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clevestinks
03-29-2005, 02:12 PM
In 1982 for the Steelers 50th season, the Pittsburgh Post gazette announced the all-time Steelers team. Who would you change now? 75th season will be here in a few years, so we`ll get a jump on the Post.

1982. QB - Terry Bradshaw 70-81
RB - Franco Harris 72-81 no changes yet
RB - Rocky Bleier 70-80 Bettis here
WR - Lynn Swann 74-81
WR - John Stalworth 74-81 does Ward fit in anywhere?
TE - Elbie Nickel 47-57 I`ll take thier word for it.
OT - Jon Kolb 69-81 Kolb stays
OT - Larry Brown 71-81 should have been at least on the HOF ballot
G - Sam Davis 67-79
G - Gerry Mullins 71-79 Faneca anywhere ??
C - Mike Webster 74-81 R.I.P. Dawson was also an animal But Webster


P - Pat Brady 52-54 only three season
PK - Roy Gerela 71-78 Gerelas Gorillas are here for the show

LB - Jack Lambert 74-81 Lamberts Lunatics will always be on the list
LB - Jack Ham 71-81
LB - Andy Russell 66-76 this is the toughest category, Lylodd ??
DT - Mean Joe Greene 69-81 written in stone
DT - Ernie Stauntner 50-63
DE - L.C. Greenwood 69-81
DE - Dwight White 71-80
CB - Jack Butler 51-59 I`m sure he was great, BUT, Woodson??
CB - Mel Blount 70-81 another HOF
S - Donnie Shell 74-81
S - Mike Wagner 71-80 maybe Carnell

Its tough, let everyone know what you think. Its easy to see why we didn`t win another ring after the 81 season, everyone was gone.

BlitzburghRockCity
03-29-2005, 03:50 PM
You definately gotta consider Bettis, Ward, and Faneca for those honors!!

HinesWard4Life8682
03-29-2005, 07:21 PM
yeah i say bettis in their for sure, ward will replace lynn swann i think and alan faneca deserves to be there as well. Rod woodson too

Steelersfan
03-29-2005, 11:14 PM
I think Lake and Woodson have to be there. Looking at the LB position is tough. We've had some great ones. Lloyd has to be considered and so does Kevin Green. Give Troy a few more years and we'll have another safety to talk about. What do you think about Lipps at WR? He put up some good numbers on some bad teams. Would have liked to seen him on a good team. I think the toughest for me to decide is between Dawson and Webster. They were both great players and played for long periods of time.

clevestinks
03-30-2005, 04:56 AM
I don`t think Kevin Greene played in the Burgh long enough.

Loius Lipps just didn`t have a great team around him, no qb.

ironcitychef
03-30-2005, 09:48 PM
QB- Terry Bradshaw, 1 qb = 4 rings
RB- Franco Harris
RB- Jerome Bettis, sorry Rocky but I think even you would give him a spot
WR- Lynn Swann
WR- John Stallworth, Hines needs more stats or rings(name hines best big stage game?)
TE- Elbie Nickel [notes for younger guys - put up 2211 yards from 52-54]
OT- John Kolb
OT- Larry Brown - both too solid to replace
OG- Sam Davis
OG- Alan Fanaca, will pass Mullins in years played I think, giving us 2 great running guards
C- Mike Webster, Dawson was great(288 and kept up with pulls and RBS, but Webster was small and smart 6'1 and 250, plus he handled line calls and helped Terry[k-a-t] call plays.

P/K - I say forget the punter and put Roy and Gary Anderson on. These are the only two kickers I can remember.

LB- Jack Lambert
LB- Jack Ham
LB- Andy Russell, Lloyd made plays with his strength, Andy never missed cause of his brain
DT- Joe Greene
DT- Ernie Stauntner, won't move since we do the 3-4 now(not enough credit given to Hampton, Steed, etc)
DE- L.C. Greenwood
DE- Dwight White
CB- Jack Butler - Woodson will be HOF, but his 10 years = 38 int w/ PIT Butler's 9 = 52(I hate this, but the list is all time Steelers)
CB- Mel Blount
S- Donnie Shell
S- Mike Wagner, I don't put Lake in cause he had 16 picks, Wagner had 36 in the same time. Imagine what it would take to double your pick total in your career. Plus he was the hardest hitting clean player then.

BlitzburghRockCity
03-30-2005, 10:12 PM
I'd agree the kevin greene didnt play in steel town long enuff to be considered for the all time team.. Im not sure I'd give it to lake, but I'd have to seriously consider it

hardwork
03-30-2005, 11:14 PM
That's a great team. The defense is frightening. I can only put one Patriot on there for sure, right now. Depending on what Brady does over the next few years, I might take him over Bradshaw. That would be two. Mike Hynes is another that I might put on that team, even though he finished as a Raider.

Oh, what Patriot is better than anything you have at that position? John Hannah, guard. Hannah and Jim Parker, Balt. Colts, are the two best guards to have stepped onto a football field.

Steelersfan
03-31-2005, 12:41 AM
Who let the Patriots fan on here! :boxing: :D

clevestinks
03-31-2005, 05:39 AM
One kicker I might take over Roy is Matt Bahr, I do believe he got a ring with us.

Brady over Bradshaw, get real, give Jersey his bong back.

BlitzburghRockCity
03-31-2005, 08:34 AM
Who let the Patriots fan on here! :boxing: :D

dont worry steelersfan.. we let him hang out on SF, just so we can beat on him when we feel the need..but he's a scrapper, give him that! :D

hardwork
03-31-2005, 09:50 AM
"Brady over Bradshaw, get real"

That's right, Brady over Bradshaw. I cut you a break, and said not yet, however, some would take him right now over Bradshaw.

I'll be honest and tell you Bradshaw is my favorite QB, but that's why I like Brady so much. He will wait and take the hit to complete the pass just like Bradshaw did. In fact there's little Bradshaw could do that Brady can't. Including winning Super Bowls. Don't BS yourself, Brady is the Patriots.

ironcitychef
03-31-2005, 10:41 AM
I always have given Brady his due, but he still only has threee rings, and doesn't call his plays. I still lean on Terry for doing it all in that day and age.

clevestinks
03-31-2005, 11:56 AM
Brady could never throw a ball 70 yards, flat foot. Bradshaw had a much stronger arm. High All-American Javelin thrower, national record setter. Record might still stand today?? Even though some states have banned it.

hardwork
03-31-2005, 03:49 PM
Brady has a stronger arm then you might think, but not as strong as Bradshaws. I'll give you that. Bradshaw could throw some deep ropes that I don't think I've seen anybody else throw as well. And I'll give you that Brady needs another ring to be fairly compared to Bradshaw.

clevestinks
03-31-2005, 07:46 PM
There is no arguing that Brady is a winner, and a leader.And I don`t doubt him having a strong arm, just not as strong as Bradshaw. Half the battle of winning is having your players behind you and believing in you. Bradshaw had it, Brady has it. Ben started without it, and by the end of the year all his teammates were behind him. The worst thing for Ben is, if he were to win three superbowls like Brady has already won. He will still only be known as the second best qb in Steelers history, Its a good problem to have.

BlitzburghRockCity
03-31-2005, 10:01 PM
no matter what Bradshaw is king of the QB's in Pittsburgh.. every QB to ever play since him, will always be compared, and never live up to his standards..yes its a good problem to have, so ok Ben, lets get it going!!

Brady is a winner, he's not the best QB in the league, he doesnt call his own plays, but when the game is on the line and u gotta have the first down to keep a drive a live, there arent many in the league that I'd call upon besides brady. He's not flashy, he's just a winner, period. so i'll give him that.