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Chidi29
04-21-2010, 09:08 PM
Last second but better late than never. The first thing you should look at when you evaluate my picks are the players that were on the board when I made my picks for the Steelers. That can be found in my entire seven round mock here

http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=fanboard&id=ffl&tid=6751188&lid=47

My picks are as follows.

1. Terrence Cody/NT Alabama
Yes, from a pure projection standpoint, this is a bit of a reach. But his drop in value seems a little unfair now. He was a mid-first rounder before the Senior Bowl. It was only when he showed up there at 370 did concern brew and his stock started to drop. While this is a legitimate concern, he was down to 354 at the Combine and 346 and Alabama's Pro Day. He came into Alabama at over 400 pounds and managed to drop the weight. There really haven't been many big weight issues with the kid. Sure, he's big, but give him a personal trainer, a dietitian, whoever, and you can control his weight and also improve his stamina. It's extremely rare that a guy like Cody comes along and I can't pass up the chance of getting him. It is also possible, and even a better idea, to try and trade down to around 20-25 (But before the Jets and the Chargers, just in case) and take him then.

***Side note*** I would like us to trade back to around 24-25 (Maybe if Dez Bryant falls or if Earl Thomas were to slip? If a team wants to try to get Pouncey or some OT that dropped?) to get Cody. I don't however have a trade based off of that since I didn't do trades in my full mock.

2. Brandon LaFell/WR LSU
As I stated, he is a good route runner with a lot of experience. From what I saw, he also seems like a down-to-earth guy and also a very willing run blocker. I'm not really big on Randle El, he certainly won't be the same guy he was in 2005, and Sweed's concerns are well documented. I do like Arnaz Battle a lot, but as a special teamer and all around good guy rather than an actual receiver. And yes, I do wonder about Ward. Two years ago, we were all talking about his health and it looked as if his knees were about ready to give out. While he had a great year last season and did take steps to keep him fresh (Limited in practice, slept in a hyperbaric chamber) those concerns from two years ago aren't going to magically go away. He's getting older, not younger. I love him to death, appreciate everything he's done for us (Aside from holding out, not cool), but we have to be realistic about him.

3. Kam Chancellor/FS Virginia Tech
I didn't get to watch a lot of guys in the secondary too closely this year. Just too tough to do. I did, however, get a good look at him a couple different occassions. He's got really good size, is a solid tackler (Very key in LeBeau's defense) and while isn't a 4.4 type guy, does show good closing speed. Ryan Clark's deal looked to be a bit frontloaded and getting extra depth at safety is pretty important.

4. Syd'Quan Thompson/CB Cal
Another guy I got to watch a little bit of. Smaller, quick type of corner, pretty common mold for our defense, who has a knack for the ball and closes quickly. I don't see the need for us taking a corner too high because in this passive, zone scheme we run with our corners, we don't need to take 4.4, press coverage, man up and shut down type of guys. Sure, they're a great luxury to have, go ahead and give Revis a Steelers jersey, no complaints from me, but we don't need to do it. Consider this. Since 1979, we've only drafted two cornerbacks in the 1st round: Rod Woodson and Chad Scott.

5. EJ Wilson/DE North Carolina

The guy has a crazy amount of starting experience, something like three solid seasons, and looks to fit in well at defensive end. As I said in the orginal write up, Kiesel, Eason, and Smith are all into their 30s. Elaborating on the Smith comment. I realize that Tomlin has said Smith's recovery has gone well so far. But I'm noy fully convinced; it could be a bit of a smokescreen to not give anything away if he isn't going as well as hoped. And even if he is, the guy has suffered a couple of big injuries. In the past three years, he's torn his triceps and his rotator cuff to his right arm. With the mileage he has and how physically demanding a five technique is, always crashing into the guards or tackles, that takes a toll on you. Look, I hope Smith gets back healthy. Like Ward, I appreciate what he's done. But also like Ward, you gotta realize when a guy is showing signs of slowing down. For whatever it's worth, we're also set to pay him $5 million in base salary.

5. Nolan Carroll/CB Maryland

This is a guy who we have shown a good amount of interest in. Don't know much about the guy, but he has good size (5'10, 200+) and good speed. He is coming off a broken leg, which is a concern, but he ran a 4.39 at his Pro Day. That is at the very least encouraging.

5. Daniel Te'O Nesham/OLB Washington

He'll attempt to convert from DE to OLB. They were highliight films so they can't be completely trusted, but he looked really good on the couple that are floating around the internet or on Washington's page. He's the all-time sack leader for the Huskies, and trying another project is less riskier in the 5th than it is in the 3rd (see Bruce Davis).

5. Roy Upchurch/RB Alabama

Another guy that might be a bit of a reach but hey, we reached on Frank Summers last year because we liked him so much. Upchurch wav overshadowed by guys like Trent Richardson and Mark Ingram, but played in a pro offense, is a good blocker, and will have a better pro career than a college one.

6. Mike McLaughlin/ILB Boston College

More linebacker depth. Sounds like a tough, hard-nosed guy who as I stated, had enough respect from his teammates to be voted captian the past two years. Hopefully he works out better than Mike Humpal.

7. Tony Moekai/TE Iowa

He sounds like a little bit of everything with some upside. Decent reciever, and a decent blocker who learned under Kirk Ferentz where a lot of in-line blocking is asked from his TEs. Like pretty much everyone else, not real big on Spaeth. Yeah, his blocking improved a little bit last year, but to me, he's nothing more than a big body that can't do much with it. Those are a dime a dozen and his limited playing time and the extra PT David Johnson got is an example of that.

I know I'm going to, and already have elsewhere, going to get killed for this but here is my explanation for why I didn't have us take a lineman.


There isn't a reason to grab a mid-round guard or center. A guy that will be on the bubble to compete for one of the backup jobs. We already have a ton of those guys. Legursky, Urbik, Essex, Foster. Adding another guy to that mix just doesn't make a lot of sense. If you can't get a top flight guy, then don't get one at all. Adding an average guy to an average group isn't going to make you any better. Besides, it'll be tough to beat out Legursky or Foster because of their versatility and you know we always keep one UDFA lineman. Legursky, Foster, and Stapleton, are all examples of that. I understand the need for an upgrade at RG or C, and if Jon Asamoah would have fell to us, I would have taken him. But he didn't and I wasn't going to reach for just an average guard.

*I would be fine if we took Pouncey at 18. He would be my second choice.

xXTheSteelKingsXx
04-21-2010, 09:17 PM
I can't see us passing on Trent Williams or Pouncey in the first for Cody.

Chidi29
04-21-2010, 09:26 PM
I can't see us passing on Trent Williams or Pouncey in the first for Cody.

Not a fan of Williams and I think we're set at tackle.

Pouncey is more debatable but Cody has the higher ceiling at a more important position. But like I said, Pouncey would be my second choice.

St33lersguy
04-21-2010, 09:29 PM
I like that mock draft. 1st draft I have seen that focuses on the DL

xXTheSteelKingsXx
04-21-2010, 09:29 PM
Not a fan of Williams and I think we're set at tackle.

Pouncey is more debatable but Cody has the higher ceiling at a more important position. But like I said, Pouncey would be my second choice.

My concern with tackle is Colon is only on a one year deal and I've never been sold on Starks as a premire tackle (well on the left side anyway).

Chidi29
04-21-2010, 09:47 PM
My concern with tackle is Colon is only on a one year deal and I've never been sold on Starks as a premire tackle (well on the left side anyway).

I think Colon will get re-signed. We've been pretty good about getting guys extension even when it seemed certain that it wasn't going to happen. I thought for sure Clark would be sporting a Dolphins' uniform and that Casey would get the tag. If Colon plays the way he did last year, he'll get a long-term deal.

I don't consider Starks to be elite, but he did show improvement over the season. Plus, he is under contract for the next three seasons. Often times, when you draft a lineman in the first, you want to start him ASAP.

pancake
04-21-2010, 10:28 PM
I don't think I like any of the picks... :noidea:

Chidi29
04-21-2010, 10:30 PM
I don't think I like any of the picks... :noidea:

Care to explain?

ggoldman
04-21-2010, 11:36 PM
we can package a 3rd, 5th, and 7th for a 2nd rounder

Kingmagyar
04-22-2010, 03:39 AM
Every Mock Draft I have seen has Cody going in the early 2nd round and Brandon Lafell going in the 3rd. Not sure the Steelers can reach at either position with more pressing needs at Cornerback I still can't believe all we have on the Roster right now at Right Corner is Willie Gay, Keenan Lewis, and Joe Burnett. We are in serious trouble at that position. We need a sure fire hit at cornerback more then any position on this team. To even wait to the 2nd round is dangerous in my opinion that we can find a starter right away.

Would love Cody and Lafell in the 2nd and 3rd rounds though.

Chidi29
04-22-2010, 03:36 PM
Every Mock Draft I have seen has Cody going in the early 2nd round and Brandon Lafell going in the 3rd. Not sure the Steelers can reach at either position with more pressing needs at Cornerback I still can't believe all we have on the Roster right now at Right Corner is Willie Gay, Keenan Lewis, and Joe Burnett. We are in serious trouble at that position. We need a sure fire hit at cornerback more then any position on this team. To even wait to the 2nd round is dangerous in my opinion that we can find a starter right away.

Would love Cody and Lafell in the 2nd and 3rd rounds though.

Like I said, I'd like for us to trade back to get Cody around 25-ish. That wouldn't be too much higher than projected.

And as I posted, we don't need a shutdown corner. Not in this zone scheme.

SteelerFanInStl
04-22-2010, 04:33 PM
Like I said, I'd like for us to trade back to get Cody around 25-ish. That wouldn't be too much higher than projected.

And as I posted, we don't need a shutdown corner. Not in this zone scheme.

We need a CB much more than we need a NT, especially a fat azz like Cody. I'd rather have Torrell Troup than Cody and he can be had in the 3rd. Let Cody be someone else's problem.

taztroy43
04-22-2010, 05:39 PM
We need a CB much more than we need a NT, especially a fat azz like Cody. I'd rather have Torrell Troup than Cody and he can be had in the 3rd. Let Cody be someone else's problem.

I rather have linval joseph in the 2nd instead of Cody!!!

Chidi29
04-22-2010, 06:34 PM
We need a CB much more than we need a NT, especially a fat azz like Cody. I'd rather have Torrell Troup than Cody and he can be had in the 3rd. Let Cody be someone else's problem.

Didn't say we needed to add help at CB, I have us drafting two, I just said LeBeau's scheme doesn't lend itself to having a shutdown, press coverage type of corner. We've only drafted two CBs in the first round since 1979.

Cody isn't really a problem. The guy isn't lazy. he's just big and needs to develop better endurance. We can provide him with those people to make sure that happens.

SteelerFanInStl
04-22-2010, 06:58 PM
Didn't say we needed to add help at CB, I have us drafting two, I just said LeBeau's scheme doesn't lend itself to having a shutdown, press coverage type of corner. We've only drafted two CBs in the first round since 1979.

Cody isn't really a problem. The guy isn't lazy. he's just big and needs to develop better endurance. We can provide him with those people to make sure that happens.

You're drafting a CB in the 4th and 5th. We did that last year with the 3rd and 5th round picks. We need a CB that can play this year and eventually be exceptional. Most likely you're not gonna get that from a guy taken that late. If Ike leaves after his contract is up next year, we're gonna be royally screwed if we don't take a top notch CB this year.

There's not much that I like about Cody. He's just a big fat kid. He doesn't even look like an athlete and his combine numbers were poor. How can someone his size only bench 225 22 times? That's just terrible. No way would I use a first or second round pick on him.