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Borski
01-13-2010, 11:06 PM
I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed yet.

Who's side are you on, what did you think of Conan's letter to his fans?
People of Earth:
In the last few days, I’ve been getting a lot of sympathy calls, and I want to start by making it clear that no one should waste a second feeling sorry for me. For 17 years, I’ve been getting paid to do what I love most and, in a world with real problems, I’ve been absurdly lucky. That said, I’ve been suddenly put in a very public predicament and my bosses are demanding an immediate decision.

Six years ago, I signed a contract with NBC to take over The Tonight Show in June of 2009. Like a lot of us, I grew up watching Johnny Carson every night and the chance to one day sit in that chair has meant everything to me. I worked long and hard to get that opportunity, passed up far more lucrative offers, and since 2004 I have spent literally hundreds of hours thinking of ways to extend the franchise long into the future. It was my mistaken belief that, like my predecessor, I would have the benefit of some time and, just as important, some degree of ratings support from the prime-time schedule. Building a lasting
audience at 11:30 is impossible without both.

But sadly, we were never given that chance. After only seven months, with my Tonight Show in its infancy, NBC has decided to react to their terrible difficulties in prime-time by making a change in their long-established late night schedule. Last Thursday, NBC executives told me they intended to move the Tonight Show to 12:05 to accommodate the Jay Leno Show at 11:35. For 60 years the Tonight Show has aired immediately following the late local news. I sincerely believe that delaying the Tonight Show into the next day to accommodate another comedy program will seriously damage what I consider to be the greatest franchise in the history of broadcasting. The Tonight Show at 12:05 simply isn’t the Tonight Show. Also, if I accept this move I will be knocking the Late Night show, which I inherited from David Letterman and passed on to Jimmy Fallon, out of its long-held time slot.
That would hurt the other NBC franchise that I love, and it would be unfair to Jimmy.

So it has come to this: I cannot express in words how much I enjoy hosting this program and what an enormous personal disappointment it is for me to consider losing it. My staff and I have worked unbelievably hard and we are very proud of our contribution to the legacy of The Tonight Show. But I cannot participate in what I honestly believe is its destruction. Some people will make the argument that with DVRs and the Internet a time slot doesn’t matter. But with the Tonight Show, I believe nothing could matter more.

There has been speculation about my going to another network but, to set the record straight, I currently have no other offer and honestly have no idea what happens next. My hope is that NBC and I can resolve this quickly so that my staff, crew, and I can do a show we can be proud of, for a company that values our work.

Have a great day and, for the record, I am truly sorry about my hair; it’s always been that way.

Yours,
Conan

so far it appears Conan is leaving NBC in the near future, do you think he will start a show on FOX or take a break from show biz for awhile?

lionslicer
01-14-2010, 05:16 AM
I'm surprised this hasn't been discussed yet.

Who's side are you on, what did you think of Conan's letter to his fans?


so far it appears Conan is leaving NBC in the near future, do you think he will start a show on FOX or take a break from show biz for awhile?

He'll go to FOX because he doesn't want people to lose jobs because of his dispute over NBC. If he goes to FOX, over 200 or so people who work for him on that show will still have a job. If not, they all lose their jobs.

SteelersinCA
01-14-2010, 08:56 AM
I don't think Conan is funny, but that's my opinion. It's all about the dollar baby.

SteelCityMom
01-14-2010, 09:20 AM
I've been a Conan fan since he began the show. I'd hate to see him go, but completely understand if he does. I don't think anyone who is a true fan would blame him for doing it either. If anything, it's going to hurt NBC ratings (which they seem to have a way about them of taking a good thing and completely screwing it up).

A very classy letter by him too, and I know a lot of people appreciate that. He'll find a good spot somewhere, I'm sure of it...and even if he doesn't, he's very talented in a lot of different areas of show-biz, he'll figure something out. Best of luck to him.

fansince'76
01-14-2010, 11:31 AM
Let's see - troops dying in Afghanistan and Iraq, Al-Qaeda getting closer and closer to pulling off another successful domestic attack in the U.S., a double-digit unemployment rate, a so-far-jobless and quite anemic economic "recovery," 100,000+ people killed by an earthquake in Haiti, etc., etc.

Conan and Leno? Non-story.

Dino 6 Rings
01-14-2010, 12:23 PM
I was feeding my son a bottle the other night late and couldn't reach the remote and Conan came on and I watched his opening monolague talking about this issue...

That was the funniest he's ever been.

I dont really care, I don't watch any of those shows so to me, it means nothing. But from an outsiders opinion, Conan is right to want to leave.

NFL Network, ESPN (all of them) and Fox Sports, plus some re-runs of Criminal Minds or some National Geographics in HD is all I need to get me to end my evening.

Vis
01-14-2010, 12:31 PM
Let's see - troops dying in Afghanistan and Iraq, Al-Qaeda getting closer and closer to pulling off another successful domestic attack in the U.S., a double-digit unemployment rate, a so-far-jobless and quite anemic economic "recovery," 100,000+ people killed by an earthquake in Haiti, etc., etc.

Conan and Leno? Non-story.

Yet here you are wasting time on a football fan site on which you have made almost 16,000 posts. Inconsistent? Sports and entertainment are both needed diversions.

And this fight is good TV. Kimmel's imitation of Leno was brilliant.

Vincent
01-14-2010, 01:44 PM
Past my bed time. :yawn:

Borski
01-14-2010, 03:21 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/jay-leno-conan-obrien-nbc-the-tonight-show/

If this is true, its over, Jay is taking back the tonight show.

NBC has threatened to keep Conan off the air for the remainder of his contact (3 1/2 years) but I think by signed Jay to take over the tonight show while COnan is still in charge violated the contact and Conan might be able to go strait to Fox.

lionslicer
01-14-2010, 03:42 PM
Let's see - troops dying in Afghanistan and Iraq, Al-Qaeda getting closer and closer to pulling off another successful domestic attack in the U.S., a double-digit unemployment rate, a so-far-jobless and quite anemic economic "recovery," 100,000+ people killed by an earthquake in Haiti, etc., etc.

Conan and Leno? Non-story.

This whole Conana vs NBC thing kind of happened before the earthquake :]
Everyone knows about the government and the unemployment, its old news and there is nothing anyone can do about it... Atleast people can discuss Conan V/s NBC without killing eachother over political views....
People are argueing over the earthquake in Haiti actually.

T&B fan
01-14-2010, 03:54 PM
as a Letterman fan ,this is great. after Daves sex in the ofice his rateings have gone up . and now you add the tonight show mess it only gets better for Letterman . so I am happy .
Conan is funny seen him on the old Leterman show a few time ,and as for J he is a dork and has allways been one . some of the stories that go around about Leno in the 70s are funny .

SteelCityMom
01-14-2010, 04:01 PM
http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/14/jay-leno-conan-obrien-nbc-the-tonight-show/

If this is true, its over, Jay is taking back the tonight show.

NBC has threatened to keep Conan off the air for the remainder of his contact (3 1/2 years) but I think by signed Jay to take over the tonight show while COnan is still in charge violated the contact and Conan might be able to go strait to Fox.

If that's true...what a load of crap. I was so happy to see Jay go (could never stand him) and see Conan take over The Tonight Show, which, as he mentioned, had been his dream for a long time.

I hope he takes a job at Fox...I can't see why they wouldn't offer him something. I think he's get a good audience there.

Shea
01-14-2010, 10:29 PM
I'm stunned that NBC is going with Leno over Conan.

Leno is bland, boring, and I've never found him to be funny.

Conan is hilarious - brings a fresh approach to late night TV, and his skits are comedy gold.

Way to screw up a good thing you've got going, NBC. :doh:

Letterman and Conan blow Jay out of the water.

Let's see - troops dying in Afghanistan and Iraq, Al-Qaeda getting closer and closer to pulling off another successful domestic attack in the U.S., a double-digit unemployment rate, a so-far-jobless and quite anemic economic "recovery," 100,000+ people killed by an earthquake in Haiti, etc., etc.

Conan and Leno? Non-story.

It's a story for me because of the issues we face in this world that you've mentioned, and for the many more painful parts of our daily lives that we need to take an occassional break from during the day/night.

You need laughter in this life or you'd go insane.

revefsreleets
01-15-2010, 09:06 AM
Jeff Zucker took the #1 Network and wrecked it. He is an idiot.

Steelboy84
01-15-2010, 01:58 PM
Yet here you are wasting time on a football fan site on which you have made almost 16,000 posts. Inconsistent? Sports and entertainment are both needed diversions.

And this fight is good TV. Kimmel's imitation of Leno was brilliant.

lol

7SteelGal43
01-15-2010, 02:33 PM
Well first off, Conan sucks. Jay Leno is that man. Why do you think they're playing with the idea of putting him back in his old time slot ???

SteelCityMom
01-15-2010, 09:28 PM
Well first off, Conan sucks. Jay Leno is that man. Why do you think they're playing with the idea of putting him back in his old time slot ???

Well, we'll have to just disagree on who sucks and who doesn't...BUT, what's really, REALLY stupid on NBC's part is they basically lost Conan (and have to pay him a HUGE chunk of money to let him go) to replace his original time slot with...freaking Jimmy Fallon (who is probably the worst late night host I've ever seen since, I don't know, Chevy Chase I guess).

And they weren't originally intending to give Leno his original spot back, just a half hour after the news which would push back The Tonight Show to 12:05. I truly respect Conan's decision to leave based off of that.

Just one more step towards NBC totally screwing itself. Daytime is nothing but 4 hours of The Today Show and Days and late night is now Leno, Fallon and Carson Daly...gag me with a spoon.

Looks like I'm switching back to Lettermen for the time being.

SteelCityMom
01-15-2010, 09:30 PM
Jeff Zucker took the #1 Network and wrecked it. He is an idiot.

Absolutely agree...if it weren't for Law and Order and Conan, I'd probably never watch NBC. Now they've just given me (and many others) one less reason to tune in.

Shea
01-16-2010, 10:54 PM
Conan reporting for work at NBC:

nxdAONTbS5E

:sofunny:

7SteelGal43
01-17-2010, 12:37 PM
Well, we'll have to just disagree on who sucks and who doesn't...BUT, what's really, REALLY stupid on NBC's part is they basically lost Conan (and have to pay him a HUGE chunk of money to let him go) to replace his original time slot with...freaking Jimmy Fallon (who is probably the worst late night host I've ever seen since, I don't know, Chevy Chase I guess).

And they weren't originally intending to give Leno his original spot back, just a half hour after the news which would push back The Tonight Show to 12:05. I truly respect Conan's decision to leave based off of that.

Just one more step towards NBC totally screwing itself. Daytime is nothing but 4 hours of The Today Show and Days and late night is now Leno, Fallon and Carson Daly...gag me with a spoon.

Looks like I'm switching back to Lettermen for the time being.




I totally agree with you about Fallon. !!!!!!! :thumbsup:

revefsreleets
01-18-2010, 08:50 AM
Conan should take the 30 million and head over to Fox....

lionslicer
01-18-2010, 09:42 AM
I'm stunned that NBC is going with Leno over Conan.

Leno is bland, boring, and I've never found him to be funny.

Conan is hilarious - brings a fresh approach to late night TV, and his skits are comedy gold.

Way to screw up a good thing you've got going, NBC. :doh:

Letterman and Conan blow Jay out of the water.



It's a story for me because of the issues we face in this world that you've mentioned, and for the many more painful parts of our daily lives that we need to take an occassional break from during the day/night.

You need laughter in this life or you'd go insane.

You might not like Jay, but he's always had number 1 ratings over Letterman while on the tonight show. I hate Letterman, he's so corny, and those top ten lists are so stupid, Jay's headlines are better :P

I always liked Conan more than both of them, but Conan is more for younger people, he's cooky and weird, and older people just aint gettin it.

T&B fan
01-18-2010, 10:08 AM
You might not like Jay, but he's always had number 1 ratings over Letterman while on the tonight show. I hate Letterman, he's so corny, and those top ten lists are so stupid, Jay's headlines are better :P

I always liked Conan more than both of them, but Conan is more for younger people, he's cooky and weird, and older people just aint gettin it.

NOT true ... when Jay started it was all Letterman and stayd that way till some actor ( don't recall his name ) got cought with a hooker, like 1 or 2 days before he was to be on Daves show so he called it off . then showed up on Jays show like 3 weeks later or so . and after that Jay has had the winning # s on late night .

IMO Jays not that good he gets a lot of his stuff from other shows . TV and Raido alot of the stuff Jay has done came from Howard Stern .

IMO most of the headlines are made up ... not be him or his staff , but by the same person sending in the headline so they can be on TV ...

The Duke
01-21-2010, 09:23 PM
aand the masturbating bear was back last night

God, I love Conan!

Shea
01-21-2010, 09:46 PM
The masturbating bear. :sofunny: Who thinks up these things?

I read that part of Conan's stipulations to leaving would be that he could retain the rights to that bear and a few more of his trademark creations, and NBC obliged.

Looks like he's officially off late night - wonder if another network will pick him up?

I just can't picture him not having a show.

7SteelGal43
01-21-2010, 11:45 PM
NOT true ... when Jay started it was all Letterman and stayd that way till some actor ( don't recall his name ) got cought with a hooker, like 1 or 2 days before he was to be on Daves show so he called it off . then showed up on Jays show like 3 weeks later or so . and after that Jay has had the winning # s on late night .

IMO Jays not that good he gets a lot of his stuff from other shows . TV and Raido alot of the stuff Jay has done came from Howard Stern .

IMO most of the headlines are made up ... not be him or his staff , but by the same person sending in the headline so they can be on TV ...




Hugh Grant. yw :chuckle:

but the thing is, one of the biggest mistakes NBC made was giving the Tonite Show to Conan.

lionslicer
01-22-2010, 06:22 AM
NOT true ... when Jay started it was all Letterman and stayd that way till some actor ( don't recall his name ) got cought with a hooker, like 1 or 2 days before he was to be on Daves show so he called it off . then showed up on Jays show like 3 weeks later or so . and after that Jay has had the winning # s on late night .

IMO Jays not that good he gets a lot of his stuff from other shows . TV and Raido alot of the stuff Jay has done came from Howard Stern .

IMO most of the headlines are made up ... not be him or his staff , but by the same person sending in the headline so they can be on TV ...

And Dave's top Ten's aren't made up? lol

And fact is, you can look it up, Jay led the ratings against Letterman for 14 straight years. And it wasn't just because of one guest, its because people never got Dave... He's as cooky as Conan, just he's older. But in general all of them have writers, and most of their jokes aren't even ones they thought up, they are all just faces with someone elses jokes put in their mouths.

Even during the writers strike, Dave and Conan tried having their shows go on without writers, but their ratings dived to their lame duck jokes and they stopped. So don't bring that up....

Even most of what they say during interviews is thought up by writers. Most of the interview itself is scripted.

fansince'76
01-22-2010, 10:40 AM
and the masturbating bear was back last night

iRCiWvrw1Fs

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

T&B fan
01-22-2010, 12:16 PM
And Dave's top Ten's aren't made up? lol

And fact is, you can look it up, Jay led the ratings against Letterman for 14 straight years. And it wasn't just because of one guest, its because people never got Dave... He's as cooky as Conan, just he's older. But in general all of them have writers, and most of their jokes aren't even ones they thought up, they are all just faces with someone elses jokes put in their mouths.

Even during the writers strike, Dave and Conan tried having their shows go on without writers, but their ratings dived to their lame duck jokes and they stopped. So don't bring that up....

Even most of what they say during interviews is thought up by writers. Most of the interview itself is scripted.

I looked it up at the start Dave wins
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Letterman

The main competitor of The Late Show is NBC's The Tonight Show, which was hosted by Jay Leno for nearly 16 years, but since June 1, 2009 has been hosted by Conan O'Brien. In 1993 and 1994, The Late Show consistently gained higher ratings than Tonight. But in 1995, ratings dipped and Leno's show consistently beat Letterman's in the ratings.

now for the writers strike Dave came back and one of the funnyest things was his face he had a beard . dave was the frist show to make an individual agreement with the Writers Guild of America . and his writers came back, he never went back off . yes writers do most if not all the jokes for the host .

as for the top ten of corse its made up .... . I was talking about Jays theft of bits like headlines . a Lettermen gag he was doing on his morning show in Indy it was and still called Small Town News,. Jays interviewing ( Jaywalking ) of the homeless and porn starts is from Howard Stern along with "Stuttering John" Melendez .

interview are scripted for the most part they are preinterviews done and ? are made up from them so to give a opening for the gust to tell a hopfuly funny story . and keep things moveing along .

Borski
01-22-2010, 12:39 PM
I predict that when Jay returns he will get worse ratings then Conan, I'm sure a decent amount of Conan fans used to watch Jay while they waited for Conan (I did) and after all of this a pretty good chunk of them will boycott Jay Lenos new tonightshow.

SteelCityMom
01-22-2010, 01:43 PM
I predict that when Jay returns he will get worse ratings then Conan, I'm sure a decent amount of Conan fans used to watch Jay while they waited for Conan (I did) and after all of this a pretty good chunk of them will boycott Jay Lenos new tonightshow.

Yes, that was very much the case with me.

I for one would LOVE to see Conan go to Comedy Central and have a time slot somewhere around The Daily Show and Colbert...it just seems fitting to me. But I'm sure CC doesn't have the kind of money that Conan would want, it would be nice though. The Conan vs. Stewart vs. Colbert stint about who created Mike Huckabee was just classic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVg1CW08oHA

Tonights the last night...definitely an end of an era for me. Will definitely be switching back to Dave or Comedy Central until Conan lands another gig.

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Nothing would satisfy me tonight than one more pull of the lever...

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The Duke
01-22-2010, 11:55 PM
Well, that was just a beautiful finale. No other words for it. Perfect

thank you Conan

7SteelGal43
01-22-2010, 11:59 PM
Well, come March, the Tonite Show will be back in capable hands. Can't wait and.....





























............WELCOME BACK JAY LENO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :chuckle:

Borski
01-23-2010, 12:12 AM
iRCiWvrw1Fs

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Well, that was just a beautiful finale. No other words for it. Perfect

thank you Conan

It was amazing. Can't wait to see Conan be a guest on Letterman, they are good friends and have appeared on each others shows as guests.

We'll see Leno's return as a flop, and NBC realize what a horrible mistake they have made.

The Duke
01-23-2010, 12:21 AM
It was amazing. Can't wait to see Conan be a guest on Letterman, they are good friends and have appeared on each others shows as guests.

We'll see Leno's return as a flop, and NBC realize what a horrible mistake they have made.

They sure will

hope the Andy Richter show becomes a reality though :chuckle:

at least now I don't have to choose between watching letterman or the tonight show anymore

SteelCityMom
01-23-2010, 12:42 AM
Well, that was just a beautiful finale. No other words for it. Perfect

thank you Conan

It sure was. It was hard watching him get all choked up like that at the end though. He's a true class act though, that's for sure. I have no doubt he'll get a great gig elsewhere. People like him who work hard and have true talent always land on their feet.

For anyone who missed it, here's the clip of his goodbye from The Tonight Show.

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SteelersinCA
01-23-2010, 12:46 AM
I like how now Leno is garbage because NBC screwed it all up. Leno was at the top for a long time, not just because of Conan's fans hanging around. Leno didn't flop before and he won't now.

7SteelGal43
01-23-2010, 01:17 AM
It was amazing. Can't wait to see Conan be a guest on Letterman, they are good friends and have appeared on each others shows as guests.

We'll see Leno's return as a flop, and NBC realize what a horrible mistake they have made.



NBC already saw what a big mistake they made. That's why Jay Leno is getting the Tonite Show back.





TEAM LENO !!

SteelCityMom
01-23-2010, 09:18 AM
NBC already saw what a big mistake they made. That's why Jay Leno is getting the Tonite Show back.





TEAM LENO !!

Lol, you realize that the only reason Leno is getting The Tonight Show back is because Conan wouldn't have the time slot moved back a half hour. If he had accepted the 12:05 time change, Conan would still be the host of The Tonight Show. At least Conan stuck by his word...Leno is the Favre of late night right now.

SteelersinCA
01-23-2010, 11:39 AM
Good analogy, I like it.

smokin3000gt
01-23-2010, 01:16 PM
Seems like a real classy guy. I'm sure he will end up somewhere as soon as he is legally able to.

lol @ favre analogy. how true..

7SteelGal43
01-23-2010, 01:43 PM
Lol, you realize that the only reason Leno is getting The Tonight Show back is because Conan wouldn't have the time slot moved back a half hour. If he had accepted the 12:05 time change, Conan would still be the host of The Tonight Show. At least Conan stuck by his word...Leno is the Favre of late night right now.



oh hi SCM :wave:

and yeah, I knew all about what NBC had originally proposed.

7SteelGal43
01-23-2010, 02:41 PM
Well, we'll have to just disagree on who sucks and who doesn't...BUT, what's really, REALLY stupid on NBC's part is they basically lost Conan (and have to pay him a HUGE chunk of money to let him go) to replace his original time slot with...freaking Jimmy Fallon (who is probably the worst late night host I've ever seen since, I don't know, Chevy Chase I guess).

And they weren't originally intending to give Leno his original spot back, just a half hour after the news which would push back The Tonight Show to 12:05. I truly respect Conan's decision to leave based off of that.

Just one more step towards NBC totally screwing itself. Daytime is nothing but 4 hours of The Today Show and Days and late night is now Leno, Fallon and Carson Daly...gag me with a spoon.

Looks like I'm switching back to Lettermen for the time being.




I don't blame Conan for making that decision either. But THAT is what led to Leno gettin the Tonight Show back, not him pullin a Favre.

SteelCityMom
01-23-2010, 03:23 PM
I don't blame Conan for making that decision either. But THAT is what led to Leno gettin the Tonight Show back, not him pullin a Favre.

No, him pullin' a Favre was the fact that he was supposed to retire from late night....and then didn't. Imagine if Carson had pulled that crap after Leno took over The Tonight Show. Leno would have been gone in a heartbeat, considering it took Leno a good 3 years of hosting for his ratings to start beating who Carson and many others thought would be Carson's replacement...Letterman. They never really gave Conan the same chance that Leno had when he first started.

I know you don't like Conan, and that's fine...to each his (or her in this case lol) own. But not very many people took the switch from Carson to Leno very well either. The one and only reason that NBC had this knee-jerk reaction to trying to keep Leno around is because the network is pretty much going down the crapper and they know it. They literally can't afford to give Conan the same chance that they gave Leno over a decade and a half ago, when the network was much more stable. I'm sure his ratings will be fine after he takes back over, but he has and will lose a lot of viewers over this...as well as a lot of peoples respect.

7SteelGal43
01-23-2010, 03:32 PM
No, him pullin' a Favre was the fact that he was supposed to retire from late night....and then didn't. Imagine if Carson had pulled that crap after Leno took over The Tonight Show. Leno would have been gone in a heartbeat, considering it took Leno a good 3 years of hosting for his ratings to start beating who Carson and many others thought would be Carson's replacement...Letterman. They never really gave Conan the same chance that Leno had when he first started.



:noidea: jus' not seein the whole Favre comparison

SteelCityMom
01-23-2010, 03:49 PM
:noidea: jus' not seein the whole Favre comparison


Ummm...not retiring when they said they were??? I thought it was pretty self-explanatory lol. :noidea:

7SteelGal43
01-23-2010, 04:33 PM
Ummm...not retiring when they said they were??? I thought it was pretty self-explanatory lol. :noidea:



When you're right, you're right SCM. Went back and looked at when Leno left the Tonite Show, and he sure said he wanted to go out while he was ontop. HIS decision.

Borski
01-23-2010, 04:38 PM
:noidea: jus' not seein the whole Favre comparison

eWKwylGBSoI

Leftoverhard
01-23-2010, 05:16 PM
Why do people like Leno? I think he's about as funny as a fart in an elevator.

Shea
01-23-2010, 08:42 PM
Why do people like Leno? I think he's about as funny as a fart in an elevator.

:sofunny: Exactly!

I just don't get what people see in him. He's unoriginal and just plain bland. A few headlines and then guests where he'll pull up some decade old video on the them which leads to an embarrassing and awkward interview. Then a musical guest. That's Leno. :yawn:

but the thing is, one of the biggest mistakes NBC made was giving the Tonite Show to Conan.

No, the biggest mistake NBC made was to take his show back. Leno is going to tank now more than ever. I know that I personally will never watch him again, while Conan will go onto another network and have the success that NBC never gave him the chance to achieve. This is going to come back to bite them in the ass - big time!

GBMelBlount
01-23-2010, 09:17 PM
Why do people like Leno? I think he's about as funny as a fart in an elevator.

I guess humor is in the eye of the beholder. :chuckle:

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Shea
01-23-2010, 09:30 PM
That clip reminded me of something you'd see on the old reruns of candid camera, GB. :sofunny:

I wish I could find the montage Conan put together on his last show that highlighted some of the best moments during his seven month tenure, but nobody has uploaded it - yet.

It had more laughs within it than all I've ever seen on Leno in how many years?? :shake01:

Best part was at the the end: to be continued.....:thumbsup:

Borski
01-23-2010, 09:37 PM
That clip reminded me of something you'd see on the old reruns of candid camera, GB. :sofunny:

I wish I could find the montage Conan put together on his last show that highlighted some of the best moments during his seven month tenure, but nobody has uploaded it - yet.

It had more laughs within it than all I've ever seen on Leno in how many years?? :shake01:

Best part was at the the end: to be continued.....:thumbsup:

http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/

its the featured video

Shea
01-23-2010, 10:35 PM
http://www.tonightshowwithconanobrien.com/

its the featured video

Yep, that's the footage I was talking about. Thanks, Borski. :thumbsup:

Leno will be toast when Conan gets his next gig.

Team CoCo will prevail. :danceshout:

Mark my words!

SteelersinCA
01-24-2010, 10:21 AM
How do you think Leno is going to have this epic fail when he was dominant for so long? Letterman didn't even come close in the ratings. Are you postulating that all those people watching Leno were Conan fans? I mean it's OK to not like someone, everyone has their preferences, but to think that someone who was the king of late night for that long will just vanish into nothingness is a little irrational, no?

Borski
01-24-2010, 10:53 AM
How do you think Leno is going to have this epic fail when he was dominant for so long? Letterman didn't even come close in the ratings. Are you postulating that all those people watching Leno were Conan fans? I mean it's OK to not like someone, everyone has their preferences, but to think that someone who was the king of late night for that long will just vanish into nothingness is a little irrational, no?

I don't think he will vanish into the night, but through all this I think he has lost alot of fans and I don't think he will beat Letterman when he debuts for his 2nd run of the Tonight show and when Conan returns in September Lenos rating will get even lower.

SteelersinCA
01-24-2010, 02:42 PM
All their ratings will get lower when there are 3 of them instead of 2. Coincidentally, Conan got a 7 share on his last night on the Tonight Show. Leno got an 8 share when he was coming back in 3 months to the same network. I think Jay has plenty of fans out there.

7SteelGal43
01-28-2010, 05:29 PM
Did anyone see Leno on Oprah today ?

Shea
01-28-2010, 11:20 PM
Did anyone see Leno on Oprah today ?

I recorded it but have yet to watch it.

I'm skeptical about what it will lead me to feel about Leno, who I'm currently annoyed with and want to be rid of, but I'll watch it in the next day or two regardless.

He had a LONG run on the Tonight Show, and was given an advanced timeline, five years in fact, to acknowledge and accept that it was time to pass off the show and to hand it to another generation, yet he couldn't let it go.

:shake01:

And without putting to bed his time, he ruined, in my opinion the success of Conan with his incesstance for having a show, which turned into the ten o'clock slot that not only was a joke but tanked Conan in the process due to people tuning out and not enabling NBC to properly promote O'Brien.

I'll watch what I recorded and I respect your view on Leno, but Conan got screwed in so many ways and Leno could have simply diverted all this mess by realizing and excepting that his time was up.

Borski
01-28-2010, 11:42 PM
Did anyone see Leno on Oprah today ?

Saw some clips of it, wasn't impressed and he lied a couple times.

There was a part of the interview where Oprah asked why he made the cheap shot on Letterman's personal life, and Leno said he did it once, onle once (he emphasized once several times) but he did it at least 3 times in that last week alone. it wouldn't be a big deal unless how many times he emphasized he only did it one time.

T&B fan
03-02-2010, 08:38 PM
Jays back

Updated: in the local people meter markets Leno was twice as popular with adults 18-49, scoring a 2.0 rating vs a 1.0 rating for Letterman.

In the metered market houshold ratings between 11:30p-12:30a Jay Leno’s return to The Tonight Show dominated Leterman and Late Show. Leno had a 5.4/14 (household rating/share) to Letterman’s 3.0/8.

Sure, Leno’s first night back (and perhaps first week or two back) is likely inflated by a post-Olympic halo, but the early indication is “all is forgiven.”

http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/late-night

come on Dave :tt03:

Borski
03-02-2010, 10:02 PM
His return will be a bump in the ratings for a little while but I expect it to drop off after not to long. We'll see what happens.

SteelersMongol
03-02-2010, 10:15 PM
Wow, off-season is here & U guys R really bored.

Borski
03-03-2010, 12:32 AM
Leno Returns Strong, Doesn't Match Conan's Tonight Debut (http://www.seattlepi.com/tvguide/416114_tvgif2.html)

By ADAM BRYANT

Jay Leno returned to the Tonight Show the same way he left it: At No. 1 in the ratings.

The Tonight Show scored 6.6 million viewers to handily defeat The Late Show, which earned 3.8 million viewers for Leno's longtime rival, David Letterman. Leno's ratings were up 45 percent over Conan O'Brien's average Tonight Show numbers, but were a whopping 58 percent lower than O'Brien's ratings on his first night on the job, back in June.

Shea
03-03-2010, 11:10 PM
Jays back

Updated: in the local people meter markets Leno was twice as popular with adults 18-49, scoring a 2.0 rating vs a 1.0 rating for Letterman.

This is what confuses me. That age group I've quoted prefers Leno over Letterman, and Conan?? :huh: I don't buy that and find it fishy.

Leno's shows have always seem to me to be catered towards our elderly and often found it fascinating that they were able to stay up so late. (Just kidding!) But to say that age group prefers Leno over the others, makes me believe something is screwey here about the tracking of ratings. :bs:

He's not funny. He's archaic and boring, therefore I don't see how he is found to be relatable to me or my age group??

Leno Returns Strong, Doesn't Match Conan's Tonight Debut (http://www.seattlepi.com/tvguide/416114_tvgif2.html)

but were a whopping 58 percent lower than O'Brien's ratings on his first night on the job, back in June.[/B]

I get this.

People are probably only tuning into Jay's initial shows out of curiosity. It won't last.

Borski
03-11-2010, 02:40 AM
Leno's 'Tonight Show' now trailing Letterman in the ratings (http://www.examiner.com/x-15166-Dallas-Comedy-Examiner~y2010m3d10-TV-Ratings-News-Lenos-Tonight-Show-now-trailing-Letterman-in-the-ratings)

"Yes, yes, there's a big portion of the population that loves falling asleep to Jay Leno's "Tonight Show". And, yes, Conan wasn't putting up the ratings that Leno ever did when he was at the helm. But all this anti-Leno sentiment that's been going around lately has had repercussions, and we're starting to see them settle in for the first time."
...
“The Tonight Show with Jay Leno” (3.2/8 in metered-market households) trailed CBS’s “Late Show with David Letterman” (3.5/9) while topping ABC’s “Nightline (2.7/) and “Jimmy Kimmel Live” (1.3/4) in Nielsen’s 56 metered markets."

The Duke
03-25-2010, 11:07 PM
There are rumors Conan may be signing a deal with fox in may

Can't remember where I saw the link though....