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Atlanta Dan
02-06-2006, 06:36 PM
Anyone else catch this statement from Holmgren that I just saw on ESPN News, apparently at a welcome back rally in Seattle today, which I am paraphrasing?

I knew it was going to be tough going against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I didn't know we were going against the guys in the striped shirts as well.

Seeing as Holmgren is not a player, my guess is he will be hearing from the league office.

I always thought Holmgren was a class act - not anymore.

rowedf
02-06-2006, 06:39 PM
I kinda thought the same of Holmgren, until today, reading on a Hawks board that he is a prick, always acting like spoiled rotten brat when things don't go his way. That coming from Hawks fans kinda shocked me.

PisnNapalm
02-06-2006, 06:40 PM
He really said that? whoa...

The refs calls were questionable, not the glaring crap we endured in the Colts game.

Justin Otstott
02-06-2006, 06:41 PM
wow another cry baby omg why don't these people get over it my God! The guy wouldnt even shake Bill's hand after the game what a *******!! Thats why Bill looked mad like he did after the game at 1 point

LambertIsGod58
02-06-2006, 06:43 PM
I didn't see any outrageous calls.....The Roethlisberger TD was called a TD on the field. Not enough to overturn. The PI on Jackson was PI, as minute a push as it was. The block that Hasselbeck laid out after his INT may have not been seen perfectly, but that's part of the game. Quit bitchin' Chickenhawk fans.....the fact is YOU DIDN'T EXECUTE!!!!YOUR COACH FAILED YOU AS WELL.

Kaish15
02-06-2006, 06:43 PM
I've never been thrilled with Holmgren. He was nice to me when I met him, but I was a little kid than. He's complaining about the touchdown and really needs to get over it.

Prosdo
02-06-2006, 06:44 PM
I always had a lot of respect for Holmgren. I don't maybe he was saying something he thought the fans would react to but either way. You are the leader of that team. You need to lead by example and not do things like that. In the end it makes you look bad and like a sore loser.

Koopa
02-06-2006, 06:46 PM
i've never liked him so this just makes me not like him even more, what a bitch he is, kinda like most the seahawk fans

SteelerDan43
02-06-2006, 06:47 PM
Anyone else think he looks just like a Walrus?!?

ngreene15
02-06-2006, 06:51 PM
I've been noticing A LOT of Seahawks fans/Media people aruging the PI call on dJackson.... I don't see how you can't call that a push off, he clearly pushed Chris Hope, if watch Hope, he actually got moved backwards because of the shove. Holmgren should be giving his reciver an earful because he could have caught that ball without touching Hope, but in the end, he did push off Hope and Hawks fans should just deal with it instead of finding excuses.

OX1947
02-06-2006, 06:51 PM
I always thought he was a prick, and thats fine, he's a prick, some people are like that. But leaving Cowher high and dry afterwards was classless and pathetic. He should be ashamed of himself. If he wants to complain and bitch about the officating, thats fine, but not shaking a guys hand who was waiting for him in the middle of the field for like 10 min was just unprofessional.

Milkman
02-06-2006, 06:52 PM
Sour grapes it is...

LambertIsGod58
02-06-2006, 06:56 PM
Mike Holmgren is nothing more than " a pear shaped loser". He only won his SB in Green Bay because he had Brett Favre.

Large_Ant
02-06-2006, 07:12 PM
He really said that? whoa...

The refs calls were questionable, not the glaring crap we endured in the Colts game.

:sofunny:

That is hilarious. The rest of the nation says it was the biggest rip off in the history of football but it's sunny in Steeler land!! Nah, nothing glaring..

:dang:

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=2011

Win by any means necessary. Anybody who thinks you guys got the game handed to you must just be a poor sport. Good stuff!! :bouncy:

OX1947
02-06-2006, 07:13 PM
Mike Holmgren is nothing more than " a pear shaped loser". He only won his SB in Green Bay because he had Brett Favre.

Actually, he won that Super Bowl because of crappy Special Teams on New Englands part. Desmond Howard won him that Super Bowl. He was getting outcoached by Parcells the entire game until the 2 returns that really killed the Pats momenteum. Had howard not been a factor, Pats would have won that game....But, luck sometimes is whats needed, he was lucky then, we were lucky now and nothing can change it.

RoethlisBURGHer
02-06-2006, 07:17 PM
HE CAN GO **** A DUCK WHILE DRINKING HIS CAFE LATTE!

Atlanta Dan
02-06-2006, 07:24 PM
:sofunny:

That is hilarious. The rest of the nation says it was the biggest rip off in the history of football but it's sunny in Steeler land!! Nah, nothing glaring..

:dang:

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=2011

Win by any means necessary. Anybody who thinks you guys got the game handed to you must just be a poor sport. Good stuff!! :bouncy:

Losers gripe, winners say shut up and deal. Seahawks had their chances and blew it.

Better luck next year. Could it be the Seahawks and their fans are so upset because they know it was a down year in the NFC and the chances of getting back to the SB anytime soon are about as likely as Paul Allen filing for bankruptcy?

SteelersNation7
02-06-2006, 07:30 PM
First off on the pass interference call, we all know that if our Db's would have made that touch they would be flaged...why isnt it that the Wideouts are an exception to that rule? Their not. That was interference.
On the holding penalty, looked like he was grabing to me.
As for the Ben TD that could have been called either way BUT the review has to be conclusive, and that my friends is in the rule books.
Seattle lost because they didnt make the plays needed.PERIOD.

Sharkissle29
02-06-2006, 07:39 PM
holmgren is a whiney b*tch. he always complains

Large_Ant
02-06-2006, 07:39 PM
Losers gripe, winners say shut up and deal. Seahawks had their chances and blew it.

Better luck next year. Could it be the Seahawks and their fans are so upset because they know it was a down year in the NFC and the chances of getting back to the SB anytime soon are about as likely as Paul Allen filing for bankruptcy?
I guess the entire nation is "griping" because there is a thread on every board in America (take a look around, you'll see what I mean) talking about how you guys didn't look like any kind of champs.

Doesn't matter how little dignity you get the win with, just that you get it. Sincerest congrats!! :sofunny:

LambertIsGod58
02-06-2006, 07:44 PM
I guess the entire nation is "griping" because there is a thread on every board in America (take a look around, you'll see what I mean) talking about how you guys didn't look like any kind of champs.

Doesn't matter how little dignity you get the win with, just that you get it. Sincerest congrats!! :sofunny:


The only thing that matters is the final score....The great teams are those who find a way to win when they aren't playing great.

bmovierat
02-06-2006, 07:49 PM
Championship caliber teams learn to overcome questionable calls and win. Seattle was unable to do that. Championship caliber teams find a way to win when they are not playing their best game. The Steelers did that Sunday.

Steelers have won pretty, and they won ugly in these playoffs. I'll take it either way.

Atlanta Dan
02-06-2006, 07:50 PM
I guess the entire nation is "griping" because there is a thread on every board in America (take a look around, you'll see what I mean) talking about how you guys didn't look like any kind of champs.

Doesn't matter how little dignity you get the win with, just that you get it. Sincerest congrats!! :sofunny:

The "entire nation" is not just latte sipping losers from the dreary Northwest.

Assuming you watch ESPN, check out Jim Rome's take on ESPN News on how the Seahawks cannot blame the loss on the refs but on the failure of the Seahawks to play well.

Or, check out Pete Prisco's real time blog on CBS Sportsline (the link is below) on the calls - here are some excerpts:

Updated: Feb/05/2006 07:01 PM
'Hawks strike first but lose TD
Seattle appeared to score the game's first touchdown when Matt Hasselbeck hit Darrell Jackson in the end zone.

But Jackson, who is having a huge day, was called for pushing off Steelers safety Chris Hope.

It was the right call.

Updated: Feb/05/2006 07:47 PM
Luck starting to turn for Pittsburgh
Sometimes, it's better to be lucky than good.

The Steelers' first scoring drive came courtesy of two pretty lucky plays.

The first play came on third-and-6 from the Pittsburgh 45 when Ben Roethlsiberger was flushed out of the pocket and shoveled a pass forward to Hines Ward for 12 yards and a first down.

The next play came on third-and-28 from the Seattle 40. Flushed out of the pocket, Roethlisberger appeared set to cross the line to try and pick up some yards for a possible first down. He instead stopped, threw across his body to the other side of the field. It appeared Seahawks safety Michael Boulware would intercept the pass but it was caught by Hines Ward for a 37-yard gain to the Seattle 3.

Two plays later, Roethlsiberger ran it in -- just barely -- for a 7-3 Steelers lead. The scoring play was reviewed, but it was rightfully upheld.

http://www.sportsline.com/columns/weblogs/entry/9201354

Large Ant - I know you are upset (ask any Steelers fan what they thought of Neil O'Donnell after the Cowboys loss in SB XXX). But blaming it on a refs conspiracy (the same refs who wanted Indy to win 3 weeks ago?) is a great way to escape dealing with the reality of a devastating loss.

Portland Hawk Fan
02-06-2006, 08:08 PM
Anyone else catch this statement from Holmgren that I just saw on ESPN News, apparently at a welcome back rally in Seattle today, which I am paraphrasing?

I knew it was going to be tough going against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I didn't know we were going against the guys in the striped shirts as well.

Seeing as Holmgren is not a player, my guess is he will be hearing from the league office.

I always thought Holmgren was a class act - not anymore.

You guys got screwed out of one little interception and made a federal case out of it- accusing the NFL of cheating.

Now you pull the sour grapes card after we got screwed out of 21 points?!

Your team is soft- the world knows Seattle won that game.

Stealers*

LambertIsGod58
02-06-2006, 08:16 PM
You guys got screwed out of one little interception and made a federal case out of it- accusing the NFL of cheating.

Now you pull the sour grapes card after we got screwed out of 21 points?!

Your team is soft- the world knows Seattle won that game.

Stealers*


Yeah, the world knows that Seattle won that game....:dang: I bet you make excuses everytime in your life that you don't execute. Just like the Chickenhawks. It's easier to blame someone or something else other than looking at yourself. If your team was so great, they would have overcome all obstacles. Fact is, your team are Pretenders!!! Plain and simple. Alexander was not factor nor was Hasselbeck. And I thought we'd be lucky to put up TWO Toucdowns? With only scoring 10 points, I guess it was Seattle that would have been luck to score TWO. Doesn't matter anyway BITCH!!! Keep cryin and hold on to this since it's all you have in your pathetic life!!!!

WWIIOwheelz
02-06-2006, 08:16 PM
That idiot chose not to shake the hand of the longest-tenured coach in the NFL following his richly-deserved first Superbowl win. Cowher had given nothing but props to the Seattle organization for the weeks leading up to the big game. Holmgren doing that was classless, inappropriate, and just plain wrong.

I'll never forget it, either.

Atlanta Dan
02-06-2006, 08:17 PM
You guys got screwed out of one little interception and made a federal case out of it- accusing the NFL of cheating.

Now you pull the sour grapes card after we got screwed out of 21 points?!

Your team is soft- the world knows Seattle won that game.

Stealers*

Steelers overcame the calls in the Indy game - your team failed to do so.

Please let me know when Seattle is holding its victory parade or ring presentation ceremony since "the world" knows Seattle won that game - maybe I can tape the ceremonies.

You can order a Terrible Towel to dry your tears.

Stillers#1
02-06-2006, 08:21 PM
You guys got screwed out of one little interception and made a federal case out of it- accusing the NFL of cheating.

Now you pull the sour grapes card after we got screwed out of 21 points?!

Your team is soft- the world knows Seattle won that game.

Stealers*

Well maybe Paul Allen can get some "real" Super Bowl rings made for his team, since they really won that game. This isn't golf. the team with the most point wins.
Bad ref-ing happens, obviously, there were calls that were missed on our part too (block in the back?). It would not have changed the outcome of the game. Get over it. I mean at least you have a classy guy as a coach. Oh wait my bad....he is an *******.

Stlrs4Life
02-06-2006, 08:30 PM
Oh here we go again, didn't you read the above threads? A few calls here, and tthere. On the OPI call, if he doesn't want to get called, then don't touch the defender. He had no need to. Bens TD was a TD, it did break the plane of the Goal Line. Hasselbecks penalty. Live with it, we had the same call versus the Indy game in lour loss. And not to mention all the holding calls that were not called against the Seahawks, Haggens was bieng held the entire game, also Aaron Smith. Because the OL of the Seahawks could not handle the rush. Not to mention all of the dropped passes by your boy Stevens, and all the over throws by Hasselhoff. And piss poor clock management by Holmgren before halftime. When the Seahawks didn't get nop points from that drive, I knew we were going to win this game.

shevdog
02-06-2006, 08:31 PM
If I was in Holmgren's shoes, I'd probably saw the same thing. He could have said worse. I'm sure if the situtation was flipped, we'd be crying foul, as we have (for very valid reasons) as playoffs long.

Yet... I'd expect more from Holmgren. At least he gave his props to the Steelers, after getting the toughest loss in sports. Holmgren, you have won with the legendary Green Bay, so no pity from me.

Portland Hawk Fan
02-06-2006, 08:36 PM
Steelers overcame the calls in the Indy game - your team failed to do so.

Please let me know when Seattle is holding its victory parade or ring presentation ceremony since "the world" knows Seattle won that game - maybe I can tape the ceremonies.

You can order a Terrible Towel to dry your tears.

ONE call on an interception- and I admit it was HUGE and I was OUTRAGED.

Now, where's your similar outrage over FIVE huge calls that went against Seattle?!

Hsselbeck personal foul for trying to tackle a player?!?!?!?! Two phantom calls that would have resulted in TDs?!?!?!?!?! BS calls on Special Teams returns?!?!

This was NOTHING like the ONE CALL you folks had to wrongly endure in Indi. And the WORST that resulted in was them to have a SHOT at OT. We were f-ed the ENTIRE FINBG GAME!!!

WTF?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?

I don't care- the world knows the Stealers* are a sham- even girls watching the Super Bowl know the Seahawks kicked you punks all over the field.

Admit we're the better, more physical team and I'll stop.

Steve_Courson's_Liver
02-06-2006, 08:38 PM
A good coach prepares his team for the worst and moves on... You never see Cowher bitching about the calls after the fact. Even in the Indy game, Cowher kept the team composed and ready. What is done is done. You must, as a coach, set the tone for your team. Holmgrem proved he is a subpar coach... and his team reflected it.:dang:

LambertIsGod58
02-06-2006, 08:38 PM
ONE call on an interception- and I admit it was HUGE and I was OUTRAGED.

Now, where's your similar outrage over FIVE huge calls that went against Seattle?!

Hsselbeck personal foul for trying to tackle a player?!?!?!?! Two phantom calls that would have resulted in TDs?!?!?!?!?! BS calls on Special Teams returns?!?!

This was NOTHING like the ONE CALL you folks had to wrongly endure in Indi. And the WORST that resulted in was them to have a SHOT at OT. We were f-ed the ENTIRE FINBG GAME!!!

WTF?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?

I don't care- the world knows the Stealers* are a sham- even girls watching the Super Bowl know the Seahawks kicked you punks all over the field.

Admit we're the better, more physical team and I'll stop.


The only way I could see Seattle being more physical is in a pack of Boyscouts......

Cebby
02-06-2006, 08:40 PM
...the world knows Seattle won that game.

Guess what, the record books will show a Steelers win. As time goes on, do you think anyone will give a shit about the loser's sour grapes? No.

BlitzburghRockCity
02-06-2006, 08:43 PM
Hey Holmgren.. Guess what..

YOU LOST THE SUPER BOWL !! DEAL WITH IT !!!!

BB2W
02-06-2006, 08:44 PM
the world knows Seattle won that game.
The whole world knows the score was Steelers 21 Seattle 10... don't they???

3 to be 4
02-06-2006, 08:46 PM
Holmgren is an overated coach. Remember his brilliant move against Denver in the SB to let the Packers score the go ahead TD? The most blantant controversy that the media decided wasnt a controversy in the history of modern sports.
He sounded like an ass today. the Refs didnt beat the Seahawks. (Besides the Steelers) the Seahawks beat themselves over and over again. He should blame himself for allowing his own team to screw up the whole day.

BenPFJ1958
02-06-2006, 08:46 PM
Everyone complains about the refs (even Cowher) but I remember that after we lost that playoff game to the Titans a couple of years ago (the roughing the kicker call) Cowher did shake Jeff Fisher's hand - and we all know how Bill feels about him !

Atlanta Dan
02-06-2006, 08:49 PM
ONE call on an interception- and I admit it was HUGE and I was OUTRAGED.

Now, where's your similar outrage over FIVE huge calls that went against Seattle?!

Hsselbeck personal foul for trying to tackle a player?!?!?!?! Two phantom calls that would have resulted in TDs?!?!?!?!?! BS calls on Special Teams returns?!?!

This was NOTHING like the ONE CALL you folks had to wrongly endure in Indi. And the WORST that resulted in was them to have a SHOT at OT. We were f-ed the ENTIRE FINBG GAME!!!

WTF?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?

I don't care- the world knows the Stealers* are a sham- even girls watching the Super Bowl know the Seahawks kicked you punks all over the field.

Admit we're the better, more physical team and I'll stop.

Leaving aside the fact that the Troy interception WOULD HAVE ENDED THE GAME I guess you have forgotten the non-pass intreference call on Randle-El when the Steelers were up 14-0 in the second Q of the Colts game. Of course, the AFC divisional playoffs were not on the Lifetime Channel and you missed that game.

Bottom line is that champs overcome setbacks - Seahawks are not champs! :)

Steve_Courson's_Liver
02-06-2006, 08:51 PM
ONE call on an interception- and I admit it was HUGE and I was OUTRAGED.

Now, where's your similar outrage over FIVE huge calls that went against Seattle?!

Hsselbeck personal foul for trying to tackle a player?!?!?!?! Two phantom calls that would have resulted in TDs?!?!?!?!?! BS calls on Special Teams returns?!?!

This was NOTHING like the ONE CALL you folks had to wrongly endure in Indi. And the WORST that resulted in was them to have a SHOT at OT. We were f-ed the ENTIRE FINBG GAME!!!

WTF?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?

I don't care- the world knows the Stealers* are a sham- even girls watching the Super Bowl know the Seahawks kicked you punks all over the field.

Admit we're the better, more physical team and I'll stop.

5 calls? are you insane? The Pushing off was it... and The hasslebeck chop bloc was BS, but I saw that called earlier this year on Faneca.

Also, your defense is soft... I saw a lot of pancakes on that field. If ben played even a b- game it would have been 42-13... refs or not. If the steeler D was so soft... why was hasslecrack sacked 3-4 times? Why was Jeremy Steven being used as a human pinata?

Stop smoking seahawk pole and realize you guys will be lucky to win 9 games next year.

hawks>*
02-06-2006, 09:16 PM
come on guys, cut him some slack here.
he is only saying what every player on his team, and every seahawk fan wants, oh which by the way is something about 85% of the media has already said.
I haven't heard a single player mention the refs and I don't think you will. Mike is taking the lead and will take the brunt of what may come from the nfl, media, and fans just like a head coach should. cry baby ***** to you, stand up guy supporting his team to me.

with that said, congrats on the win. see ya next year (or maybe here and there) if our paths cross again.

edit: guess you cant say that other word for kitty cat around here

BlitzburghRockCity
02-06-2006, 09:26 PM
Hawks..

nobody is saying you guys shouldnt be upset and pissed off. You lost the SB so that enough right there is worthy of irritation.. but all we're wanting is for everyone to stop complaining and trying to steal our glory.

:cool:

I.C. Lights
02-06-2006, 09:30 PM
If Holmgren did say that, then he'll have to deal with embarrassment that ensues when the accuracy of the PI call and Ben's TD are confirmed by the league. It's unbecoming for a head coach to criticize the refs, especially when the accusations are weak. On the other hand, this is a very emotional time and I'm not gonna fault him for being upset. I still think he is a class act, along with the rest of the hawks organization.

MagicHawk
02-06-2006, 09:42 PM
Hawks..

nobody is saying you guys shouldnt be upset and pissed off. You lost the SB so that enough right there is worthy of irritation.. but all we're wanting is for everyone to stop complaining and trying to steal our glory.

:cool:
The fact is though it isn't us just us because if it was the deal it could be passed off as sour grapes but this is nationwide and getting worse. If I were you I would not only be upset about this but worried for the sport as a whole. Too many have rightly pointed out that the officials altered this game to a level that more than a small majority that had no stake in, questioning the intregrity of the league.

Irregardless of this though not the referees, yellow towels, the "homefield" advantage made us lose we did that ourselves.

CASTEEL
02-06-2006, 11:49 PM
The fact is though it isn't us just us because if it was the deal it could be passed off as sour grapes but this is nationwide and getting worse. If I were you I would not only be upset about this but worried for the sport as a whole. Too many have rightly pointed out that the officials altered this game to a level that more than a small majority that had no stake in, questioning the intregrity of the league.

Irregardless of this though not the referees, yellow towels, the "homefield" advantage made us lose we did that ourselves.

This is Nation Wide??? Are you getting that from ESPN, because if so, check your source!
They are rapidly becoming the Howard Stern of the sports world, and while I have nothing against Howard.......he is a complete ass on the air for a reason!

I can understand being upset because of a loss...but come on....bying into all this conspriacy theory shock journalism (Skip Clueless) crap is getting old.

I have always liked Seattle, being from the west coast as I am, but if this crap keeps up I will lose all respect for the organization and it's fans.....

ONE FOR THE THUMB.......DONE!!!

MagicHawk
02-06-2006, 11:53 PM
This is Nation Wide??? Are you getting that from ESPN, because if so, check your source!
They are rapidly becoming the Howard Stern of the sports world, and while I have nothing against Howard.......he is a complete ass on the air for a reason!

I can understand being upset because of a loss...but come on....bying into all this conspriacy theory shock journalism (Skip Clueless) crap is getting old.

I have always liked Seattle, being from the west coast as I am, but if this crap keeps up I will lose all respect for the organization and it's fans.....

ONE FOR THE THUMB.......DONE!!!Every site I have went to, no joke, I am worried because a majority are pissed at a level I never have seen. This still doesn't change the fact that you guys won fair and square and I am worried about what this could mean. I hope it dies down even though I believe officiating needs to be changed.

83-Steelers-43
02-06-2006, 11:54 PM
Somebody throw a hoagie, a bucket of KFC, ribs, chicken and ice cream at Fat man. That will make him happy and keep him quiet.

augustashark
02-07-2006, 12:02 AM
You guys got screwed out of one little interception and made a federal case out of it- accusing the NFL of cheating.

Now you pull the sour grapes card after we got screwed out of 21 points?!

Your team is soft- the world knows Seattle won that game.

Stealers*


Hey portland, maybe your neg 47 rep should tell you something.....STOP F**KING POSTING!

To the point, your coach is a sore loser plain and simple.

Hell he looks like he swallowed a jelly bean whole!!

Sharkissle29
02-07-2006, 12:02 AM
when will the NFL come out with their "we were right" statement to shut these guys up? ill give u one call, and one call only. The hasselback personal foul. didnt really affect the game much so stop b(tching already

MagicHawk
02-07-2006, 12:09 AM
Hey portland, maybe your neg 47 rep should tell you something.....STOP F**KING POSTING!

To the point, your coach is a sore loser plain and simple.

Hell he looks like he swallowed a jelly bean whole!!
I am sorry to step in but our coach is not a poor sport, what he said today at our rally was to make us happy and to save our players fines. He was upset that he was unable to shake Cowher's hand because of security. But in real life both men are friends so this will be handled between the two.

As for Portland Hawk I can't defend him or anybody with no class expect to say I apologize that not all our nation can man up and take it.

83-Steelers-43
02-07-2006, 12:26 AM
Holmgren and Lewis would make a cute couple.

CASTEEL
02-07-2006, 12:34 AM
Every site I have went to, no joke, I am worried because a majority are pissed at a level I never have seen. This still doesn't change the fact that you guys won fair and square and I am worried about what this could mean. I hope it dies down even though I believe officiating needs to be changed.

In the end I don't think it will mean a thing. There is alot of emotion flying around and it is still only one day after the game. I think this will die down in a week or two.

I too agree that the officiating needs to be changed....how could anyone not. :grin:

That being said, I still don't think that the game was officiated poorly except for the call on Hassleback (which was actually a penatly that was called on the Steelers against Indi the first time we played 'em) which may have been a bad call......other than that......what was so bad???

I keep hearing that the officals shouldn't change the outcome of the game with their calls......WEll, WTF are they suppose to do with PI call in the endzone, give 'em the touchdown and assess the penatly on the kickoff???

The touchdown by Ben was a touchdown. PERIOD.

The holding call was a HOLD... look at it......the Seahawk player (sorry can't recall his name) totally changed the direction of the defender by grabbing his right shoulder and PULLING him around........ how can anyone not see that???

I thank you for agreeing that the Steelers won that game fair and square....now just look at the officiating of that game and really ask yourself where it was bad??? Seriously watch that game again, knowing the outcome, letting your emotions not play a hand, and see where all of the bad calls were. There will be only one (:grin: sounds like a line from a bad action flick).......

The worst thing about that game was the play of the Steelers in the first half...and the play of the Seahawks in the second half!

ONE FOR THE THUMB.....DONE!!!

bozz723
02-07-2006, 12:47 AM
I WATCHED THE GAME AGAIN TODAY, AND HOLMGREN DIDNT MEET WITH COWHER IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD AFTER THE GAME.

Cowher was so pissed his jaw was jutting out and all I heard was "wheres Mike ?" and other officlas saying "Wheres Holmgren?"

If you have the game recorded watch the end and see what I saw.


What a classless loser, that is all there is to be said.

Kaish15
02-07-2006, 01:12 AM
I see it this way,

Holmgren had to address the Seahawk fans and what is easier to say? "I'm sorry we didn't play our best game and let you, the fans down" OR "Well fans, it's the refs fault we lost." He looks good in the eyes of Hawk fans and that's all that matters right?

And if he really did not met with Cowher after the game that is a new sign of poor sportsmanship. Did he met with any Steelers?

GX624
02-07-2006, 02:32 AM
Holmgren has made it a habit of blaming the officials and eluding to conspiracy and "phantom" calls.

Here's an article from the Seattle Post from LAST YEAR!
"Seahawks incur wrath of the zebras" -- 1/9/2005

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/football/207160_hside09.html

"...regularly hurt at inopportune moments..."

"...and big penalties in a game of this magnitude, that is a little unusual for us," head coach Mike Holmgren said. "That usually doesn't happen. Not only were there penalties, but also when the penalties came."

Sound familiar? :rolleyes:

Come on, Coach! How about just this once you own up?

BritishSteel
02-07-2006, 02:35 AM
ONE call on an interception- and I admit it was HUGE and I was OUTRAGED.

Now, where's your similar outrage over FIVE huge calls that went against Seattle?!

Hsselbeck personal foul for trying to tackle a player?!?!?!?! Two phantom calls that would have resulted in TDs?!?!?!?!?! BS calls on Special Teams returns?!?!

This was NOTHING like the ONE CALL you folks had to wrongly endure in Indi. And the WORST that resulted in was them to have a SHOT at OT. We were f-ed the ENTIRE FINBG GAME!!!

WTF?!?!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?

I don't care- the world knows the Stealers* are a sham- even girls watching the Super Bowl know the Seahawks kicked you punks all over the field.

Admit we're the better, more physical team and I'll stop.

Yeah, it was the officials who screwed up the last two minutes of the first half. I've seen better time management from a high school football team. It was the officials fault that Stevens didn't know the out-of-bounds rule on the last Seahawks drive of the game. It was the officials that threw the interception to Ike Taylor, the Officials that sacked Hasselbeck through 'the best offisive line in the NFL' three times, the officials that made Stevens play like his hands were putty and the officials that put the hole you could drive a 16-wheeler through your defensive line for the Parker TD, the Officials that sent your secondary to the wrong side of the field for the Randle El/Hines Ward touchdown, the officials that ensured your choker kicker sent the ball wide of the posts twice.

If it helps you cope with the big bad world of the NFL, you blame it on the officials.

ZornToLargent
02-07-2006, 03:11 AM
Anyone else catch this statement from Holmgren that I just saw on ESPN News, apparently at a welcome back rally in Seattle today, which I am paraphrasing?

I knew it was going to be tough going against the Pittsburgh Steelers. I didn't know we were going against the guys in the striped shirts as well.

Seeing as Holmgren is not a player, my guess is he will be hearing from the league office.

I always thought Holmgren was a class act - not anymore.
I think what Holmgren said had just as much "class" as what the Steelers players said after the Colts game. The facts are, the refs in the NFL are the classless ones here having part-timers referee the NFL. Everyone, throughout the regular season year and the playoffs/Super Bowl, were justified in criticizing the so-called "officials" of the games.

Mamaduck43
02-07-2006, 04:36 AM
I agree with the Seattle fans that the officiating helped the Steelers win - - - think about it..... Holmgrem was so preoccupied with harping on the Ben touchdown that he totally messed up his time management.... We were sitting here watching and thinking, "What the h*ll is he doing???" I have never seen such an amateurish job of coaching in my life..... If he had been concentrating on his job as coach, the game might have gone differently....

Yes, there were a couple of calls that went against Seattle - - there were many other calls that could have been made for or against both teams..... But, you gotta live with and deal with the reality of what is happening on the field.... If you cannot keep your team focused on the end result, you end up losing the game.....

And all the talk about the Indy game - - the interception call was only one of many - - the biggest of which was the infamous 'do over' when 4 or 5 Colts ran across the line of scrimmage as a result of what was probably a Fanaca 'flinch', but since the zebras didn't see the flinch, they called nothing and negated any infraction at all - - - - hey, half their team had crossed the line..... Something is wrong here..... The Cowher jaw may have jutted out a bit more as a result of those calls, but he didn't bellyache about them.... He just kept the team focusing on the game.......

Holmgrem deserves alot of the blame for the loss..... He had the game handed to him on a platter several times, but he was too dang busy grumbling, he missed his chance...... And our wonderful blue collar team from the wonderful blue collar city went home with the rings.......

What really makes me mad is that all of the crap that has been going on. Every talking head that just likes to hear his own voice is running at the mouth with drivel, and every idiot who watches one or two games a year, believes everything that those Steelers haters spouts off about.......

I was involved in coaching competitive swimming for over 30 years..... It is a humbling experience to go up to the opposing coach at the end of a meet to offer congratulations.... Win or lose, it is something that must be done and must be done graciously..... If Holmgrens snub is any indication of his level of sportsmanship, it is no wonder that his fans have not learned how to act.... His players (most of them) are a class act, but I have lost respect for him..... He is classless..... He messed up, and has to point fingers at anyone but himself..... I hope he can sleep without a constant rerun of how he screwed up running through his mind....

Congratulations to the Steelers, the coaches, the Front office and to our fans.... It was beautiful to see the sea of Black and Gold at Ford Field..... Fantastic!!!!

Atlanta Dan
02-07-2006, 07:18 AM
I think what Holmgren said had just as much "class" as what the Steelers players said after the Colts game. The facts are, the refs in the NFL are the classless ones here having part-timers referee the NFL. Everyone, throughout the regular season year and the playoffs/Super Bowl, were justified in criticizing the so-called "officials" of the games.

Holmgren is not a player, he is the head coach.

If you check the quotes after the Colts game, you will note that Cowher specifically stated he was not going to dump on the refs.

thumb 2 come
02-07-2006, 07:21 AM
I think what Holmgren said had just as much "class" as what the Steelers players said after the Colts game. The facts are, the refs in the NFL are the classless ones here having part-timers referee the NFL. Everyone, throughout the regular season year and the playoffs/Super Bowl, were justified in criticizing the so-called "officials" of the games.

Huge difference from a player spouting off to a head coach doing it.
If you look Cowher after the Indy game actually praised the refs a little and said he was glad he didn't have to do their job.

steveironcity
02-07-2006, 08:19 AM
Holmgren looks like Wilfred Brimley

Avoid Lloyd
02-07-2006, 08:27 AM
I'm just glad Holmgren isn't affiliated with the Steelers.

I want nothing to do with a coach who would act the way he has.