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zulater
01-10-2010, 06:55 PM
If you're watching the playoffs this weekend and you've seen all the missed field goals you'll understand why it's essential for the Steelers to tag Jeff Reed.

fansince'76
01-10-2010, 06:56 PM
But he can't kick it through the back of the EZ every time and can't tackle.... :blah:

X-Terminator
01-10-2010, 06:57 PM
Nah, The Nation has spoken. He sucks, let him walk.

zulater
01-10-2010, 07:02 PM
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/reedxjef01/gamelog/#stats_playoffs

Reed hasn't missed a playoff fg since 2002.

stillers4me
01-10-2010, 07:04 PM
tag'em.

supa_fly_steeler
01-10-2010, 07:11 PM
kick off one of the fullbacks, keep reed, sign a kickoff specialist.

AlleghanyAdams87
01-10-2010, 07:13 PM
87 percent this year and only missed 4...2 of them being over 50..Sign a kickoff specialist. If Limas Sweed and William Gay can have roster spots, along with a return specialist, why not have a kick specialist. Losing Reed would be a big mistake

Hotrodder07
01-10-2010, 07:15 PM
I never wanted to get rid of Reed. He's usually automatic. A clutch kicker is the difference in so many games, especially for the Steelers. Signing him is a must!

MACH1
01-10-2010, 07:17 PM
I hope we keep him around.

Nadroj 20
01-10-2010, 07:19 PM
I want to see him on the team, too. Watching Graham, and Rackers miss some makeable FG this weeked really makes you apprecitate Reed.

RoethlisBURGHer
01-10-2010, 07:20 PM
I hope we keep him and sign a kickoff specialist.

zulater
01-10-2010, 07:21 PM
I want to see him on the team, too. Watching Graham, and Rackers miss some makeable FG this weeked really makes you apprecitate Reed.

Pats kicker missed an easy one too didn't he?

Nadroj 20
01-10-2010, 07:23 PM
Pats kicker missed an easy one too didn't he?

Im not sure i think he might have, i was just referring to the kick rackers should have made to win the game, reed def would have been more clutch and nailed it.

zulater
01-10-2010, 07:23 PM
The great thing is putting a franchise tag on a kicker isn't really crippling financially speaking.

zulater
01-10-2010, 07:24 PM
Im not sure i think he might have, i was just referring to the kick rackers should have made to win the game, reed def would have been more clutch and nailed it.

Yeah I know. I'm just saying add him to the list. :hatsoff:

Vincent
01-10-2010, 07:39 PM
Here's a thought.

The idea that we might not be good at running because we don't practice run blocking was posited in another thread. I, of course objected, because I would never entertain such heretic nonsense.

But it gave me an idea. Now, we've all seen Skippy kick into the end zone. He has the leg to do it. The question would be consistency. Is it possible to actually practice that? You know, so you can do it consistently in, like, games? :noidea: Maybe our new ST coach could give that some work.

And if we were to resign Skippy, would it be too much to ask that he practice kicking deep? I mean, thats all he does - kick.

Neil-Still-Rules-14
01-10-2010, 09:06 PM
It's not practicing kicking deep- he just doesn't have it in him anymore. Similar to Gary Anderson. Anderson was one of the best and most accurate kickers in the league until the day he retired- but there's a point when he couldn't kick off anymore.

zulater
01-10-2010, 09:16 PM
It's not practicing kicking deep- he just doesn't have it in him anymore. Similar to Gary Anderson. Anderson was one of the best and most accurate kickers in the league until the day he retired- but there's a point when he couldn't kick off anymore.

Part of it was design. The Steelers were scared to kick the ball deep because their cover guys were awful. Once they resigned Anthony Madison the coverage got better and they got a little braver with Jeff.

mulldog24
01-10-2010, 09:20 PM
I say we sign him or tag him!! What would we do without his wild hair!!!!:toofunny::rofl::chuckle:

steelerdude15
01-10-2010, 09:40 PM
Reed needs to stay, he's one of the most accurate kickers in the league today. He might need a lesson from Troy or James to tackle:chuckle:

Bluedust
01-10-2010, 09:45 PM
Yeah what the hell is up with the kickers this season..

steelpride12
01-10-2010, 09:51 PM
It's not the fact that he can't kick through the end zone or the bull crap about a kicker who can't tackle that he may leave next season, it's the money he is asking for; too much

madtowndrunkard
01-10-2010, 10:54 PM
If you're watching the playoffs this weekend and you've seen all the missed field goals you'll understand why it's essential for the Steelers to tag Jeff Reed.

I don't want to get rid of Jeff Reed, but I do want to see if there are any potential upgrades out there. He's a nice kicker but he's got issues. There are better kickers out there...and we may potentially find one in the draft? I don't know what FA's are out there?

If there is not a clear up grade to Reed then I would not be upset if we kept him.

Merchant
01-10-2010, 11:21 PM
Yeah what the hell is up with the kickers this season..

That's what I'm saying. I've never seen so many kickers miss so many important kicks. After the Chicago game I wanted to kill Reed but all in all he's been extremely clutch over the years and we need him back. He needs to work on his kickoffs though.

frankvctr
01-11-2010, 12:14 AM
Yes Steelers Front Office wants to resign Reed. But because of those missed field goals this weekend, Jeff Reed's stock just went through the roof, making it harder for Steelers to resign him. Knowing that Reed won't take less to stay with Steelers, he'll walk.

ricksteelers55
01-11-2010, 12:35 AM
we could tag him til the end of time

lionslicer
01-11-2010, 02:54 AM
He's money from inside the 50. He's only missed like 3 fieldgoals this year, and they were all at the begining of the season. I know the Falcons used to have a money inside the 50 kicker, then they got the punter for those big 55+ yard kicks. Maybe the Steelers might do that since they brought up that first year kicker to the offseason roster.

Galax Steeler
01-11-2010, 03:40 AM
I have to say Reed is mister clutch, I know he missed some early in the year but I would put him on the line against anyone when it comes to a clutch field goal.

HometownGal
01-11-2010, 07:42 AM
Find a way to keep Skippy - tag him, kidnap him until TC - whatever it takes. :chuckle: 95% of the time, the guy is money in the bank and there isn't a kicker out there who I would want over Reed. :thumbsup:

steelerchad
01-11-2010, 07:52 AM
I'm worried about tagging him. It seems like players don't like the tag. If a player is disgruntled, maybe they don't perform as well. Especially at a spot like kicker, where one little slip up can make a kick sail wide. (maybe a mistake, maybe on purpose). Who knows, Reed's head isn't exactly on straight to begin with. I say sign him or let him walk, but don't tag him.

CargoJon
01-11-2010, 08:04 AM
Tell Reed if he leaves, we're going to sick a Sheetz hand-drier on him....lol

Wonder if Sepulvida and his supposed big leg could do kickoffs?

AllD
01-11-2010, 03:41 PM
It is more important to make FGs than it is to kick it into the EZ on KOs just ask the bungholes.

steelreserve
01-11-2010, 04:30 PM
Part of it was design. The Steelers were scared to kick the ball deep because their cover guys were awful. Once they resigned Anthony Madison the coverage got better and they got a little braver with Jeff.

Yeah -- he started kicking it all the way to the 10. :rofl:

El-Gonzo Jackson
01-11-2010, 05:52 PM
I say offer him $1.9mil and say take it or leave with Matt Spaeth.

zulater
01-11-2010, 07:40 PM
Tell Reed if he leaves, we're going to sick a Sheetz hand-drier on him....lol

Wonder if Sepulvida and his supposed big leg could do kickoffs?

If he could do any better than Jeff I can't imagine how they wouldn't have figured that out by now and have him doing it already? :noidea:

lionslicer
01-12-2010, 12:30 AM
If he could do any better than Jeff I can't imagine how they wouldn't have figured that out by now and have him doing it already? :noidea:

More than likely they tried Sepulvida and he had trouble kicking the ball like that. A lot of punters can't do it, or do it accuratly, it takes more skill than people think. I'm a kicker myself, and kicking a field goal is a lot more easier than kicking the ball of that stupid Tee.

steelwalls
01-12-2010, 12:48 AM
The guy makes feild goals, to me thats a helluva lot more important than kicking off out of the back of the endzone. Considering all the close games we're in, and traditionaly our stadium is not the easiest to kick feild goals in, we need to keep him.

pancake
01-12-2010, 03:28 AM
FO needs to sign him...

MasterOfPuppets
01-12-2010, 04:32 AM
The guy makes feild goals, to me thats a helluva lot more important than kicking off out of the back of the endzone. Considering all the close games we're in, and traditionaly our stadium is not the easiest to kick feild goals in, we need to keep him.
do you think maybe the reason reed may be better at kicking in pittsburgh is because THATS WHERE HE PRACTICES ??? :doh:
there's a reason peter check is on speed dial... reed turned down thier offer..he may, or may not get another..:popcorn:

supa_fly_steeler
01-12-2010, 05:24 AM
Find a way to keep Skippy - tag him, kidnap him until TC - whatever it takes. :chuckle: 95% of the time, the guy is money in the bank and there isn't a kicker out there who I would want over Reed. :thumbsup:

shayne graham :D

zulater
01-12-2010, 05:47 AM
do you think maybe the reason reed may be better at kicking in pittsburgh is because THATS WHERE HE PRACTICES ??? :doh:
there's a reason peter check is on speed dial... reed turned down thier offer..he may, or may not get another..:popcorn:

It didn't help Kris Brown practicing in Pittsburgh. And 3 kickers that missed what should be considered makable field goals this week- end were in their home field.

Reed is one of the best fg kickers in the league inside 50 yards. When you consider venue, maybe the best. Franchising a kicker isn't cost prohibitive. If you think you're capable of making a legitimate Super Bowl run it's essential that you have a reliable field goal kicker.

zulater
01-17-2010, 06:34 PM
Think the Chargers might be in the market for a kicker with a proven track record in the playoffs?

shovelnose
01-17-2010, 06:35 PM
Ok so after watching the field goal attempts in the playoffs this year, I am really convinced we need to sign Reed even if his kick-offs are less than stellar! That is all. Thoughts?

shovelnose
01-17-2010, 06:37 PM
Sorry Mods. This thread is covered all ready! Feel free to delete.

zulater
01-17-2010, 06:43 PM
Sorry Mods. This thread is covered all ready! Feel free to delete.

I agree. Sign him please! :thumbsup:

Nadroj 20
01-17-2010, 06:51 PM
Think the Chargers might be in the market for a kicker with a proven track record in the playoffs?

Lol they might want to look into it :chuckle:

xbroughneck
01-17-2010, 07:05 PM
Extend Reed TOMORROW dang it.

43Hitman
01-17-2010, 07:11 PM
Extend Reed TOMORROW dang it.

I agree, but Reed is probably calling the Chargers as we speak.

zulater
01-17-2010, 07:15 PM
I agree, but Reed is probably calling the Chargers as we speak.

Tag him and bag him. :helmet:

43Hitman
01-17-2010, 07:18 PM
Tag him and bag him. :helmet:

I agree!

Vincent
01-17-2010, 07:19 PM
We could get Keating cheap. :chuckle:

Kittyfish
01-17-2010, 07:29 PM
I never wanted Reed to go away, but I want him to stay more than ever now. I don't recall ever seeing so many missed field goals in my life! It got to be more surprising when the kicks were good than when they were missed. If we discount the Bears game, Reed's done real well for us over the years. A good kicker is important - as I've said elsewhere, how many SBs would the Pats* have won without their FG kicker?

steelreserve
01-17-2010, 08:23 PM
I don't really see how other kickers missing FGs in the playoffs affects Reed. Most of these guys had reputations just as good and hardly ever missed either. All it does is prove that even the "elite" kickers miss sometimes. That INCLUDES Reed -- or did we forget the Chicago game?

Seems like it basically happens at random and we're lucky that in our case, it didn't happen in a situation where one field goal could change the outcome of the entire season.



... oh, wait.

steelreserve
01-17-2010, 08:25 PM
Only if we also give him some steroids.

zulater
01-17-2010, 09:44 PM
I don't really see how other kickers missing FGs in the playoffs affects Reed. Most of these guys had reputations just as good and hardly ever missed either. All it does is prove that even the "elite" kickers miss sometimes. That INCLUDES Reed -- or did we forget the Chicago game?

Seems like it basically happens at random and we're lucky that in our case, it didn't happen in a situation where one field goal could change the outcome of the entire season.



... oh, wait.

Reed hasn't missed a playoff fg attempt since 2002. He's made all sort of game winners in his Steelers career. He didn't miss a kick inside 50 yards after the second game of this season. And you want to run him out of town because of one bad day in Chicago?

SH-Rock
01-17-2010, 10:26 PM
after seeing nate kaeding, keep jeff reed

El-Gonzo Jackson
01-18-2010, 12:24 AM
Anybody see how bad Neil Rackers looks in Arizona??? I bet Whiz goes after Reed in free agency and pays him a lot to leave the Burgh.

Time to spend a 4th round compensatory draft pick on a kicker I think.

steelreserve
01-18-2010, 01:39 AM
Reed hasn't missed a playoff fg attempt since 2002. He's made all sort of game winners in his Steelers career. He didn't miss a kick inside 50 yards after the second game of this season. And you want to run him out of town because of one bad day in Chicago?

Wow. Where did I say anything about running him out of town? All I said is Reed is like any other kicker. He makes 80-something percent and misses the other 15-something. We've been pretty damn fortunate about him not missing in the playoffs, but thinking he's Invincible Superman is just delusional.

Galax Steeler
01-18-2010, 03:30 AM
Anybody see how bad Neil Rackers looks in Arizona??? I bet Whiz goes after Reed in free agency and pays him a lot to leave the Burgh.

Time to spend a 4th round compensatory draft pick on a kicker I think.

I haven't thought about that but you could be right seems like he picks up all of the Steelers. As good of a kicker as Reed is he would probably be willing to pay him a pretty penny to come out west.

zulater
01-18-2010, 06:02 AM
Wow. Where did I say anything about running him out of town? All I said is Reed is like any other kicker. He makes 80-something percent and misses the other 15-something. We've been pretty damn fortunate about him not missing in the playoffs, but thinking he's Invincible Superman is just delusional.

Some people handle pressure better than others. Reed not missing in the playoffs is because he isn't a choker like a lot of these kickers are.

Texasteel
01-18-2010, 06:15 AM
Some people handle pressure better than others. Reed not missing in the playoffs is because he isn't a choker like a lot of these kickers are.

I can't understand Keading at all. When he was at Iowa, he was money in the bank. Yesterday he looked like chump change, and this is not the 1st time he has done this in the post season. I guess pressure in collage and pressure in the pros are two completely different things.

supa_fly_steeler
01-18-2010, 06:25 AM
Jeff Reeds the most clutch kicker in the nfl when u need him most imo... but his extra curricuar activites have u wondering if u want him on your team.

plenewken
01-18-2010, 06:25 AM
Any kicker can blow a game, Reed included (Chicago). Kaeding missed 3 yesterday, one of them was a 57 yarder which would have been completely out of range for Reed.
I don't have a problem with Reed staying if we use somebody else for KOs. The stats don't lie, Reed is a great FG kicker but he's the worst KO kicker in the League and this is killing us.

HometownGal
01-18-2010, 06:54 AM
Jeff Reeds the most clutch kicker in the nfl when u need him most imo... but his extra curricuar activites have u wondering if u want him on your team.

If he had been charged with and convicted of a felony, I wouldn't want him on the team either, but his 2 episodes with the law were low grade misdemeanors which simply results in him paying a fine. In other words "stupid stuff". Last I heard, he was fighting the last charge - haven't heard anything more.

As I've said before - I'd rather have Skippy than any other PK in the NFL.

Venom
01-18-2010, 07:42 AM
I like Reed . Keep him !!!!!

steelreserve
01-18-2010, 12:05 PM
Some people handle pressure better than others. Reed not missing in the playoffs is because he isn't a choker like a lot of these kickers are.

Maybe. With a sample size of, like ... 15-20 career FG attempts in the playoffs, it's hard to draw any conclusion about why. It's just as possible that he's "clutch" as he's kicked like normal and had exceptional luck. Wouldn't even have to be exceptional luck, actually, just better than average.

Basically what everyone in this thread is doing is saying "Reed hasn't missed a field goal in the playoffs for a long time, so that must mean he'll never miss another field goal in the playoffs."

No. I'm sorry, but that kind of reasoning is just absurd. You're calling other kickers choke artists for missing one key field goal, which could happen to anyone at any time, including Reed. I don't really think it means Rackers or Keading is an unreliable kicker; things just went wrong at a bad time (and note also that after Rackers' miss, his team even went on to WIN the game, so it didn't even turn out to cost them).

So I guess theoretically speaking, if Reed were to miss one in the playoffs next season, he'd be a choke artist and we should be looking for someone else? "It won't happen" is not really anything other than a circular argument, or a very useful thing to say in general for that matter.

zulater
01-18-2010, 01:45 PM
Maybe. With a sample size of, like ... 15-20 career FG attempts in the playoffs, it's hard to draw any conclusion about why. It's just as possible that he's "clutch" as he's kicked like normal and had exceptional luck. Wouldn't even have to be exceptional luck, actually, just better than average.

Basically what everyone in this thread is doing is saying "Reed hasn't missed a field goal in the playoffs for a long time, so that must mean he'll never miss another field goal in the playoffs."

No. I'm sorry, but that kind of reasoning is just absurd. You're calling other kickers choke artists for missing one key field goal, which could happen to anyone at any time, including Reed. I don't really think it means Rackers or Keading is an unreliable kicker; things just went wrong at a bad time (and note also that after Rackers' miss, his team even went on to WIN the game, so it didn't even turn out to cost them).

So I guess theoretically speaking, if Reed were to miss one in the playoffs next season, he'd be a choke artist and we should be looking for someone else? "It won't happen" is not really anything other than a circular argument, or a very useful thing to say in general for that matter.

Kaeding missed 3 field goals yesterday, Shawne Graham missed two in the Bungles home loss. 5 of the 6 misses were inside 40 yards. That's a choke job.

zulater
01-18-2010, 01:54 PM
If he had been charged with and convicted of a felony, I wouldn't want him on the team either, but his 2 episodes with the law were low grade misdemeanors which simply results in him paying a fine. In other words "stupid stuff". Last I heard, he was fighting the last charge - haven't heard anything more.

As I've said before - I'd rather have Skippy than any other PK in the NFL.

In the last episode he was sticking up for a teammate. ( Matt Spaeth) Not that it excuses what he did. But I don't think he's out of control or a moron, just a guy who made a couple mistakes. :noidea: By all acounts I've heard he's a very popular guy in the locker room with his teammates. That's not always the case with kickers. Also anyone who goes to St Vincent's knows that there's not a more accomadating players with the fans than Jeff. No player on the team stays out as long as he does to give kids their autographs.

And i totally agree with you HTG. If the game's on the line and the kick is inside 50 yards, there's not a kicker in the league I'd rather have lining up for the kick than Jeff. :tt02:

xbroughneck
01-18-2010, 02:27 PM
If he had been charged with and convicted of a felony, I wouldn't want him on the team either, but his 2 episodes with the law were low grade misdemeanors which simply results in him paying a fine. In other words "stupid stuff". Last I heard, he was fighting the last charge - haven't heard anything more.

As I've said before - I'd rather have Skippy than any other PK in the NFL.

I agree.

But, I also wouldn't mind giving up Matt Spaeth's roster spot to a situational kicker that can boot the ball out the back of the end zone every time. Give us that and we no longer have to worry about kick off coverage.

Then we just use Reed for field goals.

zulater
01-18-2010, 02:31 PM
I agree.

But, I also wouldn't mind giving up Matt Spaeth's roster spot to a situational kicker that can boot the ball out the back of the end zone every time. Give us that and we no longer have to worry about kick off coverage.

Then we just use Reed for field goals.

I'm all for that.

steelreserve
01-18-2010, 03:10 PM
Kaeding missed 3 field goals yesterday, Shawne Graham missed two in the Bungles home loss. 5 of the 6 misses were inside 40 yards. That's a choke job.

Yeah, and your point is? Reed missed two pretty easy ones in Chicago. The only difference is that it happened not to be the playoffs. I maintain my point that WHEN it happens is basically random, and THAT it can happen to Reed or anyone else is not even up for debate.

I really, really do not buy into the concept that playoff pressure is what makes an otherwise top-notch kicker suddenly choke. At that level, you are kicking under pressure all the time, and if you can't block it out, you're not going to be an NFL kicker.

Am I saying this recent spate of misses is a coincidence? Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

MasterOfPuppets
01-18-2010, 04:10 PM
Yeah, and your point is? Reed missed two pretty easy ones in Chicago. The only difference is that it happened not to be the playoffs. I maintain my point that WHEN it happens is basically random, and THAT it can happen to Reed or anyone else is not even up for debate.

I really, really do not buy into the concept that playoff pressure is what makes an otherwise top-notch kicker suddenly choke. At that level, you are kicking under pressure all the time, and if you can't block it out, you're not going to be an NFL kicker.

Am I saying this recent spate of misses is a coincidence? Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
i agree... had that chicago game been a playoff game they still would have been misses and they still would have lost...:noidea: just because your successful in the past doesn't mean its going to continue.

Psyychoward86
01-18-2010, 04:18 PM
Yeah, and your point is? Reed missed two pretty easy ones in Chicago. The only difference is that it happened not to be the playoffs. I maintain my point that WHEN it happens is basically random, and THAT it can happen to Reed or anyone else is not even up for debate.

I really, really do not buy into the concept that playoff pressure is what makes an otherwise top-notch kicker suddenly choke. At that level, you are kicking under pressure all the time, and if you can't block it out, you're not going to be an NFL kicker.

Am I saying this recent spate of misses is a coincidence? Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

Kaeding has knocked 91.4% of his field goals in, and Shayne Graham is literally one of THE most accurate kickers in NFL history. And they connect for a combined 0/5 field goal attempts in the playoffs?

Coincidence? Lol. Yeah, and Tony Romo just does bad when the Cowboys are in the playoffs or if they're chasing a wildcard spot :rolleyes:

steelerdave1969
01-18-2010, 05:05 PM
Everyone has bad days.. and yes Reed has had on real bad game that I can remember just off the top of my head. I hope that the Steelers keep the guy around myself.

zulater
01-18-2010, 05:07 PM
Kaeding has knocked 91.4% of his field goals in, and Shayne Graham is literally one of THE most accurate kickers in NFL history. And they connect for a combined 0/5 field goal attempts in the playoffs?

Coincidence? Lol. Yeah, and Tony Romo just does bad when the Cowboys are in the playoffs or if they're chasing a wildcard spot :rolleyes:


:applaudit:

steelreserve
01-18-2010, 05:32 PM
OK, fine, you're right. Reed will NEVER MISS, and there's no such thing as luck.

When other people shank a couple of field goals, they're choke artists and OMG I'm so glad we have Reed instead. When Reed shanks a couple field goals, it's just an off day and we can ignore it because it's bad luck and we know it won't happen again.

And to think all this time I was oblivious to the fact that Reed is different! But now I know he's got different rules, because a) he's on our team. Thanks for setting me straight -- I never would've gotten it without your help!

jjpro11
01-18-2010, 05:36 PM
Reed had one bad game in... Christ... about his whole career.. the Chicago game this season. i can't remember him ever missing a game-tying or game-winning field goal late in the 4th quarter or overtime other than that Chicago game. he is as good as you will find.. it's just a matter of whether or not we will be able to afford him. anyone still dissing the guy for his playing ability needs their head examined. his off the field antics are annoying.. but would you rather let him walk and feel like Charger fans do today next season when we are in the playoffs?

stillers4me
01-18-2010, 05:40 PM
I don't want to go throught everything that we've went through this year, and get our special teams fixed, get our defense healthy again and get the running game back on track just to have have a rookie kicker missing field goals in Heinz Field losing games for us.

Pay the man.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/sueincinci/jeffreedmoney.jpg

HometownGal
01-18-2010, 05:42 PM
Reed had one bad game in... Christ... about his whole career.. the Chicago game this season. i can't remember him ever missing a game-tying or game-winning field goal late in the 4th quarter or overtime other than that Chicago game. he is as good as you will find.. it's just a matter of whether or not we will be able to afford him. anyone still dissing the guy for his playing ability needs their head examined. his off the field antics are annoying.. but would you rather let him walk and feel like Charger fans do today next season when we are in the playoffs?

:applaudit::thumbsup::applaudit:

Couldn't have said it any better.

Texasteel
01-18-2010, 05:42 PM
In the last episode he was sticking up for a teammate. ( Matt Spaeth) Not that it excuses what he did. But I don't think he's out of control or a moron, just a guy who made a couple mistakes. :noidea: By all acounts I've heard he's a very popular guy in the locker room with his teammates. That's not always the case with kickers. Also anyone who goes to St Vincent's knows that there's not a more accomadating players with the fans than Jeff. No player on the team stays out as long as he does to give kids their autographs.

And i totally agree with you HTG. If the game's on the line and the kick is inside 50 yards, there's not a kicker in the league I'd rather have lining up for the kick than Jeff. :tt02:

That makes at least 3 of us.

stillers4me
01-18-2010, 05:44 PM
That makes at least 3 of us.

4 of us. :tt03:

steelreserve
01-18-2010, 05:53 PM
Reed had one bad game in... Christ... about his whole career.. the Chicago game this season. i can't remember him ever missing a game-tying or game-winning field goal late in the 4th quarter or overtime other than that Chicago game. he is as good as you will find.. it's just a matter of whether or not we will be able to afford him. anyone still dissing the guy for his playing ability needs their head examined. his off the field antics are annoying.. but would you rather let him walk and feel like Charger fans do today next season when we are in the playoffs?

I'm not trying to put Reed down ... I'm saying that it's foolish to pump him up further because some other dingbat had a bad game. Hey, Romo had a shitty game this week. Does that suddenly change Ben's value, or mean that Ben's never going to have a shitty game again?

SMR
01-18-2010, 06:21 PM
As long as Reed does not keep getting in trouble with the law (and causing unnecessary distractions), letting him go would be a big mistake.

zulater
01-18-2010, 08:41 PM
I'm not trying to put Reed down ... I'm saying that it's foolish to pump him up further because some other dingbat had a bad game. Hey, Romo had a shitty game this week. Does that suddenly change Ben's value, or mean that Ben's never going to have a shitty game again?

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jan/17/kaeding-kicking-himself/

A very big piece of the picture is the other team, the Jets, who also were the opponent for the “one” miss that Kaeding talked about having to shoulder. That was the postseason of 2004, a 40-yarder in overtime that went awry and led to Kaeding misses in three of his next five playoff kicks.

You act as though post season success or failure are just coincidental. I don't think so. It's a different type of pressure, some don't handle it as well as others. When you have a proven quantity why mess with it?

madsteelerfan51
01-18-2010, 11:23 PM
Jeff Reed should stay, he is pretty accurate kicker, he makes them especially when it is needed and works good under pressure, but there is one thing about him that is a bad thing, it seems as he is scared to tackle, when they are running down the field after he punts the ball at times, he is running the same direction as the other team... ha ha

El-Gonzo Jackson
01-19-2010, 12:18 AM
I still think the Cardinals let Neil Rackers walk and sign Reed to a 4 year deal to replace him.

VASteelerGuy
01-19-2010, 04:04 AM
He's clutch on FGs but we're giving up field position on his kicks....unless he can start kicking deeper...let him go.

HometownGal
01-19-2010, 07:47 AM
He's clutch on FGs but we're giving up field position on his kicks....unless he can start kicking deeper...let him go.

I don't really think that mattered much this season, as our ST's still wasn't all that spiffy in their tackling.

SteelerFanInStl
01-19-2010, 07:58 AM
I don't really think that mattered much this season, as our ST's still wasn't all that spiffy in their tackling.

I'm not a Reed hater but it does matter. When the opposing team is catching the ball at the 10-12 yard line, that gives them a big advantage. Yep, the ST tackling is poor but we also need someone who can kick the ball into the end zone. I'd like to keep Reed but I'd also like to sign a kickoff specialist. Did you see the kicker that Dallas had kicking off? Every one of his kickoffs was deep in the end zone and it was rarely even brought out. That's what we need.

steel9guy
01-19-2010, 10:45 AM
We need to keep Reed. We can always find a kickoff specialist but when the games on the line Reed's only screwed up what once! SIGN REED!

steelreserve
01-19-2010, 11:37 AM
I'm not a Reed hater but it does matter. When the opposing team is catching the ball at the 10-12 yard line, that gives them a big advantage. Yep, the ST tackling is poor but we also need someone who can kick the ball into the end zone. I'd like to keep Reed but I'd also like to sign a kickoff specialist. Did you see the kicker that Dallas had kicking off? Every one of his kickoffs was deep in the end zone and it was rarely even brought out. That's what we need.

That's it right there. With us, the return man gets to the 35 before we even have a chance to tackle him. Other teams, that's more like the 20 or 25. Sorry, but if you don't think it makes a difference, all that shows is you've got your head up your ass. We might as well just squib kick it every time, or kick the ball out of bounds.

And yes, as much as I hate the Cowboys, their kickoff guy sure impressed me. I think a guy like that would be more useful to keep on the gameday roster than, say ... Matt Spaeth, or Carey Davis.

stlrtruck
01-19-2010, 12:57 PM
I like Skippy, but I really think this year we need to bring in some heavy competition to get him more focused. Might even be better to get him a trainer to help with his kickoffs.

markymarc
01-19-2010, 03:27 PM
Just get Reed resigned! He is clutch when it comes to kicking field goals.