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lamberts-lost-tooth
01-19-2010, 02:33 PM
East-West Shrine Practice
Posted Jan 18, 2010


The East-West Shrine game kicked off its first practice Monday.

The quarterback trio of Fordham’s John Skelton, Penn State’s Daryll Clark and Northwestern’s Mike Kafka aren’t at the top (or even the middle) of most mock drafts, but they certainly grabbed the attention of the NFL brass in attendance.

- Skelton possessed the best arm of the trio, and his quick setup and underneath accuracy was stellar. Skelton displayed an effortless throwing motion and had legitimate snap on the out routes.

- Daryll Clark struggled in all facets during the practice, as he was inaccurate on even the shortest of routes, and lacked the arm strength to throw anything deep or even moderate. Clark struggled in his drops, and had major struggles taking routine handoffs from center.

- Mike Kafka showed very good footwork and was accurate on all short to moderate length routes. He was able to put some zip on the football, but failed on a few of his longer throws during skeleton drills.

“I believe my best asset is my arm strength,” the small school star John Skelton said following practice. “I believe I can throw it as well as anyone.”

In any non-contact set of drills, running backs will normally look pretty good. This was certainly the case, as former University of Miami back Javarris James (cousin of Edgerrin) looked nimble in the hole, displayed good hands, and showed a nice burst. Connecticut’s Andre Dixon showed good size, although he appeared to run upright. Tulane’s Andre Anderson showed good footwork, but appeared to lack burst as he was unable to run away from defenders.

As a whole, the East team wide receivers were fairly underwhelming, as none could gather much separation when lined up against corners. The ultra-productive Freddie Barnes showed the best hands of the group, as what you’d expect from a player who set an FBS record with 155 receptions as a senior. Buffalo’s Naaman Roosevelt showed a good ability to run routes, but lacked top-end speed. Michigan State’s Blair White caught every ball that touched his hands but he too lacked suddenness you’d like to see from a big time receiver. Colgate’s Patrick Simonds was a big target at 6’5”, but his play hardly stood out.

Although there doesn’t appear to be an impact tight end on this particular roster, Army’s Ali Villanueva turned heads with his sheer mass as he stood 6’10” and weighs in at 285 lbs. Despite being an extremely large individual, Villanueva showed solid athleticism and good hands. His size alone should garner him some consideration as a late-round project.

There weren’t many one-on-one situations for the East offensive linemen, so it was difficult to tell which player was at fault in some situations. A player that played a near-perfect practice was Iowa’s Kyle Calloway. Calloway lined up at right tackle and stoned every lineman in front of him.

“I think the best thing I offer NFL teams is my versatility,” Calloway said. “I can play anywhere on the right side and I can even play at left tackle or guard.”

The headliner of the defensive ends was certainly Mississippi’s Greg Hardy, who is rated by many scouts as a potential first-round pick. The 6’5”, 270 lb. Hardy looks the part of an every downs defensive end, but he hardly stood out on the first practice day. Ohio State’s Doug Worthington and Connecticut’s Lindsey Witten had many cameo’s in the East backfield during the practice.

Perhaps the most impressive defensive lineman was local UCF product Torrell Troup, who had many scouts taking notice as he was able to get penetration on seemingly every play and dominated the smaller interior offensive linemen. Purdue’s Mike Neal also made plays consistently in the backfield.

“I had the first day jitters,” admitted East All-Star Torell Troup, a senior from nearby UCF. “But it was good to finally get out and hit someone. It’s been a long time since my last game. I was very anxious to start practice.”

Wisconsin linebacker O’Brien Schofield seemingly stole the show at his position as he showed not only great pass rush ability which was expected, but the ability to drop in coverage and make plays. USF linebacker Kion Wilson was also very quick to the football.

The top corner for the East team during this practice session was Clemson’s Chris Chancellor, who did his best Darrelle Revis impersonation. When any of the East receivers were lined up on “Chancellor Island,” they came away with incompletions or were stuck making a tackle. Virginia Tech’s pair of defensive backs Kam Chancellor and Stephan Virgil were stellar as they ran step for step with each of the perspective pass catchers lined up across from them.

http://www.scout.com/2/939066.html

lamberts-lost-tooth
01-19-2010, 02:39 PM
East-West Shrine Practice
Jan 19, 2010

ORLANDO -- It was a padless practice for both sides on Monday at the East-West Shrine Game, but the National Football Post still has plenty to report and break down from the opening day of workouts.

East team

Two up

Purdue DT Mike Neal and Ohio State DL Doug Worthington both made good first impressions on me Monday. Neal is a natural bender who displays an explosive first step and good power on contact, while Worthington looks like one of the most technically sound defensive linemen here. He does a great job staying low and balanced out of his stance while extending his long arms into contact, and even though he might lack ideal bulk to hold up inside at the next level, at nearly 6-5 and 288 pounds, he projects nicely as a potential five-technique guy.

Two down

Two defensive linemen who did not start the week with favorable impressions were North Carolina State’s Willie Young and Connecticut’s Lindsey Witten. Both are tall, long-armed defensive ends who definitely pass the eyeball test walking on the field. But neither is a natural bender, and both struggle to play with leverage and power on contact. Plus, both players are thin in their lower halves and didn’t exhibit the type of athleticism needed to make up for their lack of power/technique.

Small school can sling it

John Skelton, Fordham’s standout quarterback, is a tall drink of water who can really spin the football. He throws a tight, clean spiral even when asked to drive the ball outside the numbers and displays much more polished footwork than expected, generating a lot of power from his lower half once his back foot hits the ground. He isn’t the most gifted athlete and struggles with his accuracy when asked to reset his feet and quickly realign his body into throws, but he has a good physical skill set and looks like one of the more intriguing senior quarterback prospects in the draft.

A rough first go

Penn State quarterback Daryll Clark had a tough time finding any type of a rhythm on Monday. Clark isn’t a real decisive quarterback and struggles to be efficient with the ball when he doesn’t see the throw. But what really puzzles me is how sloppy his footwork can be for such a good athlete. He has a tendency to consistently lose his base in the pocket, and his accuracy suffers because of it.

Penn State pride

One bright spot for Penn State on Monday was tight end Andrew Quarless, who is far and away the most explosive TE on the East roster. His ability to fire out of his stance and get down the seam was a real eye opener, and he definitely looks like someone who can make plays vertically at the next level. The biggest concern I have with him is his awareness off the snap and his ability to consistently get off the ball on time. But overall, it was a productive first day for Quarless.

West team

Small school in a big package

Speaking of productive first days for tight ends, Eastern Washington’s Nathan Overbay had a solid initial practice. Overbay is a big kid who displayed a good feel for coverage, hauling in three tough grabs in practice and being the most productive target in the West passing game. He isn’t an explosive downfield athlete, but he’s a smooth/coordinated route runner who adjusts well to the football and knows how to extend and pluck away from his frame.

Change hurts

Arizona State DE Dexter Davis is trying to prove to NFL teams that he can make the transition to OLB if needed, but it wasn’t a productive start for him Monday. Davis isn’t a gifted athlete to begin with, and he really looked stiff when asked to get a bump on tight ends off the line and play in space. He consistently struggled to stay with BYU tight end Dennis Pitta any time the two were matched up, and he didn’t exhibit the type of fluidity needed to make me feel he can play in space as a 3-4 OLB in the NFL.

Safety dance

Oregon safety T.J. Ward isn’t the biggest or most physical athlete playing the position here, but the guy is an instinctive football player who knows how to decipher information and get after the ball. He displayed impressive bend, footwork and overall fluidity in coverage Monday and has the ability to redirect, accelerate and quickly close on the play. He has a tendency to get caught ball-watching and will take himself out of plays at times freelancing, but he looks like a player at the next level.

Kansas safety Darrell Stuckey possesses an ideal build for the position and showcased some natural closing speed once he got out of his breaks. However, he looked stiff in his drop and struggled to keep his feet under him when asked to click and close on the ball. He’s a safety who has the ability to put himself around the action in the pass game, but he doesn’t look like a guy who will be able to make many plays on the ball the next level.

Utah safety Robert Johnson isn’t a prospect you can get a good feel for without pads on because he’s a big hitter who does a good job closing on the ball and creating collisions on contact. However, the one thing that really stood out to me about the 6-2 safety was how thin he was in his lower half. Johnson possesses stick-like calves, and although he displays good pop when launching himself at receivers in the secondary, he doesn’t look like a guy who will be able to generate much power when asked to break down and tackle inside the box.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/EastWest-Shrine-practice-begins.html

lamberts-lost-tooth
01-19-2010, 02:45 PM
East-West Shrine Practice
Posted Jan 18, 2010


Wisconsin linebacker O’Brien Schofield seemingly stole the show at his position as he showed not only great pass rush ability which was expected, but the ability to drop in coverage and make plays. USF linebacker Kion Wilson was also very quick to the football.

http://www.scout.com/2/939066.html

01/18/10 - East-West Shrine Monday Practice: In linebacker drills, Wisconsin's O'Brien Schofield showed he has a ways to go before owning the fluid movement needed to play in space at the next level.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=78508&draftyear=2010&genpos=OLB



I'm getting mixed reviews for Schofield. I will keep an eye on his practice results and try to sort out how he is doing

lamberts-lost-tooth
01-19-2010, 02:56 PM
IF we dont go with a NT in the first...this is the guy that I have been talking about taking in the 4th round.

Perhaps the most impressive defensive lineman was local UCF product Torrell Troup, who had many scouts taking notice as he was able to get penetration on seemingly every play and dominated the smaller interior offensive linemen.

“I had the first day jitters,” admitted East All-Star Torell Troup, a senior from nearby UCF. “But it was good to finally get out and hit someone. It’s been a long time since my last game. I was very anxious to start practice

supa_fly_steeler
01-19-2010, 03:15 PM
Stefan Virgil is awesome.

Texasteel
01-19-2010, 06:49 PM
I'm getting mixed reviews for Schofield. I will keep an eye on his practice results and try to sort out how he is doing

From what I have seen of Schofield play this year, I would probably lean toward the 1st, but it's best to watch if for ourselves. Then make up our own minds.

St33lersguy
01-19-2010, 07:01 PM
Great oppurtunity to do some scouting. It's the offseason anyway

MasterOfPuppets
01-20-2010, 02:02 AM
Monday, January 18, 2010
First practice sets storylines
By Todd McShay
Scouts Inc.

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The first practice as the teams prepared for Saturday's East-West Shrine Game (ESPN2, 3 p.m. ET) was held on Monday. The players were in shorts and helmets and while there was contact, the real hitting won't begin until Tuesday, when the players put the pads on. There were individual and 7-on-7 drills, as well as team sessions and special teams work.
Here are some of the highlights of Day 1:
East Team



As important as the East-West Shrine Game is, it's the preceding week of practices that can send an NFL prospect's stock soaring or plummeting. ESPN Scouts Inc.'s Todd McShay, Steve Muench and Kevin Weidl will be in Orlando, Fla., blogging live from the practices and offering daily reports on who is doing well and who still has some work to do.



• West Virginia QB Jarrett Brown will not be participating in the Shrine Game after receiving a last-minute invitation to next week's Senior Bowl. His absence opened the door for Penn State's Daryll Clark, who got off to a rocky start. He missed the strike zone on a few routine throws and we were also concerned with his drops and ability to reset his feet when forced to go through his progressions.
• Fordham QB John Skelton and Northwestern QB Mike Kafka both had up-and-down days. Skelton was impressive from a physical standpoint and appears to have the strongest arm of the QBs here this week. Like Clark, though, Skelton had a few issues with his accuracy as a few of his throws sailed on him. Kafka, on the other hand, was by far the most accurate East quarterback on Monday and he put great touch on his passes. The concern with him is his drops. Kafka is trying to transition from playing in a shotgun-heavy attack to a pro-style system and his footwork appeared awkward at times.
• Miami RB Javarris James made one of the better runs of the day. He started to the right and drew the linebackers up by pressing the line of scrimmage before cutting back to the left. He also did a nice job of releasing out of the backfield, squaring up to the quarterback over the middle and snatching the ball out of the air.

O'Brien Schofield is moving from DE to LB and while he showed some promise, he's still very raw.
• Wisconsin's O'Brien Schofield is expected to move from end to linebacker in the NFL and he started making the transition this week in practice. Quickness and straight-line speed do not appear to be an issue. He can close quickly in the short area and he ran with TE Andrew Quarless on one play.
On the other hand, Schofield stumbled once when asked to change directions during bag work and looked stiff in space during the team period. In fact, the East coaching staff lined him up on the inside at times. Additionally, he's clearly a raw linebacker. He is taking too shallow of an angle when asked to drop into the flat, he doesn't time his jumps well in coverage and is taking a split-second too long to locate the ball in run defense. It will be interesting to see how he progresses during the week.
• The 2010 draft class is loaded along the defensive front and the 85th annual East-West Shrine Game has benefited with an unusually strong group, especially at defensive end. The top three end prospects -- Greg Hardy (Ole Miss), Willie Young (NC State) and Lindsey Witten (Connecticut) all hail from the East roster.
Hardy is clearly the most naturally gifted of the bunch. He looks the part at 6-foot-5 and 270 pounds with very good athleticism and functional strength. Unfortunately, Hardy comes with so much baggage (injuries, attitude and work ethic) and has so much room for improvement from a technique standpoint that he might not be among the top five players drafted from this year's Shrine game.
Young flashed his athleticism during team drills, using solid double moves to keep offensive tackles guessing. He is smooth and has a long frame, but Young needs to show more explosiveness during practice this week. If he's going to be a legitimate contributor in the NFL, he should dominate this level of competition.
Witten is the most fluid and athletic of the East defensive linemen. He's also the leanest of the group, though. Witten, who ranked ninth nationally with 11.5 sacks this season, should have a strong showing during one-on-one pass-rushing drills but it will be interesting to see how he holds up physically at the point of attack versus the run. We also want to see how he does as a pass-rusher. Is he able to use his long arms and quick hands to disengage or will he get overpowered?
• There are a few intriguing midround defensive tackles worth watching this week. Granted, the players were practicing in shells, but Purdue DT Mike Neal stood out with one of the quickest first steps of the group. Neal is a bit undersized by most teams' standards, but he will fit well as a three-technique in a Tampa 2 type scheme (Colts, Bears, etc.).
• Virginia DT Nate Collins also showed a quick first step and the ability to disrupt plays in the backfield. He turned in a monster senior season in 2009, which included 10.5 tackles for loss and six sacks. However, he's even smaller than Neal and will struggle to be more than a sub-package player at the next level.
• West Virginia WR Alric Arnett turned in a solid day's work. We were impressed with his quick release and burst off the line of scrimmage. He also showed he can catch balls thrown outside of his frame, but he is a bit tight in the hips and isn't as fluid getting in and out of breaks as we'd like.
• One of the most underrated receivers in attendance is Michigan State WR Blair White. While he isn't the fastest receiver on the field, he makes up for it with sudden route running. White also did a nice job of working back to the quarterback and catching the ball away from his frame.
• Clemson CB Chris Chancellor opened a few eyes on Monday. He appeared smooth in his backpedal and flashed the ability to break on routes. In addition, he displayed adequate ball-skills throughout the afternoon. Chancellor did a good job of sticking with Buffalo WR Naaman Roosevelt on a go route before turning, locating, and high pointing an underthrown ball for an interception during the 7-on-7 portion of practice. He also appeared comfortable and smooth fielding punts during the special teams period.
• While one Chancellor appeared at home in the secondary, another one did not. S Kam Chancellor has a high-cut build and struggles to change directions quickly. He was late breaking on the ball on several occasions when lining up in a center fielder-type role during the 7-on-7s. Chancellor may be better suited to add a few pounds to his 6-4, 230-pound frame and make the transition to outside linebacker.
• Pittsburgh TE Nate Byham isn't exploding out of his breaks, but he's making crisp cuts and getting his head snapped around in time to locate the ball. He's also extending his arms and snatching the ball out of the air instead of allowing it to get to his frame. It comes as no surprise as he shows all the necessary skills to develop into a productive short-to-intermediate receiver when you watch him on film.
West Team

• Keenan McCardell, a former WR who played in the NFL for 16 years, could be seen working with the West's receiving corps during the special teams period of Monday's practice. Washington drafted McCardell in the 12th round of the 1991 draft and he lasted that long because he didn't have elite size or speed. Still, he emerged as one of the best No. 2 receivers in the league thanks in large part to his route running. In other words, you would be hard pressed to find a better mentor/coach for West wide receiver prospects Seyi Ajirotutu (Fresno State), Verran Tucker (Cal), David Reed (Utah) and Emmanuel Sanders (SMU). They paid close attention as McCardell showed them how to get a clean release off the line of scrimmage and set up their breaks.
Of that group of receivers, Sanders created the biggest buzz. He is explosive off the line and tempos his routes well. He consistently separated from coverage during 7-on-7 and team periods. In addition, he displayed strong hands catching the ball away from his frame. Sanders is a bit undersized but he has the burst and ball skills to develop into an effective slot receiver.
• CBs Devin Ross (Arizona) and Brian Jackson (Oklahoma) both had good first days. Ross is well-built, smooth changing directions and closes quickly. His quickness showed up during 7-on-7 and team periods, where he did a nice job of anticipating routes and limiting separation. There is a lot to like about Jackson, too. He runs well for his size (6-2, 205 pounds) and does a nice job of playing the ball.
• BYU TE Dennis Pitta wasted little time in showing why he has the potential to quickly develop into a productive receiver at the NFL level. He used his hands to get a clean release off the line, showed above-average burst, caught the ball in stride and looked smooth turning upfield after the catch during the team period.
• Lonyae Miller's decision to attend the Senior Bowl next week created a roster spot for North Dakota State RB Pat Paschall. The FCS prospect didn't look like a small fish in a big pond. He ran downhill and showed great burst through the hole. Look for his draft stock to rise if he continues to run hard once the pads go on and shows teams he can contribute as a receiver.
• Kansas WR Kerry Meier looks every bit of his 220 pounds and is providing the West quarterbacks with a big strike zone. Meier's experience as a former quarterback was evident throughout the practice and he did a nice job of finding seams in zone looks in particular. He lacks elite speed and explosiveness, but he has the makings of an adequate possession receiver.
• BYU QB Max Hall headlines the crop of West quarterbacks and turned in a solid first day. He is accurate when he throws in rhythm and has an above-average sense of timing. It comes as no surprise that he hooked up with former teammate Pitta on a corner route during the team period. He did a nice job of anticipating Pitta's break and allowed him to catch the ball in stride. Hall appears to lack ideal overall arm strength, which brings up concerns about his ability to push the ball downfield.
• While Hall got off to a strong start, the same can't be said for Kansas QB Todd Reesing. There is a lot to like about Reesing's competitive attitude and ability to create outside of the pocket, but he did little to quiet concerns about his ability to be an effective pocket passer at the next level. First and foremost, Reesing isn't tall enough to scan the field from within the pocket and he struggled to see over the offensive line during the team period of practice. Similar to Hall, he lacks ideal arm strength and it too showed up during the team period.
• At 229 pounds, Oregon State's Keaton Kristick lacks prototypical size for an NFL outside linebacker. It will be interesting to see how well he holds his ground against the run when they put the pads on, but he did a nice job of setting the edge working against 260-pound TE Nathan Overbay during the team period on Monday. He delivered a strong punch and kept Overbay off his frame by extending his arms. Creating this separation also helped him locate the ball.
• Stanford OT Chris Marinelli is not a great athlete but he is technically sound and gets the most out of his physical tools. He takes very good angles as a run blocker and does a good job of setting his hands in pass protection. Marinelli could emerge as a pleasant surprise for a team that takes a chance on him in the later rounds.
Todd McShay is the director of college football scouting for Scouts Inc. He has been evaluating prospects for the NFL draft since 1998. Scouts Inc.'s Steve Muench and Kevin Weidl contributed to this report.
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MasterOfPuppets
01-20-2010, 02:16 AM
Shrine Game weigh-in: East roster

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Shrine-Game-weighin-East-roster.html

Weigh-in notes

• One of the most impressive physical specimens was Virginia Tech safety Kam Chancellor, who measured in at a rocked up 6-3, 232 pounds. After looking at him up close, the guy’s NFL future might be at linebacker, not safety, if he doesn’t perform well in space this week.

• Recently added Penn State quarterback Daryll Clark might have his struggles with accuracy and decisiveness in the pass game, but he can sure win a beauty contest. Clark was one of the most impressive-looking athletes at the weigh-in, regardless of position.

• Connecticut running back Andre Dixon looked undersized and frail as he stood on the stage this morning at 6-feet, 200 pounds. Dixon looks a lot smaller than his frame suggests, and he didn’t seem to have the bulk needed to handle the rigors of running between the tackles at the next level.

Mike NealAPPurdue DT Mike Neal (left, No. 92) will play for the East squad.

• The most impressive looking defensive lineman on the East squad was Purdue DT Mike Neal. Neal measured in just shy of 6-3, but at 298 pounds he’s as well put together at they come. He exhibited a big, broad back, good muscle tone and girth through his upper body and really fills out his frame nicely. The guy looks very powerful and explosive up close, and I’m excited to see how it translates to the field.

• You can really tell Fordham quarterback John Skelton comes from a small school. He’s a 6-5, 244-pound signal caller but doesn’t seem to have fully committed himself to the weight room to this point. He has a lot of room to grow once he gets to the NFL, which should only increase his upside and value.

• There aren’t too many guys out there who can make 277 pounds look as lean as Army tight end/wide receiver/offensive lineman Ali Villanueva. But at 6-9, he does just that. Villanueva has a prototypical basketball frame. He’s tall, long-armed and has the height to put on about 20 pounds of bulk. We know he’s still a long way away, but there’s a lot of upside to his game that has me intrigued.

• Wisconsin defensive end O’Brien Schofield was another big winner at the weigh-in, showing off a chiseled 6-2, 242 pound body. Up close, the guy looks more like a rush linebacker to me, but I think he’s definitely physical enough to earn his keep as a nickel rusher early in his career.

MasterOfPuppets
01-20-2010, 02:34 AM
Pads bring focus on individual battles during Shrine practice
Jan. 19, 2010
By Chad Reuter
The Sports Xchange/CBSSports.com

ORLANDO -- Players donned pads at the East-West Shrine Game practices for the first time Tuesday, with scouts paying particular attention to one-on-one battles.

No matter the scheme, coaches need their players to win individual matchups.

East Practice

It has been a few weeks since many of these players have been able to hit someone. By the end of the East practice, slight contact became big hits. Virginia Tech safety Kam Chancellor put an exclamation point on the morning session by lining up Tulane back Andre Anderson as he ran down the right sideline. Teammates greeted the hit with whoops and a few mid-air hip-bumps.

There was more coaching and drills Tuesday than in some practices, limiting the team scrimmage to the end of the day. The East coaching staff, for example, was working on getting the linebackers to be more patient against the run and preventing big cutback lanes. Coming from NFL coaching staffs, the message they've heard a hundred times before suddenly carries more weight.

The matchup between Ole Miss defensive end Greg Hardy and Indiana tackle Roger Saffold was worth the price of the flight to Orlando. Saffold controlled Hardy in most one-on-one drills, eating up a spin move, turning him and allowing him no space in which to work.

Other matchups in the trenches also piqued scouts' interest. Iowa tackle Kyle Calloway handled N.C. State's Willie Young in a similar fashion. Young's lean 6-5, 250-pound build makes him stand too tall, allowing Calloway to get leverage and anchor on the edge. Young was so anxious to get the edge on Calloway the second time around that he jumped offsides twice.

One end who got the best of his opponent was Connecticut's Lindsey Witten, who was too quick and too strong for Big East foe Kevin Haslam on the right side of the formation. Although Witten is of similar size to Young, and neither is likely to be a top 100 pick, Young plays stronger and quicker because of his quick-twitch movement and better lower-body flexibility.

The East's interior defensive linemen had better luck. Defensive tackles Nate Collins (Virginia) and Mike Neal (Purdue) displayed their strength and quick first step that intrigued scouts all season, beating Clemson's Thomas Austin and Ohio State's Jim Cordle on multiple occasions in drills. Cordle was clearly frustrated after he wound up on his back side on one play. Virginia Tech guard Sergio Render didn't display great feet, either, but handled Neal with a brute anchor, which got strong praise from the coaches.

None of the East quarterbacks, John Skelton (Fordham), Daryll Clark (Penn State) and Mike Kafka (Northwestern), had particularly strong days. Skelton clearly has the best size and arm strength, but failed to hit his target most times. It's difficult for quarterbacks and receivers to get on the same page early in the week, so even though Skelton couldn't connect with receivers downfield, the fact he could drive the ball deep while the Big Ten quarterbacks struggled to do so is still in his favor.

West Virginia receiver Alric Arnett's fluidity, quickness and hands stood out, especially when he lined up against Northwestern cornerback Sherrick McManis. Though the second-team All-Big Ten defender showed he likes to pop pads during wrap-up drills, his struggles staying with Arnett on square-ins and skinny posts was not encouraging.

Receiver Naaman Roosevelt had a solid year at Buffalo (70 receptions for 954 yards and eight touchdowns) even after quarterback Drew Willy left for the NFL, but he lacks the suddenness Arnett shows off the line or separation from his man. Roosevelt's routes have not been crisp and his hands only adequate this week.

Richard Dickson, a tight end from LSU working at fullback, once again proved he can catch the ball as well as anyone here. The problem is that once he gets it, he can't elude tacklers in the open field to make gains after the catch. With only marginal blocking skills, Dickson may have a tough time finding a way onto the field.

West Practice

The West practice started with big hits, and the physical play didn't let up all day. Even teammates were fair game, as UCLA middle linebacker Reggie Carter put a big hit in the hole on fellow former Bruin Ryan Moya, a tight end/fullback prospect.

Another early rude greeting was administered by Oregon State linebacker Keaton Kristick, who pounded the helmet off stationary Utah receiver David Reed over the middle to get things rolling. Kristick is a lean 6-3, 226, but has good coverage skills and makes his presence felt when near the ball.

Arizona State's Dexter Davis continues to fail to impress as he attempts to transition from defensive end to outside linebacker. He couldn't stay with Eastern Washington tight end Nathan Overbay over the middle in one-on-one drills, even though Overbay is not exactly the quickest receiver here. BYU tight end Dennis Pitta also shook Davis off him at the line, easily cruising by him for a throw over the middle.

In an in-state battle, Colorado tight end Riar Geer extended high for a pass down the seam in the same drill against Colorado State safety Klint Kubiak. Geer also looked capable at fullback or moving tight end/H-back, where he'll play at the next level.

The West offensive line won battles of strength in the trenches, but couldn't handle the defensive line in one-on-one pass rush drills. Brandon Carter (Texas Tech) had too much power off the snap for Arizona's Earl Mitchell, and Iowa State guard/center Reggie Stephens anchored well against Mitchell during inside run drills. However, Mitchell and others exposed the heavy feet of Carter and Stephens when given the space. Carter also comes out of his three-point stance (which he didn't use much at Texas Tech) too low, lunging after linebackers and tackles and often losing his balance.

Another Colorado State Ram failing to impress was right tackle Cole Pemberton. He struggled against speed and power in team scrimmage and one-on-one drills, getting beat by defensive ends Jeff Fitzgerald (Kansas State) and Daniel Te'o Nesheim (Washington).

And while Fitzgerald was neutralized by sturdy Stanford right tackle Chris Marinelli on most plays, Te'o Nesheim got off a block from the Cardinal starter (who may be best inside at the next level) during team drills to get after a stretch play run to his side. The former Husky may not have great size (6-3, 250) or speed (4.82), but his strength, hands, hustle and intelligence are all well-known among scouts.

Hawaii center John Estes isn't a household name, lacks size and isn't outstanding in any one area. But the way he stood up and pushed back 6-1, 326-pound Stanford tackle Ekom Udofia and his ability to move his feet to help either guard on double-teams is exactly what teams like to see from a mid-to-late-round center prospect (think Green Bay Packers center Scott Wells).

SMU receiver Emmanuel Sanders is without question the quickest receiver here. He can elude defenders and accelerate quickly after the catch, although he will dance a bit too much at times instead of getting upfield. Though he's only 5-11, 182, Sanders showed himself a willing blocker against a stronger cornerback in Texas Tech's Jamar Wall, staying between Wall and the line all the way downfield. Wall did have one of the more impressive plays of the day later on, leaping high to break up a pass on an intermediate out route.

Sanders' routes weren't always crisp, as he squared off a comeback route which allowed UCLA cornerback Alterraun Verner to jump the play and make the interception. Since receivers aren't typically running out-and-up routes in these drills, corners can squat on patterns, but Verner's five interceptions in 2009 showed he can regularly make plays like these when the ball is in front of him.

But all of the West cornerbacks have problems with recovery speed, which is why they're at the Shrine Game instead of next week's Senior Bowl. When Wall, Verner or Oklahoma's Brian Jackson stick to their receiver and don't fall for double moves, they can be tough to lose. But if they come off a receiver for a moment because of a nice route or misstep, they can't catch up to the play, therefore lacking what scouts call recovery speed. Jackson lost his footing when Verran Tucker from Cal ran an excellent square-in, which isn't surprising since his best moments as a Sooner (and in these practices) came when he used his size and strength to attack his man at the line of scrimmage. Jackson later showed Tucker what it means to be physical, as he knocked him to the ground when the receiver ran into him trying to get full depth on his out route. However, Jackson's secondary coach quickly pointed out that it would have been a pass interference penalty.

Even though all of these corners have issues on certain plays, they possess mid-round value depending on the scheme their future pro team runs. Teams like Green Bay, which relies on press corner play, will value the 6-foot, 203-pound Jackson more than the others. Zone teams will still like a physical corner with good hands and only adequate speed and/or size, like Verner or Wall, because they'll usually have safety help over the top.

That's why the phrase "one man's trash is another's treasure" could be changed to "one scout's free agent is often another's third- or fourth-round value" when speaking of how team draft boards compare come the end of April.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/12809444/pads-bring-focus-on-individual-battles-during-shrine-practice

SteelerNation12
01-20-2010, 04:07 AM
6'10 wow. He is worth a look on size alone. He would be a red zone nightmare if he can catch the ball that is.

lamberts-lost-tooth
01-20-2010, 05:11 AM
From what I have seen of Schofield play this year, I would probably lean toward the 1st, but it's best to watch if for ourselves. Then make up our own minds.

I agree...just very gun-shy about a DE turned OLB. For every Lamar Woodley, there is a Bruce Davis or Alonzo Jackson.:jawdrop:

Texasteel
01-20-2010, 07:18 AM
I agree...just very gun-shy about a DE turned OLB. For every Lamar Woodley, there is a Bruce Davis or Alonzo Jackson.:jawdrop:

Game, Set, and Match. LLT

lamberts-lost-tooth
01-20-2010, 07:31 AM
Game, Set, and Match. LLT

:chuckle::chuckle:

MasterOfPuppets
01-20-2010, 07:01 PM
I agree...just very gun-shy about a DE turned OLB. For every Lamar Woodley, there is a Bruce Davis or Alonzo Jackson.:jawdrop:
but the writing was on the wall about davis before he was drafted. he was pegged for having poor work ethics and he just didn't seem to have the physical tools to match up against tackles..meaning he just didn't look to be very strong.

Aussie_steeler
01-20-2010, 08:45 PM
Mike Band is hanging out at the East/West Shrine Game practices this week. On Monday he got a chance to catch up with some of the prospects. Here's what they had to say...

O'Brien Schofield, LB Wisconsin

How do you feel about the transition from defensive end to linebacker?
I came out here today to show that I can stand up and play on the outside. It's been a great time showing my skills and that I can make that transition. I'm gonna show I'm a coverage linebacker.

What did you measure during the weigh-in?
I measured in this morning at 6'2, 242. I was listed at 250 but I lost weight during the year.

How was today's practice different than at Wisconsin?
The biggest thing I noticed was that these coaches are keeping it simple. They're allowing everyone to understand the situation.

What's your biggest asset when you step on the football field?
I will be able to cover well, man on man and stuff like that.

What scouts have showed interest in you the last few days?
I had interviews from Scouts from Carolina, Chicago, Philadelphia, Kansas City, San Francisco, Washington, Atlanta and New England.

Most of the teams are 43 teams, how do you feel about that?
I'm likely gonna have to stand up and play strong side linebacker and I feel I can work in any scheme. But I would love to put my hand down and just get up and go.



http://draftace.com/blog/interviews/shrinegame.htm

Heres a very good read for you boys. Looks like the scouts have him pegged playing primarily for a 4-3 team.
This might end the debate??

MasterOfPuppets
01-21-2010, 03:26 AM
looks like troup is making himself some money .... i was hoping he might be a 3rd rd option, but he may just shoot up into the 2nd.


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Three days of intense practices at the East-West Shrine Game concluded Wednesday with prospects trying to make a lasting impression before many NFL scouts skipped town for a few days leading into next week's Senior Bowl.

Washington defensive end Daniel Te'o Nesheim continued to impress with his motor, while Penn State tight end Andrew Quarless looked fluid as a receiver and blocked with aggression. South Florida linebacker Kion Wilson was strong as a run-stopper in the middle. But those three solidified reputations they built during their careers.


The following players did the most to enhance -- or hurt -- their draft stocks during this week's practices. For those with disappointing showings, the film from Saturday's game has become all the more critical to be considered for late-round draft status.
Risers

OT Roger Saffold, Indiana
It's hard to argue anyone but Saffold was the best player on the field this week. He was strong, moved his feet well in pass protection and when drive-blocking gave good effort through the end of plays, and was mobile enough to hit targets at the second level. Some scouts will project him inside, but it appears the 3½-year starter at left tackle should at least get a chance to prove he can handle those responsibilities. A third-round selection seems likely for Saffold at this point in the process.

DT Torrell Troup, Central Florida
Playing near his home UCF campus, Troup had his way with Canadian guard Matt Morencie and West Liberty center Ben Staggs in one-on-one drills, using his strength and violent hands to knock them backward or to the side on his way to where the quarterback would be in the pocket. Morencie and Staggs are fair athletes but lack the strength to handle Troup -- they shouldn't worry too much, however, as the Golden Knights' foes found him a tough ask all season long.

WR Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green
With the East quarterbacks lacking great accuracy, Barnes received many chances to show off his ability to catch the ball outside his frame. He extended to snatch a fastball from Fordham's Josh Skelton over the middle, earning affirming nods from scouts watching the play. In contrast to some of the other receivers on the field for the East team, his strong hands and crisp routes were eye-opening to those not familiar with Barnes' game.

WR Verran Tucker, Cal
A hamstring injury ended a promising week for Tucker, who looked quick and sure-handed over the first two days of practice. The 6-1, 194-pounder ran better routes than expected, coming back to the ball and catching from his body. Fellow Pac-10 receiver Terrence Austin took Tucker's spot, and while not very quick off the line, displayed good hands by extending to snatch hot pass over the middle.

C John Estes, Hawaii
Scouts were not surprised when the 6-2, 295-pound Estes had the shortest arm length (30.25 inches) among the offensive linemen. Whether it was getting his hands inside the jersey of UNLV nose tackle Martin Tevaseu or blocking down for one of his guards, the Rainbow Warrior simply went out and did his job on every play. Small but strong and technically sound centers can find a home in the NFL, so expect a team to pick up Estes somewhere in the late rounds.

RB Andre Dixon, Connecticut
There was a bit of a buzz about Dixon this week among scouts, even though he didn't get a chance to really run through tackles here in practice. His strong running has been seen on film, but Dixon also showed quick feet to elude defenders in the hole and on the outside after the catch. Saturday's Shrine Game should be a good arena in which to display his skills.

FS Kam Chancellor, Virginia Tech
Physically imposing at 6-3, 232 pounds, Chancellor looks the part of a potential starting free safety. There will be inevitable comparisons to former Hokies safety Aaron Rouse, a third-round pick of the Green Bay Packers and current starter for the Giants. Chancellor was willing to be physical this week and showed the range to close on out routes.

OG Brandon Carter, Texas Tech
His 6-5, 326-pound frame is formidable, as are his all-over body tattoos, but Carter's strength and relatively quick feet (for his size) were as good live as they appeared on film. His strong punch off the snap will impress offensive line coaches, and he is able to get out to the second level. One point of emphasis those coaches will have, however, is for Carter to get his head up when on the move -- he will lose his balance by staying low coming out of his stance.

OG Marshall Newhouse, TCU
He lined up all along the offensive line this week, turning his man out of the hole, setting quickly in pass protection and generally out-working his man whether playing inside or outside. The 6-3, 326-pound former Horned Frog projects to guard at the next level, but scouts value his versatility to slide over to either tackle spot if needed.

TE Riar Geer, Colorado
His hands down the seam and blocking on the line displayed an all-around game teams like in a reserve tight end, making him a nice late-round pick. Although not perfect as a receiver this week, he displayed the ability to move the chains and get past safeties down the middle. Against Northern Iowa end James Ruffin, Geer was strong enough to hold up Ruffin and step inside him to get the correct angle for the between-the-tackle run to the other side of the formation.
Fallers
East Defensive Ends
The group failed to stand out this week. Ole Miss' Greg Hardy occasionally flashed, showing quick hands or a strong bull rush. But for the most part, he found it difficult to beat Tennessee tackle Chris Scott or Saffold in team scrimmages and one-on-one drills. Hardy even lined up inside but A.J. Trump shut him down, anchoring and stopping a spin move cold. LSU's Rahim Alem, Connecticut's Lindsey Witten and N.C. State's Willie Young all had troubles bending off the edge because of their stiff hips. Witten was the best of the group, but tackles Mike Neal (Purdue) and Nate Collins (Virginia) looked just as fluid running between and punching football dummies in drills. All three also had issues getting off blocks or using the speed rush against Scott, Saffold and even Iowa's Kyle Calloway.

FBS quarterbacks
It's not likely any quarterback in Orlando improved his stock. Fordham's John Skelton, though struggling with accuracy, was the most physically impressive and threw with velocity the others couldn't; Matt Nichols (Eastern Washington) looked a bit overwhelmed against the competition but has good enough size, arm strength and footwork to get calls from teams on Draft Saturday either as a late-round pick or to convince him to attend their training camp. Major-conference signal callers Mike Kafka (Northwestern) and Max Hall (BYU), however, maintained their status as solid college quarterbacks with moxie but lacking the arm strength to stretch the field. Todd Reesing (Kansas) measured 5-10 for scouts on Monday and did not display the arm or accuracy to make up for it. Daryll Clark (Penn State) looked like a thrower instead of a quarterback, appearing stiff and constantly shorting throws longer than a few yards.

WR Pat Simonds, Colgate
The 6-6, 229-pound receiver had a tough week, dropping passes and failing to prove himself quick enough to separate from NFL defensive backs. His feet can be quicker than you would think for his size, as he ran a nice intermediate comeback route -- but he wound up dropping the low throw because he has a tough time getting down due to his height.

CB Sherrick McManis, Northwestern
McManis left Shrine Game practices after Tuesday with a hamstring injury. It was clear he wasn't 100 percent this week, and he struggled throughout practices to keep his feet and close. Pittsburgh's Aaron Berry took his place, but didn't look a lot better. He knocked away a pass on the first play he entered, but when off the line he lacked the closing speed to be effective.

WR Naaman Roosevelt, Buffalo
Though a productive receiver for the Bulls, there's no one part of his game he could hang on hat on this week. Roosevelt did not show explosiveness, crisp routes or solid hands, catching too many passes against his body. He has yet to get an invitation to the Scouting Combine, and his performance this week didn't help his cause.

OLB O'Brien Schofield, Wisconsin
The first-team All-Big Ten pick popped off film this season but couldn't make much headway as a linebacker or defensive end in practices this week. He was trying to learn the linebacker position on the fly, but looked stiff and slow in his drops and in coverage. In one-on-one pass rush drills, he couldn't stay off the ground when trying to beat Saffold or Scott with his speed. Arizona State's Dexter Davis also struggled with the move from end to linebacker, especially in coverage.

DE James Ruffin, Northern Iowa
It's not that Ruffin looked terrible this week, but his inability to stand out in any way is telling. FCS players need to make names for themselves in all-star games, and Ruffin couldn't get off the ball fast enough or display the strength and hands to get off blocks. Though still a draftable prospect, his upside appears limited.

G Cord Howard, Georgia Tech
A powerful player, Howard had a tough time with speed in one-on-one drills all week and also failed to get off the snap in a timely fashion. Even East coach Romeo Crennel told the second-team all-ACC pick he was too slow off the ball during a drill Wednesday. He'll need to work on his footwork before his pro day, or if he gets a late Combine invite.

CB Jamar Wall, Texas Tech
Early on, it looked as though Wall could be among the better players in Orlando. But he has not been able to stick with receivers on out routes or deep balls down the sideline. In red-zone drills, he also gave up position to receivers and did not display great recovery speed -- and when he did manage to reach in front of the receiver without interfering, he couldn't knock the ball away.

Chad Reuter is a Senior Analyst for NFLDraftScout.com, distributed by The Sports Xchange.

revefsreleets
01-21-2010, 10:05 AM
WR Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green
With the East quarterbacks lacking great accuracy, Barnes received many chances to show off his ability to catch the ball outside his frame. He extended to snatch a fastball from Fordham's Josh Skelton over the middle, earning affirming nods from scouts watching the play. In contrast to some of the other receivers on the field for the East team, his strong hands and crisp routes were eye-opening to those not familiar with Barnes' game.

I've seen this kid play 4 times in person, and he's the real deal. He's raw, and needs some coaching, but he has all the tools to succeed at the next level. He's deemed to be perhaps a step slow, but they said the same thing about Jerry Rice. He caught 155 passes last year....that's NOT a typo, that wasn't over 3-4 years, that was ONE HUNDRED FIFTY FIVE receptions in 2009.

The one indicator that seems to be the best for ability to separate at the next level is YPC, and his is a tad low at 11.4 in '09 (11.07 career), but when you catch THAT many passes, it's bound to ding your stats a tad...BGSU also runs a ton of short passing routes, so there's that as well.

We have an opening at WR, and I'd love the Steelers to take a look at this kid to fill it.

MasterOfPuppets
01-21-2010, 10:34 AM
the thing that REALLY impresses about barnes is that the defenses knew the ball was going to him and still couldn't stop it. dude had 17 rec for 219 yds and 3 tds in the humanitarian bowl.

revefsreleets
01-21-2010, 10:58 AM
He single-handedly handed my Zips their ass this year, catching 12 balls for 200 yards and 2 TD's. They did everything they could to try and stop him.

MasterOfPuppets
01-21-2010, 11:09 AM
i just wonder how much level of competition has to do with it. the best team they faced all year was boise and he only had 4 rec for 24 yds.

lamberts-lost-tooth
01-23-2010, 06:47 AM
looks like troup is making himself some money .... i was hoping he might be a 3rd rd option, but he may just shoot up into the 2nd.

That sucks...I had him as a 4th rounder...but as I has said before, he was my third favorite NT in this draft.

MasterOfPuppets
01-23-2010, 08:40 AM
That sucks...I had him as a 4th rounder...but as I has said before, he was my third favorite NT in this draft.

well from the very little coverage i could find of practice, it appears that he and calloway have been the dominant linemen thus far.

MasterOfPuppets
01-23-2010, 08:43 AM
OT Kyle Calloway, 6-6 322, University of Iowa #110 Overall: One of several offensive linemen who have been playing well at the practices, he has started at both left and right tackle, and could be effectively moved inside to guard. Projected 3rd Round

DT Torrel Troupe, 6-3 310, Central Florida #106 Overall: Excellent NT prospect, with good brute strength who can effectively batter double-teams early in games. Has a tendency to wear down, still causes fits for defenders, and is too strong to be consistently singled up. Projected 3rd-4th Round

FS Kam Chancellor, 6-3 232, Virginia Tech #113 Overall: Very physical, big, hard hitter. Has been having decent practices, but is known for the well timed hit and is a solid tackler. Not the speed you like for the deep safety role, but impressive playing the middle and closing. Projected 3rd-4th Round

Star-divide

OG Mitch Petrus, 6-3 315, Arkansas #124 Overall: Good guard prospect with exceptional pulling ability and quickness. Very reliant on turning defenders for the advantage, and can struggle with straight on bull rushes. Projected 4th Round

OG Brandon Carter, 6-6 326, Texas Tech #146 Overall: Big, physical mauler with a strong hand punch and nice, quick feet. Played at RG, and sustains his blocks well. Projected 4th-5th Round

OT Rodger Saffold, 6-5 312, Indiana #93 Overall: Has started at tackle, and has the quick feet and balance to make a stab at it in the NFL, but may be a better prospect inside. One of the best players so far in the Shrine practices. Projected 4th-5th Round

WR Freddie Barnes, 6-0 212, Bowling Green #149 Overall: Broke numerous records at Bowling Green, and has taken advantage of the erratic Shrine Game passers to show that he can catch anything that comes near him. Has practiced impressively, and is moving up the draft board. Projected 5th Round

SS Darryl Stuckey, 6-0 207, Kansas #162 Overall: Great safety player in the mold of David Bruton, someone who isn't afraid to get his hat in the mix, and who is tenacious about bringing down the ball carrier. Actively goes after the ball, developing quickly as a starter, with 2 FFs and 5 INTs his junior year. Projected 5th Round.

TE Andrew Quarless, 6-4 248, Penn State #167 Overall: Underrated blocker who has improved steadily in that area, and who makes an impact when given receiving opportunities. That growth is evident so far in the Shrine practices. Some character issues in 2007 and 2008. Projected 5th Round

RB Andre Anderson, 5-11 205, Tulane #203 Overall: Plays a patient style, has been effective running behind FBs and pulling guards, does a little of everything, including blocking, catching out of the backfield, and lining up as a WR. Projected 5th-6th Round

WR Alric Arnett, 6-2 183, West Virginia #206 Overall: He has been an effective target for WV, and all through the practices he has shown great route running, good hands, and solid speed. Will start climbing boards if it carries over into the game. Projected 6th Round

DT Nate Collins, 6-2 279, Virginia #205 Overall: An undersized DE prospect, would occupy more of a situational role in trying to split double teams. Plays with great leverage and strength, and has been impressive on the practice field. Not a perfect fit for Denver, but hard to ignore his production. Projected 6th Round

QB John Skelton, 6-5 244, Fordham #195 Overall: The good news is that Skelton has stood out at the Shrine practices. He clearly has the strongest arm of the group, and is more accurate, but not impressively so. Gametime will be a good time to watch him, since it usually takes the QBs and WRs a little while to get on the same page at these all-star games, but so far Skelton isn't hurting himself. Projected 6th Round

ILB Reggie Carter, 6-0 238, UCLA #197 Overall: A hard hitter and good tackler, he has been called a "tone-setter" by scouts at the practices. Reminds me very much of Wesley Woodyard, with the same nose for the ball, but more of a penchant for causing fumbles, and an even better tackler. Will play with emotion, and is tough. Projected 6th Round

OG Marshall Newhouse, 6-3 326, TCU #225 Overall: Big guard who pulls well and is adept at turning defenders. Playing well in the practices at G, and was moved around a little to see how he adjusted. Has the versatility to play outside on either side as well, making him extremely valuable. Projected 6th-7th Round

OT Chris Marinelli, 6-7 300, Stanford #226 Overall: Has flashed at practice but has not been consistent, and his draft stock may be dropping. Another versatile player who met with Denver scouts earlier in the year. His latest performance has been disheartening, but there is still gametime to make it right. Projected 6th-7th Round

OG Thomas Austin, 6-3 315, Clemson #311 Overall: Moved to center late in his career, he saw his draft stock take a hit, only to see it go up again based on his performance, and trek right back down again when he was moved back to left guard to finish up his senior season. While he was a center, he was often ranked at the top of the center lists, sometimes as high as #1, but his move back to LG has threatened him with obscurity. He played inconsistently there as of late, but has practiced well so far at the Shrine game. A good project with nice measurables and a good blend of versatility. Projected 7th Round.

WR Seyi Ajirotutu, 6-3 211, Fresno State #237 Overall: I first noted this big receiver at Boise State before he transferred to get more playing time. The result was great production and a surprising deep threat. I'll be watching his timed speed at the combine closely, but he has a deceptive speed going for the deep ball. He has turned heads at the Shrine practices,and Schottenheimer made a point of comparing him to SD's current big WR corp. Legedu Naanee, another BSU recruit, took a little time to develop in SD, but the results were worth waiting for. Seyi may be the same story. Projected 7th Round.

WR Emmanuel Sanders, 5-11 182, Southern Methodist # 323 Overall: Has had a few bad moments in practice, and has an unnerving habit of trying to test the lateral waters before getting upfield, he has nonetheless proven to be a solid all around WR, effectively blocking downfield and laying out for errant passes. Hasn't kept his routes as crisp as scouts would like to see, given that the DBs all pretty much know what is coming, but has gotten a few guys to "yo-yo" (think Eddie Royal double move on Hall). Could have a big game on Saturday, and is clearly the fastest WR on the field at the Shrine game. Projected College Free Agent.
College Free Agents of Interest

DT Ekom Udofia: He probably won't play much tomorrow, but he is a big kid (6-1 326) who might be able to transition to NT with time. He is recovering from a fractured ankle, so if he plays well, it should be telling.

QB Matt Nichols: While the Shrine QBs have generally been less than inspiring, Nichols has gotten more and more comfortable as each day passes. While the "top school" guys ahead of him struggle, this Eastern Washington University product has gotten more confident, and is showing that he has the better arm, better size and better accuracy. He is worth watching when he gets his chance to come into the game.

SS Klint Kubiak: Not a particularly talented prospect, I just thought the coloradoans and Kubes fans would want to here what he is up to. This is essentially a last gasp for him, and if he plays well, he could still earn a combine invite, despite a bad luck history with injuries. What I found interesting was how excited he was when he learned he got the invite... His dad must be helping him sort out what matters from what doesn't, and if Kubes thinks that the Shrine game matters, than it might speak a bit to where pros rank it. Interesting to think about...

TE Riar Geer: A Colorado Buff this time, Greer has been impressing in practice with his solid blocking. He is also a decent receiver, and would make a solid reserve prospect. Where he seems to have impressed the most is in effectively holding up and anchoring against good, heavy outside pass rushers, no small feat. If he keeps it up he may just find his way into the draft.
Sleeping Beauty

DT Martin Tevaseu, 6-1 329, UNLV #461 Overall: This kid really seems like he might have the special something. He managed to come down from 420 pounds and earn a scholarship, playing at 335 for UNLV. His Dline coach Andre Patterson (used to be the Broncos Dline coach) realized that the kid could do something special, and convinced him to train to be a NT (he was originally a penetrating havoc-wreaker). Martin had taken on double teams all the time, so the transition was a simple one for him. Fast forward to the shrine practices, and he is playing his heart out, pushing top quality olinemen back, and improving daily on his hand technique. The result? Marty Schottenheimer took the time to meet up with Tevaseu in the parking lot after a long day:

lamberts-lost-tooth
01-23-2010, 09:33 AM
well from the very little coverage i could find of practice, it appears that he and calloway have been the dominant linemen thus far.

NT Torrel Troupe, OT Kyle Calloway, OT Rodger Saffold, and QB John Skelton, are the 4 that intrique me the most at this point.

lamberts-lost-tooth
01-23-2010, 03:01 PM
Game is starting...on ESPN2!!!!

MasterOfPuppets
01-23-2010, 04:08 PM
well....the qb's in this game are garbage...:doh:

taztroy43
01-23-2010, 05:34 PM
FS Kam Chancellor is looking pretty good...

MasterOfPuppets
01-24-2010, 02:15 AM
Top performer: Rodger Saffold, OT, Indiana

Saffold was not only the most agile pass blocker all week, he also showcased impressive bend, footwork and overall base strength when asked to anchor on contact. He looked natural sliding his feet, mirroring in space and using his quick hands to gain inside leverage and keep his side of the pocket clean. Plus, he displayed above-average range when asked to pull on the outside and exhibited some initial pop as an in-line run blocker. Saffold has definitely elevated his stock in my eyes and grades out as someone who has the ability to develop into a starting-caliber tackle.

Top wideouts

Emmanuel Sanders, SMU

Emmanuel SandersAPSMU WR Emmanuel Sanders

Sanders played at another speed all week, consistently and quickly eating up the cushion off the line, creating separation out of his breaks and tacking passes vertically down the field. Plus, he does a much better job adjusting to the football than given credit for and, although he lacks size, he has some fight to him when asked to block in the run game. He looks like a guy who can create plays down the field from the slot in an NFL offense.

David Reed, Utah

There isn’t much flash to his overall game, but Reed is a coordinated wideout who does a nice job maintaining his balance and accelerating initially out of his breaks. He showcased an ability all week to create separation for himself in one-on-one situations and possesses a good combination of quickness and savvy in the pass game. You can definitely see a little of the Giants’ Steve Smith in his game.

Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green

Is Barnes someone who will consistently be beat man coverage on the outside and escape press vs. physical NFL corners? No, but he’s a well-built kid with good body control who does a great job gaining initial separation and plucking the football. He’s not a guy who will ever be a star in the league, but if you need a wideout who can come into a game as a sub-package receiver and move the sticks from the slot, Barnes is your man.

Didn’t meet the mark

OT Chris Marinelli, Stanford

Chris MarinelliAPStanford OT Chris Marinelli

After watching Marinelli in practice, I simply didn’t see type of initial burst from him off the edge to make me think he has the ability to consistently set vs. NFL-caliber rushers. He struggles to keep his base down on contact, can be overwhelmed at the point and isn’t an efficient puncher. Overall, Marinelli was beaten with speed, power and quickness this week and looks like a guy who will end up having a tough time making an NFL roster as a tackle.

OG Thomas Austin, Clemson

One common trait in Austin that kept showing up in my notes this week was “no base” or “lacks anchor strength.” Austin was routinely exposed vs. the bull-rush and doesn’t possess the lower body strength to consistently hold the point of attack. And it isn’t even that he plays overly high or struggles to bend. He exhibits a pretty good pad level on contact, but he lacks ideal strength through his base.

Time to re-evaluate

If an offensive guard at next week’s Senior Bowl gets hurt, I would really like to see Texas Tech’s Brandon Carter get thrown into the mix in Mobile, Ala. Carter played much better than I anticipated this week, showing good anchor strength inside with an ability to engulf opposing linemen on contact. He still doesn’t showcase much explosion off the snap in the run game and has tendency to roll his way out of his stance, but when he’s able to get his hands on defenders initially off the snap, something he wasn’t asked to do often in the Texas Tech offense, he can be very effective.

Good work by VT’s Chancellor

Thinking back to the 2007 Senior Bowl, I can remember former Virginia Tech safety Aaron Rouse being applauded time and again for his ability to press and reroute receivers off the line, especially in goal-line situations. Fast forward to this week at the East-West Shrine Game, where another former Virginia Tech safety, Kam Chancellor, also did an impressive job using his long, physical frame to bump receivers/tight ends and quickly find the football. Chancellor really did a number on Freddie Barnes on one occasion, absolutely manhandling him off the line, then followed that up with another physical bump on tight end Nate Byham before using his length and size to knock away the ball. My point: There’s no doubt Chancellor has the size, straight-line speed and physicality to play at the next level. But the team that drafts him needs to allow him to play to his strengths – near the line of scrimmage where he can play with his hands -- and not ask him to consistently redirect vs. NFL receivers in space. Like Rouse, he simply won’t be able to hold up.

taztroy43
01-24-2010, 02:40 AM
Top performer: Rodger Saffold, OT, Indiana

Saffold was not only the most agile pass blocker all week, he also showcased impressive bend, footwork and overall base strength when asked to anchor on contact. He looked natural sliding his feet, mirroring in space and using his quick hands to gain inside leverage and keep his side of the pocket clean. Plus, he displayed above-average range when asked to pull on the outside and exhibited some initial pop as an in-line run blocker. Saffold has definitely elevated his stock in my eyes and grades out as someone who has the ability to develop into a starting-caliber tackle.

Top wideouts

Emmanuel Sanders, SMU

Emmanuel SandersAPSMU WR Emmanuel Sanders

Sanders played at another speed all week, consistently and quickly eating up the cushion off the line, creating separation out of his breaks and tacking passes vertically down the field. Plus, he does a much better job adjusting to the football than given credit for and, although he lacks size, he has some fight to him when asked to block in the run game. He looks like a guy who can create plays down the field from the slot in an NFL offense.

David Reed, Utah

There isn’t much flash to his overall game, but Reed is a coordinated wideout who does a nice job maintaining his balance and accelerating initially out of his breaks. He showcased an ability all week to create separation for himself in one-on-one situations and possesses a good combination of quickness and savvy in the pass game. You can definitely see a little of the Giants’ Steve Smith in his game.

Freddie Barnes, Bowling Green

Is Barnes someone who will consistently be beat man coverage on the outside and escape press vs. physical NFL corners? No, but he’s a well-built kid with good body control who does a great job gaining initial separation and plucking the football. He’s not a guy who will ever be a star in the league, but if you need a wideout who can come into a game as a sub-package receiver and move the sticks from the slot, Barnes is your man.

Didn’t meet the mark

OT Chris Marinelli, Stanford

Chris MarinelliAPStanford OT Chris Marinelli

After watching Marinelli in practice, I simply didn’t see type of initial burst from him off the edge to make me think he has the ability to consistently set vs. NFL-caliber rushers. He struggles to keep his base down on contact, can be overwhelmed at the point and isn’t an efficient puncher. Overall, Marinelli was beaten with speed, power and quickness this week and looks like a guy who will end up having a tough time making an NFL roster as a tackle.

OG Thomas Austin, Clemson

One common trait in Austin that kept showing up in my notes this week was “no base” or “lacks anchor strength.” Austin was routinely exposed vs. the bull-rush and doesn’t possess the lower body strength to consistently hold the point of attack. And it isn’t even that he plays overly high or struggles to bend. He exhibits a pretty good pad level on contact, but he lacks ideal strength through his base.

Time to re-evaluate

If an offensive guard at next week’s Senior Bowl gets hurt, I would really like to see Texas Tech’s Brandon Carter get thrown into the mix in Mobile, Ala. Carter played much better than I anticipated this week, showing good anchor strength inside with an ability to engulf opposing linemen on contact. He still doesn’t showcase much explosion off the snap in the run game and has tendency to roll his way out of his stance, but when he’s able to get his hands on defenders initially off the snap, something he wasn’t asked to do often in the Texas Tech offense, he can be very effective.

Good work by VT’s Chancellor

Thinking back to the 2007 Senior Bowl, I can remember former Virginia Tech safety Aaron Rouse being applauded time and again for his ability to press and reroute receivers off the line, especially in goal-line situations. Fast forward to this week at the East-West Shrine Game, where another former Virginia Tech safety, Kam Chancellor, also did an impressive job using his long, physical frame to bump receivers/tight ends and quickly find the football. Chancellor really did a number on Freddie Barnes on one occasion, absolutely manhandling him off the line, then followed that up with another physical bump on tight end Nate Byham before using his length and size to knock away the ball. My point: There’s no doubt Chancellor has the size, straight-line speed and physicality to play at the next level. But the team that drafts him needs to allow him to play to his strengths – near the line of scrimmage where he can play with his hands -- and not ask him to consistently redirect vs. NFL receivers in space. Like Rouse, he simply won’t be able to hold up.


I agree w/ that assesment of Chancellor....@ the next level its a whole different ball game......:thumbsup:

revefsreleets
01-25-2010, 10:15 AM
I'd almost say try and get Chancellor to gain some weight and look at him as an OLB...He looked solid, and there's no doubt he can hit, but the comparison to Scott Shields comes back to me again.

El-Gonzo Jackson
01-26-2010, 02:07 AM
NT Torrel Troupe, OT Kyle Calloway, OT Rodger Saffold, and QB John Skelton, are the 4 that intrique me the most at this point.

In the game Saffold showed athleticism, good knee bend and quick feet, but looked like he needs more sand in the pants vs a bull rush.

Troupe definately looked like a force that gets upfield and disrupts rush lanes. Probably helped his draft stock out well.

Calloway looked to lock everthing down well in pass protection and get push in the run game. For a guy that is 6'6"....he looks like a short and thick kid that will move inside to guard, but it might have been the equip he was wearing.

Mike Tepper OT-Cal. impressed me(as a RT only) He looked massive and rangy, finished his blocks with a nasty streak, but didnt have great feet. Kind of a young version of Jon Runyan is what he reminded me of. maybe a good 5th round RT.