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mesaSteeler
11-01-2010, 08:36 AM
Steelers Notebook: OLB Gibson is likely to be lost on waivers
Monday, November 01, 2010
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


NEW ORLEANS -- The Steelers likely sacrificed their fourth-round draft choice on the altar of having defensive end Aaron Smith back -- maybe, possibly --for the playoffs.

Linebacker Thaddeus Gibson, who was placed on waivers Saturday so the Steelers could add defensive lineman Steve McLendon to the roster for a third game this season, likely will be claimed by another team off waivers today. It is expected that, at the very least, Buffalo will put in a claim for him; Doug Whaley, the former Steelers pro personnel coordinator, is Buffalo's assistant general manager.

Smith had surgery Monday to repair a torn triceps tendon in his left arm, and the Steelers hope he might be able to play by the end of the season or in the postseason.

They knew when they placed Gibson on waivers that a team likely would claim him and there would be little chance to sneak him through and onto the practice squad. They had other choices but chose this route.

"Linebacker is our deepest position," said coach Mike Tomlin on the team's website, "and [Gibson] is the low man on the totem pole, so we had to make that necessary move. We were thin at defensive line. It's just one of the casualties of this profession. It's very much a reality, and that's why we don't take what we're doing here for granted and we acknowledge that it's precious."
Tomlin speaks his mind

Tomlin continued to take a strong stance against what he termed the NFL's overreaction to some hits two weeks ago. Here are some things he said on Football Night in America on NBC Sunday night, as provided by the network:

On last week's play where it appeared James Harrison changed his style of play and pulled up on Dolphins running back Ronnie Brown: "In that particular instance, they were painting a picture that they wanted to see. The way I viewed that play was that Ronnie Brown caught the ball clean and ducked out like a savvy veteran football player. He's the person that eliminated the contact as opposed to James pulling off. I took exception to using James in that way."

On the NFL deciding to enforce greater discipline midseason: "When you start looking at things that you discussed in the offseason and adjusting during the season, you're doing it from an emotional standpoint. Usually emotional decisions aren't good ones. It was an overreaction to a couple of unfortunate incidents that occurred a few weeks ago."

Tomlin on changes in quarterback Ben Roethlisberger: "As a player, I think he's enjoying the monotony more. That's natural. That's human nature. When something is taken away from you, you have a greater appreciation for it once you have an opportunity to get it back. As a person, more than anything, it's about taking an accounting of where he is and what's important to him. A lot of times in life, we all get off the mark a little bit especially when you experience the kind of success that he has. It can be trap door, if you will. He's really assessing and evaluating, not only what's important to him, but who he surrounds himself with and how he conducts himself."

Tomlin on Super Bowl hangovers: "I don't know why people are surprised by that. It's tough to walk the journey and win it one time let alone two times back-to-back. Your offseason is shorter. There's more obligations in that offseason that happens to be shorter. There's a lot of things that can get you off track when you are defending Super Bowl champs."
Roster updates

New Orleans was without its two starting cornerbacks and top two running backs Sunday night as corners Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter were scratched along with running backs Reggie Bush and Pierre Thomas.

Rookie Patrick Robinson, the Saints' first-round draft pick, made his fourth start at left cornerback for Greer, and Leigh Torrence started for Porter. Undrafted rookie Chris Ivory, the Saints' leading rusher, started at halfback.

The rest of the Saints' inactive players were offensive tackle Charles Brown, tight end Tory Humphrey and defensive end Junior Galette.

The Steelers' inactives were Smith, No. 3 quarterback Charlie Batch, running back Jonathan Dwyer, cornerback Crezdon Butler, offensive tackle Tony Hills, offensive guard Ramon Foster, wide receiver Antonio Brown, and defensive end Brett Keisel.
Primetime darlings

This is the first of three consecutive primetime games for the Steelers.

They play in Cincinnati against the Bengals next Monday night and return home for a Sunday night game against the New England Patriots Nov. 14. The Steelers have won five consecutive games and are 38-22 lifetime on Monday Night Football.

The Bengals and Patriots -- division winners last season -- are headed in opposite directions.

The Bengals have lost four games in a row after their 22-14 defeat Sunday against Miami, and the Patriots have won five games in a row after their 28-18 victory against Minnesota.
Essex returns as starter

After missing the past four games with an ankle injury, offensive guard Trai Essex returned to the starting lineup against the Saints.

Essex had been replaced in the starting lineup by Doug Legursky, who struggled at times last Sunday against Miami.
Sanders flashes form again

Steelers wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders, in competition each week with fellow rookie Antonio Brown for what Tomlin likes to call "a hat" and a spot in the lineup, continued to shine as a return man against the Saints. His 38-yard punt return late in the first quarter Sunday night set up a Jeff Reed field goal, the only Steelers points in the first half. Against Miami a week earlier, Sanders fumbled the opening kickoff but then had returns of 37, 27 and 48 yards. That last return set up Reed's winning field goal in the Steelers' 23-22 win.
Hundred-yard drought

The Steelers came into the game searching for their first 100-plus-yard rushing performance in more than a month. Rashard Mendenhall hadn't hit the century mark since his 143-yard afternoon Sept. 26 at Tampa.
Odd deployment

On New Orleans' first possession, defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau employed a little-used alignment completely devoid of defensive linemen in a three-point stance. Ziggy Hood, making his first NFL start at defensive end, stood upright in between an offensive guard and center.

Even more unusual, LeBeau called that defense on first-and-10.

The Post-Gazette's Gerry Dulac, Gene Collier and Ron Cook contributed to this report. For more on the Steelers, read the blog, Ed Bouchette On the Steelers at www.post-gazette.com/plus. Ed Bouchette can be reached at ebouchette@post-gazette.com.


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Fire Arians
11-01-2010, 05:44 PM
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2010/11/49ers-claim-lb-thaddeus-gibson-off-waivers/

yep...

hated this decision, aaron smith owes us a hell of a comeback

steelerchad
11-01-2010, 05:54 PM
Damn. I'm not happy about this move. If Smith doesn't comeback, and I doubt he will this move was a mistake. You have to protect your young talent. Are we deep at LBer, yes. Will we be in 3 years, I doubt it.

jjpro11
11-01-2010, 06:32 PM
Gibson is now a 49er.

Fire Arians
11-01-2010, 06:38 PM
Gibson is now a 49er.

yeah sucks, at least though he's not a bengal, raven, or brown, and not in the AFC. i think the kid has a bright future though

Tone's Toes
11-01-2010, 06:55 PM
We'll see. He's got some talent but he's always been an underachiever. I see him as just a backup LB if anything.

Atlanta Dan
11-01-2010, 07:13 PM
Hate to waste a 4th round draft choice which is the result of this move

Saying the Steelers are deep at LB right now with no concession the Steelers traditionally groom D players to step in after several years (when Farrior and perhaps Harrison may be long gone) symbolizes this team focusing everything on winning this season based on the apparent assumption the window is closing and whether or not Gibson can be a starter in 2012 is of no concern to this crew


At some point you need to plan a little for tomorrow rather than focus everything on the present - by way of example, back in the day the Steelers cut a DE named Dwaine Board to try to get one more year from Dwight White as one example of Chuck Noll failing to turn over an aging roster - White was done and Board went on to be a starter who won 2 rings with the 49ers and could have helped out the Steelers as the 70s starters faded away

Of course we do not know if Gibson showed something(or more accurately nothing) to the coaches in the six months since the draft that leads them to believe the 2 keepers at LB from this draft are Worlds and Sylvester

Atlanta Dan
11-01-2010, 07:18 PM
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2010/11/49ers-claim-lb-thaddeus-gibson-off-waivers/

yep...

hated this decision, aaron smith owes us a hell of a comeback

Also hate this decision (almost as much as going for it on 4th and 4 in the third quarter from the 40 when you are only down 3 points:banging:)

But certainly in any way pin this on Aaron Smith or say he owes anything = Tomlin owes a hell of an explanation as to why a 4th round pick in this year's draft rather than a journeyman such as Battle or Madison who might have cleared waivers since they have no potential to start somewhere else was not exposed to the waiver wire to preserve a long shot chance Smith can return in 2 months and play at something approaching his former level

ricardisimo
11-01-2010, 08:15 PM
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2010/11/49ers-claim-lb-thaddeus-gibson-off-waivers/

yep...

hated this decision, aaron smith owes us a hell of a comeback
No, Arnaz Battle owes us more than two special teams tackles. Of course, you can look at the gamebook (http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/54838/NO_Gamebook.pdf) from this past week and see why we had to keep Battle.

truesteelerfan
11-02-2010, 09:23 PM
And he's gone....to the 49ers....I don't like it, but a decision had to be made to let somebody go....Not the guy I would have picked....but can't keep everybody....

Fire Arians
11-02-2010, 09:56 PM
No, Arnaz Battle owes us more than two special teams tackles. Of course, you can look at the gamebook (http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/54838/NO_Gamebook.pdf) from this past week and see why we had to keep Battle.

well true. i don't know what contributions all these reporters are seeing that battle is doing. you'd think this dude is the next steve tasker or some shit

seriously cutting a 4th round pick, I don't like it.

ZoneBlitzer
11-03-2010, 01:45 AM
This sucks. I noticed his play on ST. Why couldn't they place someone else on waivers? Surely, there must have been someone else that would have been a sure clear?

Atlanta Dan
11-03-2010, 07:38 AM
This sucks. I noticed his play on ST. Why couldn't they place someone else on waivers? Surely, there must have been someone else that would have been a sure clear?

Probably so but the Steelers under Tomlin are developing a rep of being as fond of keeping or bringing back aging vets as George Allen's R edskins were in the 70s - Madison (PG reporter Gerry Dulac's choice to be exposed towaivers) or Battle both would seem to reasonable alternatives that might have cleared waivers and who have no chance whatsoever of ever being a starter

Burning through LB candidiates in the draft that you quickly let go while the D ages is going to start to really hurt in the next several years

clevestinks
11-03-2010, 10:39 AM
Thought this guy had a ton of potential, hope we made the right call

steelerchad
11-03-2010, 10:50 AM
I agree. Battle belonged on the waiver wire. We're only dressing Sanders or Brown, so if need be dress them both. Battle could have gone, but I doubt anybody grabs him off waivers anyway. We basically gave away our 4th round pick this year for nothing.
Does it hurt us this year? No, but I think it may 3 years from now.

ZoneBlitzer
11-03-2010, 12:29 PM
I agree. Battle belonged on the waiver wire. We're only dressing Sanders or Brown, so if need be dress them both. Battle could have gone, but I doubt anybody grabs him off waivers anyway. We basically gave away our 4th round pick this year for nothing.
Does it hurt us this year? No, but I think it may 3 years from now.

Yes. Battle. I don't get it. What the hell are they thinking putting that kind of player out there? And I agree, this will bite them in the butt 3 years from now...maybe even sooner.

SteelKnight
11-06-2010, 11:36 AM
I think the Steelers should have released Arnez Battle or Antwan Randle El. Unfortunately releasing Randle El might have made the Steelers look like they don't support veterans or think of players as disposable.

Releasing one of those 2 would have meant that Sanders always dresses and Brown and McClendon could have battled for the extra spot once Keisel is fully healthy.

I did like Gibson. They said he showed some promise even more than Worilds at times...but Worilds was a protected 2nd round pick. It's good for him though if he can get on the field in SF. I'm glad he didn't stay in the division. We have too much overstock at LB. Hopefully this means we will resign Woodley and let Worilds develop.

I can't blame Tomlin. What if either Hood or Eason had gotten hurt?
It just made the coaching job easier. This is the 3rd time they had had to move McClendon. Now they can relax and keep him. We still have 8 LB with Worilds and Timmons capable of playing outside. All they have to do is make no coverage duties if Worilds has to play...simple. If they are uncomfortable, move Timmons and play Foote.

steelerohio
11-06-2010, 02:11 PM
I liked Gibson as well. Our 4th round pick and he is only a rookie with a lot of potential for the future. I just wish Tomlin put someone else on there, but I am just repeating what everyone else had already said...

fer522
11-07-2010, 01:45 PM
tomlin is a genious

ricardisimo
11-08-2010, 03:06 AM
Who wants to place a bet that Gibson will have more tackles for the 49ers (special teams or otherwise) than Battle inside of the next two or three weeks?

SteelKnight
11-08-2010, 01:36 PM
Who wants to place a bet that Gibson will have more tackles for the 49ers (special teams or otherwise) than Battle inside of the next two or three weeks?

How can we view Battle's tackles? I was trying to review this.

If this was the Steelers attitude, then I blame them for picking too many LBs during the draft. I understand we were overextended at the position . 9 LB is too much when we had 7 the season before.

OK...I understand that. Then the problem is if they knew that, why did they pick 2 LB in the top 4 picks? They should have picked someone else.

Meanwhile if they are uncomfortable with Sanders as a punt returner, they should have kept Logan over Battle. Towards the end of preseason, I saw Logan making it down to the returner quickly.

I know we are far away from the draft but I can predict the cuts which will make room for players
-Jonathan Scott, ARE, Battle, Madison.
These are helpful because it can give an idea of the players we could have afforded to lose.

They have to make sure not to activate McClendon for 9 games or he will be ineligible for PS next year.

Also...we'll know by next year if Dwyer is ready.