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lamberts-lost-tooth
03-22-2010, 12:44 PM
U.S. states launch lawsuits against healthcare plan
Mon Mar 22, 2010

CHICAGO, March 22 (Reuters) - Less than 24 hours after the U.S. House of Representatives gave final approval to a sweeping overhaul of healthcare, attorneys general from several states on Monday said they will sue to block the plan on constitutional grounds.

Republican attorneys general in 11 states warned that lawsuits will be filed to stop the federal government overstepping its constitutional powers and usurping states' sovereignty.

States are concerned the burden of providing healthcare will fall on them without enough federal support.

Ten of the attorneys general plan to band together in a collective lawsuit on behalf of Alabama, Florida, Nebraska, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah and Washington.

"To protect all Texans' constitutional rights, preserve the constitutional framework intended by our nation's founders, and defend our state from further infringement by the federal government, the State of Texas and other states will legally challenge the federal health care legislation," said Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, in a statement.

The Republican attorney generals say the reforms infringe on state powers under the U.S. Constitution's Bill of Rights.

Virginia Attorney General Kenneth Cuccinelli, who plans to file a lawsuit in federal court in Richmond, Virginia, said Congress lacks authority under its constitutional power to regulate interstate commerce to force people to buy insurance. The bill also conflicts with a state law that says Virginians cannot be required to buy insurance, he added.

"If a person decides not to buy health insurance, that person by definition is not engaging in commerce," Cuccinelli said in recorded comments. "If you are not engaging in commerce, how can the federal government regulate you?"

In addition to the pending lawsuits, bills and resolutions have been introduced in at least 36 state legislatures seeking to limit or oppose various aspects of the reform plan through laws or state constitutional amendments, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

So far, only two states, Idaho and Virginia, have enacted laws, while an Arizona constitutional amendment is seeking voter approval on the November ballot. But the actual enactment of the bill by President Barack Obama could spur more movement on the measures by state lawmakers.

As is the case on the Congressional level, partisan politics is in play on the state level, where no anti-health care reform legislation has emerged in Democrat-dominated states like Illinois and New York, according to the NCSL.

Florida Attorney General Bill McCollum, a Republican candidate running for governor, said the mandate would cost Florida at least $1.6 billion in Medicaid alone.

All states would receive extra funding to cover Medicaid costs that are expected to rise under the reform, including 100 percent federal coverage for new enrollees under the plan through 2016.

Medicaid is the healthcare program for the poor jointly administered by the states and federal government.
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2219776820100322

Fire Haley
03-22-2010, 12:52 PM
Yeah, whatever

Obama will sign the bill as law of the land.


Two words

Costa Rica

Dino 6 Rings
03-22-2010, 01:00 PM
So how does a "broke" person that already doesn't have health insurance, afford health insurance now?

Do they not get back their Rebate Check? If they have one coming that is. I mean, you have to actually pay taxes to get a rebate. Well you used to anyway.

Do they cut their Food Stamps and Welfare or Unemployment Check to put that money toward their new mandated insurance?

Or does the Fed fine them, and then imprison them for being too broke to buy any insurance?

Or does the Fed force the Haves to pay for the health insurance of the Have Nots?

lamberts-lost-tooth
03-22-2010, 01:36 PM
So how does a "broke" person that already doesn't have health insurance, afford health insurance now?

Do they not get back their Rebate Check? If they have one coming that is. I mean, you have to actually pay taxes to get a rebate. Well you used to anyway.

Do they cut their Food Stamps and Welfare or Unemployment Check to put that money toward their new mandated insurance?

Or does the Fed fine them, and then imprison them for being too broke to buy any insurance?

Or does the Fed force the Haves to pay for the health insurance of the Have Nots?

Ding Ding...we have a winner. (Psssst....you and I are the "Haves")

X-Terminator
03-22-2010, 01:49 PM
I'm shocked that Pennsylvania is one of the states that plans to sue. I thought Fat Eddie would be on his knees licking Pelosi's shoes for passing the bill.

And yes, there's not much question that those of us who pay taxes will be forced to pay for the premiums of those who can't afford it. It won't be limited to "the rich" either.

MACH1
03-22-2010, 01:50 PM
Ding Ding...we have a winner. (Psssst....you and I are the "Haves")

Just waiting for you to spread some my way when I'm destitute. :wink02:


Two words

Costa Rica

Puerto Rico

fansince'76
03-22-2010, 02:46 PM
So how does a "broke" person that already doesn't have health insurance, afford health insurance now?

Do they not get back their Rebate Check? If they have one coming that is. I mean, you have to actually pay taxes to get a rebate. Well you used to anyway.

Do they cut their Food Stamps and Welfare or Unemployment Check to put that money toward their new mandated insurance?

Or does the Fed fine them, and then imprison them for being too broke to buy any insurance?

Or does the Fed force the Haves to pay for the health insurance of the Have Nots?

Can't I just not pay and simply "deem" that I have? :noidea:

lamberts-lost-tooth
03-22-2010, 03:08 PM
Just waiting for you to spread some my way when I'm destitute. :wink02:






Hmmmmm....How compensation in the form of a 1993 Ford Tempo?

MACH1
03-22-2010, 03:10 PM
Hmmmmm....How compensation in the form of a 1993 Ford Tempo?

:toofunny:

steelerdude15
03-22-2010, 05:02 PM
This has Supreme Court written all over this...

GoSlash27
03-22-2010, 05:29 PM
Last I heard, there's a total of 37 states looking to get in on this.
Holy crap!! That's a Constitutional convention.

steelerdude15
03-22-2010, 05:36 PM
Last I heard, there's a total of 37 states looking to get in on this.
Holy crap!! That's a Constitutional convention.
37... that's a lot of states. This is going to turn into a huge mess... o wait, it already is. :frown: