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mesaSteeler
05-21-2010, 10:24 AM
(I rarely post anything from that Steeler hating tool Florio but this is the only link I can find. - mesa)
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/20/commissioner-believes-off-field-conduct-should-be-considered-in-hall-of-fame-voting/

Commissioner believes off-field conduct should be considered in Hall of Fame voting
Posted by Mike Florio on May 20, 2010 10:46 AM ET

As we've mentioned a time or two over the past couple of weeks, we're in the process of preparing a PFT/NBC season preview magazine. Since our business model rarely has involved getting you to actually pay money for stuff, we realize that we need to motivate you to do something that you rarely have had to do when it comes to visiting this site.

Since we can't ply you with drinks like they do in casinos, we'll instead be teasing a little of the content from time to time over the next few weeks.

Here's one that we'll have a hard time topping.

On Monday of this week, I spent a full 30 minutes interviewing Commissioner Roger Goodell in his personal office at NFL headquarters in New York. (And with all due respect to Brian Baumgartner a/k/a Kevin Malone of The Office, the visit to the Commish's fortress of solitude was an even bigger highlight of a day that turned out to be full of them.)

We talked about a wide range of issues, all of which will appear in the magazine. But here's one that we'll share with you now, in the hopes that you'll choose to read the rest of them by buying the magazine (we're trying to come up with an effective subliminal message on that point so we won't have to continue to type that phrase).

The Pro Football Hall of Fame bases enshrinement on only one factor: on-field achievements and contributions to the game. The Commissioner disagrees with that approach.

"I do believe that it's more than just how you conduct yourself on the field," Goodell said. "I believe very firmly that it's how you conduct yourself on and off the field as a member of the National Football League. That's part of your contribution to the game."

Pete Fierle, the Manager of Digital Media and Communications at the Pro Football Hall of Fame, quoted to me via phone on Wednesday the applicable portion of the bylaws: "The only criteria for election to the Pro Football Hall of Fame are a nominee's achievements and contributions as a player, coach, or contributor in professional football in the United States of America." As a result, whether and to what extent a player, coach, or contributor has conducted himself (or, in theory, herself) in an illegal or otherwise unbecoming manner off the field currently has no bearing on whether the player, coach, or contributor will have a bronze bust in Canton.

"These are decisions the Hall of Fame is going to have to make, not me," Goodell said. "But if you ask me a specific question, 'Is it just their contributions on the field and their statistics?' I don't think that's the case. I think it's about what you contribute to the game of football."

Since I'm posing as a journalist on this one (for a change), I'll leave my own opinion out of it. (That said, it shouldn't be hard to figure out what my opinion would be.) For the magazine, we plan to harvest the opinions of every person who holds a Hall of Fame vote.

For now, Peter King of SI.com and NBC has shared his views on the subject. "I think it's a very slippery slope to judge character along with football," King said via e-mail. "I think it's certainly a bad idea to remove someone from the Hall for something he does after his career. You'll never convince me O.J. Simpson is not a Hall of Famer, for instance. As for judging players who screw up off the field during their careers, what's a serious offense and what's not? I see no reason to change the rules."

The Commissioner feels differently, and he was willing to say so. We'll have more on this in the PFT/NBC season preview magazine, which we hope you'll now feel compelled to buy.

(GODdell has gone mad. Who is this sanctimonious, holier than thou, lunatic think he is? Well this should bar Masha Brady from the hall of fame. After all he has at least one illegitimate child and if GODdell is going include off field behavior then having illegitimate children should be considered. Then again we all know that rules don't apply to the stinking Cheatriots. - mesa)

steelerdude15
05-21-2010, 10:26 AM
It already is, I wish US the fans would be able to vote them in.

Dino 6 Rings
05-21-2010, 10:39 AM
So does off the field conduct after the fact, years later get you PULLED from the Hall of Fame?

Taylor?

fansince'76
05-21-2010, 11:55 AM
It already is, I wish US the fans would be able to vote them in.

Not me. As flawed as the HoF voting process already is, it would become exponentially worse if the fans were allowed to vote. Fan voting is the primary reason the Pro Bowl has become such a joke.

So does off the field conduct after the fact, years later get you PULLED from the Hall of Fame?

Taylor?

Apparently so. Guess that means OJ (double murder), Michael Irvin (coke and hookers multiple times), Mel Blount (tax issues) and Jim Brown (serial woman beater) should all be removed (among others) as well. And if character really does matter all that much, then Belicheat shouldn't so much as sniff the HoF either due to Spygate. And applying the recent precedent set with Roethlisberger, actual guilt, or even a criminal charge, is not necessary.

zulater
05-21-2010, 12:10 PM
Not me. As flawed as the HoF voting process already is, it would become exponentially worse if the fans were allowed to vote. Fan voting is the primary reason the Pro Bowl has become such a joke.



Apparently so. Guess that means OJ (double murder), Michael Irvin (coke and hookers multiple times), Mel Blount (tax issues) and Jim Brown (serial woman beater) should all be removed (among others) as well. And if character really does matter all that much, then Belicheat shouldn't so much as sniff the HoF either due to Spygate. And applying the recent precedent set with Roethlisberger, actual guilt, or even a criminal charge, is not necessary.



I know the point you're trying to make, but please don't lump Blount in with that sort.

stlrtruck
05-21-2010, 03:49 PM
The commissioner needs to be worrying himself about how the NFL will continue past this season rather than who should or shouldn't be in the NFL HOF. Let the HOF take care of itself.

Personally, the HOF should be for what people did on the field of play, not outside the lines!

The man needs to remove himself from office before he destroys the very foundation of the league!

stillers4me
05-21-2010, 04:36 PM
The commissioner needs to be worrying himself about how the NFL will continue past this season rather than who should or shouldn't be in the NFL HOF. Let the HOF take care of itself.

Personally, the HOF should be for what people did on the field of play, not outside the lines!

The man needs to remove himself from office before he destroys the very foundation of the league!

He's under contract until 2015. :banging:

Vincent
05-21-2010, 04:41 PM
He's under contract until 2015. :banging:

And he is young enough that it'll be renewed for a lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllong time.

XxKnightxX
05-21-2010, 05:08 PM
This.......THING, this POS Hyppocrite is the damn anti christ of effing football I swear. Fing pansy favoritist boss who has gone on a power trip the moment he got into office. I can imagine how many people he screwed over before he even became the Commish. He is Scum and Ive always tried to keep my benefit of the doubt towards him but he should shove a carrot up his ass and take his ass home to Bellichicks basement and keep cleaning his pipes. GOD I cannot stand him. He is gonna be the reason why there will be a lockout in the NFL, not the owners, but because Demaurice Smith cannot stand his guts nor do the players and His actions shows he has no fair care of the players and owners. If i was a player and i saw he was on the sideleines man do I wish i could run a corner route and get 'pushed' so hard out of bounds and trip over a camera wire onto his knee and see him wince in pain. Especially in a HOF game where all the retired NFL vets are, esp the ones with disabilites screwed over by the league.

mesaSteeler
05-21-2010, 05:18 PM
He's under contract until 2015. :banging:

2015 huh? :banging: :banging::banging:

Next that self aggrandizing moralist will issue a ruling s that requires every NFL players to be a virgin or celibate except of course it they play for the Cheatriots.

revefsreleets
05-21-2010, 05:27 PM
That's fine.

Strip OJ and LT and we can talk.

polamalubeast
05-21-2010, 07:30 PM
Goodell suck:banging::mad:

It therefore means that Roethlisberger will go certainly not HOF.:banging:

SMR
05-31-2010, 10:48 AM
Wonder if this is even big enough to fit around his head?

http://i46.tinypic.com/s60t2s.jpg

steel striker
06-05-2010, 11:39 AM
Yeah and most people think the commish is out of control with his suspensions. It sure looks like he is on the pats payroll to me. I hope commish gets canned soon.