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Suitanim
02-07-2006, 01:09 PM
I was so hoping to take a weeks vacation from all Message Boards, and just enjoy the Super Bowl win, but after hearing every bitter Browns fan at work, people calling me from all over the Country talking shit about conspiracies and poor reffing, I had to come back and state a few facts before I get back to buying more 2005-06 NFL Championship Steelers gear.

Fact: The Steelers had an equal or greater number of poor calls called AGAINST them in the Colts game, but, instead of whining and choking, they finished the game and won.

Fact: The refs did not cause Seattle to poorly manage the clock at the end of both the first and second halves.

Fact: The refs did not magically shrink the field width when the Squaks had the ball and then expand it back for the Seahawks. I'm not sure if it was the WR coach or the WR's for Seattle who should be fired for not knowing where to "toe the line"

Fact: The refs were not involved in the defensive breakdown that allowed Willie Parker to sprint for 75 yards untouched.

Fact: The refs also were not involved in the trick play that every everybody (except, apparently, the 11 defenders and DC of Seattle) knew was coming.


The game wasn't a thing of beauty, and was far from the Steelers best effort this year, but if you think the refs influenced the ultimate final outcome of the game, you need to learn a LOT more about the game of football.

Actually, a more complete list is here:
http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=5166

augustashark
02-07-2006, 03:18 PM
If you can't win the game then the next best thing is to say the other team cheated! It not like they are the only team in NFL history to not win a game when out gaining the other team in total yards.....Hell, I know we have lost a few games like this in the last few years. They really act like if they b i t c h long and loud enough that somehow the NFL will take the win from us and give it to them.....Poor excuse of a team and fans.


Pathetic!

Seattle has'nt whined like this since that whale was caught up in the fishing net, or when a tree was cut down for fire wood to warm a family.

Did we think that these football ignorant tree hugging latte bonging freaks would be any different. I know I did'nt!

Get over it, losers!

83-Steelers-43
02-07-2006, 03:32 PM
[QUOTE=augustashark]It not like they are the only team in NFL history to not win a game when out gaining the other team in total yards.....Hell, I know we have lost a few games like this in the last few years.[QUOTE]

Game against the Texans is a perfect example. Let them cry. It's getting old.

BB2W
02-07-2006, 03:59 PM
This guy has got it, props to ESPN's Gene Wojciechowski...


And finally, can we stuff a very large sani-sock into the mouth of Seattle coach Mike Holmgren, and anyone else who says the refs had it out for the poor, little Seahawks?

The signs are very clever (Refs 21, Seahawks 10 ... or, Pittsburgh's 12th Man: The Refs), but they're bogus. It's how sore losers rationalize a final score. Worse yet, it's crying. And there's no crying in football, unless you're Hines Ward.

I know what you're thinking Cincinnati Bengals, Indianapolis Colts, Denver Broncos and, yes, Seattle Seahawks. You're thinking about the way the Steelers bumbled about in Ford Field, and you're saying to yourselves: "Tell me again how we lost to these guys?''

Think about Sunday's game:

Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger freaked out ... The best Pittsburgh pass of the day (and I'm stealing Michael Irvin's line here) was thrown by wide receiver Antwaan Randle El ... The Steelers' inspirational "hero,'' Jerome Bettis, rushed for a grand total of 43 yards and couldn't pound it in when Pittsburgh needed him most ... The Steelers had fewer passing yards, less time of possession, fewer total yards, and more turnovers.

And yet, the Steelers won by 11, covering the spread with ease. Conspiracy theories arrived moments later.

The refs stole it.

The NFL "wanted'' this.

The Seahawks were really the better team.

Look, the game itself was 3 hours and 36 minutes of yawns. I think we can all pretty much agree on that. I loved the story lines, but the game, not so much.

But to simply dismiss the Steelers victory as an act of referee kindness is to take a Bettis-sized leap of faith.

Sorry, but Seahawks receiver Darrell Jackson pushed off in the end zone. Did it gain him an advantage? Maybe. Maybe not. All that matters is that the official standing nearby -- a lot closer than John Madden, you or me -- thought so. Instead of a touchdown, Seattle settled for a 3-0 first quarter lead.

Sorry, but Roethlisberger might have broken the plane of the goal line on his second quarter 1-yard TD dive. Or not. That's what matters, right? Not where he landed, but if the ball broke the plane? The play was reviewed and upheld. What else was anyone supposed to do? And while there are no guarantees, if the ball had been spotted just short of the goal line, the Steelers were 100 percent on fourth-and-goals this season.

Sorry, I truly don't know whether Sean Locklear held Clark Haggans on that key fourth quarter call. Even if he didn't, and it was first-and-goal from the Pittsburgh 1, then what? If you can't guarantee Pittsburgh's scoring on fourth-and-inches in the second quarter, you can't guarantee Seattle's scoring on first-and-goal from the 1. Why? Because funny things happen, like the Bettis fumble against Indy. Or Roethlisberger's underthrowing a wide-open Cedrick Wilson against Seattle, costing the Steelers a sure touchdown or a likely field goal (the ball was at the Seahawks' 7). Instead, Kelly Herndon intercepted the crummy pass, returned it 76 yards and Seattle scored three plays later.

No one can deny there were questionable calls during the game. But before Holmgren and Latte Nation start whining about playing "the guys in the striped shirts as well,'' perhaps a history lesson is in order.

The striped shirts didn't cause tight end Jerramy Stevens to drop four passes. The striped shirts didn't cause the Seahawks defense to give up a Steelers first down on a third-and-28 situation (which later led to the Roethlisberger disputed TD). The striped shirts didn't cause the Seahawks defense to give up the longest touchdown run in Super Bowl history. They also didn't cause Etric Pruitt to sprint up from his safety position, only to be fooled by the trick play that resulted in Randle El's 43-yard TD pass to Ward (and by the way, if everyone knows the Steelers like to run gadget plays near midfield, don't you think the Seahawks knew it too?). Or cause Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck to throw a killer interception with nearly 11 minutes left in the game and Seattle trailing by only four points.

Enough already with the whining. The Seahawks had their chances. Plenty of them to overcome the Steelers and, if they insist, the refs, too.

Holmgren, who didn't exactly distinguish himself in the waning minutes of both halves, is no doubt suffering some post-Super Bowl anger. Perfectly understandable, especially in front of the thousands who greeted the team upon its return to Seattle. But days, weeks, months from now, when he's able to think more clearly, he'll realize the only people to blame for the loss were wearing Seahawks metallic blue, not black and white.


link: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2322300

BlitzburghRockCity
02-07-2006, 04:02 PM
Yep u got it suit.. its been nothing but seattle fans bitching and whining ever since sunday nite dude.. its really getting old; which is what prompted me to post up that sticky yesterday..

Welcome back man.. we're watching for all the whiners and complainers round here..they will not ruin our board or our celebration. :tt:

Suitanim
02-07-2006, 04:18 PM
Yep u got it suit.. its been nothing but seattle fans bitching and whining ever since sunday nite dude.. its really getting old; which is what prompted me to post up that sticky yesterday..

Welcome back man.. we're watching for all the whiners and complainers round here..they will not ruin our board or our celebration. :tt:

Actually, we owe the Squaks a debt of gratitude. There were 5-6 AFC teams that probably could have beat us Sunday the way we played.

Thankfully, next year the team won't have any Super Bowl jitters for the game in Miami:tt03:

silver & black
02-07-2006, 05:24 PM
Don't let the whiners ruin this for you. You earned this. The Steelers did what the Hawks couldn't... they dug down, and found a way to get it done, even though they didn't have their "A" game that day, that's what champions do.

Only you can let other people rain on your parade... don't let them!

BB2W
02-07-2006, 05:36 PM
Don't let the whiners ruin this for you. You earned this. The Steelers did what the Hawks couldn't... they dug down, and found a way to get it done, even though they didn't have their "A" game that day, that's what champions do.

Only you can let other people rain on your parade... don't let them!
Thanks bro... :thmbup:

Milkman
02-07-2006, 06:01 PM
Well said Suit. :sign01: :tt: