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mesaSteeler
03-22-2010, 10:17 AM
(Mods, half of this article is about the draft which means I should put it in the war room but the other half is about what could happen to Big Ben which means it should go under an existing Ben thread. Please feel free to move it where ever you wish. - mesa)

Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

Steelers do not plan on drafting elite QB
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_672803.html#
By Scott Brown
PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Monday, March 22, 2010

ORLANDO, Fla. -- When the Steelers start putting together their draft board next week, they will follow the plan they had before Ben Roethlisberger got accused of sexual assault for the second time in the past eight months.

Director of football operations Kevin Colbert said Sunday that the Steelers have ruled out taking a quarterback with an early-round pick in next month's draft.

"That position appears to be set," Colbert said at the NFL owners meeting. (Of course Colbert could be blowing smoke on this issue. - mesa)

The Steelers' approach at quarterback - they hope to re-sign Charlie Batch to provide depth behind Roethlisberger and promising third-year man Dennis Dixon - is consistent with the stance team president Art Rooney II took last week.

Rooney said the Steelers have "a little bit of a luxury of time" and are going to let the investigation of Roethlisberger play out before entertaining contingency plans at quarterback.

A 20-year-old college student has accused Roethlisberger of sexually assaulting her in a Milledgeville, Ga., night club on March 5. Roethlisberger, one of only 10 quarterbacks to win two Super Bowls, also has a civil suit alleging sexual assault against him pending in Nevada.

Rooney has met with Roethlisberger since a night of bar-hopping in Milledgeville, not far from where Roethlisberger owns a vacation home, took a wrong turn. Rooney and the Steelers have remained tight lipped on the subject, although coach Mike Tomlin told the NFL Network here Saturday: "I'm highly concerned for our franchise and for Ben personally."

Tomlin did not meet with Pittsburgh reporters yesterday as he took his family to one of Disney World's theme parks.

Rooney, asked yesterday about his concern for Roethlisberger and the franchise founded by his grandfather, declined comment.

Roethlisberger's predicament could emerge as the talk of owners meetings. An uncertain and contentious labor situation is a hot-button issue, but owners are prohibited by commissioner Roger Goodell from commenting.

That leaves something of a vacuum that could be filled by Roethlisberger's legal situation - and how an image-conscious league and franchise deal with the accusations that his lawyers say are not true.

Goodell has a Q&A session with reporters today, and Tomlin will take part in a media breakfast tomorrow with the rest of the AFC coaches.

If Roethlisberger is charged in Georgia, he could be subject to a fine or suspension for violation of the league's personal conduct policy, which Goodell enacted in 2007.

Goodell has suspended players before they have been convicted of anything, but he usually takes such action after those players have repeated run-ins with the law.

If Roethlisberger is indicted, Goodell may have to determine whether the criminal charges and a pending lawsuit constitute a pattern of behavior that is detrimental to the league.

Sexual misconduct is among the offenses that are punishable before a conviction, according to the personal-conduct policy.

The policy also allows Goodell to order players to seek treatment. He did that in 2008 with Brandon Marshall as the Broncos wide receiver had to undergo anger-management counseling and serve a one-game suspension following a string of arrests.

Although Roethlisberger's situation has not affected draft preparations, the Steelers are keeping their options open at quarterback. The team has been linked to Byron Leftwich, who served as a capable backup in 2008 before signing with Tampa Bay.

Colbert would not comment on Leftwich, but he has not ruled anything out.

"As we get into the draft preparation," Colbert said, "we'll contact every team as we always do and find out what players are available and whether teams are interested in trading up or down."

Crime and punishment

If Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is charged with a crime following accusations of sexual assault in Milledgeville, Ga., he could be subject to discipline under the NFL's personal conduct policy. Here is a key passage in the policy enacted in 2007 by commissioner Roger Goodell:

"It's not enough to simply avoid being found guilty of a crime. Instead, as an employee of the NFL or a member club, you are held to a higher standard. Persons who fail to live up to this standard are guilty of conduct detrimental and subject to discipline, even where the conduct itself does not result in conviction of a crime."

Discipline, according to the personal conduct policy, may be imposed in any of the following circumstances:

Criminal offenses including, but not limited to, those involving the use or threat of violence; domestic violence and other forms of partner abuse; theft and other property crimes; sex offenses; obstruction or resisting arrest; disorderly conduct; fraud; racketeering; and money laundering.

Criminal offenses relating to steroids and prohibited substances, or substances of abuse.

Violent or threatening behavior among employees, whether in or outside the workplace.

Possession of a gun or other weapon in any workplace setting, including but not limited to stadiums, team facilities, training camp, locker rooms, team planes, buses, parking lots, etc., or unlawful possession of a weapon outside of the workplace.

Conduct that imposes inherent danger to the safety and well being of another person.

Conduct that undermines or puts at risk the integrity and reputation of the NFL, NFL clubs or NFL players.

Scott Brown can be reached at sbrown@tribweb.com or 412-481-5432.

Fire Haley
03-22-2010, 11:12 AM
Dennis Dixon better be studying that playbook right now.

scsteeler
03-22-2010, 11:28 AM
Dennis Dixon better be studying that playbook right now.

I am sure he is and has been doing that all along.

Fire Haley
03-22-2010, 11:33 AM
I suppose we could take Pike as a "non-elite" QB - whatever that means.

MACH1
03-22-2010, 11:37 AM
It seems they don't plan on cutting or trading fat overweight ben. :rolleyes:

Steelers>NFL
03-22-2010, 12:08 PM
I am sure he is and has been doing that all along.On top of that, I hope he is understands how to "throw the ball away".
Or be prepared to run for his life. Because I do not se his skinny frame taking
half ther punishment Big Ben takes on the football field.

steelreserve
03-22-2010, 12:14 PM
The Steelers' approach at quarterback - they hope to re-sign Charlie Batch to provide depth behind Roethlisberger and promising third-year man Dennis Dixon - is consistent with the stance team president Art Rooney II took last week.

Yeah, we could really use some depth at IR with Stapleton leaving.

Are we really serious about that? The guy has played, like, five snaps in two seasons and been injured the rest of the time. Methinks we have a pretty shaky plan if Batch being healthy for the whole season is part of it.

jonslow
03-22-2010, 05:46 PM
Yeah, we could really use some depth at IR with Stapleton leaving.

Are we really serious about that? The guy has played, like, five snaps in two seasons and been injured the rest of the time. Methinks we have a pretty shaky plan if Batch being healthy for the whole season is part of it.

Agreed. I don't think it would hurt to take a late flyer on a "non-elite" quarterback-- something this draft has few of anyway. A guy like Dan LeFevour or Tony Pike would be great picks if they fall to us in the fourth. I wouldn't even mind a Jevan Snead or Jarrett Brown if it comes to that. We definitely need a little depth, and as much as I like Charlie Batch, he's not going to be able to cut it in this league very much longer.

NEPAsteeler
03-22-2010, 05:48 PM
"Charlie Batch takes the snap, steps back, oops. Looks like he's done for the season. Wow. A new record." :chuckle:

pete74
03-22-2010, 05:49 PM
they dont plan on drafting an elite qb because there is only 1 in the entire draft this year and he will go #1 overall to the rams

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
03-22-2010, 05:51 PM
Lets pick up Tim Tebow

SteelerFanInStl
03-23-2010, 07:52 AM
they dont plan on drafting an elite qb because there is only 1 in the entire draft this year and he will go #1 overall to the rams

:iagree: That article should've been signed by Captain Obvious :toofunny:

Dino 6 Rings
03-23-2010, 09:56 AM
Lets pick up Tim Tebow

I agree, seriously.

3rd and 1 would no longer be a problem.

"is there a good wholesome guy out there that can deflect away from this "steelers are not that good image team anymore" nonsense every keeps saying" Is there a guy would could get that's a QB that no one would really expect to be the Second Coming or the Franchise guy, but could help our image and take a snap or two if crap goes south for us?"

"why yes, there is in fact a guy just like that."

"could we snag him in the 2nd? maybe late 1st round?"

"why yes, I think we could"

steelreserve
03-23-2010, 11:58 AM
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zulater
03-23-2010, 12:55 PM
I agree, seriously.

3rd and 1 would no longer be a problem.

"is there a good wholesome guy out there that can deflect away from this "steelers are not that good image team anymore" nonsense every keeps saying" Is there a guy would could get that's a QB that no one would really expect to be the Second Coming or the Franchise guy, but could help our image and take a snap or two if crap goes south for us?"

"why yes, there is in fact a guy just like that."

"could we snag him in the 2nd? maybe late 1st round?"

"why yes, I think we could"

I think I'd throw up if we drafted Tebow any time before the 4th, and I still wouldn't be thrilled with that.

Nadroj 20
03-23-2010, 01:02 PM
I think I'd throw up if we drafted Tebow any time before the 4th, and I still wouldn't be thrilled with that.

This.

JEFF4i
03-23-2010, 01:10 PM
Hey Dino 6, I'm amazed how easily you forget Troy, who is one of the best image players in the NFL.

*sigh* I'll be glad when all of this bull is over, one way or another.

Cinnjerm
03-23-2010, 01:13 PM
Hey Dino 6, I'm amazed how easily you forget Troy, who is one of the best image players in the NFL.

*sigh* I'll be glad when all of this bull is over, one way or another.

Me too :banging:

Preacher
03-23-2010, 04:19 PM
Hey Dino 6, I'm amazed how easily you forget Troy, who is one of the best image players in the NFL.

*sigh* I'll be glad when all of this bull is over, one way or another.


But you forgot.... Troy had the audacity to question Commissioner Good-deal in 08. He is no longer a great image of the NFL.

He is now one of those horrible rebel Steelers players that dare play tackle football instead of two hand touch.

Dino 6 Rings
03-23-2010, 04:42 PM
I love Troy, have his Jersey, he's my fav player, he's not very outspoken as a "good voice" Sure, when he shows himself, and this past year with his commercials he's gotten out there more, and its great for the team.

But he's still part of the "tarnished" image now. Lets spice it up, lets shine it up, lets get us a Good Boy in Teebow and give Ben a little something to think about.

Maybe Ben could learn a thing or two from Tim about having a good public image and being a good person.

I know a lot of people Hate Teebow for exactly that reason. But I don't, I kind of like the kid for being a square, and dang it, I'm sick and effing tired of not converting 3rd and Short.

Sick of it, if Teebow in the 2nd or 3rd round, or late first, EF IT, gets me a 90% Chance of Converting those downs, I'll freaking Take It.

pete74
03-23-2010, 04:45 PM
if we decide to take a qb in the draft i would rather take a chance with john skelton.

JEFF4i
03-23-2010, 04:52 PM
I actually like Timmy boy, but still think that we'll be okay.

If Ben did a really proactive response to this and is found innocent, that'd be best. Maybe Ben taking a step back and doing some interactive things with kids about personal responsibility at all levels. That sorta thing.

tyler289
03-23-2010, 05:21 PM
You do not draft a QB when you already have Dixon and have 100+ million dollars invested in Ben. Why anyone would consider that is ludicrous, in my opinion.

SteelerFanInStl
03-23-2010, 07:03 PM
I think I'd throw up if we drafted Tebow any time before the 4th, and I still wouldn't be thrilled with that.

I threw up a little bit just thinking about it .

markymarc
03-26-2010, 08:10 PM
Yeah, we could really use some depth at IR with Stapleton leaving.

Are we really serious about that? The guy has played, like, five snaps in two seasons and been injured the rest of the time. Methinks we have a pretty shaky plan if Batch being healthy for the whole season is part of it.

You are dead on and I don't like the fact that we resigned Batch. The only good I see in bringing back Batch is for him to mentor Dixon and helping him progressing in this offense.

markymarc
03-26-2010, 08:13 PM
if we decide to take a qb in the draft i would rather take a chance with john skelton.

I wouldn't mind picking up John Skelton either in the draft. I am looking forward to see what round a team picks up this kid.

markymarc
03-26-2010, 08:14 PM
And yes Dennis Dixon is our current and future backup QB! Just keep working hard DD :tt02: I do believe DD could fill in very nicely if needed for any length of time. Another season under his belt and the Ravens game last season can only help him improve.