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mesaSteeler
02-19-2010, 04:55 PM
Pittsburgh Steelers Team Report
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/steelers/notes.htm

Pittsburgh has one week before it must decide whether to use its franchise or transition tags on one or two of its free agents. The most likely to get the franchise tag is nose tackle Casey Hampton.

While the team's acknowledged top priorities Hampton, free safety Ryan Clark and kicker Jeff Reed cannot become unrestricted free agents until March 5, NFL teams must designate their franchise and transition tags by next Thursday.

"I think there will be time," said Kevin Colbert, their director of football operations. "Right now we're not looking at it as against the clock or anything like that."

Hampton has said he does not want to be the franchise player and will not be happy if the Steelers designate him as such. However, the team may have no choice. Hampton, who turns 33 in September, wants big money and he and the Steelers are not considered to be in the same ballpark on the amount he should be paid.

If they make him their franchise player, his salary cap will be a trifle more in 2010 at $7 million than it was in 2009. It would give them another year to groom or find someone else to succeed Hampton and to assess whether to try to keep him at age 34 in 2011 with all its labor issues looming.

Hampton has said someone in the organization promised not to make him the franchise player. He did not identify who that was, but it seems they will be ready to use it on him if necessary.

"Our stance on the tags is that while we don't like to use them we're never going to say that we're not going to use something that is collectively bargained as a tool in this process," Colbert said.

The team also could tag Reed if they decide not to use it on Hampton or sign him to a long-term contract. Reed's tag would cost them only $2.8 million or much less than the average of $4 million that kicker Sebastian Janikowski just received from Oakland on a four-year contract.

Colbert said negotiations for long-term contracts with each of the three would begin by Feb. 19.

NOTES, QUOTES

Coach Mike Tomlin hired Scottie Montgomery, 31, as his wide receivers coach. Montgomery coached Duke University's wide receivers the past four seasons. He played at Duke and for three seasons with the Denver Broncos.

The Steelers remain reluctant to talk about what happened to WR Limas Sweed, placed on injured reserve for an unknown "illness" late last season that was not physical.

"That's something that will be addressed at the proper time and now's not the proper time," Kevin Colbert said.

RB Willie Parker has been working out in Dallas in preparation for free agency. Colbert said he is among those Steelers veteran free agents who will not receive a contract offer before March 5.

Colbert would not talk about his own contract, which has one year left.

"Anything to do with my personal status I would not talk about it at this point or at any point. That's really not for me to discuss. I'm totally happy in my position at this point, sure."

It long has been rumored that if Bill Cowher took another coaching job, Colbert would join him as GM.

QUOTE TO NOTE: "We will operate as we always have. We will operate as if we have a cap because you don't know what you're going to be dealing with." Steelers football operations director Kevin Colbert on the team's 2010 budget.

STRATEGY AND PERSONNEL

The Steelers signed two more players to contracts, CB David Pittman and LB Renauld Williams. Pittman was a third-round draft pick of the Ravens in 2006 and has little experience. Williams played for the 49ers, Dolphins and the past three seasons in the CFL.

OFFSEASON STRATEGY

First up for the Steelers is to sign a couple of impending unrestricted free agents. The only UFAs they will try to sign before March 5 are Pro Bowl nose tackle Casey Hampton, starting free safety Ryan Clark and kicker Jeff Reed. Reed will be their first priority. If they cannot sign Hampton to a multiple-year deal, they could franchise him. Clark will not be franchised or transitioned and is unlikely to come to terms by March 5.

Two veterans will not get offers before March 5, although the team might be interested in them if they do not get good offers elsewhere. Halfback Willie Parker and cornerback Deshea Townsend have been important members of two Super Bowl champions but they no longer are starters and would have to return as backups.

Starting right tackle Willie Colon will stay a RFA if there is no new CBA and they will issue him a high tender, as they did last season when he first became a RFA.

TEAM NEEDS

1. Offensive line: One reason the Steelers cannot run when they want is the blocking. They get no push from their front line. They have to develop a tackle at the very least and need to find their future centers.

2. Defensive line: They addressed this last year with DE Ziggy Hood in the first round, but they need to restock a line that has grown old. Another end and nose tackle are a must.

3. Defensive backs: With FS Ryan Clark likely leaving as a free agent, they have no one to replace him. Their CBs are below average as well.

MEDICAL WATCH: Two Steelers have had shoulder surgeries since the end of the season. Starting center Justin Hartwig and reserve safety Ryan Mundy underwent the procedures, although no other details on the corrective measures were available.

FRANCHISE PLAYER: None

TRANSITION PLAYER: None.

UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

QB Charlie Batch is a reliable, when healthy, backup and that is the issue because he missed all of 2008 and ended 2009 with a broken wrist. He wants to return.

LB Rocky Boiman was a late edition to try to save their drowning special teams. He's not likely to return.

SS Tyrone Carter won't get a contract from the Steelers again unless he finds nothing from anywhere else.

FS Ryan Clark would like to return and the team wants him back, but they are not likely to settle on a price before free agency begins.

DE Nick Eason, if he's willing to return at a minimum salary, could re-sign.

WR Joey Galloway was a late signing after Limas Sweed was placed on injured reserve. He did not dress for either game and he is not likely to be invited back.

NT Casey Hampton is a priority to keep one way or the other. They will try to negotiate a new deal but it's more likely they will have to put the franchise tag on him.

DE Travis Kirschke, although he turns 36 this year, has been dependable and could re-sign if he does not go elsewhere, especially if they get nothing at the position in the draft.

RB Willie Parker has seen his last days in Pittsburgh. They would love to have him back as a backup to Rashard Mendenhall but he wants more playing time than that.

K Jeff Reed could be their next signing because he not only is a priority, he's the most signable of their free agents.

CB Deshea Townsend thinks he can still start in the league and the Steelers have no plans for him to do that. If he finds nothing of his liking in free agency, they will offer him a contract to return.

RESTRICTED FREE AGENTS (*indicates restricted because of uncapped year)

*OT Willie Colon will be tendered at the highest amount, as he was last season, his third as their starting right tackle.

CB William Gay had a disappointing first season as a starter but not bad enough that they want to lose him.

P Daniel Sepulveda was middle of the road and not likely to receive a high tender. He was drafted in the fourth round.

RB Carey Davis is listed as their starting fullback but rarely played and may not receive a tender.

TE Matt Spaeth is No. 2 behind Heath Miller. He plays a lot but rarely is used as a target and he's not a good blocker.

OG Darnell Stapleton was their starting right guard until an injury put him on injured reserve. Could receive a lower tender.

EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS FREE AGENTS

LB Patrick Bailey was their rookie of the year for his special-teams play in 2008, but dropped off last season.

PLAYERS RE-SIGNED: None.

PLAYERS ACQUIRED

LB Derrick Doggett: CFL FA; terms unknown.

PLAYERS LOST: None.

steelerdude15
02-19-2010, 07:49 PM
Thanks for posting mesa. :thumbsup:
The Steelers remain reluctant to talk about what happened to WR Limas Sweed, placed on injured reserve for an unknown "illness" late last season that was not physical.
I'm really wanting to see what is going on with him. I mean if we lose him it's not that big of a deal because I feel that he's a bust and Wallace is better, but I do want to see what is up with him. I really don't want to see Fast Willie go, but he isn't the same because he's getting older and Mendenhall is the future in our backfield. A little bit more experience and development and I bet he'll be one of the top backs in the league. Getting Hampton back is a important, but how much is he asking for? If Townsend left it wouldn't be that big of a deal because he is older now and can't compete like he used to be able to. Let's get Reed back, he's important down the strecth. This is going to be an interesting offseason I will say that... :tt02:

Galax Steeler
02-20-2010, 04:36 AM
I think they until next week to tag someone so it is fixing to get down to it. Can't wait till free agency starts and see who goes where.

steeltheone
02-20-2010, 11:08 AM
Without Sweed our receiving core is paper thin. I think fans tend to overrate our receivers as a whole. We are good but not great. If sweed would step up that could be what we need.

AllD
02-20-2010, 12:30 PM
Without Sweed our receiving core is paper thin. I think fans tend to overrate our receivers as a whole. We are good but not great. If sweed would step up that could be what we need.



You're joking right?

1. We are the only team in history to have TWO Super Bowl MVP WRs on the same roster.
2. Mike Wallace stepped up and OVER Sweed.
3. Heath Miller

steeltheone
02-20-2010, 02:16 PM
Thru our skid against some of the NFL's best teams ( cough, cough ) our recievers got zero seperation. Wallace has great upside. He is not there yet. Hines is Hines. But he is older and more injury prone. When that happens you have Holmes, awesome at times and Wallace. Noone else. I realize we have Miller.I'm talking recievers. That is thin. Sweeds lack of progress has hurt more than we realize.

steelerdave1969
02-20-2010, 10:05 PM
Without Sweed our receiving core is paper thin. I think fans tend to overrate our receivers as a whole. We are good but not great. If sweed would step up that could be what we need.

I agree about Sweed stepping up and making a difference. But our top 3 WR's are pretty darn good to me. Hines Ward Santonio Holmes and the rookie Mike Wallace were pretty dang good... Just hope that Sweed can get things straightened out in his life and get back on the field.. atleast somewhere.

steeltheone
02-20-2010, 11:19 PM
As i said, good, not great as a whole. need another to make the jump. Another year for Wallace will be great. But Ward is also another year older. Got to have another target.

solardave
02-21-2010, 10:11 AM
Message to Hampton. Get real at 33yrs old you're on the bubble. I know supply and demand. Sign the contract and get back to work!

steelerdave1969
02-21-2010, 04:49 PM
As i said, good, not great as a whole. need another to make the jump. Another year for Wallace will be great. But Ward is also another year older. Got to have another target.

Hines Ward once told John Madden about his speed... " I have never had good speed, so its not like I could lose a step "... Ward will be fine the next couple years as we get Wallace ready and hopefuly Sweed can make a major comeback.. but it wouldnt suprise me at all to see a WR early on in this upcoming draft for the Steelers.

steelerdude15
02-21-2010, 08:23 PM
I don't see us drafting a WR in this draft, it's not one of the top priorities we have this offseason.

Psyychoward86
02-21-2010, 09:52 PM
Without Sweed our receiving core is paper thin. I think fans tend to overrate our receivers as a whole. We are good but not great. If sweed would step up that could be what we need.

WAT

Two superbowl MVP's (Hines' great hands and a future HOF'r candidate, Santonio's clutchness), Mike Wallace (highest yards per catch in the league), Heath Miller (arguably the best at his position, including catching), and Mendy and Moore's catching ability? We're great in the receiving department. But yes, it would help to have some more depth.

No one can replace heath Miller if he goes down, and Hines is on his last legs soon.

Psyychoward86
02-21-2010, 09:53 PM
I don't see us drafting a WR in this draft, it's not one of the top priorities we have this offseason.

The Steelers rarely draft by need, BPA is the way to go, i wouldnt be surprised if we picked up a wide receiver

SteelCitySaltyDawg
02-21-2010, 10:05 PM
I think there could be potential for a WR later in the draft to add some depth..in particular if the team has decided Sweed will not live up to expectations.

I dont know what kind of draft grade these 2 guys are carrying:


Taylor Price ohio
Mike Williams syr

but for 4th or 5th rders I think pit could do well in those rounds with guys like these if they were looking for some depth.

Just got to make sure Williams is gonna be a team player(lots of talent but some character issues)

i personally think Price could be there in the 4th but if he dazzles at the combine he could be gone by the 3rd. just my 2cents.

GBMelBlount
02-21-2010, 10:08 PM
Thru our skid against some of the NFL's best teams ( cough, cough ) our recievers got zero seperation. Wallace has great upside. He is not there yet. Hines is Hines. But he is older and more injury prone. When that happens you have Holmes, awesome at times and Wallace. Noone else. I realize we have Miller.I'm talking recievers. That is thin. Sweeds lack of progress has hurt more than we realize.

These are some good points imo. I wouldn't call it paper thin though. I don't think wide receiver is a priority in the draft.


Psyychoward86

The Steelers rarely draft by need, BPA is the way to go, i wouldnt be surprised if we picked up a wide receiver
As far as drafting BPA, it doesn't always work. Look at our offensive line....it is quite "offensive" imo.

steelreserve
02-22-2010, 04:08 AM
Without Sweed our receiving core is paper thin. I think fans tend to overrate our receivers as a whole. We are good but not great. If sweed would step up that could be what we need.

What are you even talking about? With Sweed's performance so far, he might as well not have even been on the team. What does he have, six catches in two years? We've been managing just fine without him.

No team -- and I mean no team EVER -- has four receivers on the level you're talking about. Even the greatest teams in history have one or two top-level receivers and then a bunch of OK guys scrabbling for the third and fourth spots. You're ALWAYS one or two key injuries away from having question marks at any position. The fourth receiver is about the least thing we need to worry about, and with the top three that we have, we're doing pretty well, thanks. If Sweed works out, that's a nice bonus, but as it stands, probably 90% of the teams in the league wish they had as much talent and depth at WR. Cardinals. That's the only team I can think of that's defintely better 1-3. That's it. Go home.

steeltheone
02-22-2010, 02:05 PM
Eagles ... Jackson, Avant, Maclin, Curtis, R. Brown. Norwood
Steelers...Holmes..Ward..Wallace...???....???? Good recievers, Yes Great Depth?

The greatest teams in history do not play in todays NFL..

steeltheone
02-22-2010, 02:19 PM
NO...Colston..Henderson..meachem..Moore
Indy...Wayne...Garcon..Collie..Baskett..Gonzalez
Minn..Rice...Harvin...Berrian...Lewis

Just sayin...we need a number 4...

steelreserve
02-22-2010, 02:38 PM
NO...Colston..Henderson..meachem..Moore
Indy...Wayne...Garcon..Collie..Baskett..Gonzalez
Minn..Rice...Harvin...Berrian...Lewis

Just sayin...we need a number 4...


Basically, on any of the teams you just mentioned, the fourth receiver is completely replaceable with anyone of even average talent. In some of them, even the second or third receiver is, too.

I don't care how much you're inclined to drool over the Indy Offense Media Hype, but Pierre Garcon, Austin Collie and Hank Baskett are not stars, just average to slightly above average. For New Orleans, your #4 guy Moore had a whopping 153 yards receiving all year. Vikings are solid 1-3, and Lewis, the fourth guy you touted, had all of eight catches for 96 yards.

None of those teams had 1,000-yard guys at the 1-2 spots, and Wallace had better stats than any of the other third receivers. What the hell do you want?

THE FOURTH RECEIVER MATTERS FOR PRECISELY DICK, especially in our system. It's a position where you just get a young guy or a journeyman without spending a lot of money, and hope he's adequate as an emergency fill-in in the event you can't sign a veteran to take over for an injured guy. We don't have an obvious fourth receiver because we don't have much playing time for one anyway. But I'm sure if we needed one, just about anyone could ocme in and catch for a few hundred yards.

No, we don't need a No. 4, and you don't know what you're talking about.

Psyychoward86
02-22-2010, 06:12 PM
steelone, this may shock you, but the ball can also be thrown at tight ends and runningbacks. Dont tell me, that just blew your mind, i know.

steeltheone
02-23-2010, 03:07 AM
steelone, this may shock you, but the ball can also be thrown at tight ends and runningbacks. Dont tell me, that just blew your mind, i know.

If you scrollback in an earlier post i was talking about recievers only. your comment is excused.

steeltheone
02-23-2010, 03:11 AM
[QUOTE=steelreserve;774763]Basically, on any of the teams you just mentioned, the fourth receiver is completely replaceable with anyone of even average talent. In some of them, even the second or third receiver is, too.

I don't care how much you're inclined to drool over the Indy Offense Media Hype, but Pierre Garcon, Austin Collie and Hank Baskett are not stars, just average to slightly above average. For New Orleans, your #4 guy Moore had a whopping 153 yards receiving all year. Vikings are solid 1-3, and Lewis, the fourth guy you touted, had all of eight catches for 96 yards.

None of those teams had 1,000-yard guys at the 1-2 spots, and Wallace had better stats than any of the other third receivers. What the hell do you want?

THE FOURTH RECEIVER MATTERS FOR PRECISELY DICK, especially in our system. It's a position where you just get a young guy or a journeyman without spending a lot of money, and hope he's adequate as an emergency fill-in in the event you can't sign a veteran to take over for an injured guy. We don't have an obvious fourth receiver because we don't have much playing time for one anyway. But I'm sure if we needed one, just about anyone could ocme in and catch for a few hundred yards.

No, we don't need a No. 4, and you don't know what you're talking about.

Ward goes down you are stuck with holmes and Wallace. Wallace is good. Not that good yet.

steelreserve
02-23-2010, 03:30 AM
Ward goes down you are stuck with holmes and Wallace. Wallace is good. Not that good yet.

So? Wayne goes down, and you're stuck with Garcon and Collie.
Moss goes down and you're stuck with Welker and Edelman
Rice (Jerry) goes down and you're stuck with Taylor and Sherrard.
Irvin goes down and you're stuck with Harper and Devin Gainer.
Swann goes down and you're stuck with Stallworth and Jim Smith.

Can you please tell me what the hell your point is? You do not need a fourth receiver; in fact, you're lucky if you even have a third receiver whose name is worth knowing. It'll be good if we can find someone who is adequate at the third spot once Ward eventually retires, but in no way, shape or form could any sane person say anything about next season depends on the performance of Limas Sweed. We're already doing better than average at WR, arguably the best we've been at that position in the history of the franchise, yet you still say that's our need. Unbelievable.

steeltheone
02-23-2010, 10:04 AM
My money would be on Thigpen, Mills, Johnson and Hastings as the best Steeler group ever. As far as needs go. No its not as important as our senior citizen D line and MLB a top OL or S, CB..but it's still a need for a team that lives by the pass.

steelreserve
02-23-2010, 12:47 PM
I agree that WR is a need in the way that every position needs to be replenished pretty frequently (I mean, look at your list, you named half the positions on the team). Yeah, Ward is probably going to retire in a couple more years, and in the future, we'll need to find a new #3. But as far as RIGHT NOW, we are pretty well stacked.