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SteelKnight
08-24-2010, 01:49 PM
It's been so long that we've tried Colon at guard. Maybe he would be an awesome R guard. Sucky tackes like Foster and Essex have already shown they can play guard better.

Although this won't matter this year, it is important for building a future O-line.

Still...I hope by some miricle we can acquire Mike Pouncey for R guard. It wouuld be great for chemistry. Will he be available at the 32nd pick after we in te SB is the question. We may need to trade up for him.

If not, I think we should give Colon another shot at RT.

SteelKnight
08-24-2010, 01:52 PM
Same with Flozelle...though he may be insulted...lol His problem is speedy edge rushers. No edge rushers to deal with if he plays guard. Flozelle might be a probowl R guard. lol

pete74
08-24-2010, 02:36 PM
I always said I think Colon would be a probowl guard

SteelKnight
08-24-2010, 03:11 PM
Exactly. I was actually hoping we would land a good RT in the past draft so we could start him and move Colon to guard but that didn't happen. Like you said, we would of killed two birds with one stone.

Both our guards are mediocre at best. Everyone seems to love Kemo but he gives up more sacks then anyone.

The 2011 draft were going to have to really build up both our lines(offensive and defense).


I always said I think Colon would be a probowl guard

Yeah...why not? We haven't let him try out for guard since we had Simmons. There has never been anyone good enough to take his tackle spot so we could never try him at another position. Since he is familiar with the R side and knows the tackle and guard assignments, it might be a smooth transition. Tony Mandarich was a terrible tackle but a really good guard.

The reason it's important is we need to know who we have to go out and get next year.

There is no way we will be bad enough to get a top tackle so we should invest a lot on the best available free agent tackle to play R tackle and if colon can play R guard and be good, that would solve 3 position on the O-line without us even making our draft pick. Maybe we should then pick the top guard ...move up if we need to to compete with Kemo (and possibly Colon).

LT Starks
LG # 1 Draft pick 2011 (Maybe Mike Pouncey)
C Pouncey
RG Colon
RT Best free agent RT...just pay the highest for once.

Fire Arians
08-24-2010, 04:42 PM
Yeah...why not? We haven't let him try out for guard since we had Simmons. There has never been anyone good enough to take his tackle spot so we could never try him at another position. Since he is familiar with the R side and knows the tackle and guard assignments, it might be a smooth transition. Tony Mandarich was a terrible tackle but a really good guard.

The reason it's important is we need to know who we have to go out and get next year.

There is no way we will be bad enough to get a top tackle so we should invest a lot on the best available free agent tackle to play R tackle and if colon can play R guard and be good, that would solve 3 position on the O-line without us even making our draft pick. Maybe we should then pick the top guard ...move up if we need to to compete with Kemo (and possibly Colon).

LT Starks
LG # 1 Draft pick 2011 (Maybe Mike Pouncey)
C Pouncey
RG Colon
RT Best free agent RT...just pay the highest for once.

I hope we don't get Mike. Reason being is I think he may be a high pick. If we get him, that means we sucked this year

SteelKnight
08-24-2010, 05:29 PM
I hope we don't get Mike. Reason being is I think he may be a high pick. If we get him, that means we sucked this year

I hope he falls to the 20s and we move up.

Tone's Toes
08-24-2010, 10:37 PM
Nothing wrong with Colon at tackle. He takes too many penalties but the rest of his game is very solid. Steeler fans are way off base with Colon. He's a much better player/tackle than they realize.

wootawnee
08-24-2010, 11:10 PM
Colon would be a stud at guard........But who can play r tackle on the roster better than him?.......We need a top tackle draft pick.....

SteelKnight
08-26-2010, 09:41 PM
Colon would be a stud at guard........But who can play r tackle on the roster better than him?.......We need a top tackle draft pick.....

That's what I'm saying. if this line really sucks, we could draft the top guard with our first pick to compete with Kemo.

For RT, we should...shocker...PAY for a free agent and if Colon can move to RG, we would have solid linemen in 1 year.

Riddle_Of_Steel
08-26-2010, 11:42 PM
Nothing wrong with Colon at tackle. He takes too many penalties but the rest of his game is very solid. Steeler fans are way off base with Colon. He's a much better player/tackle than they realize.

Exactly-- the guy gets slandered non-stop on every Steelers forum I visit, but the numbers clearly show, he is one of the top 5 tackles in the NFL. We could do well without all his neutral zone infractions though-- those get kinda old, and should be the very first thing any Olineman masters.

With all the personnel issues we had this offseason, I think the media made a mountain out of a molehill on all of them, except the loss of Colon. I think that was our most significant loss-- not Holmes.

I recall some of the hellish drills we did in high school to break us of those bad habits that lead to neutral zone infractions (and not just excusable stuff like jumping offsides, but stupid stuff like not lining up properly)....

pancake
08-27-2010, 12:49 AM
I think next years draft we take the best OL available. If its a RT then move colon to guard and if its a guard then keep Colon at RT.

SteelKnight
08-27-2010, 01:38 PM
Exactly-- the guy gets slandered non-stop on every Steelers forum I visit, but the numbers clearly show, he is one of the top 5 tackles in the NFL. We could do well without all his neutral zone infractions though-- those get kinda old, and should be the very first thing any Olineman masters.

With all the personnel issues we had this offseason, I think the media made a mountain out of a molehill on all of them, except the loss of Colon. I think that was our most significant loss-- not Holmes.

I recall some of the hellish drills we did in high school to break us of those bad habits that lead to neutral zone infractions (and not just excusable stuff like jumping offsides, but stupid stuff like not lining up properly)....

It seems to me like everyone wants to love Colon now that he's gone. When he was here, everyone hated him. Now the media wants to call him out best etc.

If he had a great year last year, fine. I remember 2008 and he sucked. It is possible I missed the fact tat he had a good year behind the Steelers terrible year. The line seems to be run blocking better now with Adams. It is just the pass blocking that is the issue.

SteelKnight
08-27-2010, 01:48 PM
I think next years draft we take the best OL available. If its a RT then move colon to guard and if its a guard then keep Colon at RT.

Sometimes, by the time you get to late, all the quality OTs are gone. There are usually maybe 4-5 good ones each draft. Even for RT, you are better off picking up one of the top ones who didn't play LT his whole college career but maybe finished at LT and moving him to RT. The reason he finished at LT was because he was so good. Picking a player who played RT all 4 years in the first round is a mistake. If he was so talented, the team would have moved him to LT. If you can find one of those guys in round 3, fine.

On the other hand, it IS possible to find one of the best guards late in the first round...we may have to move up a little but usually somewhere early 20s to late 20s the best guard is picked (last year was unusual with Iupati). If it turns out that there are 2 with close grade, that is what makes the players drop (nobody trading up for them because they know if one is picked the other is available).

We'll see.