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SteelerzGirl
03-23-2006, 08:47 PM
NEW YORK (AP) - The NFL is satisfied with its officiating but concerned that high-profile errors in the playoffs and Super Bowl left a bad impression.

So beginning next week at league meetings in Orlando, Fla., it will tweak a few rules, dealing mostly with player safety, offensive holding and false starts.

"Because of the magnitude of the games, there's an indictment of the system," Atlanta general manager Rich McKay, co-chairman of the league's competition committee, said Wednesday during a conference call.

The main topic will be the first steps in choosing a successor to Paul Tagliabue. The commissioner will appoint a committee Monday to begin the process.

McKay, a leading candidate, dodged several questions on that subject. Instead, he spent most of his time discussing officiating, as did his committee during meetings the past month in Indianapolis and Naples, Fla.

In the 256 games during the past regular season, there were 850 false-start calls. To cut that number, the committee is ready to recommend that minor flinches by wide receivers be ignored if they have no effect on the play.

The committee also is considering recommending to officials that they make sure there was holding on a play before throwing a flag.

"We want to make sure they actually see the foul," McKay said.

One such play occurred in the Super Bowl. Seattle right tackle Sean Locklear was called for holding on a pass completion early in the fourth quarter that would have put the Seahawks at the Pittsburgh 1-yard line, poised to go in for the tying touchdown. After the penalty, Seattle quarterback Matt Hasselbeck threw an interception and the Steelers eventually scored to take a 14-point lead.

The committee also wants to change the rule on hits by defenders below the knee on quarterbacks. McKay said defensive players will be told they must make an effort to avoid hitting QBs in the legs to avoid serious injuries, like the hit on Cincinnati's Carson Palmer against the Steelers in the playoffs.

Another recommendation expands the rule put in place last year against "horse collar" tackles. That violation mandated flags only when a defensive player coming from behind got his hands inside the shoulder pads of a player with the ball. If it is expanded, it would extend that to tackles inside the shirt.

The committee also is considering an annual proposal from the Kansas City Chiefs to expand the playoffs from 12 to 14 teams. He said there was more interest in it this year, although he stopped short of saying the committee would recommend it.

In addition to McKay, the committee includes coach Jeff Fisher of Tennessee, the co-chairman; general managers Ozzie Newsome of Baltimore; Bill Polian of Indianapolis; and executives John Mara of the New York Giants and Mark Richardson of Carolina. Coach Marvin Lewis of Cincinnati is a nonvoting member.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5435916

Suitanim
03-23-2006, 08:54 PM
Wow. Where to begin?

"High profile errors in the Super Bowl"? The refs missed one call on that Haselback below the belt call, and I think it cost them 5 or 10 yards.

"We want to make sure they actually see the foul," McKay said.
Huh? Wasn't this already taken care of? If the officials would have called EVERY holding penalty that actually occured, wasn't it like 22 Seattle, 12 Steelers?

Kimo's "Hit" is called into question again? Jesus Christ! That's just retarded.

The Chefs (no typo there) want 14 playoff teams every year? I wonder why?

tony hipchest
03-23-2006, 08:57 PM
wow, the patriots only had one rule enforced in lieu of their sb win. looks like theyre really reaching there. false starts by a wr? how often do they actually get called for flinching? big words, small effect. i guess porter only had alexander by his shirt collar when he tackled him. no tackling by the jersey rule?????

the nfl is better served enforcing that players wear tighter jerseys.

DIESELMAN
03-23-2006, 11:16 PM
The Bucs submitted a proposal to the league that would expand the scope of instant replay to include all penalties, reports the Tampa Tribune. The proposal will be considered by league owners at a meeting in Orlando next week. "We're offering the suggestion that all penalties that are called should fall within the realm of instant replay," general manager Bruce Allen told the Tribune. "We suggest any penalties that are called be subject to review. After reviewing hundreds of plays, we feel it's time to expand on instant replay, since we have a system in place."
In other news, all NFL games will take a minimum of five hours to complete and robots may be brought in to completely eliminate all human thought within the officiating ranks.

MattsMe
03-23-2006, 11:22 PM
Wow. Where to begin?

"High profile errors in the Super Bowl"? The refs missed one call on that Haselback below the belt call, and I think it cost them 5 or 10 yards.

"We want to make sure they actually see the foul," McKay said.
Huh? Wasn't this already taken care of? If the officials would have called EVERY holding penalty that actually occured, wasn't it like 22 Seattle, 12 Steelers?

Kimo's "Hit" is called into question again? Jesus Christ! That's just retarded.

The Chefs (no typo there) want 14 playoff teams every year? I wonder why?


Yeah, what he said.

Livinginthe past
03-24-2006, 02:18 AM
I think if you took a poll of teams that are regarded to be neutral in terms of the SB's participants you would find that most of them think there as alot more than one bad call.

The most obviously negligent ruling was the 'TD' given to Ben - the perception of that award was that the official was going to rule him down at the 1 - then changed his mind when he seen Ben looking at him after he had clearly made a late move to put the ball over the line.

A common counter argument that 'The Steelers would have got in from the 1/2 yard line anyway' is both moot and irrelevant.

However, I think the insinuation that Kimo deliberately injured Palmer by going for the legs is hugely insulting and has no real basis in reality - the real cheap shot here is on Mr Von Oelhoffen.

NM

klick81
03-24-2006, 02:56 AM
LOL...the chiefs want more teams in the play offs. That's hilarious!

Ambridge
03-24-2006, 04:55 AM
The Chefs (no typo there) want 14 playoff teams every year? I wonder why?

Chiefs GM Carl Peterson started whineing and complaining practically the first day or two after KC was eliminated from the playoffs about how there should be more teams in the post season. :jerkit:

SteelerzGirl
03-24-2006, 07:28 PM
:rofl:

Nice ending to your post there, Ambridge...(lol).

What kinda upsets me about this is that nowhere in the article does it refer to the injuries that Steelers QBs have had to endure by other teams over the years, i.e., Maddox (which almost paralyzed him) and Roethlisberger, but they sure are quick to point the finger at the Steelers defense for injuries sustained by other teams' QBs at the hands of the Steelers. Can you imagine what it would be like if the Steelers took out Brady the way they took out Palmer even though it wasn't intentional? WW3 would probably break out! :rolleyes:

Livinginthe past
03-25-2006, 01:46 AM
:rofl:

Nice ending to your post there, Ambridge...(lol).

What kinda upsets me about this is that nowhere in the article does it refer to the injuries that Steelers QBs have had to endure by other teams over the years, i.e., Maddox (which almost paralyzed him) and Roethlisberger, but they sure are quick to point the finger at the Steelers defense for injuries sustained by other teams' QBs at the hands of the Steelers. Can you imagine what it would be like if the Steelers took out Brady the way they took out Palmer even though it wasn't intentional? WW3 would probably break out! :rolleyes:

Thats probably the only way you would stop the Patriots beating the Steelers these days - desperate situations call for desperate actions.

NM

DIESELMAN
03-25-2006, 02:12 AM
Thats probably the only way you would stop the Patriots beating the Steelers these days - desperate situations call for desperate actions.

NM

No......thats not way the Steelers will beat the Pats....it'll be a straight up victory with no excuses...We'll see come the playoffs if the Pats make it...lol.The Palmer thing was an accident no matter how you look at it, its a shame it happened in the playoffs but it happened....no matter how they change the rules injuries will still happen....:helmet:

Livinginthe past
03-25-2006, 02:21 AM
No......thats not way the Steelers will beat the Pats....it'll be a straight up victory with no excuses...We'll see come the playoffs if the Pats make it...lol.The Palmer thing was an accident no matter how you look at it, its a shame it happened in the playoffs but it happened....no matter how they change the rules injuries will still happen....:helmet:

Im with you 100% on the Palmer situation - I think its very backhanded the way official statements are being made about that play and need to alter the rules to stop D-Linemen targetting QB's knees.

I'll be happy man if the Patriots get to meet the Steelers in the playoffs next year - its a great rivalry.

NM

SteelerzGirl
03-25-2006, 03:01 PM
Thats probably the only way you would stop the Patriots beating the Steelers these days - desperate situations call for desperate actions.

NM


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LOL :wink:

schoondog
03-28-2006, 03:45 AM
from what i'm reading and understanding Kimos hit would still be legal

apparently even under the rule changes Kimos hit would still be legal.

Toughening enforcement on pass rushers who hit quarterbacks below the knees. However, it wouldn't involve hits that defensive players can't avoid, such as the one in last year's playoffs on Cincinnati's Carson Palmer by Kimo von Oelhoffen, then with Pittsburgh, that severely injured Palmer's knee.
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9341673/2

I guess all the whinning the bungles did was a waste of time. :sign09: :monkey: