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SteelKnight
04-29-2010, 06:22 PM
OK. Enough time has passed so we can express ourselves with less emotion.

What is your wish for Holmes?

TheWarDen86
04-29-2010, 06:30 PM
I'm not over the heart break yet. lol

SteelKnight
04-29-2010, 06:32 PM
I like the guy and if they had traded him to an NFC team, it would have allowed me to root for him more easily but as of now, I can't. My general thing is I don't root for ex-Steelers unless we have an equal or better person to replace him. (i.e. He doesn't hurt our team by leaving). For me to feel that way about Holmes both the #2 and #3 positions must be good...so if Wallace does well AND Sweed or Sanders can step up, I'll reconsider.

vasteeler
04-29-2010, 06:33 PM
wheres the tom bradys gay option?:noidea:

polamalubeast
04-29-2010, 06:34 PM
Love the guy.:hug: I hope he plays well except against the Steelers.:tt03:

SteelGhost
04-29-2010, 06:35 PM
I wish he has a BAD game on December 19th at Heinz Field :chuckle:

HometownGal
04-29-2010, 06:51 PM
Love the guy.:hug: I hope he plays well except against the Steelers.:tt03:

^^^ This to the letter.

Santo was one of my favorite Steelers and I wish him the very best with the Jets EXCEPT when he plays us, of course. :chuckle:

Thanks for the awesome memories buddy. :drink:

BlastFurnace
04-29-2010, 07:00 PM
Don't really care anymore.

He was one of my favorite Steelers, but he's not a Steeler any longer and it's because of his own selfish attitude. He'd still be a Steeler if he did the right things.

I don't wish him any harm or misfortune, but I don't really care how he does any longer either.

Nadroj 20
04-29-2010, 07:08 PM
when a guy makes one hell of a catch to win us our 6th ring its hard to hate him no matter what. I hope he plays well for the Jets, but not well against us.

SteelKnight
04-29-2010, 08:09 PM
Some people just have a hard time kicking drugs. Even though pot does not have physiological dependence,it has a psychological dependence for many.

I know Santonio will use pot again...maybe not this year but he will and when he does, if he gets caught, he will face a 1 year suspension (probably 2011 season). It's like if you catch guy with porn and tell him never to look again for the rest of his life and if he looks, you will be able to tell for a month..um trouble.

It's too bad too because perhaps pot should be legal. It would clear a lot of spaces in jail and we could make some money from taxing it. My only concern would be road safety. I suppose they could develop a test like alcohol that quantifies it and then tell people they can't drive if they think they've reached a certain level. That would be tricky. I don't want baked people running into me on the road. Other than that, I'd be for legalizing it. If it were legal, Santonio Holmes would not be viewed as evil...instead he would be viewed as a Steeler.

At the same time, although the confidentiality prevents anyone from telling us what the substance is, maybe it was something more serious like cocaine.

DoubleSh0t
04-29-2010, 08:23 PM
I wish him well. Unfortunately, I see him getting in trouble again. Pot is a lifestyle for many people, and it's a tough habit to break even if it's not physically addictive as SteelKnight mentioned. But maybe being released from the best organization in the NFL will be an eye opener for him. I hope so, because there's no doubt that he is a very talented player. Time will tell.

SteelKnight
04-29-2010, 08:53 PM
I admire the stance most of you are taking. I chose the 3rd option. I just wish the Steelers had sent him to the NFC so I could be like you guys and enjoy rooting for him. I wish. With the Patriots being dominant in that division and Baltimore and Cinci improving, it could be a fight for a wildcard spot. IDK.

The Steelers could have sent him to a pretty good NFC team. If I were them, I'd rather take a 6th round pick and send him NFC than keep him in the conference for a fifth. If they picked a bad team, his contract was only one year so there would have been nothing stopping him from playing the year then coming back and joining the Ravens or Bengals to get back at us...so a good NFC team would have been fair. Send him to the Falcons and never worry about im again.

Notice as soon as the Steelers traded him the media cut down on that story about the Florida woman and the glass? What gives? I guess they wanted some juice and the trade was more exciting than either the suspension or the glass/woman.

Meanwhile Ronnie Brown, Joe Porter and Big Baby love the Steelers for keeping their stories low key.

Steeldude
04-29-2010, 09:22 PM
he was a troublesome and overrated WR who never lived up to his draft rank.

SteelKnight
04-29-2010, 10:30 PM
he was a troublesome and overrated WR who never lived up to his draft rank.

Even though I disagree with you (I think he was awesome), I was really getting tired of the dramatics after each catch. I know it gave an impression of him being too amazed with himself (arrogant) but I think it pointed to something missing....a longing to get more credit or be called greater...a longing to be more popular and more worshiped. Had he been satisfied, he would have toned back the dramatics. I hated it. I think Tomlin should have told him to save the dramatics for touchdowns or receptions greater than 50 yards.

But he was awesome...

wootawnee
04-29-2010, 10:55 PM
I hope he goes on youtube and burns a big fat one..........

MasterOfPuppets
04-29-2010, 11:02 PM
screw him... the steelers made a big investment in him and stood behind him after his other unlawful activities. he promised to clean up his act and he didn't . basically he took a dump on the organization. i'm looking forward to his next screw up and the suspension that follows. why should the jets get to reap the reward for the steelers patients and efforts to straighten his punk ass out ?

SteelKnight
04-29-2010, 11:12 PM
screw him... the steelers made a big investment in him and stood behind him after his other unlawful activities. he promised to clean up his act and he didn't . basically he took a dump on the organization. i'm looking forward to his next screw up and the suspension that follows. why should the jets get to reap the reward for the steelers patients and efforts to straighten his punk ass out ?

One thing I'm grateful for Wallace says he tought him a bunch and he gave some examples. That's great because Wallace is going to be a star. I looked at the stats and given the fact that he was not a starter, Wallace's numbers are amazing.

steelerdude15
04-29-2010, 11:46 PM
I wouldn't say I loved him, but I liked him a lot and I wish him the best of luck. Of course, I want the Steelers to beat the Jets.

RoethlisBURGHer
04-29-2010, 11:47 PM
I am extra biased towards Holmes. Not only was he a Steeler, and his catch won us our record sixth Lombardi Trophy....I am also a HUGE Buckeye fan.

I hope he does well unless he plays is. Then I hope he has the worst games of his career on those days.

Riddle_Of_Steel
04-29-2010, 11:59 PM
I agree that pot should be legal and I for one do not think it negatively impacted his performance (heck, he played better before he got caught the first time and forced to quit LOL). I also don't see anything wrong with smoking it.....unless your employer forbids it and requires you to take random drug tests.

So...in short, even though I see nothing wrong with some recreational grass use-- the rules are the rules. When you break them, you cannot blame anyone but yourself for the consequences. He was given plenty of chances by the team, but he wouldn't play by the rules, and besides his pot smoking, he had a number of other stupid offenses.

I don't wish him any harm or bad fortune with the Jets, but I don't think he ever lived up to his draft selection with us, and now that he isn't a Steeler-- I couldn't care less about him.

Galax Steeler
04-30-2010, 03:30 AM
I kind of hope he plays decent in New York nothing great.

solardave
04-30-2010, 06:47 AM
Santonio who? I stuck by him while he screwed the pooch. He will always be one of those "I GUESS YOU DON'T KNOW WHO I AM" kind of guys to me. Like Irvin. Thinks he's above the law.

SteelerFanInStl
04-30-2010, 08:33 AM
I'm still sorry to see him go and wish him success. I hope that he gets his life straightened out. That's gotta be his first priority.

Third Rail
04-30-2010, 11:20 AM
I don't care what anyone says... Holmes is an amazing athlete and the Steelers are a lesser team without him. Not that I don't have faith in Wallace, Ward and some of our other receivers, but Holmes is a rare talent and seriously underrated. Not only did he make what might be remembered as the greatest catch in Steelers history, but he was also instrumental in EVERY playoff game (and the game that got us into the playoffs) that year and we might not have even sniffed the Super Bowl had it not been for him.

Sure, the off-the-field stuff is troubling... I really couldn't care less about the pot-smoking but (allegedly) throwing a glass at someone isn't good and he's had some other troubles in the past. But well, I really think that when the Steelers need someone to catch a 20-yard pass and then take it another 40-60 yards down the field... they're going to realize just how essential he was.

stb_steeler
04-30-2010, 01:47 PM
Don't really care anymore.

He was one of my favorite Steelers, but he's not a Steeler any longer and it's because of his own selfish attitude. He'd still be a Steeler if he did the right things.

I don't wish him any harm or misfortune, but I don't really care how he does any longer either.

I agree, he did great things for the Steelers but he has chosen the path he leads.

SteelKnight
04-30-2010, 02:11 PM
I agree that pot should be legal and I for one do not think it negatively impacted his performance (heck, he played better before he got caught the first time and forced to quit LOL). I also don't see anything wrong with smoking it.....unless your employer forbids it and requires you to take random drug tests.

So...in short, even though I see nothing wrong with some recreational grass use-- the rules are the rules. When you break them, you cannot blame anyone but yourself for the consequences. He was given plenty of chances by the team, but he wouldn't play by the rules, and besides his pot smoking, he had a number of other stupid offenses.

I don't wish him any harm or bad fortune with the Jets, but I don't think he ever lived up to his draft selection with us, and now that he isn't a Steeler-- I couldn't care less about him.

Two points:

1. Yeah...the pot thing, the only thing that I worry about as far as legalizing it is road safety. I don't want baked people slamming into me. If it were not for that, I honestly think we are at the point were we've studied it enough and can't find enough scary.

I guess I wonder whether it would also make kids less motivated because surely we would say it is for adults and kids would be smoking it left and right. IDK.

Even if we keep it illegal, as long as you are not selling it, I don't think you should go to jail (or be arrested)...maybe a huge fine and required couseling...but maybe people would not take it seriously...lol

BTW, I've never smoked pot. lol

2.Santonio in trouble again. He just doesn't get it and I'm glad it is not the Steelers problem anymore. If I were Goodell, I would pull a surprise drug test right now. He was being unreasonable. Was he on something? He is stupid to not think this would bring bad attention or stupid not to care.

stlrtruck
04-30-2010, 02:14 PM
I wish him well until he plays the Steelers, then I wish he gets destroyed!

AllD
04-30-2010, 03:16 PM
I really love the guy for what he did in the playoffs and Super Bowl. He was our Reggie Jackson. Too bad he has a classic self-destructive streak. It will be a sorry day when he ends up like Plax or worse.

SteelKnight
04-30-2010, 05:39 PM
I really love the guy for what he did in the playoffs and Super Bowl. He was our Reggie Jackson. Too bad he has a classic self-destructive streak. It will be a sorry day when he ends up like Plax or worse.

Yeah. I think the key to survive an inner city past is to not like the inner city. I have friends who grew up in the inner city who are successful. None of them liked the inner city and they are happy to be out of there. I know some wo have been inspired to help inner city kids and have even set up programs to help...they are empathetic but they still don't like it.

Those who take pride in being from the inner city and have to "represent" or feel bad when their old friends say they are abandoning them, don't do as well. If they feel the upbringing is a part of their core and they are proud of it, it is not a good sign. It will be hard to escape the negative influences. I'm not saying Holmes was this way. I just don't know for sure. Maybe he was in between. I don't have any friends in this second group. They hang with their original neighborhood people.

The inner city is not great. The projects are not great. It is what it is. People should try to get out...not take pride in it. People should not feel embarrassed or like traitors for wanting to escape.

It's rather simple.

wootawnee
05-02-2010, 02:28 AM
I agree that pot should be legal and I for one do not think it negatively impacted his performance (heck, he played better before he got caught the first time and forced to quit LOL). I also don't see anything wrong with smoking it.....unless your employer forbids it and requires you to take random drug tests.

So...in short, even though I see nothing wrong with some recreational grass use-- the rules are the rules. When you break them, you cannot blame anyone but yourself for the consequences. He was given plenty of chances by the team, but he wouldn't play by the rules, and besides his pot smoking, he had a number of other stupid offenses.

I don't wish him any harm or bad fortune with the Jets, but I don't think he ever lived up to his draft selection with us, and now that he isn't a Steeler-- I couldn't care less about him.

1. Pot is legal where I live........

2. That catch in the superbowl was all he needed to do to live up to that #1 pick.......We got our value out of him........Fact he had that long catch and run to the 6?.....
If we get a superbowl victory with every 1rnd draft pic then I say we are doing something right...........There goes Cowher's last first rounder.........

3. My favorite holms play,besides the ones above, was the rookie catch in otime for a td to boot the bungles out of the hunt.......lol I sitll get a good gut feeling about that......

SMR
05-02-2010, 07:49 AM
wheres the tom bradys gay option?:noidea:

I was wonderin' the same. Dang...

SMR
05-02-2010, 07:50 AM
Tom Brady is gay

Stanley
05-02-2010, 10:05 AM
OK. Enough time has passed so we can express ourselves with less emotion.

What is your wish for Holmes?

I think the Steelers made the right decision regardless of whether SH plays well or not.
:helmet:

AndyWitmyer
05-02-2010, 02:59 PM
Looks like the people who were praying for Holmes to fail can start clinking their bottles of Miller High Life whilst dishing out some "I told you so" high-fives... or whatever...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AoZlX_bMhqh056ItUMbcd_xDubYF?slug=ap-jets-holmes-flightflap

I'm sure this will eventually pan out to be a non-story... but wow, I guess Holmes just couldn't wait to start a new round of bad press...!

chitownpit
05-02-2010, 03:28 PM
I vote he gets traded again, to the raiders. Mater of fact i believe if the league changed the drug policey to an instant trade to the raiders the drug problem in the nfl would be gone. End of story . Or you have to room with tom brady all year. well that would raise the suicide rate 200% so maybe thats a little harsh

AndyWitmyer
05-02-2010, 03:42 PM
I vote he gets traded again, to the raiders. Mater of fact i believe if the league changed the drug policey to an instant trade to the raiders the drug problem in the nfl would be gone. End of story . Or you have to room with tom brady all year. well that would raise the suicide rate 200% so maybe thats a little harsh

:toofunny:

I heard about the instant trade rule with the Raiders. I also heard the Rooney's understood the law as covering alleged rapists also and were somewhat discouraged when the Raiders told them that the Ben Trade was "off the table", mainly due to the "absence of a serious drug problem" in Ben's life. While the Raiders were clearly moved by Ben's passion for drinking, they actually require that you show up for an interview with a set of needles and at least one or two track marks. Evidently, it takes more than drinking like a champion every night and being involved in multiple sexual assault charges to join the vaunted Raiders.

The Tom Brady rule on the other hand... come on, is Ben (or Holmes for that matter) really THAT bad to deserve such a fate?!?