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zulater
11-14-2010, 11:18 AM
http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?offensiveStatisticCategory=TEAM_PASS ING&season=2010&seasonType=REG&d-447263-o=2&conference=ALL&tabSeq=2&role=TM&d-447263-p=1&d-447263-s=PASSING_ATTEMPTS&d-447263-n=1

With our offensive line I'm not sure that's going to change anytime soon. :noidea:

Stlrs4Life
11-14-2010, 11:22 AM
Good, I hope it stays that way. I love it when we can run the ball.

theplatypus
11-14-2010, 11:27 AM
Dead last in pass attempts and middle of the pack in points per game.

SamUK
11-14-2010, 11:32 AM
Would only be a real issue if we were say doing a 1-7 like the cryboys!

Aslong as we keep winning, it can come through the air, on the ground, ST or from the D!!

We still not quite in the top 10 for rushing yards this season, but its promising!

zulater
11-14-2010, 11:42 AM
Would only be a real issue if we were say doing a 1-7 like the cryboys!

Aslong as we keep winning, it can come through the air, on the ground, ST or from the D!!

We still not quite in the top 10 for rushing yards this season, but its promising!

You'd think being dead last in pass attempts that it would be a given that we were top 10 in running the ball.



Sorry, but I have to go against the early consensus, you have an elite quarterback, use him.

lionslicer
11-14-2010, 11:46 AM
It's only dead last because of the first 4 games of the season. Ben has actually had above the average amount of pass atempts a game since he got back.

You might say we shouldn't throw more because the offensive line is banged up, but they also can't run block. Miller and Spaeth have been pass blocking a lot so I assume Ben will still throw the ball 25-30 times a game.

SamUK
11-14-2010, 11:52 AM
It's only dead last because of the first 4 games of the season. Ben has actually had above the average amount of pass atempts a game since he got back.
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He has had 109 attempts in 4 games.... so double that for 8 and we would still only be ranked 28 in pass attempts!

When we do throw.... top 10 for % completion and the best stat at all to back zulater up on why we should throw more...

Yards per Completion average = 8.2
2nd in the league only behind the Chargers!

lionslicer
11-14-2010, 11:56 AM
He has had 109 attempts in 4 games.... so double that for 8 and we would still only be ranked 28 in pass attempts!

When we do throw.... top 10 for % completion and the best stat at all to back zulater up on why we should throw more...

Yards per Completion average = 8.2
2nd in the league only behind the Chargers!

If you were to look at the league average of atempts over the past couple years, its 25... Ben averages like 27 a game, thats above average, I don't know why this year seems to be the year of 35 pass atempts per team. I remember when Ben only passed the ball liek 15 times a game and Steelers were still in the 20's of pass atempts.

El-Gonzo Jackson
11-14-2010, 01:15 PM
Yeah, Ben hasnt been sacked as much after 8 games when compared to last year either.

Oops, I guess him sitting out 4 games had something to do with that. The only real important stat so far is 6-2.

Fire Arians
11-14-2010, 02:07 PM
we're probably last in total offensive plays. it's what you get when you go 3 and out half the time

zulater
11-14-2010, 02:19 PM
Yeah, Ben hasnt been sacked as much after 8 games when compared to last year either.

Oops, I guess him sitting out 4 games had something to do with that. The only real important stat so far is 6-2.

We were 6-2 at the mid point last year too.Where did that get us?

zulater
11-14-2010, 02:21 PM
He has had 109 attempts in 4 games.... so double that for 8 and we would still only be ranked 28 in pass attempts!

When we do throw.... top 10 for % completion and the best stat at all to back zulater up on why we should throw more...

Yards per Completion average = 8.2
2nd in the league only behind the Chargers!



I suppose this wouldn't bother me if we were at least in the top ten in rushing. We're not though, seems as if we're not doing anything particuarly good on offense at the moment. The offensive line up until this recent spate of injuries was supposedly improved. Not showing it much in the way lof results though.

Also you'd think with the amount of times we've run the ball we'd be eating up clock. Wrong, we're 16th in the league for TOP.

You want to know the difference between this year and last year? Well actually there might not be one, we were 6-2 at the midpoint last year. But honestly I do think we're improved, but only because of turnover differential and special teams. Special teams should stay a plus, turnover differential? You just never know, it's not something i want to be dependent on.

Bottom line is if this team truly has Super Bowl asperations the offense needs to start carrying a bigger share of the load. The best way to bring that about in my opinion is to unleash your best player( Ben). And while you're at it you might try to figure out a way to get your receiver with the best set of hands into a few pass patterns ( Heath) instead of using him as a 3rd tackle on nearly every passing play.

ricardisimo
11-14-2010, 03:58 PM
He has had 109 attempts in 4 games.... so double that for 8 and we would still only be ranked 28 in pass attempts!

When we do throw.... top 10 for % completion and the best stat at all to back zulater up on why we should throw more...

Yards per Completion average = 8.2
2nd in the league only behind the Chargers!
Here's a piece in part on Ben regarding the importance of that stat:
3. Ben Roethlisberger deserves more credit for his incredible productivity. Most football fans and so-called experts obsess over those big gaudy numbers and 400-yard passing days that grab headlines. The fantasy football phenomenon fuels this obsession. But the truth is that passing effectiveness, not volume, is the singular secret to success in the NFL and always has been -- at least if you care about wins and losses on the field and not in your fantasy league.
Quarterbacks with a high average per pass attempt almost always win, regardless of how often they pass. And Roethlisberger is a perfect example of the importance of effectiveness over volume. He's actually one of the most prolific passers in NFL history if you look at the right numbers.
Big Ben averages an incredible 8.02 yards per pass attempt, the fifth highest mark in the history of football. If you want to know why the Steelers instantly became title contenders the day Roethlisberger became the starter, if you want to know why he's already won two Super Bowls, look at that number.
Sure, he's been blessed with a consistently strong defense and a team committed to the run. But those two factors don't win consistently if you can't exploit the opposition with a highly effective passing game. Just ask Green Bay Hall of Famer Bart Starr, the only quarterback with five championship rings. His career average of 7.85 YPA was the best of any quarterback in the 1960s. Or ask Cleveland Hall of Famer Otto Graham. He led the Browns to six straight championship games in each of his six NFL seasons, an unprecedented streak of success. His average of 8.62 YPA as an NFL passer is also unprecedented, the highest, the most effective mark of all time.
Roethlisberger went 26-4 in his first 30 games as a starter, a period during which he averaged an amazing 8.89 yards per pass attempt -- an incredible number. The wins were a direct result of his historic but misunderstood productivity.
He's in true Big Ben form here 2010, too, even after his four-game suspension early in the year. Roethlisberger has averaged an impressive 8.41 YPA and he's won three of his four starts.
Bottom line: passing effectiveness, not passing volume, is what wins games in the NFL. Big Ben is the best contemporary example of this law of football success.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/kerry_byrne/11/12/patriots-steelers/index.html#ixzz15ICNsLGX

TRH
11-14-2010, 07:39 PM
as much as i like when we're running good, teams are starting to pick up on Mendenhall. Our play calling is getting very predictable.
If Ben can get a little time back there, i'd like to see us throw it a tad more.