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Galax Steeler
02-25-2010, 03:55 AM
Thursday, February 25, 2010
By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

INDIANAPOLIS -- Inside linebacker or nose tackle? Cornerback or guard? It will be a while before the Steelers settle on which position they will attack first with the 18th overall pick in the National Football League draft.

But the process of determining which players might best fill one of those positions begins in earnest when coach Mike Tomlin, director of football operations Kevin Colbert and numerous assistant coaches and scouts attend the NFL combine that starts today at Lucas Oil Stadium. Drills, tests, meetings and medical exams are all on the menu at the league's annual meat market of college talent.

"I think the quality of the draft is excellent," Colbert said. "It's very deep defensively. Offensively, there may not be as many big-name skill positions, but there are a lot of players. It's really a good draft, it really is."

Defense would appear to be a large priority for the Steelers, especially after the manner in which the unit slipped from its No. 1 ranking in 2008 to No. 5 in 2009. And the biggest areas of concern are defensive line, where age and quality of depth are issues; inside linebacker, where there is no young replacement for James Farrior; and cornerback, where quality, not quantity, appears to be lacking.

Some of those questions, though, could be answered today if the Steelers put a franchise tag, as expected, on five-time Pro Bowl nose tackle Casey Hampton. His return likely would mean less interest in two of the top nose tackles in the draft -- Terrence Cody of Alabama and Dan Williams of Tennessee.

Colbert said "it's an unusually deep draft" for defensive linemen. "It was unusual before the underclassmen came out. And they just enhanced it."

Here is a look at 10 players about whom the Steelers have interest and will seek answers, at the combine:

NT Terrence Cody: Alabama ... He is a load in the middle (6 feet 5, 365 pounds) and his conditioning always will be an issue. But, when he wants to play, he is almost impossible to move.

ILB Rolando McClain: Alabama ... At 6 feet 4, 258 pounds, he is the best inside backer in the draft and could slip as far as the 15th overall pick. That means the Steelers might not have to move up far to get him.

DE Jared Odrick: Penn State ... A prototypical Steelers lineman who can play the three-technique or five-technique. Plays and looks a lot like Aaron Smith -- stuffing the run while collapsing the pocket.

CB Joe Haden: Florida ... It's not a good year for cornerbacks, but Haden, who will skip his senior season, likely is the best. The Steelers need someone who can play immediately. They don't need more depth.

ILB Sean Weatherspoon: Missouri ... At 6-2, 242 pounds, he is not as big as McClain, but he likely is quicker and a little more athletic and will be available. Lined behind Ziggy Hood with the Tigers.

G/T Mike Iupati: Idaho ... The Steelers need a stud who can come in and play immediately on the offensive line, and Iupati, who opened eyes at the Senior Bowl, could be the guy. He also can play two positions, which the Steelers love.

WR Golden Tate: Notre Dame ... A tough Hines Ward-type receiver with even more athletic skills who would eventually be Ward's replacement.

OLB Navorro Bowman: Penn State ... In case you haven't noticed, there isn't a lot of depth at outside linebacker. And James Harrison will be 32 next season.

DE Corey Wootton: Northwestern ... At 6 feet 6, 280 pounds, he can play defensive end in the 4-3 or 3-4 defense. Appears to have recovered from a knee injury at the end of his junior season.

G Mike Johnson: Alabama ... Not a first-round pick, but the Steelers could get him on the second or possibly even third round. At 6 feet 6, 305 pounds, he also has the position flexibility to play tackle.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10056/1038481-66.stm

SetTheTone10
02-25-2010, 09:48 AM
do you think now that hampton is locked up for the next 3 years, that we could actually trade up in the draft to aquire Joe Haden? Let Willie Gay and Townsend walk. And have Lewis or Burnett compete for the nickel position?

supa_fly_steeler
02-25-2010, 10:09 AM
bad article. like we want to show an interest in a wide reciever idiot.

mulldog24
02-25-2010, 10:45 AM
They really should have had Earl Thomas on that list. I do like Weatherspoon and wouldn't mind getting him in the 1st now that we have signed Hampton cause I don't think E. Thomas will be there now.

Steeldude
02-25-2010, 01:09 PM
my take is the steelers have a lot of guards or players adept at playing guard, but really there aren't any tackle prospects or depth for that matter.

kemo
stapleton
essex G/T
urbik
legursky G/C
foster

hills will be cut during or after pre-season. that was a horrible pick, IMO.

it all comes down to who is left at 18. i don't think they will go with a NT if the hampton signing is legit.

these are the leading realistic candidates(per position of need) who the steelers have a shot at grabbing at 18...

DB - earl thomas
DL - odrick
T - bulaga
LB - weatherspoon
G - iupati

out of those players, thomas is probably the only one with a realistic shot at starting in his first year.

like we want to show an interest in a wide receiver

don't be surprised if they take a WR in the first or second. the steelers seem to be infatuated with WRs early (edwards, burress, holmes, sweed, randle el, blackwell, johnson, graham). on average, the steelers have a poor record with drafting WRs in the first 2 rounds. i hope they stay far away from picking a WR or RB for the entire draft.

Nadroj 20
02-25-2010, 01:20 PM
bad article. like we want to show an interest in a wide reciever idiot.

I do hope we show interests in one of the later rounds though, yes 1st is too early and i would say 2nd or 3rd is too but i would like to see a WR drafted some time.

taztroy43
02-25-2010, 01:25 PM
I do hope we show interests in one of the later rounds though, yes 1st is too early and i would say 2nd or 3rd is too but i would like to see a WR drafted some time.

yea they have to look @ a WR in the later rounds......:thumbsup:

supa_fly_steeler
02-25-2010, 01:49 PM
I do hope we show interests in one of the later rounds though, yes 1st is too early and i would say 2nd or 3rd is too but i would like to see a WR drafted some time.

selecting a wide reciever in the first few rounds just doesn't make sense.

1. they wont be wanted
2. mike wallace is our future #2 maybe even #1
3. limas mentality will just get weaker.

3b. This is the last season i'm behind him after that i flame and generally mock him. But something tells me he's going to get 200-500 year.

Theres no more excuses now.

Northside Jonny
02-25-2010, 03:32 PM
I really think if Earl Thomas is gone it would be wise to move down and grab Weatherspoon.

taztroy43
02-25-2010, 05:54 PM
selecting a wide reciever in the first few rounds just doesn't make sense.

1. they wont be wanted
2. mike wallace is our future #2 maybe even #1
3. limas mentality will just get weaker.

3b. This is the last season i'm behind him after that i flame and generally mock him. But something tells me he's going to get 200-500 year.

Theres no more excuses now.

lol....Limas better step it up because if he doesn't this upcoming season he's out of pittsburgh!!!! as for wallace....this guy has a very high ceiling and he probably will be our #2 guy w/ holmes as our #1 when Ward retires.....Wallace is blazing fast and most importantly he has very reliable hands!!!!! That guy is going to develop into something special!!!! :tt04:

tony hipchest
02-25-2010, 06:08 PM
bad article. like we want to show an interest in a wide reciever idiot.are you freaking kidding me? are you also calling kevin colbert an idiot?

listen dude, youre a cheerleader, so stick to cheerleading as opposed to trying to critique and analyze professionals doing a job they get paid for, because frankly you suck at it and are wrong almost 100% of the time.

everytime you post an ignorant post like this one (which is multiple times daily) you show how clueless you are to what is actually going on.

today gill brandt interviewed kevin colbert at the combine (and i know your type- you either have no idea who gil brandt even is, or you think he is some idiot hack who was plucked off the street to start analyzing football 5 years ago).

kevin colbert (the steelers general manager) said the steelers are interested in looking at and evaluating every position for depth other than QB and TE. when he listed the positions where they were interested in finding depth, he mentioned WR second after OT.

= good article and spot on.

supa_fly_steeler
02-25-2010, 06:11 PM
are you freaking kidding me? are you also calling kevin colbert an idiot?

listen dude, youre a cheerleader, so stick to cheerleading as opposed to trying to critique and analyze professionals doing a job they get paid for, because frankly you suck at it and are wrong almost 100% of the time.

everytime you post an ignorant post like this one (which is multiple times daily) you show how clueless you are to what is actually going on.

today gill brandt interviewed kevin colbert at the combine (and i know your type- you either have no idea who gil brandt even is, or you think he is some idiot hack who was plucked off the street to start analyzing football 5 years ago).

kevin colbert (the steelers general manager) said the steelers are interested in looking at and evaluating every position for depth other than QB and TE. when he listed the positions where they were interested in finding depth, he mentioned WR second after OT.

= good article and spot on.

It's my opinion and it wasn't an ignorant post. We have found our three wide recievers for the future. It's a waste of a pick.

Are you stupid i know who Colbert is.

:blah::blah::blah::blah:

After i read that rubbish

:applaudit::applaudit::applaudit::applaudit: :hatsoff:

http://www.obleek.com/stuff/ww2ol/tissues.gif

tony hipchest
02-25-2010, 06:28 PM
It's my opinion and it wasn't an ignorant post. We have found our three wide recievers for the future. It's a waste of a pick.

:toofunny:

"i rest my case, your honor"

Are you stupid i know who Colbert is.


kevin colbert is the steelers general manager and director of player personnel, not some idiot whos opinion you can get away with shitting upon while visiting a steelers messageboard.

my opinion is that you should stick within your niche- :cheer:

constantly pimping UT players is far less annoying to the boards patrons.

Nadroj 20
02-25-2010, 06:36 PM
It's my opinion and it wasn't an ignorant post. We have found our three wide recievers for the future. It's a waste of a pick.

Are you stupid i know who Colbert is.

:blah::blah::blah::blah:

After i read that rubbish

:applaudit::applaudit::applaudit::applaudit: :hatsoff:

http://www.obleek.com/stuff/ww2ol/tissues.gif

And who are those three WRs of the future? For sure Holmes and Wallace but im missing that third guy and if you mean Sweed then you seriously cant be considering him a solid #3 (after ward is gone) at this point can you?? he has done nothing as of yet to prove that he can....so with that being said......A WR should be taken and i think one will be

There is no way taking a WR after the 3rd round or so is a waste of a pick, imo its actually a pretty good one.

supa_fly_steeler
02-25-2010, 06:58 PM
And who are those three WRs of the future? For sure Holmes and Wallace but im missing that third guy and if you mean Sweed then you seriously cant be considering him a solid #3 (after ward is gone) at this point can you?? he has done nothing as of yet to prove that he can....so with that being said......A WR should be taken and i think one will be

There is no way taking a WR after the 3rd round or so is a waste of a pick, imo its actually a pretty good one.

Sweed will get it right this offseason.

I would take.

round1. defensive back
round2. defensive lineman or offensive lineman
round3. linebacker
round4. whichever we didn't get in round 2
round5. running back
round6. tight end
round7. wide reciever.

And Tony i ever said Colbert was an idiot, the writer yes were never going to draft a Receiver in the first 3 rounds what a waste of a pick with so much decent defensive players to get.

Colbert might of said we would get a wide reciever but not in the first 2 rounds at least with out originial picks.

Hell he might be talking about a smokescreen and not draft a reciever at all.

I am still questioning the 2007 first round pick of Timmons when Michael Griffin and Jon Beason were still there.

Northside Jonny
02-25-2010, 07:04 PM
don't be surprised if they take a WR in the first or second. the steelers seem to be infatuated with WRs early (edwards, burress, holmes, sweed, randle el, blackwell, johnson, graham). on average, the steelers have a poor record with drafting WRs in the first 2 rounds. i hope they stay far away from picking a WR or RB for the entire draft.

I must disagree with you Hines is getting a little old so it would be time to draft a guy for him to groom Freddie Barnes come to mind.
6'0" 212 LBS. Projected round 5th http://www.columbiamissourian.com/media/multimedia/2009/09/12/media/091209_MUFBall09_t_w600_h600.jpg

As far as RB's are concerned you can never have enough of them because that position is very injury prone Anthony Dixon comes to mind here.
6'1" 235 LBS. Projected round 4th http://image.cdnl3.xosnetwork.com/pics20/200/CF/CFJFISVQFGFZJGU.20070913225720.jpg

Both Barnes and Dixon will still be on the board in the 4th possibly later if the FO is smart they will snag both of them.

tony hipchest
02-25-2010, 07:13 PM
And Tony i ever said Colbert was an idiot, the writer yes were never going to draft a Receiver in the first 3 rounds what a waste of a pick with so much decent defensive players to get.

Colbert might of said we would get a wide reciever but not in the first 2 rounds at least with out originial picks.

.

DUDE! where the hell does the writer say anything about the 1st 3 rounds?

Here is a look at 10 players about whom the Steelers have interest and will seek answers, at the combine:

seriously... this is getting rediculous.

please, from here on out, be sure when you read something to read it a second and third time to be certain that you comprehend.

and then when you go on to post about what you read, read that a second and third time to be sure people can understand what the hell you are talking about (as incorrect as it may be).

also check that you have an appropriate thread title to the post, and make sure you know which freaking forum you are even posting in.

with all those measures taken, your posts may eventually not seem to reflect those of an ADD poster child.

Nadroj 20
02-25-2010, 07:25 PM
Sweed will get it right this offseason.

I would take.

round1. defensive back
round2. defensive lineman or offensive lineman
round3. linebacker
round4. whichever we didn't get in round 2
round5. running back
round6. tight end
round7. wide reciever.

And Tony i ever said Colbert was an idiot, the writer yes were never going to draft a Receiver in the first 3 rounds what a waste of a pick with so much decent defensive players to get.

Colbert might of said we would get a wide reciever but not in the first 2 rounds at least with out originial picks.

Hell he might be talking about a smokescreen and not draft a reciever at all.

I am still questioning the 2007 first round pick of Timmons when Michael Griffin and Jon Beason were still there.

Oh really he will? just like the last offseason? Dude i kinda hope your right i would like to see sweed succeed, but based on how everything has turned out with him, i dont see it.....so drafting a WR this year is an option i can easily see the steelers taking. IN LATER ROUNDS, im not saying pick a WR first round to prevent us from getting your precious Earl Thomas so dont worry.....i do think in the later rounds though its something that could and imo should be addressed.

supa_fly_steeler
02-25-2010, 07:27 PM
Oh really he will? just like the last offseason? Dude i kinda hope your right i would like to see sweed succeed, but based on how everything has turned out with him, i dont see it.....so drafting a WR this year is an option i can easily see the steelers taking. IN LATER ROUNDS, im saying pick a WR first round to prevent us from getting your precious Earl Thomas so dont worry.....i do think in the later rounds though its something that could and imo should be addressed.

Ben Roethlisberger has already 4 to 5 options (3wr, 1rb-te). I don't think there is any need to look into a serious 4th wide reciever until Hines is near retirement. And yes this is the year Limas at least gets 5-15 catches for 100 yards.

Nadroj 20
02-25-2010, 07:34 PM
Ben Roethlisberger has already 4 to 5 options (3wr, 1rb-te). I don't think there is any need to look into a serious 4th wide reciever until Hines is near retirement. And yes this is the year Limas at least gets 5-15 catches for 100 yards.

Listen that is what i am saying but im saying to address it now while ward is still on the team so maybe this kid could learn a little from ward. Is that so crazy???? Im not saying pick a guy that will make an immediate impact like the steal we go last season with Wallace. Im saying 3rd round or later to take a guy like Freddie Barnes, maybe a Taylor Price from Ohio, someone who will eventually be able to step up after ward retires and if sweed does indeed stay on the path hes on....its not a crazy idea.

Galax Steeler
02-26-2010, 03:41 AM
I can see us taking a receiver from the 4th round on. It won't be early but I do see a need of drafting one what would happen if one of our top three receivers went down with an injury. I still don't see Sweed making any head way.