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zulater
01-14-2010, 08:37 AM
http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2010/1/12/576709/the-steelers-ten-best-draft-picks

This is laugh out loud bad. :toofunny:

Without giving it much thought here's mine/

1. Ben Roethlisberger 1st 2004. Yeah it was a no brainer, but it was also franchise changing, the single most important addition to this team in the decade.

2. Troy Polamalu 1st 2003. I know some Steelers fans who still insist that the Steelers gave up too much in the trade up. :rofl: The Steelers identified a franchise changing player and didn't risk losing him by waiting to draft in their designated spot. Brilliant move on Cowbert's part. :applaudit:

3. LaMarr Woodley 2nd 2007. To get one of the top 3 or 4 players in an entire draft class in the second round is working the system the right way!

4. Heath Miller 1st 2005. To get arguably the best overall tight end in the game at the bottom of the first round was tremendous value.

5. Casey Hampton 1st 2001. Replace tight end with nose tackle from above, and you've got Casey's pick.

6. Santonio Holmes 1st 2006. Another brilliant trade up, Do we win SB XLIII without him?

7. Ike Taylor 4th 2003. Throw out this year and he's been a very good cornerback. Great value in the fourth round.

8. Marvel Smith 2nd round 2000. Was a very good OT for most of the decade.

9. tie

Clark Haggans 5th round 2000

Brett Keisel 7th 2002

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CargoJon
01-14-2010, 08:53 AM
Yeah, I like your list way better than the one in the article LOL...

Hey, in Ike's defense, he DID have the only interception by a CB this year. Too bad he waited until the last defensive play of the year to get it LOL...

zulater
01-14-2010, 09:07 AM
Yeah, I like your list way better than the one in the article LOL...

Hey, in Ike's defense, he DID have the only interception by a CB this year. Too bad he waited until the last defensive play of the year to get it LOL...

I think the guy was just trying too hard? :noidea: I don't think any of the choices he cited were bad, but you can't do that list and leave guys like Ben, Troy, Casey and Heath off. And to cite Max Starks and Willie Colon over Marvel Smith, who spent the better part of the last decade as a near elite OT, well that's just crazy talk. :chuckle:

steelreserve
01-14-2010, 10:20 AM
Yeah, the guy in the article seems to have a hard-on for our current offensive line. But really ... they were all drafted in the mid-to-low rounds, and we've gotten about what you'd expect out of them, which is average performance. Big whoop. Definitely not a "steal" by any means.

In no particular order, the ones I'd put on my list are

Aaron Smith - 4th round
Kiesel - 7th round
Haggans - 5th round
Porter - 3rd round
Roethlisberger - 1st round
Polamalu - 1st round
Miller - 1st round
Hampton - 1st round
Taylor - 3rd round
Woodley - 2nd round

I'd probably have to put Smith at the top of that list -- THAT was probably the biggest absolute steal out of anyone we have on the team.

fat4jc
01-14-2010, 11:18 AM
Here would be my list. Be gentle...


Ben Roethlisberger - 1st Round 2004
Troy Polamalu - 1st Round 2003
Aaron Smith - 4th Round 1999
Lamarr Woodley - 2nd Round 2007
Casey Hampton - 1st Round 2001
Heath Miller - 1st Round 2005
Ike Taylor - 3rd Round 2003
Brett Keisel - 7th Round 2002
Joey Porter - 3rd Round 1999
Clark Haggans - 5th Round 2000

Steely McSmash
01-14-2010, 11:40 AM
I think the OP's point was to look for best value and "beating the odds" so to speak. Those guys exceeeded expectations.

So by those terms, great players picked in rounds 1, 2 are just living up to their value.

I agree with his picks with the exception of Starks and Kemo. Porter is a good call. I'd agree with the guy on BTSC who said that Gay was a good deal in the 5th. He's a nickel corner ability, pretty good for the 5th round.

SteelGhost
01-14-2010, 11:54 AM
I agree with the list, I'd only change Ike Taylor for Mike "60 Minutes" Wallace a 3rd. round steal :thumbsup:

steelreserve
01-14-2010, 12:06 PM
I think the OP's point was to look for best value and "beating the odds" so to speak. Those guys exceeeded expectations.

So by those terms, great players picked in rounds 1, 2 are just living up to their value.

I agree with his picks with the exception of Starks and Kemo. Porter is a good call. I'd agree with the guy on BTSC who said that Gay was a good deal in the 5th. He's a nickel corner ability, pretty good for the 5th round.

I get that point, but guys like Ben, Troy, and Big Snack, you're lucky if even a top-five pick turns out to be that good. That's two Hall of Famers and a third guy who's arguably the best in the league at his position. That beats the hell out of Kemo any day if you ask me.

Looking back through the years, I'm actually surprised at how many of our lower-round picks turned out to not do anything for us at all. I guess that just happens a lot.

7willBheaven
01-14-2010, 02:08 PM
Yeah, I like your list way better than the one in the article LOL...

Hey, in Ike's defense, he DID have the only interception by a CB this year. Too bad he waited until the last defensive play of the year to get it LOL...

Actually Townsend had an INT earlier in the same game.

Psyychoward86
01-14-2010, 04:42 PM
Yeah, the guy in the article seems to have a hard-on for our current offensive line. But really ... they were all drafted in the mid-to-low rounds, and we've gotten about what you'd expect out of them, which is average performance. Big whoop. Definitely not a "steal" by any means.

In no particular order, the ones I'd put on my list are

Aaron Smith - 4th round
Kiesel - 7th round
Haggans - 5th round
Porter - 3rd round
Roethlisberger - 1st round
Polamalu - 1st round
Miller - 1st round
Hampton - 1st round
Taylor - 3rd round
Woodley - 2nd round

I'd probably have to put Smith at the top of that list -- THAT was probably the biggest absolute steal out of anyone we have on the team.

Smith wasnt drafted in this decade

lionslicer
01-14-2010, 04:44 PM
Smith wasnt drafted in this decade

If you are doing elementary Math, he was... since 2009 minus 1999 = 10.... 10 is a decade ;D

MasterOfPuppets
01-14-2010, 07:20 PM
If you are doing elementary Math, he was... since 2009 minus 1999 = 10.... 10 is a decade ;D
but this 2010...not 2009

fat4jc
01-14-2010, 08:18 PM
but this 2010...not 2009

But we haven't drafted our 2010 draft class yet, so.....our last 10 drafts would include the draft of 1999. :doh:

Psyychoward86
01-14-2010, 08:23 PM
lol. if u want to be technical about it

zulater
01-14-2010, 11:25 PM
But we haven't drafted our 2010 draft class yet, so.....our last 10 drafts would include the draft of 1999. :doh:

2000-2009 equals 10 draft classes. That's why I excluded Aaron Smith and Joey Porter off my list.

zulater
01-14-2010, 11:28 PM
I get that point, but guys like Ben, Troy, and Big Snack, you're lucky if even a top-five pick turns out to be that good. That's two Hall of Famers and a third guy who's arguably the best in the league at his position. That beats the hell out of Kemo any day if you ask me.
Looking back through the years, I'm actually surprised at how many of our lower-round picks turned out to not do anything for us at all. I guess that just happens a lot.

That's the way I looked at it too. If you had drafted Ben, Troy or Woodley with the first overall pick ( if you had it) would anyone be complaining? Casey and Heath Miller equate to top 10 value and both were drafted at the bottom of the round, hence they make my list.

Tone's Toes
01-15-2010, 12:33 AM
Best Picks of The 2000-2010 Decade So Far.

#1. Ben Roethlisberger - Miami (OH) - 1st Round (2004) (2x SB Champ QB)
#2. Troy Polamalu - USC - 1st round (2003) (Best player on 2 SB defenses)
#3. Casey Hampton - Texas - 1st round (2000) (Monster NT for a decade and 2x SB champ)
#4. LaMarr Woodley - Michigan - 2nd round (2007) (Will be a beast OLB for another 7-10 years)
#5. Heath Miller - Virginia - 1st round (2005) (Most complete TE in the league and 2x SB Champ)
#6. Santonio Holmes - Ohio State - 1st round (2006) (Will be our #1 WR for a long time and a SB MVP. Probably our MVP for that whole postseason run to SB 43)
#7. Ike Taylor - Louisiana-Lafayette - 4th round (2003) (#1 CB on 2 SB Teams)
#8. Larry Foote - Michigan - 4th round (2002) (Dominate run-stopper on both SB teams)
#9. Brett Keisel - Brigham Young - 7th round (2002) (Contributed to both SB Teams)
#10. Antwaan Randle El - Indiana - 2nd round (2002) (Very solid slot WR. Was in over his head as a starter, but that pass to Ward basically clinched us SB 40 so he's making my list.)

Honorable Mention
1st Round (2000) Plaxico Burress - Michigan State. (Just to cheer him up since he's in jail and all...)


Without 1st Rounders
2nd Round (2007) LaMarr Woodley - Michigan
2nd Round (2002) Antwaan Randle El - Indiana
2nd Round (2000) Marvel Smith Arizona State
3rd Round (2002) Chris Hope Florida State
4th Round (2006) Willie Colon Hofstra
4th Round (2003) Ike Taylor - Louisiana-Lafayette
4th Round (2002) Larry Foote - Michigan
5th Round (2000) Clark Haggans Colorado State
6th Round (2005) Chris Kemoeatu Utah
7th Round (2002) Brett Keisel - Brigham Young

Honorable Mention
3rd Round (2009) Mike Wallace - Mississippi (Just too soon, Mike. All the other players contributed to a SB championship)


Biggest Busts of the Decade
2nd Round (2004) Ricardo Colclough Tusculum
2nd Round (2003) Alonzo Jackson Florida State
2nd Round (2001) Kendrell Bell Georgia
2nd Round (2008) Limas Sweed Texas (Haha, I had to do it. He could turn it around, but I'm not holding my breath)
3rd Round (2008) Bruce Davis UCLA
3rd Round (2006) Anthony Smith Syracuse
3rd Round (2006) Willie Reid Florida State
3rd Round (2007) Matt Spaeth Minnesotta (Waste of a Pick. We've never had any need for him)

Honorable Mention
1st Round (2002) Kendall Simmons Auburn (Not his fault. He would have been much better and still be here if it weren't for the injuries and diabetes that derailed his career to some degree. He was decent for us for a while, but he was an O-Lineman, 1st round pick and you take those guy's to hopefully get a 10 year starter that'll make some Pro Bowls etc. and Simmons didn't.)

Also, Kendrell Bell was by far the biggest "flash in the pan" of this decades picks.

Biggest Steals
7th Round Brett Keisel Brigham Young
6th Round Chris Kemoeatu Utah
5th Round Clark Haggans Colorado State
4th Round Larry Foote Michigan
4th Round Ike Taylor Louisiana-Lafayette
4th Round Willie Colon Hofstra

Honorable Mention
Chris Hope - Florida State - 3rd Round Pick in 2002. (I wanted to keep the Steals to 4th round or lower so I didn't include him. Heck of a safety though)

verks36
01-15-2010, 01:46 AM
Best Picks of The 2000-2010 Decade So Far.

#1. Ben Roethlisberger - Miami (OH) - 1st Round (2004) (2x SB Champ QB)
#2. Troy Polamalu - USC - 1st round (2003) (Best player on 2 SB defenses)
#3. Casey Hampton - Texas - 1st round (2000) (Monster NT for a decade and 2x SB champ)
#4. LaMarr Woodley - Michigan - 2nd round (2007) (Will be a beast OLB for another 7-10 years)
#5. Heath Miller - Virginia - 1st round (2005) (Most complete TE in the league and 2x SB Champ)
#6. Santonio Holmes - Ohio State - 1st round (2006) (Will be our #1 WR for a long time and a SB MVP. Probably our MVP for that whole postseason run to SB 43)
#7. Ike Taylor - Louisiana-Lafayette - 4th round (2003) (#1 CB on 2 SB Teams)
#8. Larry Foote - Michigan - 4th round (2002) (Dominate run-stopper on both SB teams)
#9. Brett Keisel - Brigham Young - 7th round (2002) (Contributed to both SB Teams)
#10. Antwaan Randle El - Indiana - 2nd round (2002) (Very solid slot WR. Was in over his head as a starter, but that pass to Ward basically clinched us SB 40 so he's making my list.)

Honorable Mention
1st Round (2000) Plaxico Burress - Michigan State. (Just to cheer him up since he's in jail and all...)


Without 1st Rounders
2nd Round (2007) LaMarr Woodley - Michigan
2nd Round (2002) Antwaan Randle El - Indiana
2nd Round (2000) Marvel Smith Arizona State
3rd Round (2002) Chris Hope Florida State
4th Round (2006) Willie Colon Hofstra
4th Round (2003) Ike Taylor - Louisiana-Lafayette
4th Round (2002) Larry Foote - Michigan
5th Round (2000) Clark Haggans Colorado State
6th Round (2005) Chris Kemoeatu Utah
7th Round (2002) Brett Keisel - Brigham Young

Honorable Mention
3rd Round (2009) Mike Wallace - Mississippi (Just too soon, Mike. All the other players contributed to a SB championship)


Biggest Busts of the Decade
2nd Round (2004) Ricardo Colclough Tusculum
2nd Round (2003) Alonzo Jackson Florida State
2nd Round (2001) Kendrell Bell Georgia
2nd Round (2008) Limas Sweed Texas (Haha, I had to do it. He could turn it around, but I'm not holding my breath)
3rd Round (2008) Bruce Davis UCLA
3rd Round (2006) Anthony Smith Syracuse
3rd Round (2006) Willie Reid Florida State
3rd Round (2007) Matt Spaeth Minnesotta (Waste of a Pick. We've never had any need for him)

Honorable Mention
1st Round (2002) Kendall Simmons Auburn (Not his fault. He would have been much better and still be here if it weren't for the injuries and diabetes that derailed his career to some degree. He was decent for us for a while, but he was an O-Lineman, 1st round pick and you take those guy's to hopefully get a 10 year starter that'll make some Pro Bowls etc. and Simmons didn't.)

Also, Kendrell Bell was by far the biggest "flash in the pan" of this decades picks.

Biggest Steals
7th Round Brett Keisel Brigham Young
6th Round Chris Kemoeatu Utah
5th Round Clark Haggans Colorado State
4th Round Larry Foote Michigan
4th Round Ike Taylor Louisiana-Lafayette
4th Round Willie Colon Hofstra

Honorable Mention
Chris Hope - Florida State - 3rd Round Pick in 2002. (I wanted to keep the Steals to 4th round or lower so I didn't include him. Heck of a safety though)



personally wouldnt consider kendrell bell as a bust

While in the black and gold he put in some solid work. While on the chiefs now thats another story

lionslicer
01-15-2010, 06:19 AM
But we haven't drafted our 2010 draft class yet, so.....our last 10 drafts would include the draft of 1999. :doh:

But we have a draft choice every year

1) 2000
2) 2001
3) 2002
4) 2003
5) 2004
6) 2005
7) 2006
8) 2007
9) 2008
10)2009

now thats a decade right there, 10 years. 2010-2019 will be the next decade. I know people want to say 2010-2020, but thats tecnically 11 years.

lionslicer
01-15-2010, 06:22 AM
personally wouldnt consider kendrell bell as a bust

While in the black and gold he put in some solid work. While on the chiefs now thats another story

Bell is a great player, the problem with him is staying healthy. He had a couple years where he was injured every year. Since then he hasn't been the same. I feel bad for the guy, he's just too injury prone. Some players are like that, they play amazing, but their body can't hold up in the NFL.

lionslicer
01-15-2010, 06:26 AM
Biggest Busts of the Decade
2nd Round (2004) Ricardo Colclough Tusculum
2nd Round (2003) Alonzo Jackson Florida State
2nd Round (2001) Kendrell Bell Georgia
2nd Round (2008) Limas Sweed Texas (Haha, I had to do it. He could turn it around, but I'm not holding my breath)
3rd Round (2008) Bruce Davis UCLA
3rd Round (2006) Anthony Smith Syracuse
3rd Round (2006) Willie Reid Florida State
3rd Round (2007) Matt Spaeth Minnesotta (Waste of a Pick. We've never had any need for him)

Honorable Mention
1st Round (2002) Kendall Simmons Auburn (Not his fault. He would have been much better and still be here if it weren't for the injuries and diabetes that derailed his career to some degree. He was decent for us for a while, but he was an O-Lineman, 1st round pick and you take those guy's to hopefully get a 10 year starter that'll make some Pro Bowls etc. and Simmons didn't.)

Also, Kendrell Bell was by far the biggest "flash in the pan" of this decades picks.



Kendrell Bell and Kendall Simmons are both great players, but they weren't born with NFL toughness. Their bodies just can't hold up in the NFL. They probably didn't drink enough milk when they were kids lol. I guess you can say busts. But I consider Busts as players who were really good in college then in the NFL just plain suck. Neither of them just plain sucked.

We drafted Matt Spaeth because we wanted to get rid of Tuman, but we needed a good strong 2nd tight end for run blocking. And Spaeth is 6'7 and caught a couple touchdowns since he's been here. Not a bust, but not the greatest pick ever.
Most of our 2008 draft is a bust with the exception of Mendy.