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TheWarDen86
05-18-2010, 04:56 PM
Obama raps GOP as 'just-say-no crowd' on economy
By ERICA WERNER (AP) 1 hour ago
YOUNGSTOWN, Ohio Lumping Republicans together as the "just say no" crowd, President Barack Obama challenged his critics on Tuesday to explain why they oppose his steps to fix the economy. Said Obama: "Tell us why doing nothing would be better for America."
In the latest campaign stop for his economic agenda, this one in struggling Ohio, Obama took concerted swipes at what he called the "unified, determined opposition of one party." He said it's not too late for bipartisanship, even as he criticized those he said were badmouthing his efforts.
"If the just-say-no crowd had won out if we had done things the way they wanted to go we'd be in a deeper world of hurt," Obama said, in the swing state of Ohio. Unemployment there is close to 11 percent, above the already-high nationwide average of nearly 10 percent.
The president came to explain and defend economic stimulus spending, and measures like tax credits and extended unemployment benefits he'd championed with mostly Democratic support in Congress. Without those measures, he said, "the steady progress we are beginning to see across America just wouldn't exist."
Republicans have opposed the steep cost of Obama's plans and criticized the pace of the promised recovery, particularly on the key measure of jobs.
His comments came on a day of closely watched primary elections in Kentucky, Pennsylvania and Arkansas, which are shaping up as a referendum on incumbent Democrats and to a degree the president.
Two Democratic senators Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas faced stiff challenges from fellow Democrats, who say the senators were not sufficiently loyal to party priorities. And in a special House race in southwestern Pennsylvania that's attracted high spending from the national political parties, a Republican and Democrat faced off to see who would serve out the final few months in the term of the late Democratic Rep. John Murtha.
The president is on a drive to show people that the country's economy is getting better, even as their individual situations may not be yet. He got out of Washington and donned a hard hat, goggles and a fire-retardant jacket while touring a hot, noisy plant where metal piping was being manufactured.
He acknowledged that some may not be impressed by a president swooping into town, when all they want to see is a headline saying: "You're hired."
Still, he tried to keep spirits up for employees at V&M STAR, a place he said is benefiting directly from his economic policies.
The parent company of the V&M is spending $650 million to build a 1 million-square-foot mill in Youngstown now that the nearby Norfolk Southern railroad is building a spur, thanks to money from last year's stimulus act. To applause from the assembled workers, Obama said it would be the biggest industrial plant built in the region since a GM plant went up in nearby Lordstown in the 1960s.
Overall, the U.S. economy grew at an annual rate of 3.2 percent in the first three months of this year. In April, payroll jobs grew by 290,000, the most in four years. The unemployment rate actually rose to 9.9 percent. But that was seen by some analysts as a positive sign, attributed to more people starting or resuming job searches, because they're feeling more optimistic about the job market.
Obama tried to blame Republicans for slowing the recovery with their opposition. "For all the things we've gotten done despite the unified, determined opposition of one party, imagine how much farther we could have gotten if I'd gotten a little help," he said.
The stop was the latest on Obama's White House_to_Main Street tour of towns and businesses, often in economically depressed regions.
The president was in Buffalo, N.Y., last week, and before that made stops in Allentown, Pa., Charlotte, N.C., Savannah, Ga., and Quincy, Ill.
His message has been consistent: The economy is beginning to recover thanks in part to his administration's policies, many of them unpopular with voters.
It's not clear that Obama's tour is doing much to turn around public sentiment. An Associated Press-GfK poll released Saturday found that just 35 percent of respondents said the country is heading in the right direction, the lowest measured by the AP-GfK survey since a week before Obama took office in January 2009. His approval rating remains at 49 percent, as low as it's been since he become president.
Associated Press writers Charles Babington and Ben Feller contributed to this report.
Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

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He's been "rapping" since he got into office:
"Bdddddt! Stick 'em, ha-ha-ha- Stick 'em!"

:toofunny:

revefsreleets
05-19-2010, 08:45 AM
Here's the problem with Obama's rhetoric this time:

The parent company is investing $650 in the new plant.

Stimulus money is kicking in a paltry 20 million.

Yet he is claiming responsibility for the success for the WHOLE project! HIS spendulus brought this project to the Mahoning Valley! It'd be funny if it wasn't so sad...and what's worse is that the uneducated working class schlups who voted for him and attended this event will buy every word he says as gospel truth. I point of fact, his spendulus bill has NOTHING to do with this plant, and has NOTHING to do with the natural and inevitable recovery underway.

Also, Rasmussen has his approval rating at 45, not 49, and dropping...it'll be at my predicted 33% by mid-2011...

Vincent
05-19-2010, 12:26 PM
I recall a similar clinton tantrum. "No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, ...."

http://newsbusters.org/static/2008/07/CryingClinton.jpg

Indo
05-19-2010, 01:19 PM
OK.
So I'm kind of slow and stuff just doesn't sink into my brain too good.

Can one of you smarter folk 'splain this to me:

The unemployment rate actually rose to 9.9 percent. But that was seen by some analysts as a positive sign, attributed to more people starting or resuming job searches, because they're feeling more optimistic about the job market.


Does this mean that these analysts see the increasing unemployment rate during this Economy-saving session of Obamanomics as a positive sign because people, as "they're feeling more optimistic about the job market" are quitting their current jobs (thus making the unemployment rate falsely elevated) in order to search the job market for all of these better jobs that have been created?

I'm a bit confused. Please help.

Vincent
05-19-2010, 02:03 PM
Does this mean that these analysts see the increasing unemployment rate during this Economy-saving session of Obamanomics as a positive sign because people, as "they're feeling more optimistic about the job market" are quitting their current jobs (thus making the unemployment rate falsely elevated) in order to search the job market for all of these better jobs that have been created?

I'm a bit confused. Please help.

This is what the folks in the noospaper bidniss call "bull$hit". bho has his shills.

Also, Rasmussen has his approval rating at 45, not 49, and dropping...it'll be at my predicted 33% by mid-2011...

45 and falling...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_total_approval_graphics/may_2010/obama_total_approval_may_19_2010/314521-1-eng-US/obama_total_approval_may_19_2010.jpg

Even more telling is that folks that "strongly disapprove" are equaling his approval numbers...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/var/plain/storage/images/media/obama_index_graphics/may_2010/obama_approval_index_may_19_2010/314518-1-eng-US/obama_approval_index_may_19_2010.jpg

And the delta between "strongly disapprove" and "strongly approve" is nearly 20 points. He's so poison he can't go near a candidate.

http://s647.photobucket.com/albums/uu191/vinnyq/O-LOLsmall.jpg

...if it wasn't so damn pathetic.

Indo
05-19-2010, 02:34 PM
Soooooo,
If I extrapolate (my, that's a BIG word) the Approval/Disapproval data from the Employment/Unemployment data...

Analysts believe that the Disapproval Rate is actually a positive for the President because those that previously approved of the Pres. have switched their polling answers to "Disapprove" temporarily. Then, when they switch their answer back to "Approve" in the future, the total change in the percentage of those voting"Approve" will have increased, thus conveying the sense of an even greater Approval to the citizens of this Great Nation.

Wow.
This is getting kinda easy...

Vincent
05-19-2010, 03:21 PM
Soooooo,
If I extrapolate (my, that's a BIG word) the Approval/Disapproval data from the Employment/Unemployment data...

Analysts believe that the Disapproval Rate is actually a positive for the President because those that previously approved of the Pres. have switched their polling answers to "Disapprove" temporarily. Then, when they switch their answer back to "Approve" in the future, the total change in the percentage of those voting"Approve" will have increased, thus conveying the sense of an even greater Approval to the citizens of this Great Nation.

Wow.
This is getting kinda easy...

Alright Doctor, enough with the $25 words in the forum. Pictures and emoticons suffice nicely.

I speculated ($12.99 on sale) earlier that what we might be seeing here is unvarnished BS. But now you have me thinking (that in itself presents danger) that we might be seeing a sort of "George Costanza Opposite World" phenomenon ($14.99 with 'speculated'). And we assume they're not polling the same 1500 folks each day. It's all most dissettling.

revefsreleets
05-19-2010, 03:36 PM
He went from a +28 to his current -17.

You're doing a heckuva job, Obamie!

TheWarDen86
05-19-2010, 03:37 PM
He went from a +28 to his current -17.

You're doing a heckuva job, Ocommie!

Fixed. :chuckle:

revefsreleets
05-19-2010, 03:39 PM
Well, I don't think he's a commie or even a socialist...he's just a really GREAT politician, and a horrible president.

TheWarDen86
05-19-2010, 03:41 PM
Well, I don't think he's a commie or even a socialist...he's just a really GREAT politician, and a horrible president.

I think you'll ended up rethinking the "great politician" part before it's all said and done. I think he's on the path to political suicide myself.

revefsreleets
05-19-2010, 03:48 PM
I think you'll ended up rethinking the "great politician" part before it's all said and done. I think he's on the path to political suicide myself.

ONLY a great politician could go from community organizer to President of the US in a few short years.

TheWarDen86
05-19-2010, 03:48 PM
ONLY a great politician could go from community organizer to President of the US in a few short years.


Flash in the pan IMO.

revefsreleets
05-19-2010, 03:55 PM
Remember, being a great politician really means nothing other than the ability to somehow get elected.

Being a good LEADER is an entirely different skill-set.

Politicians are like lawyers and people who clean phones for a living, a penny for a hundred. Good leaders are rare indeed...

TheWarDen86
05-19-2010, 03:56 PM
Remember, being a great politician really means nothing other than the ability to somehow get elected.

Being a good LEADER is an entirely different skill-set.

Politicians are like lawyers and people who clean phones for a living, a penny for a hundred. Good leaders are rare indeed...

Totally agree about the rarity of good leaders, but I liken a good politician to their longevity more than anything.

Vincent
05-19-2010, 04:26 PM
ONLY a great politician could go from community organizer to President of the US in a few short years.

Only a superior packaging job by very connected and determined handlers, an obsequious "media", and a stupefyingly moronic electorate could elevate a 2 bit ward "politician" with his "background" and associations from New Party candidate to PotUS in a few short years. That PoS is anything but a great politician. He can't complete a sentence without a teleprompter. No. No, I gave him too much credit there - he can't even FORM a sentence with or without a teleprompter.

Indo
05-19-2010, 04:38 PM
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