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WilleStargellParker
04-12-2010, 06:19 PM
Don't have a link but saw a bit of Terry talking about Ben on KDKA. Terry basically said Ben is ahole and ****y as all heck and that Ben said he will win more SB's then Terry and etc when they first met.

Shoes
04-12-2010, 06:21 PM
Don't have a link but saw a bit of Terry talking about Ben on KDKA. Terry basically said Ben is ahole and ****y as all heck and that Ben said he will win more SB's then Terry and etc when they first met.

He is an ahole....now he has a chance to change that.

WilleStargellParker
04-12-2010, 06:22 PM
Agree but you need to see what Terry said and wow he did not hold back.

Shoes
04-12-2010, 06:25 PM
I saw it on ESPN

supa_fly_steeler
04-12-2010, 06:27 PM
Link please must watch

Psyychoward86
04-12-2010, 06:30 PM
Don't have a link but saw a bit of Terry talking about Ben on KDKA. Terry basically said Ben is ahole and ****y as all heck and that Ben said he will win more SB's then Terry and etc when they first met.

1st of all....


1) Speak english

2nd....

LINK

fansince'76
04-12-2010, 06:31 PM
1st of all....


1) Speak english

2nd....

LINK

This.

supa_fly_steeler
04-12-2010, 06:32 PM
Terry Bradshaw: "Our relationship is not any good. ... He doesn't like me and I'm learning not to like him."

Shoes
04-12-2010, 06:36 PM
This is all I could find...

http://www.ktbs.com/news/bradshaw-steelers-qb-needs-to-watch-himself/


Posted: Apr 12, 2010 6:05 PM
Updated: Apr 12, 2010 6:15 PM

The six-time Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers don't like losing -- or being embarrassed. The family owned team is protective of its image.

So when the Steelers were humiliated by two of their stars, they reacted with an uncommon display of anger.

Among them is Shreveport native Terry Bradshaw, the Steelers' Hall of Fame quarterback who guided them to four Super Bowl championships. He took quarterback Ben Roethlisberger to task today for his conduct that led to a complaint that he had sexually assaulted a college student in Georgia. Prosecutors in Georgia announced today there is not enough evidence to prosecute Roethlisberger.

Bradshaw said the star quarterback needs to be more careful.

"He has got to realize who he is: He is an elite athlete in the National Football League. He is under a magnificent spotlight. He has got to be careful of what he does in the offseason," Bradshaw said. "The best advice my dad game me, Buddy, "You're a Bradshaw. Don't you dare embarrass the family name.' Because he knew the temptations would be out there. I hardly ever went to a club in 14 years in Pittsburgh. Count 'em on one hand. And I was petrified of the problems you could get into.

"If you're single and walking into a bar with beautiful women and have them just fill your ego up -- and you ask yourself, would they pay any attention to you if you weren't who you are? Of course not. I'm not that attractive, and neither is Ben. So it's nice that you can do that."

Bradshaw's comments came when he was at Squire Creek Country Club in Choudrant for the annual Terry Bradshaw/Kix Brooks Golf Tournament.

He acknowledged there is no love lost between him and Roethlisberger.

"When I told him to park the motorcycle, he got pissed. Then he had the accident (and injured himself)," Bradshaw said. "Since then, he doesn't like me -- and I'm learning not to like him.

"He wants to break all my records. I say, 'Break 'em; I don't care. I've done my job. My job is over and now you have your shot.'"

Roethlisberger's troubles aren't over. He must meet with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell and could be fined or suspended under the league's conduct policy. He also is being sued by a woman who claims he raped her in 2008 at a hotel and casino in Lake Tahoe, an allegation he strongly denies.

Another Steeler, Santonio Holmes, was traded Sunday to the New York Jets for a fifth-round draft pick after the Steelers learned he would suspended four games for violating the NFL's substance abuse
policy.

Holmes already had angered the club. After being accused in a lawsuit of throwing a drink on a woman at an Orlando nightclub, the receiver answered with a long string of Twitter comments in which he suggested a fan should try to kill himself and others detailing his love of partying.

In Roethlisberger's case, the 20-year-old college student told police he sexually assaulted her last month at a nightclub in the central Georgia college town of Milledgeville.

Prosecutors said there is not enough evidence to prosecute Roethlisberger, 28, who owns a home north of Milledgeville.

The young woman's attorney said she asked prosecutors not to pursue the case. Attorney David Walbert said in a letter to Ocmulgee Judicial Circuit District Attorney Fred Bright that his client was not recanting her accusation. But the letter said she felt a trial would be too intrusive because of all the media attention.

Psyychoward86
04-12-2010, 06:38 PM
"If you're single and walking into a bar with beautiful women and have them just fill your ego up -- and you ask yourself, would they pay any attention to you if you weren't who you are? Of course not. I'm not that attractive, and neither is Ben. So it's nice that you can do that."



lol, BURN :chuckle:

CaliStillersFan
04-12-2010, 06:49 PM
Wow a pro athlete is an A-hole, what a revelation. Good thing I watch sports for heir athletic ability and not for how good of a person they are. I would be a miserable sports fan these days with that mindset.

Hmm Terry never made a mistake his whole career? I remember a time when people in Pgh couldn't stand Terry for how he treated the fans at the end of his career and the things he said about Pittsburgh, and how he wasn't embraced by the city till he came back and kissed butt a few years ago. I find it comical seeing some these analysts passing judgments on players knowing some of their own backgrounds. They act like we all just started watching sports last year.

fansince'76
04-12-2010, 06:53 PM
I find it comical seeing some these analysts passing judgments on players knowing some of their own backgrounds.

Word. If I see someone like that crackhead Irvin go into a morality spiel about Ben, I am likely to put my foot through the TV screen.

Preacher
04-12-2010, 06:53 PM
http://www.ktbs.com/player/?video_id=26835&zone=2&categories=2

Video of Terry speaking about it. Terry is dead on right.

Psyychoward86
04-12-2010, 06:58 PM
http://www.ktbs.com/player/?video_id=26835&zone=2&categories=2

Video of Terry speaking about it. Terry is dead on right.

thanks for the link. yeah, bradshaw said all of the right things

Florida_Steelers_Fan
04-12-2010, 07:00 PM
Is this the same Terry Bradshaw that basically gave the Steelers organization the middle finger for quite some time?...

CaliStillersFan
04-12-2010, 07:01 PM
After watching that video, "I'm learning not to like Terry". Thankfully I remember how he left the city when his career ended so it's not hard for me to hate him. I love how he started the interview. "Now this is probably going to make National News" - he showed his motivations as soon as he opened his mouth.

Set-Man
04-12-2010, 07:03 PM
I think everyone already knows that Ben needs to change his ways. If he doesn't get it now, he never will but I think its time to support him. The truth will never be known but hopefully he did not rape that girl. I personally don't need Terry Bradshaw telling me that! He should have told Ben those things in private, in my opinion, even if they hate each other.

supa_fly_steeler
04-12-2010, 07:05 PM
Bradshaw has a right to speak about anything.

he was clutch and did the raping on the field.

IMO he should own the town lol

Leftoverhard
04-12-2010, 07:09 PM
I'm not that attractive, and neither is Ben.

That is quite the burn - and true. TB sure can be a crack-up although I agree, what a doosh with that "national news" crack.

devilsdancefloor
04-12-2010, 07:28 PM
TB is jsut echoing what A LOT of folks around here have been saying since the McNutty case cracked. Difference is he has a microphone in front of him and makes news. he is right Ben needs to reevaluate what he is doing. He is hurting himself, the steelers organization and worst yet steeler nation. I hope he doesn't take terrys talk the wrong way and he looks at himself and realizes hey i need to change what i am doing.

Prok
04-12-2010, 07:34 PM
It's like one giant anti-Ben bandwagon has rolled up on Steeler Nation. He's human and makes mistakes just like the rest of us. Geez, these ppl should let the dude get on with his life without piling on already.

Hey, hopefully it motivates Ben to get us to and win 5 SB's on his watch.

:tt:

tony hipchest
04-12-2010, 07:37 PM
Wow a pro athlete is an A-hole, what a revelation. Good thing I watch sports for heir athletic ability and not for how good of a person they are. I would be a miserable sports fan these days with that mindset.

Hmm Terry never made a mistake his whole career? I remember a time when people in Pgh couldn't stand Terry for how he treated the fans at the end of his career and the things he said about Pittsburgh, and how he wasn't embraced by the city till he came back and kissed butt a few years ago. I find it comical seeing some these analysts passing judgments on players knowing some of their own backgrounds. They act like we all just started watching sports last year.so terry is just an "analyst" ? :toofunny:

the fans turned on him (AFTER he brought the team an NFL record 4th lombardi, not vice versa.

as for his tainted background... lets examine-

#1 pick in the draft.
2X sb MVP
league MVP
1 of 2 QB's to win 4 championships.
HOF'er
steelers franchise leader in all relevant categories.
still relevant 25+ years after retirement.

ben might wanna pull his head out of his ass and listen to somebody like terry as opposed to thinking he is simply gonna steal his records.

or maybe ben should just go riding motorcycles again w/o a helmet to prove him wrong.

if art rooney were alive today his reaction to terrys comments would be- :applaudit:

his reaction to ben would be- :nono:

CaliStillersFan
04-12-2010, 07:51 PM
It's like one giant anti-Ben bandwagon has rolled up on Steeler Nation. He's human and makes mistakes just like the rest of us. Geez, these ppl should let the dude get on with his life without piling on already.

Hey, hopefully it motivates Ben to get us to and win 5 SB's on his watch.

:tt:

No doubt I wish the members of the morality police questioned their churches leadership as much as they do their athletes. Where's the public outcry for the Pope's head? They'd rather rip Ben or Tiger, but for some reason the Pope is a great man.

Hammer67
04-12-2010, 07:53 PM
I concur with Tony....Ben is just a ****y, immature athlete who thinks he is bullet proof. No one cares what Bradshaw thinks, but that doesn't change the fact that he is ABSOLUTELY right. While Ben can be the man *****, he should wait until the playing days are done otherwise he deals with the consequences. If I was his dad I would kick his ass.

I tend to think the reason his relationship soured with the city is when they booed him after getting hurt in the early 70's...

d2609j
04-12-2010, 07:54 PM
I wouldn't consider that ripping Ben. TB just saying it like it is. Ben's got no respect for anyone. Never has, never will. How about the press conference. Shows up unshaven, hair slicked back mullet, wearing a golf shirt, and reads off a index card. IMO he looked insincere and like a jack--s.

steeltheone
04-12-2010, 08:02 PM
TB is 100% right....And i am a huge Ben fan....

tube517
04-12-2010, 08:05 PM
I knew there was no love lost between them. All the time, Ben says "We aren't the Team of the 70's" While it is true Bradshaw was a complete Jerk when he left, he admitted in an NFL Films documentary (available on YouTube) what a jerk he was and he was completely remorseful and regretted all the dumb stuff he said. He also made peace with The Emperor.

Anyways, it seemed that there was tension between the two, especially after the motorcycle accident. Terry is no saint but Ben is pretty ****y. Maybe Terry wanted to reach out and give advice but it seems Ben gets his advice from Marino.

Cowher and Whis had their share of tension w/Ben. Seems like a disturbing trend.

zulater
04-12-2010, 08:12 PM
I see nothing wrong with anything TB said. He's more to than entitled to an opinion on the matter from a number of levels.

Kindjunior
04-12-2010, 08:12 PM
Good Job Terry :hatsoff:

tube517
04-12-2010, 08:18 PM
The internet was not around then so I am going by what Bradshaw said in the documentary. HE WAS THE ONE WHO SAID HE WAS A JERK. All I saw living in Virginia was his last game against the New York Jets in 1983 and that was it. I had no access to Pittsburgh papers or Pittsburgh TV.

How would you expect Terry to act when he left? We turned on him when he was struggling and then we treated him like god when we were winning... Sounds like our Eastern side of PA.. I do not blame Terry one bit..

CaliStillersFan
04-12-2010, 08:19 PM
so terry is just an "analyst" ? :toofunny:

Yes he is an analyst for Fox. If he wasn't speaking as an analyst he shouldn't have been behind a camera spouting his views. The Steelers defense in the 70's could have made Kordell Stewart a 4 time Super Bowl champion. I'm not trying to defend Ben over TB I think they are both probably aholes - aren't most athletes? See I watch sports because I like competition and watching their athletic ability not because I see them as perfect human beings that are supposed to live mistake free. I expect athletes to do stupid things, they are jocks that have been pampered and told that they're special since they were children. As long as they show up on Sunday and give 100% is all I expect from them.

I have no love for TB for the same reason I could care less about Bongtonio leaving, when they talk trash about fans or the organization then they can go play for some other loser. I know some in the Nation still love Terry and have forgiven him for his past transgressions, I'm just not one of them.

GodfatherofSoul
04-12-2010, 08:21 PM
As I recall, a lot of Steelers spent quite a bit of time snorting coke throughout the 70s. To listen to someone like Bradshaw, who has a graveyard full of skeletons in *his* closet, telling another player to "simmer down now" is a JOKE!!! The only difference is NOW the national media latches onto any word from any skank, who's tasted NFL ****,dribbles out of her mouth. All of these retired players conveniently forget about what *they* were doing during their playing days.

How many marriages has Bradshaw had?

And, WTF this skank says she doesn't want to press charges because it would be inconvenient for HER???? Bitch, you just accused a national figure of RAPE. Either step up like you've got a ****ing pair of nuts, or just shut the **** up!

Shoes
04-12-2010, 08:25 PM
It's like one giant anti-Ben bandwagon has rolled up on Steeler Nation. He's human and makes mistakes just like the rest of us. Geez, these ppl should let the dude get on with his life without piling on already.

Hey, hopefully it motivates Ben to get us to and win 5 SB's on his watch.

:tt:

You want to see anti- Ben......let him have a few bad games this season. The same fickle fans who defend him now will be ready to throw him to the dogs.

tony hipchest
04-12-2010, 08:27 PM
Yes he is an analyst for Fox. If he wasn't speaking as an analyst he shouldn't have been behind a camera spouting his views. The Steelers defense in the 70's could have made Kordell Stewart a 4 time Super Bowl champion. I'm not trying to defend Ben over TB I think they are both probably aholes - aren't most athletes? See I watch sports because I like competition and watching their athletic ability not because I see them as perfect human beings that are supposed to live mistake free. I expect athletes to do stupid things, they are jocks that have been pampered and told that they're special since they were children. As long as they show up on Sunday and give 100% is all I expect from them.

I have no love for TB for the same reason I could care less about Bongtonio leaving, when they talk trash about fans or the organization then they can go play for some other loser. I know some in the Nation still love Terry and have forgiven him for his past transgressions, I'm just not one of them.:chuckle:.. :doh:

As I recall, a lot of Steelers spent quite a bit of time snorting coke throughout the 70s. To listen to someone like Bradshaw, who has a graveyard full of skeletons in *his* closet, telling another player to "simmer down now" is a JOKE!!! The only difference is NOW the national media latches onto any word from any skank, who's tasted NFL ****,dribbles out of her mouth. All of these retired players conveniently forget about what *they* were doing during their playing days.

How many marriages has Bradshaw had?

!

:toofunny:...:dang:

carry on boys... :thumbsup:

:banging:

CaliStillersFan
04-12-2010, 08:28 PM
If the media treated athletes in the 70's like they do today, there is now way we would have won 4 super bowls. They would have had half our team thrown out of the league or suspended for conducting unbecoming LOL Between the coke, steroids, and all the crazy parties there wouldn't have been time to cover anything else during a nightly news broadcast. ;)

OneForTheToe
04-12-2010, 08:37 PM
Yes he is an analyst for Fox. If he wasn't speaking as an analyst he shouldn't have been behind a camera spouting his views. The Steelers defense in the 70's could have made Kordell Stewart a 4 time Super Bowl champion. .......

You can not be cereal. Did you see the second Super Bowl against the cowchips? Our D got torched in the second half. TB was the MVP for a reason.

Regardless of how you feel about TB's comments regarding Ben, or his comments about the organization shortly after he retired, he was one of the great clutch QB's in NFL history. I usually don't get exercised much over what people say on a message board, but when people make idiotic comments, with no factual basis, about past Steelers' greats, I get a little fired up.

CaliStillersFan
04-12-2010, 08:46 PM
I never said he wasn't a solid QB. My feelings about him are solely based on his attitude and things he said about Pittsburgher's and the Steelers organization. TB was the same prima dona QB just like Ben is today. I don't know how you all can come down on Ben while sitting here defending TB. And I'm the one making idiotic comments? LMAO whatever

OneForTheToe
04-12-2010, 08:46 PM
As I recall, a lot of Steelers spent quite a bit of time snorting coke throughout the 70s. To listen to someone like Bradshaw, who has a graveyard full of skeletons in *his* closet, telling another player to "simmer down now" is a JOKE!!! The only difference is NOW the national media latches onto any word from any skank, who's tasted NFL ****,dribbles out of her mouth. All of these retired players conveniently forget about what *they* were doing during their playing days.

How many marriages has Bradshaw had?

And, WTF this skank says she doesn't want to press charges because it would be inconvenient for HER???? Bitch, you just accused a national figure of RAPE. Either step up like you've got a ****ing pair of nuts, or just shut the **** up!


I'm sorry. I missed the evidence that Bradshaw was using coke in the 70's. Besides, according to "Hollywood Henderson," Bradshaw couldn't spell coke if you spotted him the c,k and e. :wink02:

OneForTheToe
04-12-2010, 08:50 PM
I never said he wasn't a solid QB. My feelings about him are solely based on his attitude and things he said about Pittsburgher's and the Steelers organization. TB was the same prima dona QB just like Ben is today. I don't know how you all can come down on Ben while sitting here defending TB. And I'm the one making idiotic comments? LMAO whatever


No, your comment was:

The Steelers defense in the 70's could have made Kordell Stewart a 4 time Super Bowl champion. .......


That has nothing to do with his attitude.

And, for the record, I am one of Ben's biggest defenders when members here start ripping his play (i.e. he holds the ball too long). My problem is not with Ben's play, but the comments about TB.

CaliStillersFan
04-12-2010, 09:04 PM
Again where in my comment did it say that Bradshaw sucked? With the steel curtain defense, an amazing offensive line and Rocky and Franco in the back field, yes I believe Kordell would have been a 4 time SB champion with that team.

If you're going to call someone out for making stupid comments, try reading them first before following them up with stupid comments of your own. ;)

OneForTheToe
04-12-2010, 09:11 PM
Again where in my comment did it say that Bradshaw sucked? With the steel curtain defense, an amazing offensive line and Rocky and Franco in the back field, yes I believe Kordell would have been a 4 time SB champion with that team.

If you're going to call someone out for making stupid comments, try reading them first before following them up with stupid comments of your own. ;)

I did read it. I have no problem with comprehension. What I read was you stating that the Steelers could have won 4 Super Bowls with Kordell at QB. I'm sorry, but that is an idiotic idea. That is not a reading problem.

tony hipchest
04-12-2010, 09:11 PM
I never said he wasn't a solid QB. My feelings about him are solely based on his attitude and things he said about Pittsburgher's and the Steelers organization. TB was the same prima dona QB just like Ben is today. I don't know how you all can come down on Ben while sitting here defending TB. And I'm the one making idiotic comments? LMAO whateveri thought as much. please tell us about his attitude or what he said about pittsburghers, or the steelers org.

serious question. is you age closer to age 40 or 20? im guessing you are under 30 and have no reall clue about bradshaws career.

he never lied near death on the side of the road. he never was accused of rape. he was never blackballed from attending team practices due to being a distraction. he never faced any impending charges or possible suspensions from the team or league. he never was an embarrassement to the franchise.

bradshaw simply left town and never came back (until a few years ago). im sorry you are butt hurt about that but i cant hold that against him. its not like you or pittsburgh were his bride (although you are acting like a jilted lover).

MasterOfPuppets
04-12-2010, 09:14 PM
No doubt I wish the members of the morality police questioned their churches leadership as much as they do their athletes. Where's the public outcry for the Pope's head? They'd rather rip Ben or Tiger, but for some reason the Pope is a great man. i hear ya .. people have no problem supporting and handing over thier cash to an organization that harbors pedophiles... :doh:

T.Richardson
04-12-2010, 09:37 PM
im sorry, but you guys cant just say Ben is the embarrassment of the organization. First off, the Steelers arent perfect, neither is Ben. People are telling Ben that he is the leader and shouldnt put himself in the position to get into trouble? uhh.. Ben could go anywhere and put himself in the position to get into trouble, HELL Ben could have gone to freaking Wal Mart, and some pregnant lady could press charges on Ben for pushing her pregnant ass.. seriously.. telling Ben what to do with his life is the single most retarded thing ever. Its better to have a happy QB than a QB who has people restricting his life and being unhappy. Secondly, Ben isnt the only one who has gotten in trouble. James Harrison, the Silverback that you people praise.. he got in trouble with the law, or Jeff Reed who got in trouble with the law.. and dont give me this "ben is the leader" bs.. just because he is the leader doesnt mean that Harrison or Jeff Reed get passes because they arent leaders, they should get the same treatment.

xbroughneck
04-12-2010, 09:43 PM
This is all I could find...

http://www.ktbs.com/news/bradshaw-steelers-qb-needs-to-watch-himself/


Posted: Apr 12, 2010 6:05 PM
Updated: Apr 12, 2010 6:15 PM


"If you're single and walking into a bar with beautiful women and have them just fill your ego up -- and you ask yourself, would they pay any attention to you if you weren't who you are? Of course not. I'm not that attractive, and neither is Ben. So it's nice that you can do that."
.

G#D DAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMNNNN!!!!! :popcorn::rofl:

Thems fightin words.

And true. :toofunny:

BlastFurnace
04-12-2010, 09:56 PM
http://www.ktbs.com/player/?video_id=26835&zone=2&categories=2

Video of Terry speaking about it. Terry is dead on right.

Thanks for the link Preacher.

Terry is still not only the greatest Steeler QB of all time, but still the smartest.

BlastFurnace
04-12-2010, 09:58 PM
i thought as much. please tell us about his attitude or what he said about pittsburghers, or the steelers org.

serious question. is you age closer to age 40 or 20? im guessing you are under 30 and have no reall clue about bradshaws career.

he never lied near death on the side of the road. he never was accused of rape. he was never blackballed from attending team practices due to being a distraction. he never faced any impending charges or possible suspensions from the team or league. he never was an embarrassement to the franchise.

bradshaw simply left town and never came back (until a few years ago). im sorry you are butt hurt about that but i cant hold that against him. its not like you or pittsburgh were his bride (although you are acting like a jilted lover).

Nice comments Tony. Many who comment on Bradshaw never saw him play. Bradshaw was never in the headlines for the dumb things Ben has done.

xbroughneck
04-12-2010, 09:58 PM
The Steelers defense in the 70's could have made Kordell Stewart a 4 time Super Bowl champion.

No. Because Kordell would have either...

1) short hopped quite a few passes to Stallworth and Swann
2) thrown a pick or two at the worst possible moment.

Don't go off half ****ed because you're being protective of Ben. The point is that he LEARN from his mistakes. He didn't learn from the first one so he should expect for @#%@ to hit the fan. For people to question whether he thinks about anyone but himself.

I'm all for giving the guy a break once he's earned it. Not just because he's a good QB on my favorite NFL team, but because I believe most people can learn from their mistakes.

Ben needs to show that he's learned that there are things he cannot do as the QB for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

xbroughneck
04-12-2010, 10:01 PM
Nice comments Tony. Many who comment on Bradshaw never saw him play. Bradshaw was never in the headlines for the dumb things Ben has done.

OK. Let's be fair here.

We don't know what Terry may have done that was on the level of what Ben has been accused of. This is a totally different era with information on what a person does a simple iPad search away.

It would have been MUCH easier for an NFL player to unnoticed for doing something wrong in the 70s than it would be now. That's just a fact.

CaliStillersFan
04-12-2010, 10:02 PM
serious question. is you age closer to age 40 or 20? im guessing you are under 30 and have no reall clue about bradshaws career.


I'm 42 born in 68 the summer of love, I was quite old enough back then to know what I'm talking about. So are all my family members that can't stand TB either. Funny though because I was thinking the same thing about those you defending TB while coming down on Ben. I was like how can they not remember Terry's rep, maybe they are too young. :)

Again I didn't say TB sucked, read it a 3rd time maybe you'll see what I was saying. TB didn't carry the team, the team carried him. He's the same dumb blonde arrogant jock that Ben is today. The only difference is that ESPN didn't exist back then and every professional athlete didn't have the media following them around 24x7. I know it sounds crazy but sports journalists actually wrote about sports back then unlike the garbage journalists of today.

BlastFurnace
04-12-2010, 10:04 PM
Yes he is an analyst for Fox. If he wasn't speaking as an analyst he shouldn't have been behind a camera spouting his views. The Steelers defense in the 70's could have made Kordell Stewart a 4 time Super Bowl champion. .

Did you even see the 70's Steelers play?

The offense was the primary reason they won in 78 and 79. Bradshaw and Swann were a huge reason they won Super Bowl X.

Kordell would have killed as much grass on the 70's fields as he did in the 90's.

Prok
04-12-2010, 10:04 PM
OK. Let's be fair here.

We don't know what Terry may have done that was on the level of what Ben has been accused of. This is a totally different era with information on what a person does a simple iPad search away.

It would have been MUCH easier for an NFL player to unnoticed for doing something wrong in the 70s than it would be now. That's just a fact.

At some point in the future i expect Ben and Terry to shake hands like men and get past this crap. :tt:

BlastFurnace
04-12-2010, 10:06 PM
OK. Let's be fair here.

We don't know what Terry may have done that was on the level of what Ben has been accused of. This is a totally different era with information on what a person does a simple iPad search away.

It would have been MUCH easier for an NFL player to unnoticed for doing something wrong in the 70s than it would be now. That's just a fact.

But...there have been enough books and stories written about the 70's Steelers that would have brought such behavior by Terry into light if in fact it had occurred.

BlastFurnace
04-12-2010, 10:08 PM
No. Because Kordell would have either...

1) short hopped quite a few passes to Stallworth and Swann
2) thrown a pick or two at the worst possible moment.

Don't go off half ****ed because you're being protective of Ben. The point is that he LEARN from his mistakes. He didn't learn from the first one so he should expect for @#%@ to hit the fan. For people to question whether he thinks about anyone but himself.

I'm all for giving the guy a break once he's earned it. Not just because he's a good QB on my favorite NFL team, but because I believe most people can learn from their mistakes.

Ben needs to show that he's learned that there are things he cannot do as the QB for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

:applaudit::applaudit::applaudit:

Shea
04-12-2010, 10:10 PM
Bradshaw was spot on with his comments.

Probably, the only thing within those comments that will resonate with Ben and be in agreement with - due to what he's shown up to this point - is that he will now hate Bradshaw forever. Instead of taking in what was said and also taking into account that he handled Bradshaw's previous advice regarding the motorcycle inappropriately, and I'm skeptical that these words will be anything but dismissed.

Ben's shown in the past that he's a pouty child when it comes to such matters and relationships.

Hopefully, this latest incident has finally woken his ass up and he'll start handling his life and the people, including the fans, within it better.

Very happy that Ben won't be facing charges, and we'll have him under center this year but - and I'm sorry if this is offends some fans - he's on thin ice with me and I'm actually a bit tired of him.

BlastFurnace
04-12-2010, 10:13 PM
One thing is for sure, it will get really ugly for Ben in Pittsburgh if he has a bad season.

steelerdude15
04-12-2010, 10:24 PM
Boy... things are getting more stupid as time goes by. Why can't it be kickoff weekend?

OneForTheToe
04-12-2010, 10:26 PM
I'm 42 born in 68 the summer of love, I was quite old enough back then to know what I'm talking about. So are all my family members that can't stand TB either. Funny though because I was thinking the same thing about those you defending TB while coming down on Ben. I was like how can they not remember Terry's rep, maybe they are too young. :)

Again I didn't say TB sucked, read it a 3rd time maybe you'll see what I was saying. TB didn't carry the team, the team carried him. He's the same dumb blonde arrogant jock that Ben is today. The only difference is that ESPN didn't exist back then and every professional athlete didn't have the media following them around 24x7. I know it sounds crazy but sports journalists actually wrote about sports back then unlike the garbage journalists of today.


So your whole family hates him. Wow, my family usually just aims its venom at each other.:noidea:


But you are saying TB sucks when you state that QB who couldn't even cut it as a starter in the NFL would have won as many Super Bowls. That would be like saying to Wynton Marsalis, "my JR High Band teacher is a better trumpet player than you ... but no offense."

BTW, I am not hating on Ben ... just correcting the ridiculous slant on TB's skills. Personally, I think TB should have declined comment, until he was on the FOX NFL set. Nobody should ever talk into an open mike after playing around of golf, unless your name is Tiger or Phil.

fansince'76
04-12-2010, 10:28 PM
No. Because Kordell would have either...

1) short hopped quite a few passes to Stallworth and Swann

....or rocketed them 10 feet over their heads out of bounds....

2) thrown a pick or two at the worst possible moment.

....or 3, or 4....

RoethlisBURGHer
04-12-2010, 10:46 PM
First off, I agree with everything Ben said.

Second, I don't understand all the venom some fans have towards Bradshaw. The fans treated him like crap early in his career, there was a Bradshaw doll being hung in effigy at Three Rivers. He was literally afraid to come out of his house!

He won four Super Bowls while with the Steelers. He never ended up in the news for the wrong reasons while he donned a Steelers jersey. He should be loved, but instead so many hate him because of words he spoke in anger when his career ended.

If you felt an entire town of people hated you with such passion as Terry Bradshaw felt Steelers fans did, would you go back to that town or stay away?

CaliStillersFan
04-12-2010, 10:48 PM
My original point was that I found it hypocritical of those of you jumping on TB's side thinking he was somehow different or better (morally not statistically) than Ben. I see them both as arrogant asses that care more about themselves than the team. But for some reason TB is still a god in some fans eyes. The media is what is different today not the athletes. Jocks have been doing stupid jock things since before I was born and they will continue to do so long after I'm gone.

I love when I post my "opinion" online then told that my "opinion" is wrong or baseless, it always makes for such pleasant conversations.

MACH1
04-12-2010, 10:56 PM
My original point was that I found it hypocritical of those of you jumping on TB's side thinking he was somehow different or better (morally not statistically) than Ben. I see them both as arrogant asses that care more about themselves than the team. But for some reason TB is still a god in some fans eyes. The media is what is different today not the athletes. Jocks have been doing stupid jock things since before I was born and they will continue to do so long after I'm gone.

I love when I post my "opinion" online then told that my "opinion" is wrong or baseless, it always makes for such pleasant conversations.

That's because they mostly are.
Bottom line the Steelers don't win 4 SB's without TB. And yes I was alive for those games, very young, about your age, but I do remember them.

Shoes
04-12-2010, 11:02 PM
Well, I had enough excitement for one day. Think I'll stop over and see Florio at PFT and get a good laugh before I hit the sack, :chuckle:

steelerdude15
04-12-2010, 11:04 PM
http://www.amcgltd.com/archives/lovethread.jpg

wootawnee
04-13-2010, 12:34 AM
I saw Brad's interveiw clip...........He is right on.........Terry is a very wise individual......I respect everything he says when he is being serious like that.............The real deal.....

wootawnee
04-13-2010, 12:38 AM
Brad wasn't reading from no card either.....He was talking straight from the heart.......

Ben sure looked dumb reading from that card......He should learn to talk from his heart.......

wootawnee
04-13-2010, 12:43 AM
My original point was that I found it hypocritical of those of you jumping on TB's side thinking he was somehow different or better (morally not statistically) than Ben. I see them both as arrogant asses that care more about themselves than the team. But for some reason TB is still a god in some fans eyes. The media is what is different today not the athletes. Jocks have been doing stupid jock things since before I was born and they will continue to do so long after I'm gone.

I love when I post my "opinion" online then told that my "opinion" is wrong or baseless, it always makes for such pleasant conversations.

Dude you talk like you won 4 rings...........Terry called the plays man........Terry was not arrogant.....I thought you would realize this with your deadhead steeler logo...........You missed the bus........

JackHammer
04-13-2010, 01:09 AM
Is this the same Terry Bradshaw that basically gave the Steelers organization the middle finger for quite some time?...

It is, and that doesn't make anything he said less true. He was spot on.

Gnutella
04-13-2010, 04:56 AM
Regarding Terry Bradshaw, at least he's man enough to forgive Steeler fans and the city of Pittsburgh even though many of them still aren't man enough to respect him. Bradshaw is my favorite old-school Steeler by far, because he has a good heart, unlike those Steeler fans who are still resentful of what he said in ****ing 1984! Get over it!

Regarding Ben Roethlisberger, I hope he feels like the loneliest man on earth right now. I hope he's cried himself to sleep a few times. I won't believe he has a conscience until I see him cry. I've been a fan of the Steelers since 1993, and this is the most enraged and embarrassed I've ever felt as a fan. I don't need choir boys on my team, but having an ounce of class shouldn't be too much to ask. And now that he's issued a public apology and promised to make amends, I'll tell him the same thing I've told everybody who still says he's guilty of rape even after the D.A. found nothing: PROVE IT!!! :mad:

Steelers>NFL
04-13-2010, 07:14 AM
Way to go TB. Tell it like it is. Ben is grown spoiled brat!

BigBen'sSwagger
04-13-2010, 09:11 AM
I'm 42 born in 68 the summer of love, I was quite old enough back then to know what I'm talking about. So are all my family members that can't stand TB either. Funny though because I was thinking the same thing about those you defending TB while coming down on Ben. I was like how can they not remember Terry's rep, maybe they are too young. :)

Again I didn't say TB sucked, read it a 3rd time maybe you'll see what I was saying. TB didn't carry the team, the team carried him. He's the same dumb blonde arrogant jock that Ben is today. The only difference is that ESPN didn't exist back then and every professional athlete didn't have the media following them around 24x7. I know it sounds crazy but sports journalists actually wrote about sports back then unlike the garbage journalists of today.

You make some interesting points but for sake of argument isn't it the same press that covers Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Hines Ward and Heath Miller? The same press that will beat a player over the head for any inmoral infraction??? Those guys all stay pretty much outta trouble so why is it so hard for Ben??? Ben can't even say he came from a bad home or a rough neighborhood, and you would also think he would have learned the 1st time.

I like Ben but it is time for him to step up to the plate. I am glad he wasn't traded or let go and even though I can see why the team did it I am not pleased that we got rid of Santonio for a lowly 5th rounder. I will have to learn to live with it, but that is another topic.

Dino 6 Rings
04-13-2010, 09:47 AM
Terry Bradshaw is correct in everything he says about Ben.

For you "anti-Terry" folks, you sound like the people complaining about your own father's advice. Terry lived it, Terry was the QB of a 4 time winning SB Team, without Terry on the Team they win Zero Super Bowls. Bottom line. We all recognize that a Franchise QB makes all the difference. Terry was the Franchise QB of the Greatest Franchise in the History of the League, winning 4 Super Bowls in 6 Seasons. The only team to Repeat Twice. Terry made it happen because he Lead the Team.

Yes, there were a ton of Hall of Fame players on the 70s team, but Terry was the piece that put them over the top. Just as Ben is the piece today. Without Ben at QB, we don't win Super Bowl 40 or Super Bowl 43. Bottom line, the QB is the most important player on a team.

Sure, site me the Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer examples, that's fine, I'll site you the Bradshaw, Montana, Elway, Brady, Starr, Staubach, Aikmen, examples. Without those QBs, those teams don't win it all.

So Ben should listen to his "father" and keep his effing nose clean. Stop being a punk, Terry knows what he's talking about, he's been there, he's Done That. Only difference is Terry did it FOUR times.

SteelMember
04-13-2010, 10:00 AM
Dino, your point about his father/parent is exactly what I took from this.

Terry is just offering advice, and Ben is just ignoring it like any teenager might roll his/her eyes at their parents giving them the talk.

Some kids think they are smarter, and have it all figued out. Unfortunately, they will come to realize that the advice they were given was indeed helpful, but they eventually end up learning it the same way their parents did... By finding it out for themselves. :noidea:

GodfatherofSoul
04-13-2010, 10:11 AM
I'm sorry. I missed the evidence that Bradshaw was using coke in the 70's. Besides, according to "Hollywood Henderson," Bradshaw couldn't spell coke if you spotted him the c,k and e. :wink02:

Do I have a picture of him snorting a line? No. But, I used to listen to the Don Imus morning show and they both used to hang out in the 70s when Imus was a big addict. From their conversations of the time, it seemed to me they were both users.

memphissteelergirl
04-13-2010, 11:05 AM
I don't need choir boys on my team, but having an ounce of class shouldn't be too much to ask. And now that he's issued a public apology and promised to make amends, I'll tell him the same thing I've told everybody who still says he's guilty of rape even after the D.A. found nothing: PROVE IT!!! :mad:


:applaudit::hatsoff:

delhess
04-13-2010, 11:14 AM
i haven't been to this forum for quite some time. happy to see it is alive and well.

i've gotta say that i'm with terry on this one. i'm glad to see him stand up and speak his mind. i see nothing wrong with it, and he has every right to call ben out. well said mr bradshaw.

SteelGhost
04-13-2010, 11:15 AM
Terry Bradshaw is correct in everything he says about Ben.

For you "anti-Terry" folks, you sound like the people complaining about your own father's advice. Terry lived it, Terry was the QB of a 4 time winning SB Team, without Terry on the Team they win Zero Super Bowls. Bottom line. We all recognize that a Franchise QB makes all the difference. Terry was the Franchise QB of the Greatest Franchise in the History of the League, winning 4 Super Bowls in 6 Seasons. The only team to Repeat Twice. Terry made it happen because he Lead the Team.

Yes, there were a ton of Hall of Fame players on the 70s team, but Terry was the piece that put them over the top. Just as Ben is the piece today. Without Ben at QB, we don't win Super Bowl 40 or Super Bowl 43. Bottom line, the QB is the most important player on a team.

Sure, site me the Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer examples, that's fine, I'll site you the Bradshaw, Montana, Elway, Brady, Starr, Staubach, Aikmen, examples. Without those QBs, those teams don't win it all.

So Ben should listen to his "father" and keep his effing nose clean. Stop being a punk, Terry knows what he's talking about, he's been there, he's Done That. Only difference is Terry did it FOUR times.

Money post Dino :hatsoff:

welder4pit
04-13-2010, 06:04 PM
so terry is just an "analyst" ? :toofunny:

the fans turned on him (AFTER he brought the team an NFL record 4th lombardi, not vice versa.

as for his tainted background... lets examine-

#1 pick in the draft.
2X sb MVP
league MVP
1 of 2 QB's to win 4 championships.
HOF'er
steelers franchise leader in all relevant categories.
still relevant 25+ years after retirement.

ben might wanna pull his head out of his ass and listen to somebody like terry as opposed to thinking he is simply gonna steal his records.

or maybe ben should just go riding motorcycles again w/o a helmet to prove him wrong.

if art rooney were alive today his reaction to terrys comments would be- :applaudit:

his reaction to ben would be- :nono: All of this is right on. Im glad someone has enough class and smarts to know 4 came before 5 and 6. Lets face it ben in my opinion the steelers won their 5th sb inspite of their qb not because of him.

wiz1120
04-13-2010, 11:38 PM
Why Terry? Why?

If you want to say something about Ben, why not say it in private? Why go public with this thing? This is just embarassing as a city to see our 2 best quarterbacks arguing with the media because they can't get along in person.

Last time I checked, even Ben was mature enough to not rip somebody to the media.

Terry, you just joined the likes of Terrel Owens in my book for ripping somebody publicly.

Gnutella
04-13-2010, 11:48 PM
Bradshaw was having a meet-and-greet with the press, and somebody asked him what he thought about Roethlisberger's situation. Big deal. And no, it's really not like Terrell Owens, who's been guilty of publicly criticizing teammates. Bradshaw has been retired for 26 years. Furthermore, he is a member of the media with a contract with FOX Sports.

wiz1120
04-13-2010, 11:52 PM
Bradshaw was having a meet-and-greet with the press, and somebody asked him what he thought about Roethlisberger's situation. Big deal. And no, it's really not like Terrell Owens, who's been guilty of publicly criticizing teammates. Bradshaw has been retired for 26 years. Furthermore, he is a member of the media with a contract with FOX Sports.

Obviously, it's not the same situation as Terrel Owens. But Owens could never settle it man to man with his quarterbacks, he always went to the media, similar to Bradshaw.

But Bradshaw knew the situation. What does ripping him in public accomplish?

Gnutella
04-14-2010, 12:19 AM
Obviously, it's not the same situation as Terrel Owens. But Owens could never settle it man to man with his quarterbacks, he always went to the media, similar to Bradshaw.

But Bradshaw knew the situation. What does ripping him in public accomplish?

Roethlisberger won't listen to Bradshaw regardless, so it doesn't matter whether Bradshaw opines in public or private.

rbryan
04-14-2010, 02:18 AM
First of all...I still love both of these guys. My gut tells me Big Ben doesn't need to rape anyone but he obviously doesn't have any common sense.. Problem is I didn't either at 28 so it's hard for me to criticize.

Wonder how many times TB banged someone in the BR?? His personal life was...is....and will forever be a train wreck. How many times do you suppose an NFL player has done someone in a public bathroom?

I ran a nightclub in Atlanta for years. Before you get all misty eyed over the poor 20 year old virgin who was taken advantage of......let me interject......any girl that agrees to go into the BR for sex has already done it before. .......Many Times.......They start young in GA....... Nuff said

WH
04-14-2010, 03:02 AM
I agree with Bradshaw.


I'm telling you guys. Ben NEEDS to carry a sexual contract agreement around with him.

HometownGal
04-14-2010, 05:37 AM
Anyone who was around back in the day when Brad was our QB knows that he pulls no punches. Whether Ben "likes" him or not - maybe being publicly ostracized by a HOF QB who also played for the same team and has 4 SB rings will have a positive effect on him. :hope:

WeegiesWarriors
04-14-2010, 05:38 AM
Didnt read all responses so probably already said. Bradshaw was probably practicing that diatribe for the past 2 months in front of a mirror. He got exactly what he wanted... national attention to some sort of charity that otherwise wouldn't have been mentioned.

atlsteelers
04-14-2010, 08:55 AM
Anyone who was around back in the day when Brad was our QB knows that he pulls no punches. Whether Ben "likes" him or not - maybe being publicly ostracized by a HOF QB who also played for the same team and has 4 SB rings will have a positive effect on him. :hope:

i hope you are correct. but ben's prewritten media statement showed very little contrition.

WH
04-14-2010, 10:02 AM
Anyone who was around back in the day when Brad was our QB knows that he pulls no punches. Whether Ben "likes" him or not - maybe being publicly ostracized by a HOF QB who also played for the same team and has 4 SB rings will have a positive effect on him. :hope:

We thought having a women in Nevada accusing him of sexual assault would have a positive affect. Man, were we wrong.

atlsteelers
04-14-2010, 10:39 AM
We thought having a women in Nevada accusing him of sexual assault would have a positive affect. Man, were we wrong.

great point - if being accused once did not change or modify his behavior why should we expect anything different this time.

Bng_Hevn
04-14-2010, 12:08 PM
Yes he is an analyst for Fox. If he wasn't speaking as an analyst he shouldn't have been behind a camera spouting his views. The Steelers defense in the 70's could have made Kordell Stewart a 4 time Super Bowl champion. I'm not trying to defend Ben over TB I think they are both probably aholes - aren't most athletes? See I watch sports because I like competition and watching their athletic ability not because I see them as perfect human beings that are supposed to live mistake free. I expect athletes to do stupid things, they are jocks that have been pampered and told that they're special since they were children. As long as they show up on Sunday and give 100% is all I expect from them.

I have no love for TB for the same reason I could care less about Bongtonio leaving, when they talk trash about fans or the organization then they can go play for some other loser. I know some in the Nation still love Terry and have forgiven him for his past transgressions, I'm just not one of them.

Watch some of those games and you'd be nuts to say KS could even make the playoffs.

WH
04-14-2010, 12:21 PM
Kordell Stewart would have shattered into a thousand pieces if Joe Jones does to him what he did to Terry Bradshaw.

drizze99
04-14-2010, 12:34 PM
Terry Bradshaw is correct in everything he says about Ben.

For you "anti-Terry" folks, you sound like the people complaining about your own father's advice. Terry lived it, Terry was the QB of a 4 time winning SB Team, without Terry on the Team they win Zero Super Bowls. Bottom line. We all recognize that a Franchise QB makes all the difference. Terry was the Franchise QB of the Greatest Franchise in the History of the League, winning 4 Super Bowls in 6 Seasons. The only team to Repeat Twice. Terry made it happen because he Lead the Team.

Yes, there were a ton of Hall of Fame players on the 70s team, but Terry was the piece that put them over the top. Just as Ben is the piece today. Without Ben at QB, we don't win Super Bowl 40 or Super Bowl 43. Bottom line, the QB is the most important player on a team.

Sure, site me the Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer examples, that's fine, I'll site you the Bradshaw, Montana, Elway, Brady, Starr, Staubach, Aikmen, examples. Without those QBs, those teams don't win it all.

So Ben should listen to his "father" and keep his effing nose clean. Stop being a punk, Terry knows what he's talking about, he's been there, he's Done That. Only difference is Terry did it FOUR times.

Amen brother...

LVSteelersfan
04-14-2010, 01:07 PM
You tell em TB. Ben needs to get his head out and start being a man, not some young spoiled punk who is a legend in his own mind. I suspect Ben is not bright enough to listen to anyone's advice on anything. He should be hitting the film study and learn how to be a Bradyesqe (oops, I think I just threw up in my mouth a little), Peyton Manning type of player. Somehow I don't think he has the smarts to learn how to read a defense even if he tried. I hate to say it, but I think the man who can't spell cat if you spotted him the c and the a is a much smarter, wiser man than Ben will ever be.

tube517
04-14-2010, 01:12 PM
Either that or KS would've escaped and thrown a Pick 6

Kordell Stewart would have shattered into a thousand pieces if Joe Jones does to him what he did to Terry Bradshaw.

SteelersinCA
04-14-2010, 01:20 PM
Now I know why I watch Fox instead of ESPN on Sunday mornings, TB is king!!

kirklandrules
04-14-2010, 01:24 PM
I'm with TB on this one as well. The only thing that guy is saying is that an older "legend" offered advice way back before all of Ben's problems started and was subsequently sh!t on for providing that advice. Back in the day, young studs used to respect the older guys. Now you have these arrogant young bucks coming out pissing on everybody that blazed the trail before them. TB most likely wouldn't have said a thing if Ben just said "thanks for the advice" and yet didn't act on it. But it sounds as if he went out of his way to crap on the guy for trying to help him out. I'm not a Ben hater as he obviously donates his time and money for good causes and makes the attempt to be friendly, but some of these things we are hearing are troubling. He needs to start whooping the golfers from the LPGA again ... that kept him out of trouble for a brief time.

Prok
04-14-2010, 01:31 PM
As far as i'm concerned Terry and Ben are BOTH in the Steeler family. It is my hope that they make up at some point and shake hands as men.

And i really think one day we will see that.

:tt:

Stanley
04-14-2010, 03:25 PM
Link please must watch

Here is the link to the You Tube vid of Bradshay talking about Roethlisberger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCpjyv6retg

austinfrench76
04-14-2010, 06:38 PM
That Bradshaw video is hilarious!!!!!!!!!!

SteelerEmpire
04-14-2010, 06:51 PM
I don't think it really was too cool for Bradshaw to put him and Ben's differences out on public display though... I think it was unnecessary...

polamalubeast
04-14-2010, 08:02 PM
Bradshaw willing to help Roethlisberger
Buzz up!By Scott Brown, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, April 14, 2010
Last updated: 7:50 pm


Terry Bradshaw, who criticized Ben Roethlisberger earlier this week, said he would welcome the opportunity to meet with the beleaguered Steelers quarterback and offer advice.

"I would like for nothing better than for him to reach out to me, because I think it's bull there's this tension between me and him that shouldn't be there," Bradshaw told the Tribune-Review today in a phone interview. "I think he could care less what I think. If he would want to (talk) I would be more than glad to do it. My read on him and my feedback from friends, it ain't going to happen."

Bradshaw said Monday at a charity golf outing at Louisiana Tech, his alma mater, that Roethlisberger is jeopardizing his career with reckless behavior.

Roethlisberger has been accused of sexual assault twice since July.

He met with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell on Tuesday, a day after learning that he won't be charged after a 20-year-old college student accused him of sexual assault March 5 in Milledgeville, Ga.

Bradshaw reiterated that Roethlisberger, who worked out at the Steelers' practice facility today, is jeopardizing his career with reckless behavior.

"My honesty says this: clean your act up," said Bradshaw, the iconic quarterback who led the Steelers to four Super Bowl titles in the 1970s. "You are about to (throw) away a career. If you need help, the Rooneys will get you help. If you need to fire the bodyguards, then you have get get rid of them. Build a wall around yourself. Dedicate yourself to your career. He's on the right path of being one of the greatest that ever played and now he's dragging baggage with him."

Bradshaw said Roethlisberger has been chilly toward him since he said the latter needs to "park the bike." That was in reference to Roethlisberger riding a motorcycle. The comment came before Roethlisberger sustained life-threatening injuries in a motorcycle accident in June of 2006.

"I know he doesn't like me and that's fine," Bradshaw said. "I don't lose sleep over it."

stillers4me
04-14-2010, 08:12 PM
Terry should never have made this public. It makes him really look arrogant. If he really wanted to help Ben, he'd contact him privately, but this is just makes him look like everybody else that wants to pile it on while while the subject is hot and Ben is at his lowest point. No wonder Ben doesn't want anything to do with it. Terry doesn't seem sincere....he just wants to lecture, and I don't care who you are or how old you are, nobody wants to be lectured. I'm sure he already got that from Goodell, Tomlin and the Rooney's.

Ben needs real help from people who really care about him. It's a shame he lost the coach that meant the world to him. He really needs Coach Hep right now.

Steelerfreak58
04-14-2010, 08:16 PM
Terry is dead on correct at this point. Ben should reach out to him and take some advice from a veteran who has been there and done it for the the city. The best thing the young man could do us look for a mentor like Terry and quit being so aloof about his actions. He has so far proven to be very reckless in his choices I am not saying he is guilty but man the kid isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

fansince'76
04-14-2010, 08:21 PM
Terry should never have made this public. It makes him really look arrogant. If he really wanted to help Ben, he'd contact him privately, but this is just makes him look like everybody else that wants to pile it on while while the subject is hot and Ben is at his lowest point. No wonder Ben doesn't want anything to do with it. Terry doesn't seem sincere....he just wants to lecture, and i don't care who you are aor how old you are, nobody wants to be lectured.

Ben needs real help from people who really care about him.

We have a winnah! :thumbsup:

Love TB as much as any longtime fan, but the public airing of his and Ben's grievances were not cool. Especially in light of the way Ben used to get shit on for taking public jabs at Cowher (which were just as uncool and uncalled for). Difference is, Ben was about 25 at the time. TB is in his 60's and really should display more maturity than that.

Prok
04-14-2010, 09:33 PM
I don't think it really was too cool for Bradshaw to put him and Ben's differences out on public display though... I think it was unnecessary...

Yep. Who the F wants to take sides between our ONLY 2 franchise QB's the last few decades?

Terry is just as guilty of piling on as the rest of the holier than thou's who have never made bad choices in their lives.

FACT: None of us were there that night. PERIOD.

BOTH these players should apollogize and shake hands in the future imo.

Prok
04-14-2010, 09:35 PM
Ant another thing. Terry experienced the fickleness of the holy grail Steelers fans first hand in his day. I'm sure a part of him is relishing Ben getting the fickle bunch to turn on him as well.

Psyychoward86
04-14-2010, 10:04 PM
Terry should never have made this public. It makes him really look arrogant. If he really wanted to help Ben, he'd contact him privately, but this is just makes him look like everybody else that wants to pile it on while while the subject is hot and Ben is at his lowest point. No wonder Ben doesn't want anything to do with it. Terry doesn't seem sincere....he just wants to lecture, and I don't care who you are or how old you are, nobody wants to be lectured. I'm sure he already got that from Goodell, Tomlin and the Rooney's.

Ben needs real help from people who really care about him. It's a shame he lost the coach that meant the world to him. He really needs Coach Hep right now.

I thought the fact that this was so direct and public was admirable. Terry doesnt care about his self-image, he's just trying to help. I dont see what's wrong with a 4-time superbowl winner scolding a youngling. I dont even see what's wrong with him piling on Ben with a pseudo-tirade while he's sinking into his seat in despair. Ben deserves this, and he NEEDS this to learn from his mistakes.

Someone had to do something bold. Terry did it :hatsoff:

fansince'76
04-14-2010, 10:07 PM
Ant another thing. Terry experienced the fickleness of the holy grail Steelers fans first hand in his day. I'm sure a part of him is relishing Ben getting the fickle bunch to turn on him as well.

And when Ben pulls a TB and basically flips the bird at the Nation when he retires/moves on, it'll be just as deserved as it was when TB did it.

Psyychoward86
04-14-2010, 10:15 PM
Ant another thing. Terry experienced the fickleness of the holy grail Steelers fans first hand in his day. I'm sure a part of him is relishing Ben getting the fickle bunch to turn on him as well.

pshhh, oh yeah, it's very evident by the video that Terry isnt furious at all, he's just laughing behind that balding skull of his :rolleyes:

Gnutella
04-14-2010, 10:15 PM
Yep. Who the F wants to take sides between our ONLY 2 franchise QB's the last few decades?

Terry is just as guilty of piling on as the rest of the holier than thou's who have never made bad choices in their lives.

FACT: None of us were there that night. PERIOD.

BOTH these players should apollogize and shake hands in the future imo.

No, Bradshaw is not "piling on." Unlike many of the self-righteous shitheads on this board, he's at least willing to let Roethlisberger earn back his respect and admiration.

Shea
04-14-2010, 10:23 PM
I thought the fact that this was so direct and public was admirable. Terry doesnt care about his self-image, he's just trying to help. I dont see what's wrong with a 4-time superbowl winner scolding a youngling. I dont even see what's wrong with him piling on Ben with a pseudo-tirade while he's sinking into his seat in despair. Ben deserves this, and he NEEDS this to learn from his mistakes.

Someone had to do something bold. Terry did it :hatsoff:

Completely agree.

I applaud Bradshaw, and would even love to hear from other's within the organization, past or present, speaking their minds as well.

Ben needs to finally hear it, and the people around him need to quit coddling him as they have been doing during his career.

If he wasn't the QB, I seriously believe he'd be hearing a whole hell of a lot worse right now, and would probably already have been sent out of town.

He brought this on himself and I hope it keeps coming until it sinks into his thick head.

mesaSteeler
04-14-2010, 11:25 PM
Bradshaw: Big Ben deserves a suspension
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/print_676506.html
By Scott Brown
PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, April 15, 2010

Steelers icon Terry Bradshaw, who earlier this week criticized Ben Roethlisberger for reckless behavior, said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell should suspend the embattled quarterback for at least two games.

"Maybe four," Bradshaw told The Tribune-Review in a phone interview Wednesday. "I know the Rooneys are steaming. (One more incident), he's gone. They'll unload him. This family is revered in that city and around this great country and the National Football League, and they won't put up with this kind of stuff to win a football game."

Roethlisberger trained at the Steelers' practice facility yesterday for the first time since voluntary offseason workouts started March 29. His appearance at the facility came a day after he met with Goodell in New York City.

Roethlisberger has been accused of sexual assault twice since July, and he could be punished by the NFL for violating its personal conduct policy.

The Steelers also could discipline Roethlisberger, who learned Monday that he wouldn't be charged after a 20-year-old college student accused him of sexually assaulting her on March 5 in Milledgeville, Ga.

Bradshaw and Roethlisberger are two of only 10 quarterbacks to win multiple Super Bowls. The link between the two greatest quarterbacks in Steelers history may have compelled Bradshaw to speak out while at a charity golf outing at Louisiana Tech, his alma mater.

Bradshaw didn't back off his pointed comments yesterday.

"I've always been real good to him on TV, and he's deserved my good comments as well as he deserves my comments now," said Bradshaw, who is an NFL studio analyst for FOX. "My honesty says this: Clean your act up. You are about to (throw) away a career.

"If you need help, the Rooneys will get you help. If you need to fire the bodyguards, then you have get rid of them. Build a wall around yourself. Dedicate yourself to your career. He's on the right path of being one of the greatest that ever played, and now he's dragging baggage with him."

A crisis communications expert in Washington D.C. said Roethlisberger could help rehabilitate his image by getting support from people such as Bradshaw, one of only two quarterbacks to win four Super Bowls.

"If we were advising him, I'd make sure we had a real broad and diverse group of former players and former coaches by his side, weighing in and saying: 'I know Ben's had difficulties, but he's changed course. He has corrected his behavior,' " said Jason Maloni, vice president of Levick Strategic Communication's Crises and Litigation team.

Bradshaw said he would welcome an opportunity to meet with Roethlisberger and offer advice.

"I would like for nothing better than for him to reach out to me because I think it's bull there's this tension between me and him that shouldn't be there," Bradshaw said.

Bradshaw said Roethlisberger has been chilly toward him since he said Roethlisberger needs to "park the bike." That was in reference to Roethlisberger riding a motorcycle and was made before Roethlisberger's life-threatening motorcycle accident in June 2006.

Bradshaw said he doesn't expect to hear from Roethlisberger.

"I think he could care less what I think," Bradshaw said. "If he would want to (talk), I would be more than glad to do it. My read on him and my feedback from friends, it ain't going to happen."

Scott Brown can be reached at sbrown@tribweb.com or 412-481-5432.

fansince'76
04-14-2010, 11:36 PM
Bradshaw said he doesn't expect to hear from Roethlisberger.

"I think he could care less what I think," Bradshaw said. "If he would want to (talk), I would be more than glad to do it. My read on him and my feedback from friends, it ain't going to happen."

Then how about dropping it already, Terry?

HAWK
04-14-2010, 11:55 PM
Everyone's going to ride this one as long as they can.

The funny thing is that next year at this time this will all be a distant memory. There will be some other "controversy" to get excited about.

Shea
04-15-2010, 12:23 AM
Then how about dropping it already, Terry?

Because he's already held his tongue about the riff between him regarding Ben and the motorcycle for years, which was childish on Ben's part. This is a story that has been floating around for quite awhile and Terry just confirmed it.

Just another example of how petty and immature Ben can be.

Ben has screwed up in so many ways, and one being the way he treated those that came before him and those that will always be a member of the Steelers just like him - well assuming he finally grows up before his football career finds him in another city.

Keep it coming Bradshaw. :thumbsup:

Hammer67
04-15-2010, 06:16 AM
Then how about dropping it already, Terry?

He might if the media didn't ask him and about every other current and former Steeler about Ben every time they talked or promoted something....

supa_fly_steeler
04-15-2010, 01:25 PM
Terry Bradshaw: Steelers' Rooneys 'steaming' over Ben Roethlisberger, will 'unload' him with one more misstep
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2010/04/terry-bradshaw-steelers-rooneys-steaming-over-ben-roethlisberger-will-unload-him-with-one-more-misstep/1

Former Steelers great Terry Bradshaw said Wednesday that Ben Roethlisberger is one mistake away from being banished by the team and that the QB deserves a lengthy suspension.

Bradshaw, in comments to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, said the NFL should consider a suspension of "maybe four" games for Roethlisberger. A Georgia DA on Monday declined to prosecute the QB after a woman there accused him of a sexual assault.

But NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is considering imposing discipline on Roethlisberger.

Bradshaw told the Tribune-Review that Steelers owner Dan Rooney and his family have nearly had it with Roethlisberger:

"I know the Rooneys are steaming. (One more incident), he's gone. They'll unload him. This family is revered in that city and around this great country and the National Football League, and they won't put up with this kind of stuff to win a football game."

Dan Rooney declined to offer support for Roethlisberger when approached by reporters on Wednesday. -- Sean Leahy

Stone
04-15-2010, 02:03 PM
I didn't want to start a new thread, but Eli has spoken out in support of Ben...

Eli Manning on Big Ben: "I’ll be watching and supporting him”



Of couse, the only article that has it right now is a subscription site, but if I find the rest somewhere else, I will post it.

T.Richardson
04-15-2010, 02:06 PM
Because he's already held his tongue about the riff between him regarding Ben and the motorcycle for years, which was childish on Ben's part. This is a story that has been floating around for quite awhile and Terry just confirmed it.

Just another example of how petty and immature Ben can be.

Ben has screwed up in so many ways, and one being the way he treated those that came before him and those that will always be a member of the Steelers just like him - well assuming he finally grows up before his football career finds him in another city.

Keep it coming Bradshaw. :thumbsup:

boo hoo so ben didnt wear a helmet when he rode his motorcycle.. big deal.

BIGWILL90
04-15-2010, 03:49 PM
Im sure Neil O'donnell is supporting Ben through all this. :chuckle:

PalmerSteel
04-15-2010, 03:58 PM
i wish ben would listen to terry and take it to heart. if not, i say they fight, in the octagon. i would love to see old man terry give ben an ass kicking right about now.