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Galax Steeler
01-02-2010, 06:31 AM
The reigning NFL Defensive Player of the Year James Harrison was assured by officials during the preseason that if he was held during a game that a penalty flag would be thrown.

Call him naive, but Harrison believed what the officials were telling him ... until the holds kept coming and few flags followed.

So to combat that, Harrison decided to take matters into his own hands - or at least that's what Cleveland tackle Joe Thomas believes.

After the Steelers lost to the Browns a few weeks ago, Thomas said Harrison is getting a reputation for flopping when the outside linebacker thinks he is being held.

"It's something Harrison has been doing," Thomas told The Cleveland Plain Dealer. "It seems like he didn't do it last year. Now, he's kind of perfected it. I don't know if he has a reputation yet, but I know after this year he will."

The only two holding calls against Thomas this year were against Harrison.

"Basically, as you push him by, he'll just throw his arms up in the air and his feet and try to make it look like you threw him down," Thomas said.

Harrison did not deny Thomas' allegation but instead explained his mindset.

"Tell Joe he can say whatever he wants to say, if you hold me, I will do whatever I can to get that call," Harrison said Wednesday, making his first public comment on the issue.

Harrison said that the lack of holding calls are getting worse compared to a year ago.

"I bet I can go to the league office, and you can (find) at least three or four holds a game (on film) over the course of a season," Harrison said. "What's that 50-something holds a year that they didn't call?

"What else you want me to do? I am having guys grabbing me around my neck and slamming me to the ground, and they are not called. They said they were going to enforce that rule."

Defensive end Brett Keisel, who plays on the same side of the Steelers defense as Harrison, doesn't agree with Thomas' assessment.

"(Harrison) doesn't flop," Keisel said. "He gets held every play. He may get one call a game. Joe is the worst holder in the league, so I don't know what he is talking about."

Whether it is him getting held or seeing more double-teams, Harrison's numbers have evaporated over the past month.

Through the first 10 games, Harrison had 10 sacks and 18 hurries. Since them, he has no sacks and only four hurries.

"He is getting triple-teamed and chipped and things like that," Keisel said. "He is a great player. That is why offenses do what they do."

Harrison, who set a franchise record with 16 sacks in 2008, isn't worried about his decreased stats.

"It is more than a compliment than anything," Harrison said. "They feel like they need two or three guys to block me. If you do that, then they are going to leave somebody else on the back end, and that's (fellow outside linebacker LaMarr) Woodley, and he has done a great job."

Woodley has 6.5 sacks over the past five games and has taken the team lead in the category away from Harrison. Woodley has 91/2 of his 111/2 sacks over the past seven games and has at least a half sack in each of those games.

"Other people have to step up, and that has been Woodley," Keisel said.

Woodley, meanwhile, came to Harrison's defense on the flopping allegation.

"Maybe when they hold him, it isn't a flop," he said. "Maybe they are holding on to him and pulling him down."

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_660441.html?feed=9

Milkman
01-02-2010, 07:01 AM
So much for the NFL and their promises...:doh:

RoethlisBURGHer
01-02-2010, 07:38 AM
Maybe if offensive players wouldn't hold Harrison, he wouldn't go to the ground.

Maybe of the refs would call AT LEAST the OBVIOUS holds on Harrison he would be held a little bit less.

James Harrison reminds me of a young Joe Greene is the aspect that if you don't hold him, he's getting to the quarterback more times than not.

ljk2442
01-02-2010, 09:26 AM
Harrison looks like he is being held everytime he rushes because he is barely six feet tall and he bull rushes guys that are 6'5 on average... He needs a few sacks in Miami to assure my opinion of his dominance....

CargoJon
01-02-2010, 09:27 AM
If James Harrison were Tom Brady, the minute the OT so much as sneezed in his direction the field would be raining with yellow fabric.

steeltheone
01-02-2010, 09:58 AM
Maybe if offensive players wouldn't hold Harrison, he wouldn't go to the ground.

Maybe of the refs would call AT LEAST the OBVIOUS holds on Harrison he would be held a little bit less.

James Harrison reminds me of a young Joe Greene is the aspect that if you don't hold him, he's getting to the quarterback more times than not.

Harrison is 31 years old. Joe was almost retired by then. I get your point though. Harrison has much less wear and tear.

markymarc
01-02-2010, 11:37 AM
I realize the officials could call holding almost every single play, but damn this is beyond ridiculous what James Harrison goes through every game.

toughsticks87
01-02-2010, 01:59 PM
I'm not making excuses for what's happened this year, but it is really absurd how much that man gets held.

thegreat 58
01-02-2010, 02:13 PM
Joe Thomas is a punk.

How he keeps getting elected to the Pro Bowl roseter amazes me. Last season the browns had three starting QB's get injured during the season, that right there should automatically disqualify ANY offensive line from going to the Pro Bowl. Thise season the browns hardly score until some meaningless games at the end of the season and he goes again? Someone must really like him.

iloveben7
01-02-2010, 04:01 PM
is there ever a series without James Harrison getting held??

Steeldude
01-02-2010, 04:42 PM
aren't there 3 other threads on this issue already

Larry
01-02-2010, 06:30 PM
Hilarious. This forum oozes hypocrisy.

Preacher
01-02-2010, 06:33 PM
Hilarious. This forum oozes hypocrisy.

:noidea:

You're welcomed to leave if you would like.

steel striker
01-02-2010, 07:27 PM
What has Joe thomas done? NOTHING Sounds like to me that Thomas is a whiney little bioch.

Larry
01-02-2010, 11:33 PM
:noidea:

You're welcomed to leave if you would like.

I know you agree with me, I've seen you "preach" the same. If this was a Ravens thread everyone here would be talking about how they're a bunch of whiners.

Borski
01-03-2010, 12:13 AM
is there ever a series without James Harrison getting held??

is there ever a play without James Harrison getting held?

GodfatherofSoul
01-03-2010, 01:42 AM
The NFL is starting to stink like the NBA. I stopped watching pro basketball after the biased officiating got so bad. Now, I'm starting to see the same things going on in pro football. Calls that look deliberately set up to affect outcomes, favoritism for some and hatred for other players, blatantly obvious calls under replay that are still not corrected, etc. The Harrison no-holding calls are epically terrible.

CanadianSteel
01-03-2010, 09:39 AM
The Steelers should get a film done from each game highlighting all the holds om Harrison this year.
His 10 sacks would be like 25 if not for all the holds...