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tony hipchest
08-28-2010, 02:23 PM
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2010/08/10-things-to-look-for-sunday-versus-denver-in-preseason-game-3/

Is There A Long Snapping Battle? - Out of nowhere the Steelers re-signed Matt Stewart last week. Stewart was with the Steelers prior to training camp and also has spent time working at linebacker in the NFL. Mike Tomlin said Friday that Stewart will get an in-game look against Denver as a long snapper and was brought in as competition and to push Greg Warren.

this is noteworthy because the last 2 times we brought in and played anew long snapper we won the superbowl.

in preseason 2005 rookie greg warren was brought in to replace mike schneck in a cap saving move.

in 2008 greg warren was injured in tthe early season giants game and was replaced with udfa street free agent jarod retkofsky.

:thumbsup:

SteelKnight
08-28-2010, 03:19 PM
nice read

SteelKnight
08-28-2010, 03:20 PM
I'm still annoyed that neither Sanders nor Brown got a chance to study and play the Y (slot). ARE was awarded the spot with no competition.

SteelCityMom
08-28-2010, 03:28 PM
Interesting indeed. It's not everyday you hear about a longsnapper battle though lol.

If he's better than I guess keep him around!

tony hipchest
08-28-2010, 03:45 PM
I'm still annoyed that neither Sanders nor Brown got a chance to study and play the Y (slot). ARE was awarded the spot with no competition.actually tomlin addressed this. both rookies have done well in picking up the #3 we assignments.

he is having sanders learn all 3 spots to possibly get him on the field quicker. not only do they want him to be the potential #3 but if ward gets hurt, he is the primary back up there as well.

Tomlin: "[Denver] has a strong safety #20 that'll prob be somewhere around the line of scrimmage, and we're going to get to know E Sanders"
12:52 PM Aug 26th via web
Reply Retweet . Arians on Sanders: "He's shown a physicality in his blocking that's really been impressive" Tomlin says "big week this week" for him
12:51 PM Aug 26th via web
Reply Retweet . WR Emmanuel Sanders switching position this week to flanker this week (from split end), team wants to see if he can handle two positions

https://twitter.com/Ken_Laird

truesteelerfan
08-29-2010, 12:19 AM
So how did our P do on kickoffs last week? I didn't see the game?

MattsMe
08-29-2010, 12:49 AM
So how did our P do on kickoffs last week? I didn't see the game?

As far as hang times, about the same as Reed. I say we stick with him for now.

SteelKnight
08-29-2010, 12:59 AM
Interesting indeed. It's not everyday you hear about a longsnapper battle though lol.

If he's better than I guess keep him around!

Probably PS for that guy.

SteelKnight
08-29-2010, 01:07 AM
actually tomlin addressed this. both rookies have done well in picking up the #3 we assignments.

he is having sanders learn all 3 spots to possibly get him on the field quicker. not only do they want him to be the potential #3 but if ward gets hurt, he is the primary back up there as well.



https://twitter.com/Ken_Laird

When did Tomlin adress this? Do you have a link? I've been waiting and waiting to hear about the #3 position.

I don't mind Sanders learning a 3rd position as long as it doesn't slow him down in learning the other 2.

I think it's retarded. Sanders played slot and flanker in college so when he got here, two great positions would have been slot and flanker. Fine with SE. I don't care. I actually think ARE would do a good job backing up Ward as Flanker ...slow and steady. That should be his role.

In recent years, we've always had two fast guys out there. First with Holmes and Nate then Holmes and Wallace. ARE is a drop down in speed. Let's make the fast guys Wallace and Sanders.

steeltheone
08-29-2010, 01:32 AM
Tomlin Plays vets ...Plain and simple...If not for front office pressure to get rookies developed faster....., i'll bet Pouncey would not be thrust into action either...

MasterOfPuppets
08-29-2010, 01:37 AM
When did Tomlin adress this? Do you have a link? I've been waiting and waiting to hear about the #3 position.

I don't mind Sanders learning a 3rd position as long as it doesn't slow him down in learning the other 2.

I think it's retarded. Sanders played slot and flanker in college so when he got here, two great positions would have been slot and flanker. Fine with SE. I don't care. I actually think ARE would do a good job backing up Ward as Flanker ...slow and steady. That should be his role.

In recent years, we've always had two fast guys out there. First with Holmes and Nate then Holmes and Wallace. ARE is a drop down in speed. Let's make the fast guys Wallace and Sanders.

This is how it works at wide receiver:

Hines Ward, a receiver in the National Football League for the past 12 seasons, said Mike Wallace has to learn how to slow down.

But the coaches want Emmanuel Sanders and Antonio Brown, a pair of elusive rookie receivers, to learn how to play faster.

That, though, might become increasingly more difficult when the Steelers play their third preseason game Sunday night in Denver.

Sanders, a third-round draft choice, and Brown, a sixth-round pick, will swap positions against the Broncos in an attempt by coach Mike Tomlin to throw more of the playbook at the two rookies.

Tomlin called it "a big week" for Sanders, who will move from split end -- the only position he has played since the start of training camp -- to flanker. Curiously, Sanders was an inside receiver at SMU when he set numerous school records for catches and receiving yards and touchdown receptions.

The move will only enhance his opportunity to be the Steelers' fourth receiver when the regular season begins. But it also is likely to slow his ability to perform because he will be adjusting to a new position.

"The [flanker] is more complex because you have to know the motions and protections, and the blocking is even harder because now I'm blocking defensive ends sometimes," Sanders said. "But when they called passing plays, it's the same as the [split end], the same concepts.

"I think in the slot you have to read more because you're reading the top half of the coverage and the safeties. On the outside, you're reading the cornerbacks more. I like the slot. That's where the ball is."

But flanker -- known as the Z position -- is also where the action is. That's the position Ward has elevated to an art form with his blocking. And that's what Tomlin said he wants to see from Sanders.

"The X is more of a catch-and-run position," Tomlin said about split end, which is known as the X position. "The Z is more of a combative situation in the running game and with safeties. Emmanuel Sanders has proved to be surprisingly physical and aggressive."

But it not just a big week for Sanders.

It is for Brown, too, and not just because he will move from flanker to split end against the Broncos. He will be given another chance to wrest the job as return specialist away from Stefan Logan because Tomlin said Brown will return punts and kickoffs for the second consecutive game.

"We're excited about Antonio Brown returning punts and kickoffs," Tomlin said Friday at a news conference. "And we've developed some schemes that will hopefully highlight his skill set."

The Steelers are set with their top three receivers -- Ward, Wallace and the returning newcomer, Antwaan Randle El, who was brought back in free agency. Sanders, who had three catches for 51 yards against the Giants, appears set as No. 4. And another roster spot is expected to be held by veteran Arnaz Battle, who also was signed in free agency, primarily because of his outstanding play on special teams.

One way or another, it appears the Steelers will keep six receivers.

The question remains: Is it Brown or Logan?

Brown would be the preferred choice because he actually is a wide receiver. Logan is listed as a wide receiver, but would only play the position in an emergency.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10240/1083365-66.stm?cmpid=steelers.xml&source=rss_teams_Pittsburgh_Steelers#ixzz0xwAB6pGj

MasterOfPuppets
08-29-2010, 01:39 AM
Sanders unfazed by move to flanker

Too small.

Product of a pass-happy offense.

Steelers wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders heard the reasons why he wouldn't succeed in the NFL prior to the 2010 draft.

"I've been an underdog my whole life," the Steelers' third-round draft pick said. "I fed off of it."

If Sanders sounds like a certain wideout who has used the perceived underdog status to drive him, the Steelers will see if he can also play like Hines Ward today in Denver.

Sanders will line up at flanker, Ward's position, against the Broncos after playing primarily at split end.

The Steelers want him to learn both positions. They also made the switch because they have been pleasantly surprised with Sanders' blocking.

They'll get a better read on how well he can handle the grunt work that comes with playing flanker during the 8 p.m. game.

"We want to see if potentially he can block a guy the caliber of (Broncos safety) Brian Dawkins, who is going to be around or on the line of scrimmage," Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said. "That's a daunting task for a young guy."

Sanders is undaunted about moving to flanker. The 5-foot-11, 180-pounder played the position at SMU, where set most of the school's receiving records.

If he shows the Steelers he can play flanker as well as split end at this level, it will only help him get on the field faster.

"That makes me more flexible," Sanders said. "If anything happens, I can go to any position."

tony hipchest
08-29-2010, 02:10 AM
When did Tomlin adress this? Do you have a link? I've been waiting and waiting to hear about the #3 position.

I don't mind Sanders learning a 3rd position as long as it doesn't slow him down in learning the other 2.

I think it's retarded. Sanders played slot and flanker in college so when he got here, two great positions would have been slot and flanker. Fine with SE. I don't care. I actually think ARE would do a good job backing up Ward as Flanker ...slow and steady. That should be his role.

In recent years, we've always had two fast guys out there. First with Holmes and Nate then Holmes and Wallace. ARE is a drop down in speed. Let's make the fast guys Wallace and Sanders.well, i already provided a link (one that you quoted) but mike tomlin holds a press conference every week.

http://www.steelers.com/video-and-audio/videos/Mike-Tomlin---Preseason---August-27/4b5aff33-50a8-4017-af9e-96e49a76527f

like he says, its time for e. sanders to put his 'big boy" pads on.

SteelKnight
08-29-2010, 11:32 AM
This is how it works at wide receiver:

Hines Ward, a receiver in the National Football League for the past 12 seasons, said Mike Wallace has to learn how to slow down.

But the coaches want Emmanuel Sanders and Antonio Brown, a pair of elusive rookie receivers, to learn how to play faster.

That, though, might become increasingly...

Why did you cut and paste that? I've read that before and it says nothing about the "Y" position...the slot.

I've heard a lot about them changing positions. I think ARE would be a fine choice to fill in for Ward. He runs crisp routes and he is slow. Sure the blocking would suffer and he might not get separration but its fine.

What I think is NOT fine is slowing down the slot by putting ARE there. Maybe what they could do is have Wallace play SE then when they go to 3 WR packages, they can put ARE there and let Wallace keep his deep routes by playing the slot. ARE can do those kind of crossing routes that Holmes used to do.

SteelKnight
08-29-2010, 11:37 AM
well, i already provided a link (one that you quoted) but mike tomlin holds a press conference every week.

http://www.steelers.com/video-and-audio/videos/Mike-Tomlin---Preseason---August-27/4b5aff33-50a8-4017-af9e-96e49a76527f

like he says, its time for e. sanders to put his 'big boy" pads on.

I remember watching that and I don't remember the slot (Y) position being discussed. If I'm wrong please let me know.

I want to know about competition for the #3 spot which will be the slot ...not back up X and Z positions.

SteelKnight
08-29-2010, 11:55 AM
Tomlin Plays vets ...Plain and simple...If not for front office pressure to get rookies developed faster....., i'll bet Pouncey would not be thrust into action either...

That might be true.

He doesn't always seem to give a chance. I know we don't see everything but...

How do we know how Hood would do in Keisel's spot unless he ever gets to play with the first team? Sure.

How do we know how Sanders would do in the slot on the first team?

We are gonna see the Keenan Lewis thing today. I hope he's good because I'm no fan of Gay. Gay needs to play the dime. For the nickel, I still want 3 good CBs out there. Both Cinci and Baltimore will have good 3WR sets out there. Remember Wallace said Lewis gives him the hardest time over Ike and BMac? lol

steeltheone
08-29-2010, 11:59 AM
That might be true.

He doesn't always seem to give a chance. I know we don't see everything but...

How do we know how Hood would do in Keisel's spot unless he ever gets to play with the first team? Sure.

How do we know how Sanders would do in the slot on the first team?

We are gonna see the Keenan Lewis thing today. I hope he's good because I'm no fan of Gay. Gay needs to play the dime. For the nickel, I still want 3 good CBs out there. Both Cinci and Baltimore will have good 3WR sets out there. Remember Wallace said Lewis gives him the hardest time over Ike and BMac? lol

I agree totally about Hood. If it were not for Smiths injury, Hood would still be rotting on the bench. Gotta get these young fast guys in game conditions..