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mesaSteeler
01-27-2010, 04:17 PM
Steelers meet with big lineman at Senior Bowl
January 27, 9:04 AMPittsburgh Sports Examiner
Matt Pawlikowski
http://www.examiner.com/x-2703-Pittsburgh-Sports-Examiner~y2010m1d27-Steelers-meet-wih-big-lineman-at-Senior-Bowl

The Senior Bowl preparations are under way, and players are trying to make their impressions on NFL coaches, including the Steelers.

"Practice was a little bit better today, certainly compared to yesterday," Dolphins coach Tony Sparano said. " I thought we had a good day out there and got better in certain areas. Guys are excited about it and that's all we can ask right now. They are doing a nice job with the installation [of the game plan] and have gotten better each day,"

Already, according to two sources at the bowl, the Steelers have held meetings with two players. The first being Idaho guard Mike Iupati.

The 6-5, 325 pound Iupati earned consensus All-American honors this season after being named to the first team by the Associated Press, Walter Camp, American Football Coaches Association and the Football Writers Association of America.

An Outland Trophy finalist and first team All-WAC selection, Iupati helped the Vandals claim just the second bowl victory in program historyóa 43-42 win over Bowling Green in the Humanitarian Bowl. He didnít allow a single sack all season and graded out at 90 percent or better in all 13 games.

The team also met with Michigan State kicker Brett Swenson. The 5-7 kicker,is MSUíS all time leader in field goals (70) points scored (370) and extra points. He is also known for kicking it deep into the endzone.

Swenson has kicked in poor weather environments, and considering his accuracy if the Steelers decide to bring him in, the status of Jeff Reed could be in question.

More coming as the week progresses.

steelreserve
01-27-2010, 04:22 PM
Now, I wonder just how many people thought this thread was going to be about Terrance Cody? :scratchchin:

Psyychoward86
01-27-2010, 04:24 PM
Im liking these kids. If Jeff gets released, this Swenson guy seems like exactly the type of guy that we want. Kicks like a gem in crappy conditions and great on kickoffs. I gotta give the two a thumbs up for our possible draft scenarios.

steelerdave1969
01-27-2010, 04:31 PM
I love the big OG Mike Iupati from Idaho. He is a beast and they, the coaches at the Senior Bowl are also working him some at OT. Seems to me like he is better suited for G but with some work and he could be good to go. I think he could play G his first couple years and maybe take Max Starks place in about 3 years at LOT. As far as a Kicker, I hope we can keep what we got, we know Reed can kick at Heinz Field and this other guy we dont know how he will perform with the way the winds are in that stadium.

Merchant
01-27-2010, 04:59 PM
I've heard about this guard. Lot of good reviews so far. But I don't think guard is one of our primary concerns and I doubt he would fall to the rounds where we would be addressing that position.

supa_fly_steeler
01-27-2010, 05:05 PM
i dont want this guard. i want earl thomas i'll keep on saying it until we draft either one and then soon get over my frustration after the draft

devilsdancefloor
01-27-2010, 05:11 PM
the big man who signs checks wants to run the ball more effectively so we go Oliner in the first. Unless mcclain or thomas are there.

Northside Jonny
01-27-2010, 05:31 PM
the big man who signs checks wants to run the ball more effectively so we go Oliner in the first. Unless mcclain or thomas are there.

It makes good sense! I sure hope if Thomas is there we get him instead. Guess this means unless he (thomas) knocks their socks off at the combine steelers FO ain't movin anywhere. Bright side Iupati is a definate upgrade! :hatsoff:

Shoes
01-27-2010, 05:47 PM
I'm sure Ben and Mendy would like this out in front of them.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z211/vestkap/MikeIupati.jpg

MasterOfPuppets
01-27-2010, 05:52 PM
i want iupati.....people smirked at me here for suggesting a guard in the first round a few weeks ago. ...this guy would go a long way in fixing the 3rd and short problems they've had for the last few years ...:popcorn:

groundhogday
01-27-2010, 06:05 PM
I am beating the drum pretty loudly for Iupati. Bulaga would also be a good option but Iupati would start from day 1 on our line.

mulldog24
01-27-2010, 06:18 PM
I would love to see Iupati in the black and gold!!!! Needless to say our short yardage and goal line runs will improve.

Psyychoward86
01-27-2010, 06:18 PM
Lupati and kemo at guard? Talk about a pair of bulldozers :jawdrop:

SteelerFanInStl
01-27-2010, 09:25 PM
i want iupati.....people smirked at me here for suggesting a guard in the first round a few weeks ago. ...this guy would go a long way in fixing the 3rd and short problems they've had for the last few years ...:popcorn:

I'd be happy with that pick. After watching the Steelers not help their OL problems the last two years in the draft, he'd be a great fit at RG and would certainly help the running game.

MasterOfPuppets
01-27-2010, 09:50 PM
I'd be happy with that pick. After watching the Steelers not help their OL problems the last two years in the draft, he'd be a great fit at RG and would certainly help the running game. whatcha mean ? :noidea: they willing to pay starks 16 mill for 2 years.... :hunch: ....isn't that enough ?

MasterOfPuppets
01-27-2010, 09:53 PM
Lupati and kemo at guard? Talk about a pair of bulldozers :jawdrop:
they could put iupati on the left side to pick up starks slack and put kemo on the right to strengthen that side for the run game...:thumbsup: ....all they'd have to do then is upgrade hartwig spots next year

steelerdude15
01-27-2010, 10:32 PM
I believe that Kemoeatu's natural position is RG, the Steelers just moved him over to the left side of the line. I say we go with drafting this guy in the first round, he seems to be a good player.

Northside Jonny
01-27-2010, 11:08 PM
Lupati and kemo at guard? Talk about a pair of bulldozers :jawdrop:

Agreed 100% Badazz combo:applaudit:

Psyychoward86
01-27-2010, 11:10 PM
http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=47142


what a coincidence, he even COMPARES himself to our very own Chris Kemoeatu

tyler289
01-27-2010, 11:35 PM
Kemo and Lupati would be a great guard tandem. Would love to see it.

Steeldude
01-28-2010, 12:53 AM
scouts have also said he might be able to play LT also.

i guess it depends on who is left when the steelers pick at 18. if bulaga is still there, i think they will pick him over iupati. this draft is going to be a lot more interesting than last year's.

Aussie_steeler
01-28-2010, 03:53 AM
i dont want this guard. i want earl thomas i'll keep on saying it until we draft either one and then soon get over my frustration after the draft

You will only have to wait till the second where they will draft a FS like Nate Allen.
With the draft being spread over 3 days you will only have one whole day to talk about it until they draft a safety early on day 2.

I think they will pass on Earl Thomas even if he is still there.

In reality if Thomas or Iupati are drafted I cant see how we could lose. Both are great prospects. Thomas projects FS ./ CB whilst Iupati projects OG / OT. IMO its a win-win argument.

Rick5895
01-28-2010, 04:02 AM
Iupati is a beast, every thing I have heard about him indicates he is also being worked out at OT at the senior bowl. I was watching senior bowl practice the last couple of days and they are talking about him dominating all the pass rushers. If he is still there at 18 he might just be the best value pick left.

Galax Steeler
01-28-2010, 05:14 AM
the big man who signs checks wants to run the ball more effectively so we go Oliner in the first. Unless mcclain or thomas are there.

Well said I would like to have Thomas but if we don't get him or Mclain then I would be happy with Mike Iupati. The man is a brute and would be able to push the line when we need him to.

Prok
01-28-2010, 09:31 AM
scouts have also said he might be able to play LT also.

i guess it depends on who is left when the steelers pick at 18. if bulaga is still there, i think they will pick him over iupati. this draft is going to be a lot more interesting than last year's.

Agreed. I'd be happy with whatever direction we go but I'm thinking we NEED to get better on the OL and younger on the DL. I'm hoping we can address CB in FA then we'd be good to go imo.

KeiselPower99
01-28-2010, 09:51 AM
iupati and Kemo as the guards man thos counter plays are gonna look very nice.

lamberts-lost-tooth
01-28-2010, 10:04 AM
Im liking these kids. If Jeff gets released, this Swenson guy seems like exactly the type of guy that we want. Kicks like a gem in crappy conditions and great on kickoffs. I gotta give the two a thumbs up for our possible draft scenarios.

Agreed...Leigh Tiffin is ranked higher as a kicker this year, but it makes sense that Tomlin is looking for a kicker who can handle bad weather.

Prok
01-28-2010, 10:30 AM
Agreed...Leigh Tiffin is ranked higher as a kicker this year, but it makes sense that Tomlin is looking for a kicker who can handle bad weather.

Even if we kept Reed I'd want a kickoff specialist who could actually get the ball to the goal line. I'm hopeful we get a young strong legged kicker. I think ppl make too much out of Heinz poor kicking conditions and wind etc...

casteeler
02-01-2010, 04:30 AM
the thought of drafting a o-lineman makes me happy, just imagine 3rd&3 in the i-formation instead of the shotgun.... who the hell calls shotgun on 3rd& short?

Galax Steeler
02-01-2010, 08:17 AM
who the hell calls shotgun on 3rd& short?

Bruce Arians :chuckle:

pancake
02-01-2010, 02:01 PM
Now, I wonder just how many people thought this thread was going to be about Terrance Cody? :scratchchin:

I was watching ESPN this morning and they said that Cody stock is dropping fast. He might be a 3rd or 4th round pick right now.

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-01-2010, 02:17 PM
I was watching ESPN this morning and they said that Cody stock is dropping fast. He might be a 3rd or 4th round pick right now.

Now, 4th round is a bit shocking to me, but I think if he shows up at the combine at 360lbs or heavier, there will be questions and he will drop out of the 1st round.

I think he might only be in the 2nd round right now. I'd rather have BJ Raji, Ron Brace, Dan Williams on my team instead of Krispy Kreme Cody.

pancake
02-01-2010, 03:59 PM
Now, 4th round is a bit shocking to me, but I think if he shows up at the combine at 360lbs or heavier, there will be questions and he will drop out of the 1st round.

I think he might only be in the 2nd round right now. I'd rather have BJ Raji, Ron Brace, Dan Williams on my team instead of Krispy Kreme Cody.

I was thinking that 3rd and 4th was too big of a drop, but that is what their draft expert was saying. (not Kiper , McShay I think)

Chidi29
02-01-2010, 04:25 PM
the thought of drafting a o-lineman makes me happy, just imagine 3rd&3 in the i-formation instead of the shotgun.... who the hell calls shotgun on 3rd& short?

When it's more effective than your running game in those situations.

Chidi29
02-01-2010, 04:27 PM
Now, 4th round is a bit shocking to me, but I think if he shows up at the combine at 360lbs or heavier, there will be questions and he will drop out of the 1st round.

I think he might only be in the 2nd round right now. I'd rather have BJ Raji, Ron Brace, Dan Williams on my team instead of Krispy Kreme Cody.

Cody's weight isn't an issue. He came into Alabama at over 400 pounds and dropped. He doesn't have any work ethic issues that I know of either. Get him a personal trainer, a dietitian, and he'll be fine.

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-01-2010, 06:05 PM
Cody's weight isn't an issue. He came into Alabama at over 400 pounds and dropped. He doesn't have any work ethic issues that I know of either. Get him a personal trainer, a dietitian, and he'll be fine.

When the guy is too fat to get into the play because 290lb Matt Tennant sealed him off......while 325lb NT Dan Williams is taking an angle of pursuit to get to the RB........IT IS AN ISSUE.

Its the same analogy as why Herman Johnson was an all American OG in college, but could not effectively pull on a long trap in the NFL. Cody needs to play around 340lbs and stay there. I would not touch him until the 3rd round.

markymarc
02-03-2010, 10:06 AM
Cody needs to play around 340lbs and stay there. I would not touch him until the 3rd round.

So would you be happy if the Steelers did pick up Cody in the 3rd round? I just wouldn't be comfortable with the Steelers getting Cody to eventually replace Hampton. I think his weight will always be a problem at the next level and I definitely question his work ethic.

But then again, maybe if a team like the Steelers picked him up they can get him in the right frame of mind to succeed in the NFL.

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-03-2010, 10:28 AM
So would you be happy if the Steelers did pick up Cody in the 3rd round? I just wouldn't be comfortable with the Steelers getting Cody to eventually replace Hampton. I think his weight will always be a problem at the next level and I definitely question his work ethic.

But then again, maybe if a team like the Steelers picked him up they can get him in the right frame of mind to succeed in the NFL.

Its the kind of thing that needs background evaluation and interviews. If the kid doesnt seem to have any attitude issues, but weight is an issue, then maybe a 3rd round pick is worth the risk.

If you think weight and motivation is gonna be an issue, then pass on him altogether and look at Torrel Troup or Cam Thomas instead. I wanted to spend a late pick on Myron Pryor last year as insurance......but the Patriots did it in the 6th instead.

markymarc
02-03-2010, 12:04 PM
Its the kind of thing that needs background evaluation and interviews. If the kid doesnt seem to have any attitude issues, but weight is an issue, then maybe a 3rd round pick is worth the risk.

If you think weight and motivation is gonna be an issue, then pass on him altogether and look at Torrel Troup or Cam Thomas instead. I wanted to spend a late pick on Myron Pryor last year as insurance......but the Patriots did it in the 6th instead.

I am sure Cody is going to get grilled big time in the interviews with teams. And like you stated they will want to know if motivation will be an issue with him or not. To be honest, weight is normally an issue when it comes to the NT position.

I can't wait to see what Cody weighs in at for the scouting combine.

vrabinec
02-03-2010, 01:15 PM
People may have reservations about Cody's weight, but he's a heck of a finisher:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_8YV45pQog&feature=PlayList&p=9A161A598999DB6C&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=6

Guys with his body type sometimes mature physically a year or two later than guys like Williams. IMO, Cody if gonna be a bitch to block. He's huge, he has long arms, he's strong, and he's agile for a huge guy. No way he drops to the 3rd. He may drop to the late first or early second at most.

Prok
02-03-2010, 05:48 PM
When the guy is too fat to get into the play because 290lb Matt Tennant sealed him off......while 325lb NT Dan Williams is taking an angle of pursuit to get to the RB........IT IS AN ISSUE.

Its the same analogy as why Herman Johnson was an all American OG in college, but could not effectively pull on a long trap in the NFL. Cody needs to play around 340lbs and stay there. I would not touch him until the 3rd round.


My thinking is almost the same as yours. But if Cody could drop to the 325 range and stay there i'd prolly spend the 1st rounder on him.

Psyychoward86
02-03-2010, 07:11 PM
why do heavy guys automatically get negative work ethic labels?

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-03-2010, 07:18 PM
why do heavy guys automatically get negative work ethic labels?

There is a difference between "heavy" and "grossly obese". The latter is clearly defined by someone having a big set of man boobs.

Seriously, take a look at Hampton and you see a guy that hits the gym and can move rather well for a guy that is around 320-340lbs. Then, take a look at Cody and you see a guy that at 370lbs, was slowed by Matt Tennant in the Senior Bowl and looked dis-interested in pursuing the play, because it too too much effort.

IMO, a wannabe professional athlete that lets himself go to the point that he could be a contestant on " The Biggest Loser".........will probably get a negative work ethic label that is justified.

Psyychoward86
02-03-2010, 08:32 PM
There is a difference between "heavy" and "grossly obese". The latter is clearly defined by someone having a big set of man boobs.

Seriously, take a look at Hampton and you see a guy that hits the gym and can move rather well for a guy that is around 320-340lbs. Then, take a look at Cody and you see a guy that at 370lbs, was slowed by Matt Tennant in the Senior Bowl and looked dis-interested in pursuing the play, because it too too much effort.

IMO, a wannabe professional athlete that lets himself go to the point that he could be a contestant on " The Biggest Loser".........will probably get a negative work ethic label that is justified.

great points. But i dont think most of these people understand this the way you do.

And also, i gotta say there is a big difference between being in "good shape" and "good football shape." I think we all gotta admit that.

El-Gonzo Jackson
02-04-2010, 11:00 AM
great points. But i dont think most of these people understand this the way you do.

And also, i gotta say there is a big difference between being in "good shape" and "good football shape." I think we all gotta admit that.

That is SO true!! Most dont realize that an OT or DT that try to hit and push another 300lb man 5 yards is exhausting in a different way than a 190lb WR running successive 40 yard post patterns.

Its why I think the most useless stat at the NFL combine is a O linemans 40 yard dash time. If an O lineman ever has to run 40+ yards....its only to chase down an INT.

steelpride12
02-04-2010, 02:04 PM
I want the guard Lupati. He didn't give up a sack all season long and he is just an animal. Watch highlights and watch him man handle the defense. He is the perfect fit for this offense and it just makes sense if he was chosen.
Swensen looks like an awesome choice as well. I like the fact that he is good in the poor weather because Heinz Field can be a rough kicking area for kickers in the NFL, other than Reed who is used to it, but Id give him a chance if Reed continues to demand the money and use the money for more important matters.