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lamberts-lost-tooth
05-26-2010, 10:00 AM
With Memorial Day coming up....I just wanted to rant about something that REALLY pisses me off.

Any politician who uses exaggeration or stright out lies about their military service to pretend they are patriots....is a POS.

What a slap in the face of those who have actually served...who have actually placed themselves in harms way...who have actually shed blood... or have been buried on foreign soil after paying the ultimate sacrifice for our country.

Sure, I understand why they do it. To some its apparently not enough to have worn a military uniform. They never felt the pride that comes with getting up every day knowing that you are serving your country and defending freedom. They may have "served", but they never understood that every soldier is part of the process. To serve is an honor unto itself.

However, when running for office, these prideless ass-hats think that everyone has the same opinion of the common soldier...that everyone else sees no honor in any soldier who was anything less than a combat Vet.

C'mon...everyone wants to vote for John Wayne...right?

WRONG!!!!

As a combat Vet I have a great deal of pride in what I did...but I have just as much pride and appreciation for the supply personnel...for the cooks...for the clerks...for all those who made it possible for our units to perform with efficiency. I appreciate those who remained state-side...standing in the gap while we were deployed elsewhere. To minimize or exaggerate your own role in... the National Guard...The Reserves...the support soldiers of our armed services... is to show a lack of respect to all veterans.

These clowns, like Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal, piss me off. Dont think for a second that he doesnt know the difference between serving "during" and serving "in" the Vietnam War. Dont think for a second that he wasnt playing a false patriotic card to further his political goals. Dont think for a second that while he claims "pride" in his service...it wasnt exactly the opposite,in a lack of pride in the armed services and in his role, that made him LIE about the extent of his involvement.

Memorial Day is a day for us to remember and honor those who have served.....Politicians like Richard Blumenthal...tarnish that memory by associating lies with service.

'nuff said
:salute::usa::salute:

Vincent
05-26-2010, 01:21 PM
First, to LLT and all the combat Veterans at SF, :salute: and my humble thank you!!

Re the OP, if its any consolation, it'll cost blumen@#$% the election and the donkeys a valuable senate seat.

Everyone please note that the Kenyan interloper has "elected" to pass on his duty to lay a wreath at Arlington in order to chill in Chicago. Words cannot express the contempt I have for that individual.

SteelersinCA
05-26-2010, 01:48 PM
I had a Marine client that lied to me about serving in Iraq, I promptly informed him that as a veteran I cannot tolerate when people lie about their service and he should consider finding a new lawyer.

devilsdancefloor
05-26-2010, 01:52 PM
It is the
VETERAN,
not the preacher,
who has given us freedom of religion.

It is
the VETERAN,
not the reporter,
who has given us freedom of the press.

It is
the VETERAN,
not the poet,
who has given us freedom of speech.

It is
the VETERAN,
not the campus organizer,
who has given us freedom to assemble.

It is
the VETERAN,
not the lawyer,
who has given us the right to a fair trial.

It is
the VETERAN,
not the politician,
Who has given us the right to vote.

revefsreleets
05-26-2010, 01:56 PM
Just as an aside, Presidents generally visit Arlington on Memorial Day.

Obama is taking a vacation in Chicago....

lamberts-lost-tooth
05-26-2010, 01:58 PM
I had a Marine client that lied to me about serving in Iraq, I promptly informed him that as a veteran I cannot tolerate when people lie about their service and he should consider finding a new lawyer.

:thumbsup:

Vincent
05-26-2010, 02:17 PM
Just as an aside, Presidents generally visit Arlington on Memorial Day.

Obama is taking a vacation in Chicago....

Apparently I'm "on ignore".

revefsreleets
05-26-2010, 03:17 PM
Apparently I'm "on ignore".

Ooops...sorry.

stlrtruck
05-26-2010, 03:44 PM
To all the men and women who served and are serving now, I offer you my gratitude for the sacrifices you've made and are going to make.

May God Bless you all!

As for the POTUS skipping Arlington, that's probably a better thing in the long run. He's already made it a point to apologize to lesser nations because of the things our soldiers have fought to secure for America. So why should he disgrace Arlington cemetery with his presence!

steelerdude15
05-26-2010, 05:40 PM
Yes, thank you for every single woman and man who has served for this great country. :usa: I also wish all of them a great holiday. :thumbsup:

stlrtruck
05-27-2010, 11:51 AM
Received the following in an email today:

Six Boys And Thirteen Hands...

Each year I am hired to go to Washington , DC , with the eighth grade class from Clinton, WI , where I grew up, to videotape their trip. I greatly enjoy visiting our nation's capitol, and each year I take some special memories back with me. This fall's trip was especially memorable.

On the last night of our trip, we stopped at the Iwo Jima memorial. This memorial is the largest bronze statue in the world and depicts one of the most famous photographs in history -- that of the six brave soldiers raising the American Flag at the top of a rocky hill on the island of Iwo Jima , Japan , during WW II.

Over one hundred students and chaperones piled off the buses and headed towards the memorial. I noticed a solitary figure at the base of the statue, and as I got closer he asked, 'Where are you guys from?'

I told him that we were from Wisconsin ...'Hey, I'm a cheese head, too! Come gather around, Cheese heads, and I will tell you a story.'

(James Bradley just happened to be in Washington, DC, to speak at the memorial the following day. He was there that night to say good night to his dad, who had passed away. He was just about to leave when he saw the buses pull up.. I videotaped him as he spoke to us, and received his permission to share what he said from my videotape. It is one thing to tour the incredible monuments filled with history in Washington , DC , but it is quite another to get the kind of insight we received that night.)

When all had gathered around, he reverently began to speak. (Here are his words that night.)

'My name is James Bradley and I'm from Antigo, Wisconsin ... My dad is on that statue, and I just wrote a book called 'Flags of Our Fathers' which is #5 on the New York Times Best Seller list right now. It is the story of the six boys you see behind me.

'Six boys raised the flag. The first guy putting the pole in the ground is Harlon Block. Harlon was an all-state football player. He enlisted in the Marine Corps with all the senior members of his football team. They were off to play another type of game. A game called 'War.' But it didn't turn out to be a game. Harlon, at the age of 21, died with his intestines in his hands. I don't say that to gross you out, I say that because there are people who stand in front of this statue and talk about the glory of war. You guys need to know that most of the boys in Iwo Jima were 17, 18, and 19 years old - and it was so hard that the ones who did make it home never even would talk to their families about it.

(He pointed to the statue) 'You see this next guy? That's Rene Gagnon from New Hampshire . If you took Rene's helmet off at the moment this photo was taken and looked in the webbing of that helmet, you would find a photograph...a photograph of his girlfriend. Rene put that in there for protection because he was scared. He was 18 years old. It was just boys who won the battle of Iwo Jima ... Boys. Not old men.

'The next guy here, the third guy in this tableau, was Sergeant Mike Strank. Mike is my hero. He was the hero of all these guys. They called him the 'old man' because he was so old. He was already 24. When Mike would motivate his boys in training camp, he didn't say, 'Let's go kill some Japanese' or 'Let's die for our country.' He knew he was talking to little boys. Instead he would say, 'You do what I say, and I'll get you home to your mothers.'

'The last guy on this side of the statue is Ira Hayes, a Pima Indian from Arizona...Ira Hayes was one who walked off Iwo Jima...He went into the White House with my dad. President Truman told him, 'You're a hero'. He told reporters, 'How can I feel like a hero when 250 of my buddies hit the island with me and only 27 of us walked off alive?'


So you take your class at school, 250 of you spending a year together having fun, doing everything together. Then all 250 of you hit the beach, but only 27 of your classmates walk off alive. That was Ira Hayes. He had images of horror in his mind. Ira Hayes carried the pain home with him and eventually died dead drunk, face down at the age of 32 (ten years after this picture was taken).

'The next guy, going around the statue, is Franklin Sousley from Hilltop, Kentucky . A fun-lovin' hillbilly boy. His best friend, who is now 70, told me, 'Yeah, you know, we took two cows up on the porch of the Hilltop General Store. Then we strung wire across the stairs so the cows couldn't get down. Then we fed them Epsom salts. Those cows crapped all night.' Yes, he was a fun-lovin' hillbilly boy. Franklin died on Iwo Jima at the age of 19. When the telegram came to tell his mother that he was dead, it went to the Hilltop General Store. A barefoot boy ran that telegram up to his mother's farm. The neighbors could hear her scream all night and into the morning. Those neighbors lived a quarter of a mile away.

'The next guy, as we continue to go around the statue, is my dad, John Bradley, from Antigo, Wisconsin , where I was raised. My dad lived until 1994, but he would never give interviews. When Walter Cronkite's producers or the New York Times would call, we were trained as little kids to say 'No, I'm sorry, sir, my dad's not here. He is in Canada fishing. No, there is no phone there, sir. No, we don't know when he is coming back.' My dad never fished or even went to Canada . Usually, he was sitting there right at the table eating his Campbell 's soup. But we had to tell the press that he was out fishing. He didn't want to talk to the press.

'You see, like Ira Hayes, my dad didn't see himself as a hero. Everyone thinks these guys are heroes, 'cause they are in a photo and on a monument. My dad knew better. He was a medic. John Bradley from Wisconsin was a caregiver. In Iwo Jima he probably held over 200 boys as they died. And when boys died in Iwo Jima , they writhed and screamed, without any medication or help with the pain.


'When I was a little boy, my third grade teacher told me that my dad was a hero. When I went home and told my dad that, he looked at me and said, 'I want you always to remember that the heroes of Iwo Jima are the guys who did not come back. Did NOT come back.'

'So that's the story about six nice young boys. Three died on Iwo Jima , and three came back as national heroes. Overall, 7,000 boys died on Iwo Jima in the worst battle in the history of the Marine Corps. My voice is giving out, so I will end here. Thank you for your time.'

Suddenly, the monument wasn't just a big old piece of metal with a flag sticking out of the top. It came to life before our eyes with the heartfelt words of a son who did indeed have a father who was a hero. Maybe not a hero for the reasons most people would believe, but a hero nonetheless.


We need to remember that God created this vast and glorious world for us to live in, freely, but also at great sacrifice.
Let us never forget from the Revolutionary War to the current War on Terrorism and all the wars in-between that sacrifice was made for our freedom.


Remember to pray praises for this great country of ours and also pray for those still in murderous unrest around the world.
STOP and thank God for being alive and being free at someone else's sacrifice.


God Bless You and God Bless America ...

REMINDER: Everyday that you can wake up free, it's going to be a great day.

One thing I learned while on tour with my 8th grade students in DC that is not mentioned here is...that if you look at the statue very closely and count the number of 'hands' raising the flag, there are 13. When the man who made the statue was asked why there were 13, he simply said the 13th hand was the hand of God.

Great story - worth your time - worth every American's time.

xfl2001fan
05-27-2010, 03:18 PM
I had a Marine client that lied to me about serving in Iraq, I promptly informed him that as a veteran I cannot tolerate when people lie about their service and he should consider finding a new lawyer.

:salute: You gotta quit that crap, you are giving sleazy lawyers a bad name. :P

stlrtruck
05-27-2010, 06:24 PM
It's an older video, but Ollie North tells the stories great:

http://www.nragive.com/ringoffreedom/index.HTML

SteelersinCA
05-27-2010, 06:27 PM
:salute: You gotta quit that crap, you are giving sleazy lawyers a bad name. :P

You know me....

tony hipchest
05-31-2010, 05:54 PM
Just as an aside, Presidents generally visit Arlington on Memorial Day.

Obama is taking a vacation in Chicago....


why dont you finally learn how to read, dumbass?

Ooops...sorry.


thread hijack = fail.

the president memorialized and laid a wreath at abraham lincoln national cemetary in chicago today (which is probably more than youve ever done in your entire life).

there are more veterans than just those buried in DC who deserve to be honored. of course i guess a wannabe politicosavant like you thinks the whole world revolves around washington.

i, for one, always take a walk up to the allegheny and say a prayer at the veterans section for all of the fallen, everytime i visit pittsburgh. their lives and memories are just as valuable as anyone elses, regardless of where they are buried.

go crash another thread with your partisan hackery, dipshit. :doh:

Godfather
05-31-2010, 06:33 PM
:salute: You gotta quit that crap, you are giving sleazy lawyers a bad name. :P

Don't you mean he's giving lawyers a good name?

Venom
05-31-2010, 07:24 PM
Two words for our troops, past and present........Thank you !