Cody never has that happen to him. I think Suh, McCoy, Cody are the class of the interior linemen this year. Williams might need a year or 2 before ready.

lamberts-lost-tooth
01-02-2010, 06:27 PM
I dont know about Williams. He has all the size, strength and positive film, but the knock is that he can be inconsistent. He looked inconsistent against Va Tech in the bowl game......I taped it and rewatched him get pushed downfield several times by the double team.

I expect a guy to get stalemated at the LOS, but not put backwards on skates like I saw him against VT. As much as I hate linemen with weight issues.....Cody never has that happen to him. I think Suh, McCoy, Cody are the class of the interior linemen this year. Williams might need a year or 2 before ready.

I agree that Suh and Cody are elite...they will both go in the top 5 (with Suh possibly going #1 overall)

I gotta say that from what I have seen of Williams...I think he has a better motor than Cody and think there is a chance that he will go ahead of Cody due to character and work ethic.

Time will tell, of course. But I have to say that I wouldnt be dissapointed in drafting either of them.

mesaSteeler
01-03-2010, 12:57 AM
Could this be the end of the line for Hampton?
http://www.timesonline.com/sports/sports_details/article/1501/2010/january/02/could-this-be-the-end-of-the-line-for-hampton.html
By: Mike Bires
Beaver County Times


Today’s game in Miami could be the last for the 2009 Steelers. It could also be the last in a Pittsburgh uniform for Casey Hampton.

Hampton isn’t the only Steeler who could be gone by the time training camp starts next summer. Willie Parker, Willie Colon, Ryan Clark, Deshea Townsend and Jeff Reed are also in the last year of their contracts. They don’t know where they’ll be next year.

Neither does Hampton, who’s been one of the truly great Steelers since they selected him in the first round of the 2001 draft.

He’s been the NFL’s most dominant nose tackle of the last decade.

Hampton has been so good at what he does that he’s one of only three current Steelers named to the franchise’s all-time team.

“Casey and I came into this league at the same time,” backup nose tackle Chris Hoke said. “It’s been an honor to have played with Casey and to have been his friend all these years. You know, I’m not sure if people give him the credit he really deserves.”

Certainly, AFC players and coaches thought enough of Hampton that they named him to this year’s Pro Bowl game. It’ll be his fifth appearance in the all-star game. To put that in perspective, consider that only three Steeler defensive linemen have gone more often: Joe Greene (10), Ernie Stautner (nine) and L.C. Greenwood (six).

And besides his performance on the field, Hampton has been one of the most popular Steelers. He’s got a hilarious sense of humor. He’s easily one of the most well-liked guys in the locker room.

“He’s been a heck of a teammate and he’ll always be a good friend,” tackle Max Starks said. “He’s got a great personality. He’s a great human being.”

If the Steelers don’t re-sign Hampton before March, he’ll shop his wares on the open market. Even though he’ll be 33 next year, Hampton figures to fetch a lucrative contract somewhere as an unrestricted free agent.
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Then again, maybe the Steelers will retain him by putting a franchise tag on him. Franchise players are kept for a year and paid the average of the top five salaries at that player’s position. This year, the going price for a franchised defensive tackle was $6.058 million.

The other day before practice, Hampton refused to talk about contractual matters.

“I ain’t talking about that,” he said. “I ain’t talking about me leaving or me being here until the time is right.”

Hampton did say that his outstanding performance this season could not have come at a better time.

“I mean, I’m not going to sit here and lie and say it doesn’t mean anything,” said Hampton, who’s being paid a base salary of $3.075 million this season. “Everything is working itself out and everything will work itself out. It’s always a good deal when you’re trying to get a contract and you play well and get this kind of (Pro Bowl) honor.

“Everyone in this locker room and everyone upstairs (in the front office) knows what I’m capable of doing. I’ve never been worried about that.”

Hampton would prefer to remain a Steeler for the rest of his career. But he also understands the business side of football. He knows he could be playing elsewhere next year.

The Steelers have lost their share of free agents over the years. They don’t seem to mind. They just plug the holes through the draft or by signing mid-level free agents, and move on.

But there’s a strong feeling among current players that Hampton deserves to stay. They say he should be justly rewarded for what he’s done in the past and what he can do in the future.