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Suitanim
03-06-2006, 05:04 PM
These are always fun.

Criteria: - Guitarists are ranked for their impact, influence, creativity, versatility,
originality, technical skill and lasting popularity in the genre of Rock guitar.

So this isn't just all about who can shred riffs the fastest or whatever.

Remember, too, for you young dudes, that making fun of or disrespecting us older dudes ain't cool. Jimi Hendrix is not as talented a guitarist as Yngwie Malmsteem but Yngwie also didn't pioneer much, and his songwriting mix of classical and metal wasn't anything new. It all balances out. A great example of this is the guy right behind Yngwie, Phil Keagy. He's a Christian rocker now, but much of what Eddie VanHalen did in the late 70's early 80's was ripped straight off of this dude. Anyway, here's the list.

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_newguitar.html




1. Jimi Hendrix* - Jimi Hendrix Experience
2. Eric Clapton - Yardbirds, Cream, Derek & The Dominos, Solo
3. Jimmy Page - Yardbirds, Led Zeppelin, The Firm
4. Jeff Beck - Yardbirds, Jeff Beck Group, Solo
5. Eddie Van Halen - Van Halen
6. Stevie Ray Vaughan* - Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble
7. Joe Satriani - Solo
8. Ritchie Blackmore - Deep Purple, Rainbow, Blackmores Night
9. Steve Vai - David Lee Roth, Whitesnake, Solo
10. David Gilmour - Pink Floyd, Solo
11. John Petrucci - Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Experiment
12. Randy Rhoads* - Quiet Riot, Ozzy
13. Allan Holdsworth - Solo
14. Paul Gilbert - Mr. Big, Racer X, Solo
15. Yngwie Malmsteen - Rising Force, Solo
16. Phil Keaggy - Glass Harp, Solo
17. Jason Becker - Cacophony, David Lee Roth Band, Solo
18. John Mclaughlin- Mahavishnu Orchestra
19. Duane Allman* - Allman Brothers Band, Derek & the Dominos
20. Chuck Berry - Solo
21. Eric Johnson - Solo
22. Steve Howe - Yes, Solo
23. Neal Schon - Santana, Journey, Solo
24. Brian May - Queen
25. Gary Moore - Thin Lizzy, Colosseum II, Skid Row, Solo
26. Bo Diddley - Solo
27. Steve Morse - Deep Purple, Dixie Dregs, Steve Morse Band, Solo
28. Carlos Santana - Santana
29. Tony Iommi - Black Sabbath
30. Buckethead - Guns N' Roses, Solo
31. Mark Knopfler - Dire Straits, Solo
32. Marty Friedman - Cacophony, Megadeth, Solo
33. Nuno Bettencourt - Extreme, Mourning Widows
34. Shawn Lane* - Willy, Solo
35. Kirk Hammett - Metallica
36. Uli Jon Roth - Scorpions
37. Terry Kath* - Chicago Transit Authority
38. Alex Lifeson - Rush
39. Frank Zappa* - Mothers of Invention, Solo
40. Rory Gallagher* - Solo
41. Dimebag Darrell* - Pantera
42. Peter Green - Fleetwood Mac, Solo
43. Robin Trower - Procal Harum, Solo
44. Slash - Guns N' Roses, Velvet Revolver
45. Mick Taylor - John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, Rolling Stones
46. Robert Fripp - King Crimson
47. Tom Morello - Rage Against the Machine, Audioslave
48. Michael Schenker - Scorpions, UFO, MSG, Contraband
49. Ry Cooder - Solo
50. Angus Young - AC/DC
51. Keith Richards - Rolling Stones, Solo
52. Michael Angelo Batio - Nitro, Solo
53. John Squire - Stone Roses
54. Pete Townshend - The Who
55. Steve Hackett - Genisis
56. Zakk Wylde - Ozzy Osbourne, Black Label Society
57. George Harrison* - Beatles, Traveling Wilberys, Solo
58. Alvin Lee - Ten Years After
59. Dave Davies - Kinks
60. Jerry Cantrell - Alice In Chains, Solo
61. Steve Stevens - Billy Idol
62. Johnny Winter - Solo
63. ****ie Betts - Allman Brothers Band, ****ey Betts & Great Southern
64. John Cipollina* - Quicksilver Messenger Service
65. Kenny Wayne Shepherd - Kenny Wayne Shepherd Band
66. Steve Cropper - Booker T. & MG's/Stax sessions
67. Adrian Belew - King Crimson
68. Joe Bonamassa - Solo
69. Steve Lukather - Toto, Solo
70. Jerry Garcia* - Grateful Dead
71. Joe Perry - Aerosmith
72. Prince - Prince & The Revolution
73. Kim Mitchell - Max Webster, Solo
74. Adrian Smith - Iron Maiden
75. Dave Murray - Iron Maiden
76. Neil Young - Buffalo Springfield, CSNY, Solo
77. Billy Gibbons - ZZ Top
78. Tony MacAlpine - Solo
79. Mike McCready - Pearl Jam
80. Adam Jones - Tool
81. Gary Hoey - Solo
82. Leslie West - Mountain, Solo
83. Peter Frampton - Humble Pie, Frampton's Camel, Solo
84. **** Dale - Del-Tones
85. Vito Bratta - White Lion
86. Mickey "Guitar" Baker - 50's sessions/ Mickey & Sylvia
87. John Frusciante - Red Hot Chili Peppers
88. Ronnie Montrose - Montrose, Edgar Winter Group
89. Mick Ronson* - David Bowie, Solo
90. Roy Buchanan* - Solo
91. Warren Haynes - Allman Brothers Band, Gov't Mule
92. Vinnie Moore - Alice Cooper, Solo
93. Robbie Krieger - Doors, Solo
94. Chris DeGarmo - Queensryche
95. Jake E. Lee - Cutting Crew, Ozzy, Badlands, Solo
96. Glen Tipton - Judas Priest
97. Joe Walsh - James Gang, Eagles, Solo
98. K.K. Downing - Judas Priest
99. Eddie Hazel* - Funkadelic
100. Alex Skolnick - Testamentical skill and lasting popularity in the genre of Rock guitar.

augustashark
03-06-2006, 05:18 PM
[QUOTE=Suitanim]These are always fun. [B]
COLOR=Black]So this isn't just all about who can shred riffs the fastest or whatever.

Remember, too, for you young dudes, that making fun of or disrespecting us older dudes ain't cool. Jimi Hendrix is not as talented a guitarist as Yngwie Malmsteem but Yngwie also didn't pioneer much, and his songwriting mix of classical and metal wasn't anything new. It all balances out. A great example of this is the guy right behind Yngwie, Phil Keagy. He's a Christian rocker now, but much of what Eddie VanHalen did in the late 70's early 80's was ripped straight off of this dude. Anyway, here's the list.

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_newguitar.html
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Hmmmmmmmm, wonder which one I think is the best!:sofunny:

83-Steelers-43
03-06-2006, 05:19 PM
Personally, I would put Clapton at number one.

tony hipchest
03-06-2006, 05:47 PM
this list is automatically flawed by not having les paul ANYWHERE.

although not as influential or well known, i would put joe satriani #1. i think surfing with the alien is a masterpiece.

very suprised slayers guitarist (kerry king?) isnt in there (very good and influential) and there about 10 other thrash/speed metal who could play any type of music if they so desired. and could play the pants off atleast 10 in the list.

funny to see deep purple guitarist ahead of kirk hamett. i saw k. hamett do a 30 minute solo when they toured by themselves in 92 and it was absolutely amazing. smoke on the water is pretty much the easiest and 1st rock song people play when learning the guitar.

i like the placement of steve vai in the top 10.

NO LES PAUL!!!!!!??????? thats like producers of las vegas light shows saying edison wasnt great or influencial.

augustashark
03-06-2006, 06:01 PM
I've studied this list and have some problems with it myself. First, Angus Young-50! Come on, for the entire decade of the 70's he was as big as anyone! Also D*ck Dale at 84, see I think the age thing came into play here. D*ck Dale could play as good as anyone on this list, hands down!

Hammett at 35, come on people. This guy can riff with anyone. He is the best! Well, maybe I'm biased!

Suitanim
03-06-2006, 06:03 PM
Remember:

Criteria: - Guitarists are ranked for their impact, influence, creativity, versatility,
originality, technical skill and lasting popularity in the genre of Rock guitar.

So this isn't just all about who can shred riffs the fastest or whatever.

augustashark
03-06-2006, 06:11 PM
Remember:

Criteria: - Guitarists are ranked for their impact, influence, creativity, versatility,
originality, technical skill and lasting popularity in the genre of Rock guitar.

So this isn't just all about who can shred riffs the fastest or whatever.



OK!

I still think that D*ck Dale and Angus Young need to be higer on the list! You don't agree?

tony hipchest
03-06-2006, 06:14 PM
Remember:

Criteria: - Guitarists are ranked for their impact, influence, creativity, versatility,
originality, technical skill and lasting popularity in the genre of Rock guitar.


NO LES PAUL?????????????? i bet every guitarist listed would agree that les paul belongs on that list atleast at 99

unfreaking believable
kirk hamett still should be much higher as he fits all the criteria.

i can see why some great thrash metal musicians arent in there cause they dont chose to play rock music and their music rarely gets heard by the mainstream. the fact that metallica made it to the mainstream speaks volumes.

Suitanim
03-06-2006, 06:23 PM
**** Dale was pretty influencial, and you can still hear guys like Rivers Cuomo (Weezer) cribbing his stuff. Les Paul was more of an inventor, but he should probably be here...good call Tony.

Angus Young? Well, he plays the blues. The band is popular, but he's not much of an innovator. Kirk Hammett? He was HEAVILY influenced by NWOBHM bands like Iron Maiden, so in that sense I'd say a guy like Dave Murray was just as influential since he was there first.

Kerry King? C'mon, man...

tony hipchest
03-06-2006, 06:31 PM
Kerry King? C'mon, man... that was before i noticed it was limited to just rock. litp can get me on my reading comprehension skillz on that one. i kinda wondered why atleast 1 country guitarist didnt make the list (not that i think they should)

les paul made rock and roll possible. he practically helped invent it. i remembered watching something on cnn or something when he died here recently. he was still jamming at a very old age (and jamming good). many of those listed were talking about how important he was to the whole genre. very true. everybody listed probably owns a les paul guitar.

3 to be 4
03-06-2006, 06:48 PM
George Harrison, #57??? I thought being influential was part of it? How many kids became guitarists because of him? I agree that technically, he aint no top 10, but he and The Beatles introduced a lot of stuff to mainstream listeners and brought a new generation of wannabes that otherwise wouldnt have.

Suitanim
03-06-2006, 06:52 PM
George Harrison, #57??? I thought being influential was part of it? How many kids became guitarists because of him? I agree that technically, he aint no top 10, but he and The Beatles introduced a lot of stuff to mainstream listeners and brought a new generation of wannabes that otherwise wouldnt have.
I'm surprised it took what, 10 posts? To get to this.

Yup, George Harrison was WAY influencial. Just playing the sitar was crazy innovation.

That's a legitimate gripe. I'd have him in the top 20.

3 to be 4
03-06-2006, 06:58 PM
Yup. Rockabilly, feedback on "I Feel Fine" in 1965,Sitar, he didnt always play it perfectly, but he introduced stuff to the masses. For that matter, Brian Jones added a dimension to the Stones that they NEVER replaced. Really now, after the late what great new sound did the Stones ever come up with?

TasmanianTroy271
03-06-2006, 07:01 PM
Geeze, whenever we're talking about travesties of this list, how about the complete ignorance of the virtuoso known as BUCKETHEAD!

Seriously, dude can play.

But anyways, I'm glad Gilmour is up at the top. He's really always taken a backseat to Waters in his own band, and I'm glad to see him in the top 10. Kinda like John Frusciante, in the sense that he didn't need to play extremely fast to make great guitar solos.

Suitanim
03-06-2006, 07:09 PM
Buckethead is in at 30.

Ambridge
03-06-2006, 11:36 PM
My 15 year old son who's been learning to play the guitar for the last two years has been listening to Yngwie Malmsteen on his Limewire quite a bit as of late.

I've never heard of the guy until my son told me about him but I see he's #15 on the list.

Gee!!..........I feel old.

MattsMe
03-07-2006, 02:40 AM
George Harrison, #57??? I thought being influential was part of it? How many kids became guitarists because of him? I agree that technically, he aint no top 10, but he and The Beatles introduced a lot of stuff to mainstream listeners and brought a new generation of wannabes that otherwise wouldnt have.


Totally agree. Harrison should be moved up about 40 spots.

Here's another name that deserves some recognition....Carl Perkins.
It's true he played country later in his career, but no one can deny his influence on rock, especially rockabilly. Paul McCartney said "If there were no Carl Perkins, there would be no Beatles."

Also....where's John Fogerty? Talk about a guitar sound that's instantly recognizable.

And Billy Gibbons is way too high on the list, (yes I know he's at 77....still too high).
Influential? Um...I guess so. Versatile? Hardly. ZZ Top has been remaking the same album over and over for years. Although I guess he does score big in the lasting popularity category.


I'm also surprised nobody's questioning Dave Mustaine's absence on the list. I can't say for sure that he should be on there, but I would have thought someone else would.

augustashark
03-07-2006, 02:53 PM
I'm also surprised nobody's questioning Dave Mustaine's absence on the list. I can't say for sure that he should be on there, but I would have thought someone else would.


Screw him, he does'nt deserve to be on the list! When ever you get kicked out of maybe the best metal band of alltime it should tell you something about the guy.

His freaking music is nothing more then a rip off of his former band!


Boy did he blow it. Megadeath had like two hits.

Suitanim
03-07-2006, 07:09 PM
Anyone see "Some Kind of Monster", the Metallica documentray? Mustaine was all weepy and crying and being pissy wth Lars because he had to sit back and watch a band that he was kicked out of (supposedly, he was impossible to get along with) become the biggest band in the World.

tony hipchest
03-07-2006, 07:12 PM
Anyone see "Some Kind of Monster", the Metallica documentray? Mustaine was all weepy and crying and being pissy wth Lars because he had to sit back and watch a band that he was kicked out of (supposedly, he was impossible to get along with) become the biggest band in the World. not quite the image you want with youre hardcore, tough dude, heavy metal, lead guitarist.

SteelerDan43
03-07-2006, 07:19 PM
Zakk Wylde is the best I've ever seen, the guy can play absolutley anything. In the middle of the set while the rest of the band is takin a break he switches off and plays solo country style stuff on his acoustic. He is just plain sick...

MattsMe
03-07-2006, 07:26 PM
When ever you get kicked out of maybe the best metal band of alltime it should tell you something about the guy.

And that is......?

Also what's the difference between being kicked out of the best metal band and being kicked out of the worst metal band? Besides the obvious assumption that it's a lot easier to be kicked out of the best band than it is the worst band, which makes his being kicked out even less important.

Besides, he should make the list for doing as much heroin as he did (been to rehab like 13 times) and still being able to play!


On a serious note, I don't actually think Dave Mustaine is in the top 100. I'm not even a big fan of his music. I'm just surpised he's not on the list, considering a few of the other questionables that made it.

All just an opinion though, and I'm no expert. I'm just a really bored Steeler fan killing time until the preseason.....

Ohio Steeler
03-07-2006, 07:29 PM
I have always been a fan of kayne wayne shepherd 's man can he play

Suitanim
03-07-2006, 07:51 PM
Actually, I think Prince should probably be on this list. Before you laugh, check out the re-runs of SNL in the next couple of months and watch/tape the show where he is the musical guest. I've always known he could shred, but I always had him pegged as a Jimi Hendrix clone...he's very clean and technical, and his influence on rock is certainly evident.

tony hipchest
03-07-2006, 08:16 PM
Actually, I think Prince should probably be on this list. Before you laugh, check out the re-runs of SNL in the next couple of months and watch/tape the show where he is the musical guest. I've always known he could shred, but I always had him pegged as a Jimi Hendrix clone...he's very clean and technical, and his influence on rock is certainly evident. plus the fact that he can write, produce, play just about anything. while its not my cup of tea hes a great and talented musician. he should be on the list but it is a pretty selective list.

MattsMe
03-07-2006, 09:20 PM
... but I always had him pegged as a Jimi Hendrix clone.

Gotta be the clothes.

3 to be 4
03-07-2006, 09:22 PM
Valerie of "Josie and the *****cats"

augustashark
03-07-2006, 11:04 PM
And that is......?

.....



:alcoholic Alcohollica aka see below.

Mustaine is a rip off artist, plain and simple!

MattsMe
03-08-2006, 12:41 AM
:alcoholic Alcohollica aka see below.

Mustaine is a rip off artist, plain and simple!

Like I said...I don't think he should be on the list.

augustashark
03-08-2006, 02:52 PM
and where the hell is ace frehley!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Gene Simmons has rights to Ace and the makers of this list did not want to pay $$ to Gene for the use of his name!:sofunny: