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Vincent
04-06-2010, 05:31 PM
Having grown up in the Northeast, and known lotsa Jews, this question has always puzzled me. I know some of you read Howard so I post...

http://www.galganov.com/editorials.asp?id=1216
WHY DO THE VAST MAJORITY OF JEWS VOTE LIBERAL?

I am not a sociologist. Nor am I an anthropologist. I am simply a person born and raised into a very Jewish environment who was partially educated in a Rabbinical College.

Before I give you my TWO CENTS, I just want you to know that I sincerely believe that it is that which makes the Jewish Culture incredibly successful, which is the same that is the Jewish population’s greatest weakness.

My insight into the psyche of my co-religionists is through life experiences, observations and a relative understanding of the meaning of the Talmud, which is the ANCIENT book that details how all Jews should live our lives.

There are 631 Commandments within the Talmud that tell all Jews what we CAN do. What we CANNOT do. What we SHOULD do. And what we should NOT do.

In reality, there are very few Jews who have ever read the Talmud. And only a handful who have earned the right to call themselves Talmudists.

To be a Talmudist, one must dedicate one’s whole life to reading the Talmud from cover to cover, reading some of it every day, while always analyzing and debating the meaning of every sentence, word, and nuance.

And when the book is completed in its absolute entirety, the Talmudists celebrate and start all over again.

Unlike the Koran, which is a book about dominance and total governance. The thrust of the Talmud is about morality, decency, humility, generosity, fairness, and personal responsibility.

Even though very few Jews have ever read the Talmud. And the fewest of the few are Talmudists. The principles of the Talmud are deeply embedded in the Jewish psyche.

It is all about how we Jews deal with the entire world, and the sanctity of all life, including animal life and the environment around us.

MITZVAH – RACHMONOUS:

TWO of the MOST important words that are critical to how Jews govern our lives are Mitzvah and Rachmonous.

The TRUE meaning of Mitzvah is doing an anonymous unsolicited act of kindness to whoever is in need.

And Rachmonous is a word that defines pity for those who are less fortunate than they should be.

According to our Talmudic laws, there is no greater accomplishment in life than doing a Mitzvah. And there is no greater shame in life than walking away from someone who needs a Mitzvah.

A Mitzvah can be as simple as helping someone cross the street, to feeding all the hungry people who need to be fed. And it’s not enough to have Rachmonous for someone’s suffering if you aren’t prepared to do a Mitzvah to alleviate it, if you are so capable.

Schadenfreude is a German word that describes the delight one takes in the suffering or embarrassment of others. Especially an enemy, or someone you’re jealous of, or simply someone you don’t like.

Everyone experiences Schadenfreude, even if they won’t admit it. But, to Jews, Schadenfreude goes against the absolute teachings of the Talmud.

When we Jews celebrate our history, we NEVER celebrate our military victories; otherwise we’d be celebrating the defeat of others. Instead - WE CELEBRATE OUR SURVIVAL, such as the Exodus of Jews from Egyptian bondage in our Passover Seders.

JEWS ARE SMOTHERED IN DEBATE:

Unlike many other religions, Islam SPECIFICALLY, Jews are encouraged to debate the meaning of the Talmud. We study and argue every shade of the Talmud to understand what the true meaning is of every word.

If a Moslem even questioned any part of the Koran, the result could very well be punishment as severe as death.

By debating the very fabric of our morality and responsibilities in life, we are CONDITIONED at the earliest of age, that not only do we question everything, but also listen to everyone’s argument.

So, instead of seeing black and white answers, we see a never-ending gradient of gray, where just about everything is debatable with an infinite number of possible outcomes.

There’s an old joke about a President of the United States of America and a Prime Minister of Israel chatting:

The President told the Prime Minister how hard it is to be the President of three hundred million people. In response, the Israeli Prime Minister said: If you think that’s hard, how would you like to be the Prime Minister of 5 million Prime Ministers?

Another extremely important part of our teachings in the Talmud is to search for knowledge. But you can’t search for knowledge if you don’t have an open mind, which means that everything must be debatable.

Our belief in so many shades of gray, Mitzvah and Rachmonous, perverts our balance of right and wrong, and how we think about our successes and failures.

Even though Jews worldwide represent the smallest of small minorities at LESS than TWO TENTHS OF ONE PERCENT (13,000,000 Jews) of the global population out of almost SEVEN BILLION people, Jewish influence goes way beyond all proportion.

Think about these approximate numbers:

5-million Jews live in the USA

5-million Jews live in Israel.

About 1.5-million Jews live in all of Europe, with 500,000 in France, 300,000 in the United Kingdom, 230,000 in Russia and 120,00 in Germany with the remaining population being spread-out amongst the balance of European countries.

There are about 400,000 Jews who live in Canada. But, on a per capita basis, Canada’s Jewish population represents 11% of its total population.

As for the USA, American Jews comprise ONLY 2.2% (5-million) of the entire population, yet think about how intrinsic America’s Jews have become to the very core of American life; from Hollywood, to Medicine, to Engineering, to Finances, to Broadcasting, to Civil Rights and beyond.

I won’t go into great detail of the near boundless number of gifts the world has received from the Jewish population at large, other than to list the following:

TO DATE – ABOUT 170 JEWISH NOBEL LAUREATES

Literature – 12
World Peace – 9
Chemistry – 25
Economics -24
Medicine – 49
Physics – 51

Compare that to LESS THAN 10 Arab/Moslem Laureates COMBINED, with almost one and a Half BILLION population worldwide.

But we don’t brag about it, because according to the Talmud that would be wrong.

WHAT’S THIS JEWISH GUILT STUFF?

We feel guilt for everything.

When the Nazis and other European anti-Semites attacked Jews, the first response by Europe’s Jews was: What did WE do to bring this upon ourselves? We assumed it was us who asked for this misery.

When Israel almost went down to total defeat in the 1973 Yom Kippur War, where 2,688 Israeli soldiers were killed with thousands more wounded, a Jewish group in Toronto held a massive BLOOD DRIVE to help Jewish AND Arab soldiers.

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT GUILT: Imagine – Giving blood to those whose sole interest was in killing you and all of yours?

Even today – RIGHT NOW, as I’m writing this, one of Israel’s preeminent daily newspapers (Ha’aretz) is blaming Netanyahu because of Barack Hussein Obama’s virulent Anti-Israel position, and the despicable way Obama treated Netanyahu.

In 1968, I joined the Montreal JDL (Jewish Defense League), which was viewed upon by MOST of Montreal’s Jewish community as a group of THUGS.

There were two reason reasons why I joined:

One was because Jewish boys and girls who went to schools in the Cote Des Neiges area of Montreal were being intimidated, beaten, and in the case of some girls groped and fondled by French and Black Gangs.

The other was to do what I could to help FREE Russian Refusniks.

In typical Jewish response, our “leaders” BEGGED the police to intervene, which they didn’t. The police laughed it off as if it was no big deal. And from day to day, the intimidation, beatings and sexual assaults were growing.

So, what did the Jewish community do? They kept it quiet (away from the media) and continued to BEG the police, who continued to laugh it off.

Then one day, the JDL caught up with some of those thugs and beat the holy crap out of them AND SPREAD THE WORD FOR ALL TO KNOW. Then they caught another bunch in the darkness of night at a hangout in a local park, where they too were kicked to crap.

And then it REALLY hit the press. ESPECIALLY the French press, which called us the worst names they could get away with. And before you knew it, because of the over-the-top media hype we received, we were the most feared and ugly group imaginable.

Almost 30 years later when my prominence in Quebec grew substantially, the French press wrote about me as if I used to be some kind of Jewish TERRORIST.

I wasn’t at either of those fights. If I were, I would admit it with pride. But I didn’t know about them until they were over. Instead, I focused just about all of my efforts on helping FREE Russian REFUSENIKS.

The results of the JDL:

1 - What the Jewish elitist community organizers couldn’t do in MONTHS of begging, the JDL did in a couple of weeks. And then it was all over, and NO OTHER JEWISH KID WAS EVER BOTHERED AGAIN.

2 – That the French community egged-on by their media hated us as if were Nazis we understood, and wore it as a badge of accomplishment.

But, what we couldn’t understand, was the Jewish ELITIST reaction that did everything they possibly could to distance themselves from us who risked life, limb, and arrest to protect those within our community who otherwise had no protection whatsoever.

I was 18 or 19 at that time. And until then, I was relatively observant. After that though, my religious beliefs began to change.

Because of THOUSANDS of years of Talmudic conditioning, whether we ever read the Talmud or not, we’ve developed an unshakeable PASSIVE mentality:

We as a community had become so pathetic, that we viewed our own preemptive self-defense as a thing to be greatly ashamed of.

We’ve also become absolutely ingrained in supporting everyone else’s causes, as if these causes were our own.

A few examples of our benevolent involvement in the lives of others, include the Civil Rights Movement of the 50’s and 60’s, where Jews were beaten and murdered trying to emancipate the Blacks.

Martin Luther King wrote extensively about how Jews were amongst the leaders of his cause. Yet, a huge number of America’s Blacks HATE us; perhaps even more so today.

Jews were the backbone of the ACLU, and even defended a Nazi’s RIGHT to march in the Jewish community of Skokie Illinois.

I was born into a LIBERAL household like most of Montreal Jews. As a kid, I was conditioned to raise money for charities. I sold MORE chocolate bars for “worthy” causes than anyone else in my school.

I visited old-folks homes. Accompanied mentally handicapped young people on day-trips. And worked for Liberal Parties (federal and provincial) during elections.

As a teenager, I coached football and baseball because it was the right thing to do, even though I would have rather been playing than coaching.

And because of my religious participation in those days, I did whatever my Synagogue asked me to do to support charitable fundraisers.

Over the years, BECAUSE of Jewish GUILT, I used my radio pulpit to help start projects that now feed thousands of hungry school children hot meals everyday.

I have helped through promotion and fundraising to shelter hundreds of homeless people.

I created a multi-million dollar campaign to defend battered women.

I contribute to hospitals, even though I get no special treatment in return.

And I support animal causes to the hilt without going crazy about it.

Why did I do all of this when I was so young, and still do?

BECAUSE it’s who we are - It’s who we’ve been from recorded time. It’s in our DNA.

So, why do we vote LIBERAL just about all the time?

Liberals are the EPITOME of support for the Something-For-Nothing Bunch. What could possibly be better for a GUILT RIDDEN people, than to support a philosophy that drips with bleeding hearts wanting to SHARE the WEALTH?

And how better to assuage our Jewish inner-self that demands we SACRIFICE and CHAMPION the underdog than to vote for a Party that promises to relieve us from our own real or imagined guilt by giving away our money and FREEDOM?

In 1995, French-speaking Quebec, which has a very long history of hating Jews, went through a referendum on separating from Canada. I didn’t care that much if Quebec left Canada or not. But what I DID care about, was fighting against language (culture) laws that made every non-French person second-class under the law.

Right after the referendum, which Quebec lost by less then 1% of the vote, a few others and I began an EXTREMELY aggressive and successful Political Action Committee that literally declared a marketing and legal war on the province.

The response from this anti-Semitic province was to highlight me as a Jew on the front pages of their major daily newspapers, on their radio and television stations, and upon hundreds of walls splattered with anti-Semitic graffiti that threatened my life, EVEN THOUGH MY RELIGION HAD NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THE ISSUES.

Before me, NO ONE EVER took on the Ethnocentric Quebecois Nationalists face to face, all the way to the Premier of Quebec and the French Prime Minister of Canada.

And because of what I started and followed through with, for several years, Anne and I were forced to live with armed bodyguards 24/7 for months at a time.

To MOST Anglo Christians - I was their hero.

To the Liberal Elitist Jewish population, they asked me if I could put someone else in the spotlight and pull the strings from the shadows, so as not to attract attention to the Jewish Community.

WHY OBAMA?

What can be MORE Liberal and liberating for Jewish “Guilt-Machines”, other than to vote for a Black Guy?

With just one swish of the voting pencil, American Jews demonstrated to themselves how absolutely NON PREJUDICIAL they are. NOW THAT’S LIBERAL!

It didn't matter to them that all of Obama’s MOST SERIOUS personal relationships were with Communist, White-Hating, America-Hating and Jew-Hating thugs.

OBAMA WAS A BLACK LIBERAL. And that was more than enough.

Before I conclude, you should also know that even though most Jews are far more preconditioned to talk than fight, and want to negotiate everything as if everything is negotiable, there have been an enormous number of Jews who have fought bravely for FREEDOM in all manner of wars.

Not all of us are so conditioned to believe that we have to feel guilty for our successes and responsible for the failure of others. But regrettably, it seems to me that most of us do.

Best Regards . . . Howard Galganov

ricardisimo
04-06-2010, 06:22 PM
An interesting (if curt) assessment from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_political_movements#Outside_Israel):
Over the past century, Jews in Europe and the Americas have traditionally tended towards the political left, and played key roles in the birth of the labor movement as well as socialism. While Diaspora Jews have also been represented in the conservative side of the political spectrum, even politically conservative Jews have tended to support pluralism more consistently than many other elements of the political right. Daniel J. Elazar connects this pluralist tendency to the fact that Jews are not expected to proselytize, and argues that whereas Christianity and Islam anticipate a single world-state, Judaism does not.[1] This lack of a universalizing religion is combined with the fact that most Jews live as minorities in their countries, and that no central Jewish religious authority has existed for over 2,000 years.

Leftoverhard
04-06-2010, 07:14 PM
Because they aren't buying what you're selling, V

revefsreleets
04-06-2010, 07:58 PM
It's simple: The Jewish population, especially in the US, is highly educated and has sustained multi-generational successes. They are far removed from the harsh realities of the real world, and are true intellectuals, people who see the World through idealistic, Utopian eyes.

I remember when I was in college and was being blasted from all sides with the liberal message that "peace would prevail" and all that happy horseshit. It makes perfect and ABSOLUTE sense in the classroom. Hypothetically and theoretically it's a perfect theory. And it falls apart the very second the real World gray-area complexity hits it...it's exponentially more complicated for American Jews, especially viewed through the prism of ignorant, generationally bred hatred they face from all sides every day...we even see it on this board.

Preacher
04-06-2010, 08:04 PM
I didn't read through the article.

But based on my in-laws, I have to say there are two primary reasons.

1. East-coast influence. It simply is the culture of the East-coast.

2. And much more powerful in my mind, the dems are seen as the "Tolerant" ones. Whether they are or are not is a very different discussion. But coming out of the holocaust in the 1940's, the thought amongst American Jews is that the more tolerance is pushed, the less likely another holocaust will be. At least, that is what I have gathered.

Vincent
04-06-2010, 09:31 PM
Because they aren't buying what you're selling, V

And what is it that I'm "selling", L?

Vincent
04-06-2010, 09:42 PM
the dems are seen as the "Tolerant" ones.

:rofl: :toofunny: :sofunny: :danceshout: :bunnydance: :downspin: :dizzy: :sofunny: :toofunny: :rofl:

"Tolerant"???!!! That's rich. Yeah, they will "tolerate" anything, and I mean anything, except people that won't. Until someone disagrees with them, then look out. Out comes the tar and feathers. They're the most viscous pricks on the planet.

"Tolerant". Quit it! Yer killing me!

Burning crosses and lynchings - the "picture" of tolerance.

SteelerEmpire
04-07-2010, 12:46 AM
There's a variety of reasons 'most' Jews vote liberal... I myself usually vote for the guy that makes most sense. But the author of this article is correct. The philosophy of the liberal perspective seems to run more parallel to what a Jew is (at least there are areas that do). But there are some that are more familiar to the conservative side of the isle as well... more along the work ethic lines. But we are not 'totally' in either arena.
I think you can say a Jew's angle in this area is "work, work, work" ( work is a form of worship of God... for Jews... just like prayer is for gentiles). And then, after you work... give, give, give a good portion of what you now have... Kind of like a lib and a conservative rolled up into one...It seems to work for the Jewish community that results in the closest thing to heaven on earth... at least for us it is...

Preacher
04-07-2010, 01:12 AM
:rofl: :toofunny: :sofunny: :danceshout: :bunnydance: :downspin: :dizzy: :sofunny: :toofunny: :rofl:

"Tolerant"???!!! That's rich. Yeah, they will "tolerate" anything, and I mean anything, except people that won't. Until someone disagrees with them, then look out. Out comes the tar and feathers. They're the most viscous pricks on the planet.

"Tolerant". Quit it! Yer killing me!

Burning crosses and lynchings - the "picture" of tolerance.

LIke I said, whether they are or not is a very different conversation. But the narrative painted about eh democrat party is one of tolerance. I guess many don't remember the 60's.

WH
04-07-2010, 04:43 AM
Before I give you my TWO CENTS Somebody be ready to give him a receipt.

Preacher
04-07-2010, 03:41 PM
Somebody be ready to give him a receipt.

Can you count that high?

WH
04-07-2010, 03:54 PM
Can you count that high?

It was a joke, Padre, lighten up.

Preacher
04-08-2010, 12:45 AM
It was a joke, Padre, lighten up.

As was mine...

1 joke plus 1 joke = two jokes!

:chuckle:

WH
04-08-2010, 01:20 AM
As was mine...

1 joke plus 1 joke = two jokes!

:chuckle:

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/files/2009/02/the-count2.jpg

muah ha ha ha haaaaa