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mesaSteeler
11-10-2010, 10:01 PM
NFL from the sidelines
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Wednesday, November 10, 2010

Tomlin talks about offensive line

Mike Tomlin said Wednesday that Jonathan Scott is the team's left tackle moving forward and that there are no plans to move right tackle Flozell Adams to replace injured Max Starks.

Tomlin said that he likes what he's seen of Adams at right tackle and doesn't want to change that. The team also has confidence in Scott.

It also appears that Ramon Foster will start next to Scott at guard instead of Doug Legursky.

Foster started four games in place of Chris Kemoeatu in 2009 and the Steelers like him on the left side.

OX1947
11-11-2010, 12:42 AM
Let me guess, he said something like this: "make no bones about it, we are here to win games, its not about style points, we intend to play steeler football regardless of who plays,"

ricardisimo
11-11-2010, 01:22 AM
"The standard remains the standard, if you will."

Kanata-Steeler
11-11-2010, 01:56 AM
This has been buggin me for a couple years now too.
LeBeau does to the Steelers defense like any one of us would love to do to Kate Beckinsale... err uhm u know what I mean.
HE MAKES happy STARS outta them -#1 NFL "D" team.
If there is a weird schism within the Steelers' Offense and Defense then Tomlin has to put that in check.
ok, Tomlin and/or BA are not a Dick LeBeau, but Tomlin is smart enough to know (as head-coach) that Offensively we are up and down, all over the map sometimes.

Is there a slight "horse-collar" on Tomlin where he is not given enough control over BA/Offense... ? does Tomlin react more "gently" to "Offense" criticism because Tomlin
professionally is a defense guy, and not an Offense guy ?
Well, Tomlin has to "mentally" fix some of his own "backyard" too !
In other words, is BA Rooney's golfing buddy !!!???, or wtf is goin' on !

Gawd, I know that sounds stoopid, but what else could it possibly be. ?
Our Offense should be atleast close to the calibre our Defense is. It has had 5 years to improve, with consistency, generally-speaking.
Dodging bullitt's, and trick-plays can only go so far. We need to Offesively score points, and manage it, when we critically need it, hence our redzone, 4th quarter MELTDOWN issues.
And yet, there are plenty of "bright-lights" within the Offense, such as Mendy, ......

They says "... Defense wins games...", ya... well NOT without an Offense, it just won't happen.
If that was Tomlin's freekin' "talk" on the Offense, then that is just smoke n' mirrors, behind a mystery, wrapped up in an enigma.
More of the same I guess ?

markymarc
11-11-2010, 08:30 PM
Jonathan Scott better be up for the challenge. I have plenty of faith in Ramon Foster to do well at left guard for us. As long as Matt Spaeth doesn't have to play tackle we should be alright.

lionslicer
11-11-2010, 08:42 PM
This has been buggin me for a couple years now too.
LeBeau does to the Steelers defense like any one of us would love to do to Kate Beckinsale... err uhm u know what I mean.
HE MAKES happy STARS outta them -#1 NFL "D" team.
If there is a weird schism within the Steelers' Offense and Defense then Tomlin has to put that in check.
ok, Tomlin and/or BA are not a Dick LeBeau, but Tomlin is smart enough to know (as head-coach) that Offensively we are up and down, all over the map sometimes.

Is there a slight "horse-collar" on Tomlin where he is not given enough control over BA/Offense... ? does Tomlin react more "gently" to "Offense" criticism because Tomlin
professionally is a defense guy, and not an Offense guy ?
Well, Tomlin has to "mentally" fix some of his own "backyard" too !
In other words, is BA Rooney's golfing buddy !!!???, or wtf is goin' on !

Gawd, I know that sounds stoopid, but what else could it possibly be. ?
Our Offense should be atleast close to the calibre our Defense is. It has had 5 years to improve, with consistency, generally-speaking.
Dodging bullitt's, and trick-plays can only go so far. We need to Offesively score points, and manage it, when we critically need it, hence our redzone, 4th quarter MELTDOWN issues.
And yet, there are plenty of "bright-lights" within the Offense, such as Mendy, ......

They says "... Defense wins games...", ya... well NOT without an Offense, it just won't happen.
If that was Tomlin's freekin' "talk" on the Offense, then that is just smoke n' mirrors, behind a mystery, wrapped up in an enigma.
More of the same I guess ?

Tomlin played more offense in his college days than defense, but he started coaching defensive backs in 1998 with Arkansas and was never asked to do offense again.
He should know offense, but we don't know what control BA has or who's listening to the offensive line coach and such. When a coach is hired or promoted, sometimes to sweeten the deal the GM or Owner gives them control over certain aspects. As in BA might have total control over who starts on offense no matter what, we don't know what his contract is so we can't judge at the moment.
The way the NFL is set up now of days is totally different than what people are used to and it's stupid and doesn't make sense sometimes. Its reallly to put less stress on a head coach and GM but it tends to not work well.

Also I blame 4th quarter meltdowns on the defense, no offense to LeBeau, but his calls totally change in the 4th quarter. And when a team is playing from behind to win, typically their defense is going to play a lot better, and when you try to run the clock with terrible designed Arians plays, the defense will stop the run forcing you to pass at some point.
The bengals game should have been run out, but Mendy was exhausted due to both of his backups getting concussions.. no way is that a coaches fault.

There has to be a point where you have to give some blame to the players. They are the ones out there, they could be more relaxed with a lead and let up leads too, or not play as well on offense, there is so much that has to go right, its impossible to know who to blame unless you were on the sidelines.

El-Gonzo Jackson
11-12-2010, 01:54 PM
So Legursky and Hills get to dress as the reserves probably. Still reasonable depth, but hopefully we dont need it.

Jon Scott was the LT at Texas before Tony Hills. I have confidence that he can get the job done, but still wish we invested in some decent OT's the past few years instead of 5th round picks always.

Atlanta Dan
11-12-2010, 03:57 PM
"The standard remains the standard, if you will."

If we address our ills and really don’t blink in the face of adversity and really let that guide our energy and decision making and continue to do the things well that we’re doing well, we should be fine and should be able to correct these issues. In the short term? Uncomfortable? Absolutely, because this is a competitors’ business and we’re competitors, but Redemption Sunday, if you will, is coming for us in the form of the [New England Patriots] on Sunday Night Football, so we’re excited about that. That medicine is just what the doctor ordered when you look at where we are, having the opportunity to play our rivals on prime-time television.

http://www.postgameheroes.com/?p=8343

You really can just plug this **** in from a previous week (or year) :chuckle:

BKAnthem
11-12-2010, 04:09 PM
So Legursky and Hills get to dress as the reserves probably. Still reasonable depth, but hopefully we dont need it.

Jon Scott was the LT at Texas before Tony Hills. I have confidence that he can get the job done, but still wish we invested in some decent OT's the past few years instead of 5th round picks always.

:applaudit::tt04::tt02::tt03::tt::thumbsup:

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU !!!!

I've been saying and writing this for the entire time i've been on this board (the last 2 drafts) and everyone was saying they were fine with the draft Picks...they have no problem with the picks, some cat on here even gave me some semantic bullshit about the draft round of a certain scrub with the last name of Urbick...see a problem now?

Steelerfreak58
11-12-2010, 05:28 PM
"IF YOU WILL!"

Fire Arians
11-12-2010, 05:32 PM
:applaudit::tt04::tt02::tt03::tt::thumbsup:

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU !!!!

I've been saying and writing this for the entire time i've been on this board (the last 2 drafts) and everyone was saying they were fine with the draft Picks...they have no problem with the picks, some cat on here even gave me some semantic bullshit about the draft round of a certain scrub with the last name of Urbick...see a problem now?

we have to take what's available in the draft. the last time we reached in rd 1 for a lineman this is what we got.

http://www.steelertribute.com/jamain.jpg

Fire Arians
11-12-2010, 05:40 PM
http://www.steelerslounge.com/2010/09/time-machines-steelers-oline/

here's a nice writeup about the draft since 2004 and what linemen were available when we made our picks. would you have changed anything? in hindsight it actually looks like the drafting actually was good.

fer522
11-12-2010, 09:43 PM
fire Arians

markymarc
11-13-2010, 05:35 PM
Hopefully Chris Scott can continue to progress and turn into a good backup just like Ramon Foster. Hey Mike...please keep it in the back of your mind about going after Mike Pouncey in the first round of the 2011 draft. I would be very happy with him as our starting right guard. Keep the twins together Mike!

BKAnthem
11-16-2010, 12:13 PM
http://www.steelerslounge.com/2010/09/time-machines-steelers-oline/

here's a nice writeup about the draft since 2004 and what linemen were available when we made our picks. would you have changed anything? in hindsight it actually looks like the drafting actually was good.

2009, I WOULD NOT have traded my second round pick with Antoine Caldwell and Louis Vazquez still on the board...

and I would have Taken Jared Veldheer over Jason Worilds in a heartbeat....