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SteelerEmpire
05-11-2010, 03:12 PM
Ouch !!! .... LINK: http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/bestoftv/2010/05/11/ac.obama.birth.cnn.html

revefsreleets
05-11-2010, 03:36 PM
These birther fruitloops need to finally let this one go. Having this guy on point will only give them false hope that this dead horse can be resurrected...

When the sleazy lawyer condescendingly stated "I'm the lawyer", as if that actually MEANS something, I almost puked...

MasterOfPuppets
05-11-2010, 03:45 PM
as has been pointed out a thousand times, if there was anything to this, hillary clinton would have been all over it long before the presidential election... these fools are doing nothing but lining that lawyers pockets. i bet if they asked the lawyer to represent for free out of patriotic duty he'd laugh at them. he's getting paid reguardless of the outcome.

Indo
05-11-2010, 04:24 PM
I see the points made here, but on the other hand, Anderson Cooper is a First-Class D/ckhead. He should understand AND RESPECT the Lawyer-Client relationship and the wish of most lawyers to speak for their clients (even if the lawyer is a douche). Also, he should respect the HUMAN BEING TO HUMAN BEING RELATIONSHIP and practice his interpersonal skills----he barely let either of the two being interviewed complete a single sentence or thought. Yet he continually corrected them when they interrupted him. That's GREAT reporting, Anderson. Why don't you give us your Opinion, and see to it that the converse opinion is completely quenched. Douche.

As far as the Birth Certificate goes---
I have my reservations. Why would ANYONE have any issue whatsoever in turning over his/her ORIGINAL Birth Certificate? Especially knowing that it would END this insanity? Unless, of course, there was something fishy about the whole thing.
It makes one go, "Hmmmmm".
But it is a moot point this late in the game. There is NO WAY the current POTUS is NOT a US citizen. EVEN IF HE IS NOT A US CITIZEN. Does everyone follow? If he is truly not a citizen, the govt CANNOT admit that it made a mistake in allowing a non-citizen to become President and, therefore, they "create" his citizenship.

Let it go already.

Vincent
05-12-2010, 10:07 AM
Anderson Cooper is a First-Class D/ckhead.

A keen observation indeed, Indo! But I have to take issue with the "douche" comment as it is an affront to douches everywhere.

I was amused to see that in the clip they displayed the forgery of the "birth 'record'" that has been bandied about the Internet rather than "the 'official' version". But in "fairness", that may be because there isn't an "'official' version". :rofl: :flap:

Yeah, let it go Vincent.

Why would ANYONE have any issue whatsoever in turning over his/her ORIGINAL Birth Certificate? Especially knowing that it would END this insanity? Unless, of course, there was something fishy about the whole thing.

That's my position. Produce the cert and it all goes away. What could possibly be the problem with that? Unless...

Another element of mystery and intrigue has emerged. Seems that the Kenyan interloper has a soshacurity number that was issued in Connecticut between 1977 and 1979. So what? Well he never lived in Connecticut and has no relatives who lived there either. His earliest "employment" reportedly was in 1975 at a Baskin-Robbins in Hawaii. Yeah, why would that raise any concern? He's consistent if nothing else. He hasn't released his education records, scholarly articles, passport documents, medical records, papers from his "service" in the Illinois state Senate, Illinois State Bar Association records, or any :blah:

I don't care what takes him down. Something will. He stinks like an open grave.

revefsreleets
05-12-2010, 11:20 AM
If he lost his original, this is probably all they are going to provide. This is the law of parsimony...the simplest solution is usually also the correct one.

Indo
05-12-2010, 12:03 PM
If he lost his original, this is probably all they are going to provide. This is the law of parsimony...the simplest solution is usually also the correct one.

Yes. And that may be all that this amounts to. But all of the secrecy regarding all of these documents (which are supposedly a matter of public record) raises questions in my mind (Not that I would ruin my career, as this Lt. Colonel has ruined his). Hopefully, though, someone will take the initiative (Some Legislator) to see that this NEVER happens again.

I had to prove my US citizenship in order to register to vote. Since the Constitution demands that the Pres.-elect is a U.S, citizen maybe it would be wise that he/she proves it BEFORE being allowed on the ticket to be elected.


just sayin'....because I certainly do not know The Truth in this matter

revefsreleets
05-12-2010, 12:14 PM
It's probably a good idea for this to come out into the light...let it go to trial and the kooks can all have their day in court. Then this dead horse that has been beaten into glue can finally, once and for all, be laid to rest.

The Patriot
05-12-2010, 03:19 PM
Why would you refuse an order to go help your wounded comrades in Iraq? Principle?

Vincent
05-12-2010, 04:38 PM
I had to prove my US citizenship in order to register to vote.

It's probably a good idea for this to come out into the light...let it go to trial and the kooks can all have their day in court.

Why would you refuse an order to go help your wounded comrades in Iraq? Principle?

Inasmuch as any of us had to present proof of citizenship to vote, and that natural citizenship is a constitutional requirement to occupy the White House, its only reasonable to require that the Kenyan interloper furnish us with definitive documentation to that effect. Its such a basic thing to "ask", and I don't think it should marginalize anyone that seeks that end.

As for those that refuse orders from the Kenyan interloper, until he ponies up the proof, they're right to do so. I admire their fortitude because they'll certainly be dragged through the muck by the folks they serve.

Yes Revs, a day in court would be appropriate. Then it'll all go away. One way or the other.

MasterOfPuppets
05-12-2010, 05:47 PM
I think it has been said a hundred times even here....

but it bares saying again.

Obama was running against the Clinton machine in the primaries. If they couldn't find anything, there is nothing to be found. Period.

As much as I dislike the politics and the personalities of the Clintons, It must be stated that they are probably the best political operatives this country has seen in a generation. Very impressive.

no doubt. hillary is like a pitbull and NEVER would have let it go if she thought for a second there was something to it. plus i'm sure she has far more resources to mount an investigation than this soldier and his money grubbin lawyer has.

Vincent
05-12-2010, 05:50 PM
Obama was running against the Clinton machine in the primaries. If they couldn't find anything, there is nothing to be found. Period.

This isn't about what the clintons didn't find. Its about presenting qualification to hold the office. That hasn't happened. Until it does, the issue won't go away.

But it would be so simple to make it go away. One wonders why they spend $ millions on lawyers to avoid the inevitable.

The Patriot
05-12-2010, 09:34 PM
This isn't about what the clintons didn't find. Its about presenting qualification to hold the office. That hasn't happened. Until it does, the issue won't go away.

But it would be so simple to make it go away. One wonders why they spend $ millions on lawyers to avoid the inevitable.

Here you go!

http://thestarkperspective.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/obamas-birth-certificate.jpg

Yes, yes, I know its not the original physical copy, but it is an authenticated document by the State of Hawaii, and that's all the Supreme Court requires as proof of citizenship. If you think there is some kind of conspiracy, then the burden of proof is on you, and the nonexistence of an original paper document is not evidence enough to prove he is not a natural-born citizen.

A black man is president. Deal with it. :rolleyes:

MasterOfPuppets
05-12-2010, 09:46 PM
hmmmm.... back in 1961 ,wouldn't they have used the word "negro" as the official term to describe race ? i didn't think they started using "african" until about 20 years ago or so...:noidea:

NJarhead
05-12-2010, 09:50 PM
Here you go!

http://thestarkperspective.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/obamas-birth-certificate.jpg

Yes, yes, I know its not the original physical copy, but it is an authenticated document by the State of Hawaii, and that's all the Supreme Court requires as proof of citizenship. If you think there is some kind of conspiracy, then the burden of proof is on you, and the nonexistence of an original paper document is not evidence enough to prove he is not a natural-born citizen.

A black man is president. Deal with it. :rolleyes:

I'm not aware that his color has EVER been an issue. I don't like him because he's a bullshit artist, period.

That said, I do give him kudos on a few things:
-Staying the course in Afghanistan.
-Allowing guns in National Parks (if only because its away from the normal thinking of a Dem).
- ....well, I thought there was a third but it's escaping me.:chuckle:

Vincent
05-12-2010, 10:23 PM
A black man is president. Deal with it. :rolleyes:

Stop with the insipid race baiting. I can think of several "black people" I'd rather see in the White House instead of the Kenyan interloper, and in front of most of the white candidates.

Race has nothing to do with it. Qualifications do.

The Patriot
05-12-2010, 10:31 PM
Stop with the insipid race baiting. I can think of several "black people" I'd rather see in the White House instead of the Kenyan interloper, and in front of most of the white candidates.

Race has nothing to do with it. Qualifications do.

Qualifications? Do you honestly care where a baby spends the first three months of his life? Or are you just trying to nab a president who you don't like on a technicality?

Godfather
05-12-2010, 10:32 PM
If he no longer has the long form there's not much he can do. And he doesn't need to....legally, the short form is a birth certificate. And the legal authority on where he was born is the Hawaii Department of Health and Hospitals...and they say Honolulu so that's the final word.

There's no point in responding to the birfers. There could be a video of the birth with a volcano visible through the window behind his mom, and the doctor running in from a luau wearing a grass skirt, and a Hawaii radio station playing in the background, all while R. Kelly pees on a 15 year old girl in front of the cops and his grandmother, and the birfers would still move the goalposts and say it wasn't enough.

Hell, even if there is a long form out there he's better off not producing it. The birfers are useful idiots who allow Obama to paint his opponents as kooks, and it's a nice distraction from his horrible policies.

Godfather
05-12-2010, 10:33 PM
Qualifications? Do you honestly care where a baby spends the first three months of his life? Or are you just trying to nab a president who you don't like on a technicality?

Well, the first three months matter. That's why Mel Martinez can't be President.

The Patriot
05-12-2010, 10:38 PM
I'm not aware that his color has EVER been an issue. I don't like him because he's a bullshit artist, period.

That said, I do give him kudos on a few things:
-Staying the course in Afghanistan.
-Allowing guns in National Parks (if only because its away from the normal thinking of a Dem).
- ....well, I thought there was a third but it's escaping me.:chuckle:

Don't forget SOCIALized medicine!

Thank god the Tea Party is on his case. :sofunny:

http://washingtonindependent.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Medicare.jpg

Vincent
05-12-2010, 10:52 PM
Qualifications? Do you honestly care where a baby spends the first three months of his life? Or are you just trying to nab a president who you don't like on a technicality?

Yes.

If it were "just" the circumstances of birth, I wouldn't really care except that our constitution is in conflict. Its the rest of his murky, seedy background, his associations, his written and spoken words, his appalling lack of experience at anything other than "organizing", and his shoddy record in elected office that do it for me.

I would be content with anything that ends this sham.

What, in your mind, qualifies him?

NJarhead
05-12-2010, 10:53 PM
Don't forget SOCIALized medicine!

Thank god the Tea Party is on his case. :sofunny:




You're right, Kudos to him for getting it passed knowing that it won't be deemed unconstitutional until his term is over...or *gulp* he gets reelected.

Keeeeeeep laughing little fella.....while you can.