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SteelerEmpire
03-08-2010, 11:07 PM
Allegations of sexual misconduct. The first case "seems" to basically work out in your favor... and then... bam !!! You put yourself right back in a situation that brings up another allegation.... I don't know about you... but I'm riding with Ben on this one (as well as the first one). But this brings a flash-back of when Michael Jackson was accused of sexual deviant behavior ...and then put himself is the same situation again... good grief... Anyway. Here's an insightful article.... Yea. Its another Ben angle... but oh well.....
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Article. 3/8/10:
Let's begin with the usual platitudes: Ben Roethlisberger is innocent until proved guilty. So far, the two-time Super Bowl champion has not been charged with a crime, though police in a small Georgia college town are continuing to investigate the allegation that Roethlisberger sexually assaulted a 20-year-old college student in a bar bathroom early Friday morning.

And with that out of the way, let me pose the question that has plagued many of us since hearing the news that Roethlisberger is the subject of sexual assault allegations for the second time in eight months: Why is a 28-year-old quarterback with a $100 million contract putting himself at risk by socializing and drinking in a club with college kids?

I am not one of those people who believes athletes should have to stay confined to their homes, but after a hotel worker served Roethlisberger with a civil suit last summer accusing him of raping her at a Lake Tahoe hotel in 2008, he should have been smart enough to realize the rules have changed for him.

In other words, the first incident officially put bar-hopping in Milledgeville, Ga., on his "to-don't" list.

I understand that Roethlisberger is single and that clubbing isn't illegal, but if he couldn't see that mixing alcohol, college women, his celebrity and the nightclub scene was courting disaster, he might not be worthy of being the franchise quarterback for one of the most well-run organizations in professional sports.

I know that sounds harsh. If you hold a magnifying glass to Roethlisberger's track record, though, there are definitely some red flags pointing to the fact that he still needs to grow up. Until now, he's received the benefit of the doubt about his maturity. But that officially ended when this criminal investigation began.

It can't be forgotten that Roethlisberger, the youngest quarterback to win a Super Bowl, nearly killed himself in a motorcycle accident in June 2006 because he wasn't wearing a helmet, which his then-coach Bill Cowher had insisted he do. Roethlisberger didn't even have a valid Pennsylvania motorcycle license at the time.

That, supposedly, was his wake-up call to become more responsible. When he left the hospital after suffering serious injuries, he said in a statement, "In the past few days, I've gained a new perspective on life."

If that perspective was intended to be mature and enlightened, it apparently didn't stick.

Even with so much to lose, Roethlisberger has continued to behave too much like a frat boy and not enough like the face of his organization.

He has a reputation in Pittsburgh for trying to skip out on his restaurant tabs, according to news reports. There is also a picture of Roethlisberger on the Internet wearing a T-shirt that says "Drink Like A Champion."

And the drink isn't milk.

Several people who saw Roethlisberger out in Milledgeville the other night reported that he bought himself and others shots called "O-Bombs," a flavored rum-and-energy drink mixture. Inside the club where the assault allegedly occurred, according to a report from ESPN's Kelly Naqi, Roethlisberger and his friends were inviting women they didn't know into their VIP area and offering them free drinks.

A good night if your name is Ben Smith. Totally idiotic if you're Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

There's a reason you never hear about Tom Brady partying in bars or clubs, or have yet to see any unflattering photos of him on the Internet. That isn't to say Brady is perfect, but he seems to understand that he's a brand worth millions and that he has too much at stake to put himself in situations in which he'd be the one who loses out. Derek Jeter is Mr. Social and a serial dater, but you've never heard his name associated with any controversy, despite living in New York City for more than a decade.

Roethlisberger apparently didn't understand that his high-profile status mixed with the pending civil case meant he could no longer afford to maintain social habits that mirror those of Bluto from "Animal House." At the minimum, he should have realized he became a potential target the moment that civil case was filed.

In that case, Roethlisberger has admitted that he and Andrea McNulty -- the woman who filed the civil case against him in Nevada -- had consensual sex. McNulty's lawyer has already indicated to TMZ that he will be watching the developments in Georgia very closely.

Roethlisberger's reputation has taken a major hit, and I wouldn't blame the Rooney family if they're having second thoughts today about the $102 million investment they made in him. A good quarterback is supposed to see the entire field and anticipate plays before they happen. It seems as if this quarterback's vision leaves much to be desired.

tony hipchest
03-08-2010, 11:23 PM
A good quarterback is supposed to see the entire field and anticipate plays before they happen. It seems as if this quarterback's vision leaves much to be desired.

bens specialty has always been taking sacks.

or in this case "in the sack".

(i just thought i would get that out there being that this thread is destined for a merger or lockdown. plus ben is hardly michael jordan...

not yet anyways).

Merchant
03-09-2010, 12:04 AM
In that case, Roethlisberger has admitted that he and Andrea McNulty -- the woman who filed the civil case against him in Nevada -- had consensual sex. McNulty's lawyer has already indicated to TMZ that he will be watching the developments in Georgia very closely.




Oh what? He DID have sex with her? I didn't even know that lol

fansince'76
03-09-2010, 12:07 AM
I understand that Roethlisberger is single and that clubbing isn't illegal, but if he couldn't see that mixing alcohol, college women, his celebrity and the nightclub scene was courting disaster, he might not be worthy of being the franchise quarterback for one of the most well-run organizations in professional sports.

Yeah, maybe we should go back to a QB who doesn't like girls and has a penchant for throwing backbreaking picks in AFCCGs, like Korkie. :rolleyes:

JackHammer
03-09-2010, 12:16 AM
Yeah, maybe we should go back to a QB who doesn't like girls and has a penchant for throwing backbreaking picks in AFCCGs, like Korkie. :rolleyes:

:rofl::rofl:

nikstar
03-09-2010, 02:24 AM
Obviously our stud quarterback just has sex with these women and than they see the cash grab by sueing him and bring up allegations when nothing ever was mentioned beforee the confrontation. Ben has to bang himself a quality b-celebrity wife and get married and have a kid. No Jessica Simpson, think Jennefer Love Hewitt..
he's a partier, obvious by his style on and off the field. He has yet to do anything wrong. Make her apologize for accusing you and move on to training camp.

don't forget to wear a condom, maybe just at all times, even in the shower.
and rack up some wins this year god damn it, i want this superbowl every 3 years streak to continue

JEFF4i
03-09-2010, 03:59 AM
The analogy isn't necessarily a bad one.

solardave
03-09-2010, 06:46 AM
I think the article is dead on. BEN NEEDS TO GROW UP AND THINK OF THE TEAM MORE!!! You're now a target Ben. Quit leading with your chin.

stillers4me
03-09-2010, 06:50 AM
bens specialty has always been taking sacks.

or in this case "in the sack".

(i just thought i would get that out there being that this thread is destined for a merger or lockdown. plus ben is hardly michael jordan...

not yet anyways).

I'm thinkin' the Mj being referred to is Michael Jackson.

For some reason, the thought of Ben throwing that TD to Santonio in the superbowl and then grabbing his crotch just cracks me up. :toofunny:

Steelers>NFL
03-09-2010, 08:27 AM
I think the article is dead on. BEN NEEDS TO GROW UP AND THINK OF THE TEAM MORE!!! You're now a target Ben. Quit leading with your chin.
Absolutely dead on post here...

HometownGal
03-09-2010, 08:29 AM
Quit leading with your chin.

If he was leading with his chins, he wouldn't be in this mess. Oh wait - I guess he could be now that I thinik about it. :chuckle:

TackleMeBen
03-09-2010, 10:39 AM
I think the article is dead on. BEN NEEDS TO GROW UP AND THINK OF THE TEAM MORE!!! You're now a target Ben. Quit leading with your chin.
i have never heard it put that way.:wink02:

Gnutella
03-09-2010, 10:49 AM
The whole Ben Roethlisberger/Michael Jackson thing got me thinking: a traumatic event early in somebody's life can arrest certain aspects of their psychological development.

Michael Jackson endured a lot of physical and emotional abuse from his father, which arrested his social development at a very young age. This is probably why he chose to spend his spare time primarily with little kids.

Ben Roethlisberger's mom died when he was younger. I wonder if that's arrested some aspect of his psychological development? I'm not saying it's an excuse for his general behavior; I just wonder if there's any cause and effect here.

jjpro11
03-09-2010, 11:34 AM
The whole Ben Roethlisberger/Michael Jackson thing got me thinking: a traumatic event early in somebody's life can arrest certain aspects of their psychological development.

Michael Jackson endured a lot of physical and emotional abuse from his father, which arrested his social development at a very young age. This is probably why he chose to spend his spare time primarily with little kids.

Ben Roethlisberger's mom died when he was younger. I wonder if that's arrested some aspect of his psychological development? I'm not saying it's an excuse for his general behavior; I just wonder if there's any cause and effect here.

could be.. my guess is that a lot of star athletes act the same way and do the same stuff. Ben has just had some really bad luck.

SteelersinCA
03-09-2010, 03:43 PM
If he was leading with his chins, he wouldn't be in this mess. Oh wait - I guess he could be now that I thinik about it. :chuckle:

Arguably less DNA, though! :thumbsup:

fansince'76
03-09-2010, 04:45 PM
could be.. my guess is that a lot of star athletes act the same way and do the same stuff. Ben has just had some really bad luck.

Agreed - I've read a few articles regarding this case and the subject of Ben stiffing restaurants and being rude to fans has repeatedly come up in them. I'm here to tell you that John Elway hasn't paid a restaurant check since he arrived in Denver in 1983 and is a waiter's/waitresses' nightmare to this day. And I've heard more than a couple Broncos fans' (who in general hold Elway in the same reverence that Steelers fans do Jack Lambert) stories about him being a gigantic prick in general.