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silver2000svt
03-20-2006, 07:26 AM
But, I believe that we end up with Missouri WR/RB/QB Brad Smith instead... I think Smith has much more upside and could fill ARE's roll in a year or two... The kid is an amazing athlete and would fit perfectly in Wiz's system... I am not sure Robinson won't even get drafted, I am not impressed with him at all...

Hammer67
03-20-2006, 07:32 AM
But, I believe that we end up with Missouri WR/RB/QB Brad Smith instead... I think Smith has much more upside and could fill ARE's roll in a year or two... The kid is an amazing athlete and would fit perfectly in Wiz's system... I am not sure Robinson won't even get drafted, I am not impressed with him at all...


Robinson is the most accurate thrower but he is tough, fast and does have a cannon. He would probably be a great receiver or even a tailback. I don't think he has the accuracy to be an NFL QB. (think Kordell Stewart)

I do see him fit the "El" mold though....kickoff returns and 2nd - 3rd receiver...

Suitanim
03-20-2006, 09:52 AM
I'm not sure about who the Steelers will draft as their new "Slash-type" guy, but I'm pretty sure they will pick one.

I'm curious, though. In the past, when they had KS, they'd always chose more of a pocket passer with their obligatory later round QB pick...since Ben is a bit of both, I'm wondering if they skip the whole pocket passer idea and just go with an athletic type to fill both the PR/KR/WR role AND 3rd string QB.

tony hipchest
03-20-2006, 09:57 AM
I'm not sure about who the Steelers will draft as their new "Slash-type" guy, but I'm pretty sure they will pick one.

I'm curious, though. In the past, when they had KS, they'd always chose more of a pocket passer with their obligatory later round QB pick...since Ben is a bit of both, I'm wondering if they skip the whole pocket passer idea and just go with an athletic type to fill both the PR/KR/WR role AND 3rd string QB.

that makes sense because it frees up 1 extra roster spot if say we wanted to carry 5 rb's instead of 4. i think they make these decisions after the draft and during preseason, just in case they find a late gem (willie parker) who they really want to keep. then they have the luxury of kicking someone like brian st pierre to the curb.

SalukiSteelers
03-20-2006, 10:06 AM
I agree w/Suit. Why not take an athlete when one is available? Given the Steelers' use of gadgets and the play-calling and roster freedom an athletic college QB provides it seems like sound logic. Reps to you, Suit.

rowedf
03-20-2006, 10:15 AM
Smith is awesome ... his running skills are insane.

Mosca
03-20-2006, 12:22 PM
I say sign Robinson as a FA if he's available, but don't be afraid to cut him and move on if the guy can't hack it; we don't need a project. And we don't NEED a slashy gadget play guy; no sense drafting a guy for 2-3 plays a season. He has to be in there for a large % of the plays, or the gadget gets telegraphed.

I say for that reason the gadget mantle gets passed to Hines and we look for true recievers.


Tom

TasmanianTroy271
03-20-2006, 03:08 PM
I think it'd be good for us to get the Slash type player, seeing as even though he'd only be in a few plays a year, the Defense would still have to account for those plays on every down. The Slash type player isn't there just for those plays, he's also there for the intimidation of the defense.

clevestinks
03-20-2006, 03:25 PM
I like Robinson and have posted many times that I would love to see us get him. But only as a fifth round or later pick. If this other guy fits the mold better, that is fine by me.

Haiku_Dirtt
03-20-2006, 04:36 PM
I like Robinson and have posted many times that I would love to see us get him. But only as a fifth round or later pick. If this other guy fits the mold better, that is fine by me.

Agree. We do have extra late round picks. I only saw a handful of PSU games but does he have the sensibility to proffer his athleticism to other positions?

silver2000svt
03-20-2006, 06:27 PM
If any of you guys saw Smit play, you would see he is the perfect slash role for us...



2005 OUTLOOK

One of the most exciting players in college football who will return for his final season in a Tiger uniform with the chance to become one of the most prolific players in NCAA history ... A true testament to the term student-athlete, he received his bachelor's degree in business administration in May of 2005, and will be taking graduate level courses in 2005-06 ... Is the NCAA's active career leader in total offense, with his 9,483 yards of total offense entering his senior season ... Next most behind him is senior QB Steven Jyles of Louisiana-Monroe, with 7,563 yards ... Ranks 2nd in the NCAA active career leaders in TDs responsible for, with 73, and trails only senior QB and 2004 Heisman Trophy winner Matt Leinart of USC (75) ... Can tie an NCAA total offense record if he gains 3,000 yards this season, then he will join five others (Ty Detmer of BYU; Chad Pennington of Marshall; Tim Rattay of Louisiana Tech; Kliff Kingsbury of Texas Tech and Timmy Chang of Hawaii) as the only players in Division I-A history to have 3 years of 3,000 yards or more in total offense ... With just 2,500 yards of offense, will become only the 3rd player in D-I history to have 4 years of 2,500 yards of total offense (Antwaan Randle El of Indiana; Timmy Chang of Hawaii) ... Needs just 12 yards rushing to reach 3,000 for his career, and that would make him only the 5th player in NCAA D-I history to have 3,000 yards passing and rushing ... Also needs just 505 passing yards and 512 rushing yards to become only the 3rd player in NCAA D-I history to throw for 7,000 yards and rush for 3,500 yards (Antwaan Randle El of Indiana; Joshua Cribbs of Kent State) ... Needs just 22 points scored to reach 200 for his career, which would make him only the 4th player in NCAA D-I history to throw for 200 points and score 200 points in a career (Rick Leach of Michigan; Antwaan Randle El of Indiana; Joshua Cribbs of Kent State) ... Stands 907 rushing yards shy of Antwaan Randle El's NCAA D-I career rushing record for QBs (3,895) ... Enters the 2005 season ranked 10th alltime in rushing yards for a QB, with 2,988 yards ... Also begins 2005 ranked 53rd in NCAA D-I history in total offense (9,483 yards), and if he reached his three-year average of 3,161 in 2005, he'd end up with 12,644 yards, which would put him 5th alltime ... Needs 2,781 yards of total offense to break the Big 12 record of 12,263 by Texas Tech's Kliff Kingsbury (1999-2002) ... Also needs just 447 rushing yards to break the Big 12 QB rushing record of 3,434 by Nebraska's Eric Crouch (1998-2001) ... After just three seasons, has already broken the MU career records for total offense, and passing TDs (43), and needs just 464 passing yards to break passing record of 6,959 held by Jeff Handy (1991-94) and just 211 rushing yards to break rushing record of 3,198 by Zack Abron (2000-03).




College
After being redshirted in 2001 he became the four-year starter (never missing a start) for the Tigers of Mizzou. His redshirt freshman year he established himself as one of the elite quaterbacks in college football becoming only the second player in Division 1-A football history to ever pass for 2,000 yards and rush for 1,000. He received numerous national and Big 12 Conference freshman honors, leading the Tigers to a 5-7 record. His sophomore year he led Mizzou to an 8-5 record and their first bowl game since 1998. In 2004 the Tigers went a disappointing 5-6 after beginning the season ranked number 17 by the Associated Press. His senior year he led the Tigers to a 7-5 record and his second Independence Bowl in three years and the first Mizzou bowl victory in 7 years.

Currently Brad is in the Business School at Mizzou working on his graduate degree in Business Administration. He received his business degree from Mizzou in May 2005.

Smith has set numerous Missouri, Big 12, and Division 1-A records. In his junior season, he was considered a preseason Heisman candidate by many, but Mizzou and Brad did not live up to expectations, achieving only a 5-6 record.

Brad is a leader on and off the field. He exceled in the classroom, and has been named to the Big 12 All-Academic Team. He participated in the Mike Jones Football Clinic, Chancellor's Lunch, Big Brothers and Big Sisters Bowl for Kids Sake, Student-Athlete Advisory Committee Food Drive, Truman Club and Athletes-in-Action, among others.


Accomplishments
All-time division 1-A leader for rushing by a quaterback
First player in division 1-A history to pass for 8,000 yards and run for 4,000 yards in career
First player in division 1-A history to pass for 2,000 yards and run for 1,000 yards in a season twice in a career
Second player in division 1-A history to rush for 1,000 yards and pass for 2,000 yards in a season
Fourth player in division 1-A history to score 200 points and pass for 200 points in a career
Sixth player in division 1-A history to pass for 200 yards and rush for 200 yards in a single game (vs. Nebraska on October 22, 2005)
Most rushing yards in division 1-A history by a freshman quaterback
Holds school record for:
career rushing yards
career touchdown passes
career total yards
career total points scored
most points in a game (30) and most touchdowns (5) (vs. Texas Tech on October 25, 2003)
Holds 59 different MU, Big 12 and NCAA game, season and career records (as of 12/2005)
2006 Hula Bowl MVP
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Honors
2002 1st-Team Freshman All-American by FWAA, The Sporting News, College Football News, and Rivals.com
2002 Honorable Mention All-American by CNNSI.com, College Football News
2002 and 2003 honorable mention All-Big 12 by AP
2002 and 2004 Honorable Mention All-Big 12 by coaches
2003 4th-Team All-American by College Sports Report
2003 3rd-Team All-Big 12 by coaches
2005 Draddy Trophy finalist

schoondog
03-21-2006, 01:07 AM
thank you for wasting my time with all that useless information.

Steel Pit
03-21-2006, 02:50 AM
I like Robinson. He's multi-talented on the field. Strong, fast and tough. I've always hated his accuracy but he's nothing like Kordell Stewart as someone mentioned in this thread. Robinson rarely threw to the wrong area of the field or to the wrong man as Kordell did. They're nothing alike. Robinson has good decision making skills, he's just not accurate enough to throw a catchable pass.

Livinginthe past
03-21-2006, 03:34 AM
I like Robinson. He's multi-talented on the field. Strong, fast and tough. I've always hated his accuracy but he's nothing like Kordell Stewart as someone mentioned in this thread. Robinson rarely threw to the wrong area of the field or to the wrong man as Kordell did. They're nothing alike. Robinson has good decision making skills, he's just not accurate enough to throw a catchable pass.

How can someone not be accurate enough to throw a catchable pass yet also 'rarely throw to the wrong area of the field'?

Its got to be one or the other, or maybe he doesn't throw at all?

NM

silver2000svt
03-21-2006, 02:06 PM
thank you for wasting my time with all that useless information.

Someone asked, so you can shut up and move along...

Midnightwriter1
03-21-2006, 02:19 PM
lol will be interesting to see if Wiz wants to bring someone in that cna fill that role or not.

schoondog
03-21-2006, 05:05 PM
Someone asked, so you can shut up and move along...

did somebodys feelings get hurt and who asked for smiths stats? i didn't see anyone asking.

If any of you guys saw Smit play, you would see he is the perfect slash role for us..." I would of loved to have seen him play last year but apparently Missouri was to chicken to play us and backed out of the contract

Livinginthe past
03-22-2006, 01:42 AM
did somebodys feelings get hurt and who asked for smiths stats? i didn't see anyone asking.

If any of you guys saw Smit play, you would see he is the perfect slash role for us..." I would of loved to have seen him play last year but apparently Missouri was to chicken to play us and backed out of the contract

I dont think anybody feels that they have to wait for permission to post on a certain subject.

The theme of the thread is a slash type QB, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to post some stats and info on another QB of that genre.

NM

Rotorhead
03-22-2006, 03:05 AM
Well according to The Sporting News the Steelers went to look at Robinson's workout (including Cowher) so we know they are interested at least.

Steel Pit
03-22-2006, 06:03 AM
How can someone not be accurate enough to throw a catchable pass yet also 'rarely throw to the wrong area of the field'?

Its got to be one or the other, or maybe he doesn't throw at all?

NM

Well he could quite simply throw the ball at the receivers feet, throw the ball over the head of the receiver and out of bounds. There's a variety of ways to be inaccurate without throwing interceptions. From my experiences of watching college football, I see receivers uncovered on numerous plays. A QB can make the right decision and throw towards the open receiver but he still has to be accurate enough to make the pass catchable. Robinson typically makes the right decision and throws to the open man but the pass isn't catchable as oten as it should be or it requires a spectacular effort from the receiver to make the catch. That's all that I'm saying, it doesn't have to be one way or the other as you indicated.

clevestinks
03-23-2006, 08:59 AM
Silver, nice job on the homework, alot of reading but very informative!