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mesaSteeler
10-18-2010, 09:40 PM
NFL from the sidelines

After hobnobbing around the NFL in the press boxes and sidelines, sports reporter Dale Lolley will let you know the insider scoop.
Monday, October 18, 2010
Hypocrisy 101
http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/sidelines/

Rodney Harrison talking about players needing to be suspended for helmet to helmet hits on other players screams of hypocrisy.

This is the same Rodney Harrison, after all, who routinely won the vote for being the dirtiest player in the game when he still played. This is the same Rodney Harrison who was fined over $200,000 during his playing career and suspended himself for illegal hits.

And some of the hits he pointed to were made by Steelers linebacker James Harrison Sunday against the Browns.

I sat in, as I do every year, on the officials meeting with the media when they come to training camp to explain rules interpretations and points of emphasis.

One of the new ones this year was put in place to protect receivers from dangerous hits. Defenders are no longer permitted to launch themselves into those receivers and must aim their hit to the torso.

Take a look at the hit by Harrison on Mohamed Massaquoi in the photo that is posted here and you see he's not launching himself. He simply lowers his shoulder moments after the ball arrives. It's a legal hit - as explained to me this summer by the NFL officials who attended the Steelers training camp.

As for the hit on Josh Cribbs, he's a running back on that play and there are no rules in place to protect them from helmet-to-helmet plays. In addition, that play was more of a freak happenstance than anything. Cribbs happened to turn into Harrison just as he arrived to help LaMarr Woodley get Cribbs to the ground.

ETL
10-19-2010, 10:00 PM
Some questions and observations about this whole shit:

1. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT RULE DID JAMES HARRISON BREAK? WHY WAS HIS HIT ILLEGAL?

2. "NFL didn't go far enough in fining James Harrison" - Cleveland Plain Dealer - BROWN FANS ARE PUSSIES - but that is being redundant.

3. Rodney Harrison is a *****. He'll have no problem f*&king your wife but complain if you f*&k his wife.

4. Monday Night Football's new song ... "Are you ready for some ... FLAG Football?!?!?!?"

ETL
10-19-2010, 10:25 PM
Also what is a defenseless receiver?

If massaquai catches the ball - is he still defenseless? What was Harrison supposed to do there? Let the guy run by him?

jjpro11
10-19-2010, 10:27 PM
if you're going to bring up hypocrisy, Browns fans are the biggest hypocrites of them all. two weeks ago they celebrated an illegal hit and anointed TJ Ward as king. they also couldn't stop boasting about how they hurt Roethlisberger two seasons ago... or all the pathetic jokes and talk about Roethlisberger's motorcycle accident. they have the nerve to whine and cry foul when two of their guys get punished on two careless plays by their offense.

coffeecup
10-19-2010, 11:33 PM
Hypocrisy is when the NFL store is selling photos of the hit that Harrison was fined $75,000 for making. This was on KDKA this evening and I just checked the store and yep, it's there! [http://www.replayphotos.com/nflphotostore/2010-11-season-print/james-harrison-mohamed-massaquoi_321187.cfm

ricardisimo
10-19-2010, 11:53 PM
Hypocrisy is when the NFL store is selling photos of the hit that Harrison was fined $75,000 for making. This was on KDKA this evening and I just checked the store and yep, it's there! [http://www.replayphotos.com/nflphotostore/2010-11-season-print/james-harrison-mohamed-massaquoi_321187.cfm
Give that man a cigar. That is, indeed, hypocrisy. It's also further proof that the NFL has zero interest in protecting players and limiting concussions. Why add two more games if you want to protect players?

jjpro11
10-20-2010, 12:15 AM
"It's all about the Benjamins" for the NFL... the players see right through it too judging by all the comments i keep hearing and reading.

Deserei90
10-20-2010, 08:22 AM
Just want to start off by saying I'm new to The Steeler Fourm!!!



http://www.replayphotos.com/nflphotostore/2010-11-season-print/james-harrison-mohamed-massaquoi_321187.cfm:banging:

Wait, So James gets fine 75k by the nfl for the hit on massaquoi, but then they turn around and sell photos of the hit? Somethings not right with this picture. he either is trying to get more money or he's just making a mockery out of this. Maybe he's doing this to point it to steeler fans, because let's face it, it looks as if he's encouraging steeler fans to buy it, and to be happy about it. NFL is full of hypocrites. They say they don't want violent hits, yet they are promoting it.

The NFL think they can have their cake and eat it too? Disgusting.

CaliStillersFan
10-20-2010, 08:40 AM
It's getting harder and harder to remain a fan of the NFL these days. Next year is going to be the first time in over a decade that I'm considering not renewing on subscription to the NFL Sunday Ticket. I just can't justify giving the NFL my money anymore. Goodell has ruined the NFL and his reign of terror looks to have no end in sight.

theplatypus
10-20-2010, 08:41 AM
I heard about this on Mike and Mike this morning.

Deserei90
10-20-2010, 08:46 AM
It's getting harder and harder to remain a fan of the NFL these days. Next year is going to be the first time in over a decade that I'm considering not renewing on subscription to the NFL Sunday Ticket. I just can't justify giving the NFL my money anymore. Goodell has ruined the NFL and his reign of terror looks to have no end in sight.
I know it's sad, I love The Steelers to death, but I can't stand what the nfl is doing about these rules. First I hear harrison might retire, now I hear all these changes coming. Sooner or later is not going to be the nfl anymore. More like The NFFL(National Flag Football League). God forbid if that happens though.

MACH1
10-20-2010, 08:58 AM
It's getting harder and harder to remain a fan of the NFL these days. Next year is going to be the first time in over a decade that I'm considering not renewing on subscription to the NFL Sunday Ticket. I just can't justify giving the NFL my money anymore. Goodell has ruined the NFL and his reign of terror looks to have no end in sight.

IF they go on strike there's no need to get sunday ticket.

steelax04
10-20-2010, 09:01 AM
They stopped selling the photos...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5706132

CaliStillersFan
10-20-2010, 09:06 AM
Sure once their hypocrisy was broadcast to the nation this morning, they decided the negative PR wasn't worth the $300 they were charging for a blown up copy of the photo.

steelax04
10-20-2010, 09:10 AM
Sure once their hypocrisy was broadcast to the nation this morning, they decided the negative PR wasn't worth the $300 they were charging for a blown up copy of the photo.

IMHO, they should refund every purchase of the photo.

Stu Pidasso
10-20-2010, 10:20 AM
They stopped selling the photos...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5706132

I just clicked on this link: http://www.replayphotos.com/nflphotostore/2010-11-season-print/james-harrison--mohamed-massaquoi_320884.cfm and it's still for sale.

coffeecup
10-20-2010, 10:47 AM
The photo has "disappeared" from their store - No longer available! I guess that's what you do when your hand is caught in the cookie jar and you are exposed for who you are . It made the 6:00 news last night and by this morning it's gone.

Curtain_of_Steel
10-20-2010, 10:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLXJy3dap3o

Here is both hits, not sure if this was put up or not.

But as I stated yesterday and just now. the wr lowers his head to harrison. If he didnt harrison would only have ruptured massaquois spleen and not hit him in the head. They of course are not labeled this a head shot, but a hit on a defenceless player. But every tackle like this can end like this if the WR lowers his head to the tackler.

wyn50
10-20-2010, 11:27 AM
The NFL is full of it. It's the league of hypocrites. The only reason they fined Harrison was of his reputattion. That reputation helped him win the defensive player award. So what is the league saying now. I like what one analyst said and to blame the qb cuz they are putting the receivers at risk by throwing into zones that get them crushed.Harrison is just doing his job on sundays and is great at it.

steelax04
10-20-2010, 11:27 AM
I just clicked on this link: http://www.replayphotos.com/nflphotostore/2010-11-season-print/james-harrison--mohamed-massaquoi_320884.cfm and it's still for sale.

They said they were going to take them down... my reading comprehension wasn't up to par on that one. However, if they are as serious about these rules and this 'mistake' they should have been taken down immediately.

steelax04
10-20-2010, 11:30 AM
The photo has "disappeared" from their store - No longer available! I guess that's what you do when your hand is caught in the cookie jar and you are exposed for who you are . It made the 6:00 news last night and by this morning it's gone.

Not sure if this was the photo... but Stu pointed out it was still up

http://www.replayphotos.com/nflphotostore/2010-11-season-print/james-harrison--mohamed-massaquoi_320884.cfm

Fire Haley
10-20-2010, 12:06 PM
Bullshit - they knew, they got their advertising dollars out of it first, you betcha

SI has this pic on the cover story - how much $$$ are they making from Harrison's hit? Hypocrites.

http://img.fannation.com/upload/si_blog_post_images/70181/tx_harrison_browns2.jpg

coffeecup
10-20-2010, 02:48 PM
Not sure if this was the photo... but Stu pointed out it was still up

http://www.replayphotos.com/nflphotostore/2010-11-season-print/james-harrison--mohamed-massaquoi_320884.cfm

Yeah, it's the same photo. They must have just changed the link. (If you click on my link, it says "Photo no longer available" and it worked when I originally posted it because I verified the link in Preview).

As one news commentator pointed out, if they sell about 300 of the 15 x 20 canvas photos, it will equal Harrison's fine.

Haiku_Dirtt
10-20-2010, 03:29 PM
Unfortunately I think everyone is over-reacting.

I don't know how anyone can play football if the Cribbs hit is an issue. They are opening up the proverbial Pandora's Box here.

We are talking about millionaires playing for billionaires. The last I checked playing for the NFL is voluntary.

lionslicer
10-21-2010, 12:28 PM
Mark Schlereth goes off on the NFL and their hypocritical decision in the past couple days with Harrison and the other NFL 'hemlet to helmet' hits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlLjPswUfRs

SacknificentStew56
10-21-2010, 12:58 PM
Very Hypocritical it was. 75K is extortion to the hightest power. Schlereth makes some interesting points. I love how the league quickly halted the sales of NFL hits.

jjpro11
10-21-2010, 02:26 PM
if anyone has been noticing, this has turned into NBC vs ESPN.. the NBC analysts and writers (including the PFT douche bag spearheading everything) are all lobbying for these changes while the ESPN crew are all opposing it.

magoo
10-21-2010, 04:44 PM
This is my opinion on the topic.

NFL football fans, including myself, like to say, ĎI donít want to see players injured.í But, indeed it is, and always has been, a part of the game. You canít convince me that the NFL game isnít just a small step down from the Roman Coliseum. Truth be told, the violent aspect is what has made the game a phenomenal success. Long before the forward pass became an important part of the modern game, people were sitting in stadiums across the nation watching the collisions. After all, water coolers were around in the 1950's.

Witnessing real violence is very compelling. We are not so unlike the 50,000 people who used to gather in Rome, in the first century, to view the show. Donít we enjoy rubbernecking traffic accidents on the highway? It seems to be inherent.

I am not so naÔve to think the NFL isnít aware of this aspect of our natural tendencies. Why else would NFL.com and the NFL Network spend all Wednesday talking about, and showing the videos of the players who they levied fines against this week. In particular, the James Harrison hit on Mohamed Massaquoi was shown ad nauseum. Read More (http://www.nflnews2010.com/not-buying-the-nfl%27s-stance-of-protecting-players.html)

geo123
10-22-2010, 08:27 AM
Good site Magoo, the Mark Shreath clip was dead on!