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realdeal
11-01-2010, 09:39 AM
Another missed field goal and terrible kickoffs. Indoors nonetheless!! Must have been partying too hard on Bourbon street the night before!!:rofl:

Say Goodbye Jeff, enjoy your time, and don't let the door hit you on the way out!

steelerdave1969
11-01-2010, 10:13 AM
I used to love Reed but the last couple years he hasnt been very reliable. I think I am thinking the same way you are right now.:banging:

steeltheone
11-01-2010, 10:54 AM
I'm not a big Reed booster but I don't fault him for 51 yarder misses.

SteelCityMom
11-01-2010, 10:56 AM
I'm not a big Reed booster but I don't fault him for 51 yarder misses.

Yeah, same here. I think he'll be gone at the end of the season, but it will have nothing to do with missing a 51 yard FG last night.

Some people have acted like kicking those in a dome are just gimmies lol.

Anywho, plenty of other reasons they lost last night...Jeff Reed played a very insignificant role in that loss IMO.

steelerohio
11-01-2010, 11:29 AM
I think what it was though, he was consistent on the 50 yarder goals but he lost that touch... that's why it's looking to be bye bye to him now if he don't start nailing the field goals he should be making...

SteelersinCA
11-01-2010, 12:12 PM
Who are you going to get to replace him. The rest of the league hasn't been too successful in finding FG kickers either. Anyone wanna try out??

Lex Yinzer
11-01-2010, 12:17 PM
What percentage of the blame falls on the coaches who, knowing how inconsistent he's been, decided to kick the long field-goal, with full knowledge that if he missed they'd be giving their opponent GREAT field position?

SteelCityMom
11-01-2010, 12:26 PM
What percentage of the blame falls on the coaches who, knowing how inconsistent he's been, decided to kick the long field-goal, with full knowledge that if he missed they'd be giving their opponent GREAT field position?

A hell of a lot. That was a horrible decision. Perfect opportunity to pin the Saints deep and probably save a scoring drive...but noooo.

Late in the game I'd have no problems with that attempt, but at the point in the game that it happened, when you have a lead (albeit a 3 point lead...but still), you don't gamble like that.

Had he made it, I would have been happy of course...but I'd still think it was a completely idiotic decision.

Some of the blame falls on the offense there too...that drive turned pathetic once they hit midfield. 5 more yards could have been the difference between a 3-3 game and a 6-0 game.

hammy36
11-01-2010, 12:58 PM
I agree that it is a little hard to fault Reed completely for missing the 51 yarder (as soon as 3rd down ended I said "punt the ball" and the end result is exactly why). That being said, he is a professional kicker and the domed conditions make the miss a little less bearable. I like Reed a lot as he has traditionally been pretty consistent...but...would love to have someone that could kick the ball into the endzone on kickoffs as well. Adi Kunalic anyone? Just sayin'.

realdeal
11-01-2010, 01:00 PM
All great points people!! But what about his KICKOFFS??Maybe Sepulveda can reach the endzone? He seems to have lost all confidence!! Horrible play calling once again before the half cost us points!!

Fire Arians
11-01-2010, 01:02 PM
I'm not a big Reed booster but I don't fault him for 51 yarder misses.

in an indoor stadium, most NFL kickers nail this

MagicMtnDan
11-01-2010, 02:11 PM
Jeff Reed must go. Numerous reasons - poor kicking this year (cost us at least one game), lousy kickoffs, and then there's the off the field issues including his bitching about not getting a contract.

Hey Skippy, you didn't get a contract to see what you'd do this year to earn it from the Steelers next year. So far you're failing and you'll be gone next year. :wave:

MillerMania83
11-01-2010, 07:30 PM
in an indoor stadium, most NFL kickers nail this

ABSOLUTELY, TOTALLY 100% AGREE, you are a professional kicker in the NFL, in a dome stadium, making millions of dollars (and wanting a new contract) you better be able to kick a 51 yrd field goal, it's not a gimmie, but should be made many more times than not....The deal is with Reed, the misses are beginning to be the norm, and honestly IMO it's just not acceptable if you want to be an elite team and beat the other elite teams with the game on the line and you needing your kicker to nail a 50 yarder....GREAT kickers are out there, many teams have them, you just have to do your homework and find/draft one....Or pay a ton of $$$$ to get one off one of the other teams....And lets face it with Reed, and it's been this way the past couple of years, his kickoffs are just HORRIBLE anymore, doesn't even come close for the opposition to have a touch back....Last night in the dome he booted one that barely got passed the 20 on a kickoff, once again, to be an elite team, NOT ACCEPTABLE.

MagicMtnDan
11-01-2010, 07:50 PM
Reed's kickoffs last night were short enough to allow the Saints return guy to get a running start on them. And they had a good return which is what short, lousy hang-time kicks like Reed's will get you.

lionslicer
11-01-2010, 07:52 PM
He wont be back unless he takes a huge pay cut...

If anyone ever noticed Adam Vinatieri is probably worse than Reed during the season, but in the playoffs he's perfect, and so is Reed. But kickers who seem to be perfect during the season are terrible in the playoffs and overtime/game winning field goal situations... so what do you want more? more points from the kicker or more game winning field goals..

Adam was also terrible on kickoffs.. Patriots brough in kick off specialists.. But only 5-8 kickers inthe league actually can kick the ball past the 5 yard line constantly and get touchbacks... People expect too much from kickers.

sharkweek
11-01-2010, 07:58 PM
This 51 yard miss alone is not why many of us want to see him gone, its his plethora of other misses, many of them far shorter than 51 yards, that were key misses in past losses. The Ravens loss comes to mind where he missed 2 FGs, either of which could have tied or both would have won the game.

Same goes for the Bears loss last season where he missed twice and cost us that game.

I seriously don't understand the love for this guy, he's an arrogant a-hole and now he's lost his clutch kicking that was the only redeeming factor to his zaniness, weak kickoffs, and even selfish attitude (failure to support on coverage on special teams). There's no way he's worth even half the money he wants or what the franchise tag will get him. I really hope that tag was really only to get us by this season and that we draft or sign a new kicker in the off-season (sooner if this crap gets any worse)

This isn't knee-jerk either, I wanted him gone before this season but w/e.

sharkweek
11-01-2010, 08:01 PM
People expect too much from kickers.

They do so little for the team in terms of time and effort put into the game that for the millions some of them make I don't think the expectations are unreasonable.

lionslicer
11-01-2010, 08:03 PM
They do so little for the team in terms of time and effort put into the game that for the millions some of them make I don't think the expectations are unreasonable.

They expect too much compared to what kickers can actually do. If you held every kicker in the league up to what people on this board expect, you'd have a lot of shitty overpaid kickers... Kickers don't play very long. There might be a few that make it to that 15-20 year mark, but many come in the league and gone in less than 3 years, maybe sign on a team a couple years later as a kickoff specialist, but thats it. Maybe the Steelers should sign a new kicker every year until one is perfect during the season, kicks touchbacks, and can win the game in must win situations.

sharkweek
11-01-2010, 08:08 PM
They expect too much compared to what kickers can actually do. If you held every kicker in the league up to what people on this board expect, you'd have a lot of shitty overpaid kickers... Kickers don't play very long. There might be a few that make it to that 15-20 year mark, but many come in the league and gone in less than 3 years, maybe sign on a team a couple years later as a kickoff specialist, but thats it. Maybe the Steelers should sign a new kicker every year until one is perfect during the season, kicks touchbacks, and can win the game in must win situations.

if that's the case then Reed is over due to be kicked off the team

I'm not sure what you're stance is, but even if expectations are too high, Reed currently isn't meeting any one of the expectations, so yeah...

lionslicer
11-01-2010, 08:11 PM
if that's the case then Reed is over due to be kicked off the team

I'm not sure what you're stance is, but even if expectations are too high, Reed currently isn't meeting any one of the expectations, so yeah...

Im not defending Reed I'm just pointing out how everyone jumps the gun for no reason...

fer522
11-01-2010, 08:21 PM
fire Arians and Reed:tt03:

Atlanta Dan
11-01-2010, 08:23 PM
IMO what has saved Reed as he has faded the last several years is that since the Steelers moved to Heinz in 2001 it has been a tough place for visiting kickers who do not have a clue as to how to deal with the wind patterns or spongy turf and that Reed's predecessors in 2001-02 were head case Kris Brown (who also could not kick on the road and whom Houston dumped) together with the ineffective Todd Peterson for part of the 2002 season until Cowher dumped Peterson and held a midseason try out that Skippy won.

So the Steelers understandably are spooked by a fear of the unknown that thw replacement could be worse - but after a run since 2002 (the immortal Roy Gerela lasted 7 seasons) Reed is another vet who is in decline for whom the end has arrived with no goodwill in the bank given allegations I regard as credible that the Steelers organization in particular wants no part of these days.

TRH
11-01-2010, 08:53 PM
Hope he is gone next year. Other kickers around the league are making 51 yarders. We need a kicker that does too. Plus...this was INDOORS.
His kickoffs are atrocious. When he nailed a couple in the first 2 games in the end zone, i was like "nice...maybe Reed is changed, has worked out or something and got some power in that leg..". Nope. Sure enough, by the 3rd game and beyond, he's booting most of them to the 10, 15 yard line. Then couple with runbacks, he sets our opponents up with great field position. And if our opponent ends up punting, they nail us back to the 5 or 10 yard line.
This guy sucks. There's certainly better for our team than Reed. Go.

MillerMania83
11-02-2010, 07:26 PM
Hope he is gone next year. Other kickers around the league are making 51 yarders. We need a kicker that does too. Plus...this was INDOORS.
His kickoffs are atrocious. When he nailed a couple in the first 2 games in the end zone, i was like "nice...maybe Reed is changed, has worked out or something and got some power in that leg..". Nope. Sure enough, by the 3rd game and beyond, he's booting most of them to the 10, 15 yard line. Then couple with runbacks, he sets our opponents up with great field position. And if our opponent ends up punting, they nail us back to the 5 or 10 yard line.
This guy sucks. There's certainly better for our team than Reed. Go.

LOVE that point made, with the runbacks and great field postiion the opponets start with, it DEFINITELY seems we have to go 90 yrds many drives cuz we are pinned back so far to start many drives....Goes right back to where the oppostition starts their drives, in good/to very good field position.

Reed has been rock solid for us in the past, and he's gets all the KUDOS in the world from me and many other Steelers fans for that....But if we are being truthful here, even in the world we live in, it's a "what have you done for me lately" world we live in, and go 'ole #3 just ain't getting it done the past couple of years...Too many kicks missed that WOULD HAVE changed outcomes of games....And the kickoffs, well, uuughhh.

zulater
11-02-2010, 07:39 PM
I guess no one besides me noticed the snap was high and ruined the timing of the kick? Not that it excuses Reed entirley, but with a longer kick that little hitch the high snap caused in Reed's approach was enough to hook the kick wide. It's not as if he has time to reset is it now folks?

DanRooney
11-02-2010, 07:44 PM
via Still Mill

"The Paper Towel Pugilist, Jeff Peed, duck-hooked the living shit out of a 51 yard FG late in the 1H. What a pile of shit. Itís in a DOME, with no wetness, no wind, and no mud, and he duck hooks the FG a good 12 feet to the left of the upright. Fuk Jeff Reed, who most assuredly will not be back next season. He also had a ball sucking KO in the 2H that went all the way to the 10. Fuking weak-kneed, weak-legged ******."

PhantomJB93
11-02-2010, 08:29 PM
Yes, he has been less reliable as of late, but literally we couldnt replace him with anyone better. Reliable kicking is extremely scarce in the NFL these days, this past season so many teams cut their kickers only to replace them with other FA kickers who were cut for the same reason. I suppose we could draft somebody but everybody would just get mad if we wasted a pre-5th round pick on a kicker (similar to when we drafted Sepulveda):noidea: